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#1 EpiphoneMan2008
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Well since the Wii Storage problem has been fixed there has been tons of great downloadable games to get like Ocarina Of Time and Super Mario 64 what do you think about the wii now?

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#2 EpiphoneMan2008
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there is also NES games and all kinds of great original games on there
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#3 millwrought
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I think that if people think that the Wii is awesome now only because it's pulling a SE and porting a bunch of good old games to it, I will call those people c-c-c-crazy!

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I think that if people think that the Wii is awesome now only because it's pulling a SE and porting a bunch of good old games to it, I will call those people c-c-c-crazy!

millwrought
You act like it's a bad thing. It's really awesome that I can play some of the old games that I missed from a ton of consoles on one machine... legally.
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#5 SpinoRaptor24
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I already have all those games, So I couldn't care less.

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#7 millwrought
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[QUOTE="millwrought"]

I think that if people think that the Wii is awesome now only because it's pulling a SE and porting a bunch of good old games to it, I will call those people c-c-c-crazy!

GundamGuy0

You act like it's a bad thing. It's really awesome that I can play some of the old games that I missed from a ton of consoles on one machine... legally.

Oh it is great, but I wouldn't claim that the Wii is awesome again just because of that.

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#8 svetzenlether
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Why would I want to pay for something I can get for free?crazy-player

Because maybe you'd rather not steal something and instead pay the 5-10 bucks?

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[QUOTE="crazy-player"]Why would I want to pay for something I can get for free?svetzenlether

Because maybe you'd rather not steal something and instead pay the 5-10 bucks?

It's not stealing, and I don't really care if you think it is.
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#10 EpiphoneMan2008
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but you have to admit it enhances the image you used to have of the wii
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#11 crazy-player
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but you have to admit it enhances the image you used to have of the wiiEpiphoneMan2008
Not really.
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#12 EpiphoneMan2008
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why do you think so?
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#13 Sonic_on_crack
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hasnt changed my mind, seriously I'd rather have no games like Braid and Flower . also the system should've came with a harddrive to begin with . Do any Nintendo games even have DLC ?
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#14 Svarthek
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[QUOTE="svetzenlether"]

[QUOTE="crazy-player"]Why would I want to pay for something I can get for free?crazy-player

Because maybe you'd rather not steal something and instead pay the 5-10 bucks?

It's not stealing, and I don't really care if you think it is.

Unless you own the games downloading ROM's is considered illegal because it is stealing (making the ROM ultimately unfree). And your "I don't care" quip sounds like you know that.

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#15 RawDeal_basic
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Nintendo charges way too much for VC games, especially the NES ones.

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#16 EpiphoneMan2008
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i dont think so but the Conduit might i know it is revolutionary
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#17 jonnyt61
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Nintendo charges way too much for VC games, especially the NES ones.

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Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced.
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#18 BuryMe
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Well, I'm glad they fixed the storage problem, but it hasn't changed my overall oppinion that much...

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[QUