Wii reminds me of the crash of '83

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#51 ChrisSpartan117
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I made a topic like this, and after thinking about it, TC, don't make topics like this until you see the next generation ofconsoles, and what direction they take.

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#52 jg4xchamp
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the gaming market in 2009 is dramatically different from what the gaming market was in 1983. So no...the Wii is nothing like the "crash of 83" :|

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#53 Steppy_76
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[QUOTE="Steppy_76"]

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]I'm pretty sure that in the crash of '83 there weren't a strong pulse of quality games to blot out the shovelware. IronBass

Actually there was.

It was nothing in comparisson with today.

For what the market was back in the day it was comparable. Activision titles were rock solid while titles from "quaker oats" and "Kool-aid" were FAR worse than much of the shovelware of today. Either way, there is a solid established backbone of a games market today that didn't exist back then in the infancy of the industry. MS and Sony have almost their entire userbase drawn from that, while Nintendo has a large portion of its userbase built from users who are just as likely to walk away from the industry and those who are now in for the long haul. How those people go "long term" will determine what happens with Nintendo.

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#54 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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For what the market was back in the day it was comparable. Steppy_76

Relative comparissons are irrelevant when the actual situation is that much different.

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#55 Great_Ragnarok
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certainly possible. I'll give you that. but let's hope it doesn't happen. partially because I hope to develope games for a living XD would be bad to complete a degree then comeout when the video game industry is broken XD
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#56 jjenkins78x
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[QUOTE="Nedemis"][QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"][QUOTE="ComboTroop"] Its not just Happening to the Wii, it Happens to every Console! and Machine! PS3 might fail, Xbox 360 might fail! iTouch or whatever is failing! DS is rising thanks to its new release of GTA: Chinatown wars, And Wii is getting some good games in 2009, so wait, and lets see! And if people use their brains and they own opinions then this shouldn't happen!

um RE5 just moved past 4 million copies , high Quality game with amazing sales

Wrong....Capcom has shipped 4 million units.....sales probably won't be even half of that. Still impressive, but items shipped and sold are two completely different beasts.

I think you underestimate the RE name. I bet it sells well over 4 million copies, especially if you mean across all platforms and territories. RE is huge. The movies and animated films have only made the franchise bigger. I think it will sell a ton of copies.
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#57 Zaistev_basic
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I think the TC is not thinking straight and has refused to see why the video game industry are having losses despite success in some area. As mentioned before, at slate.com, that the reason for the huge losses and bankruptcy of some of the video game developers, is the high development costs. That's what killing video games, the expensive development costs, which is strongly related to games in HD. Its ironic that harcore gamers keeps blaming Wii for the fall of industry, when is clear that the HD games are putting developers into financial trouble. There Halo, GTA 4, etc games which turns into profit, but few games cannot save other HD games, which could be AAA+ rated, but poor in sales. Funny thing is those crappy games you baching about the Wii is turning video games into profit. I guess we can say that we're a little bit early on adapting HD games even though the cost of making one did not go down, but rather increased. I just want hardcore to admit that, no matter how fanatic you are about your console or games, you can never be more important to the casual market. We hardcore gamers are just the minority. We shouldn't demand to much to the point that our demand can bankrupt our video game industry.
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#58 Zaistev_basic
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Here is the link of the slate.com which says that what's killing video games is the development cost, not the economy. http://tbm.thebigmoney.com/articles/0s-1s-and-s/2009/02/17/whats-killing-video-game-business
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#59 svetzenlether
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The only major difference now is that there is still a healthy indie and core market throughout the entire industry.

foxhound_fox

This, and the fact that the Wii "shovelware" titles aren't the big sellers.

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#60 nhh18
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The Wii's shovelware rarely sells well unless it has advertising, hype, or had a similar name/boxart to a successful game. Most of the Wii's million sellers are quality titles, and most shovelware does not sell well. The issue with the crash was that there was less competition around, and video games had not yet really kicked off that well. Today the gaming business, like most entertainment, is more or less fail proof even in tough times because people want to escape.

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Wii play, and wii sports are the highest selling games and they are bad games...

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[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

The Wii's shovelware rarely sells well unless it has advertising, hype, or had a similar name/boxart to a successful game. Most of the Wii's million sellers are quality titles, and most shovelware does not sell well. The issue with the crash was that there was less competition around, and video games had not yet really kicked off that well. Today the gaming business, like most entertainment, is more or less fail proof even in tough times because people want to escape.

nhh18

Wii play, and wii sports are the highest selling games and they are bad games...

wii sports - 7.8 (GOOD)> haze-6.0 (fair)Lair - 4.5 (poor)Too Human 5.5 (Mediocore)

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#62 nhh18
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="nintendofreak_2"]

The Wii's shovelware rarely sells well unless it has advertising, hype, or had a similar name/boxart to a successful game. Most of the Wii's million sellers are quality titles, and most shovelware does not sell well. The issue with the crash was that there was less competition around, and video games had not yet really kicked off that well. Today the gaming business, like most entertainment, is more or less fail proof even in tough times because people want to escape.

shutdown_202

Wii play, and wii sports are the highest selling games and they are bad games...

wii sports - 7.8 (GOOD)> haze-6.0 (fair)Lair - 4.5 (poor)Too Human 5.5 (Mediocore)

wii sports got a 7.8 only because it was super hyped casual sensation. THe golf game is broken. The tennis game is broken, and the bowling mode is broken. The only mode that actually works is the boxing... I mean the game is seriously broken. If they add a wii plus wii sports (not sports resort) the game could actually get a score in the 7.0 range and deserve it.

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#63 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

[QUOTE="nhh18"]Wii play, and wii sports are the highest selling games and they are bad games...

wii sports - 7.8 (GOOD)> haze-6.0 (fair)Lair - 4.5 (poor)Too Human 5.5 (Mediocore)

wii sports got a 7.8 only because it was super hyped casual sensation. THe golf game is broken. The tennis game is broken, and the bowling mode is broken. The only mode that actually works is the boxing... I mean the game is seriously broken. If they add a wii plus wii sports (not sports resort) the game could actually get a score in the 7.0 range and deserve it.

And what makes you think that your opinion is shared by everyone else?
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#64 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="nhh18"]

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

wii sports - 7.8 (GOOD)> haze-6.0 (fair)Lair - 4.5 (poor)Too Human 5.5 (Mediocore)

IronBass

wii sports got a 7.8 only because it was super hyped casual sensation. THe golf game is broken. The tennis game is broken, and the bowling mode is broken. The only mode that actually works is the boxing... I mean the game is seriously broken. If they add a wii plus wii sports (not sports resort) the game could actually get a score in the 7.0 range and deserve it.

And what makes you think that your opinion is shared by everyone else?

I'm more curious how out of all the sports, he thought boxing was the one not broken.

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I'm more curious how out of all the sports, he thought boxing was the one not broken.ActicEdge
Fair question. Personally, I enjoy the ocassioal Golf and Tennis round. Actually, it can be very fun sometimes.
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#66 ActicEdge
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[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]I'm more curious how out of all the sports, he thought boxing was the one not broken.IronBass
Fair question. Personally, I enjoy the ocassioal Golf and Tennis round. Actually, it can be very fun sometimes.

I basically felt the same. Tennis and Golf were fun. Boxing was basically arm flailing which I really wasn't a fan of. Granted, I grew tired of wii sports quickly after playing it but it was fun well it lasted.

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#67 goblaa
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Almost no crap games on the wii sell. There are only a couple of exceptions.

/thread.

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#68 WilliamRLBaker
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Agreed the Wii is killing video games.

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#69 dr-venkman
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Only thing killing gaming is the ignorance of the wannabe "hardcore" gamer and their online based FPS'ers.
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#70 chadwardennn
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i hope so. Nintendo doesnt deserve all the money they are getting until they make more and better games. The Wii is a disgrace to me as a gamer.
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#71 taker42
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360 and PS3 have shown that there are enough hardcore gamers to sustain the industry.

jjenkins78x

I always laugh IRL when I see someone type that.

That said, I agree with the rest of his post.

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#72 -Reggaeton-
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[QUOTE="King_Dodongo"][QUOTE="Sonic_on_crack"] um RE5 just moved past 4 million copies , high Quality game with amazing salesSonic_on_crack
on two consoles combined, dude

2 million is still really impressive and especially considering it launched only like 10 days ago

You got it all wrong. We dont know the numbers yet. Capcom said that theyve SHIPPED 4mil because the demo was so popular.
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#73 Wolblade
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The wii is too expensive to develop for for something like that to happen.

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]PS2 was the king of shovelware, so your comparison fails.hakanakumono

PS2 had a much more healthy ratio of high quality games to low quality games. It didn't really have that much shovelware. For shovelware see the PS1.

While this is true, again, I bring up the fact that the PS2 has been around much longer than the Wii. So of course, it will have a higher ratio of quality games to bad.

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#74 Nintendo_Man
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Without the Wii, NPD will show HW sales plunge overall instead of being up 7%.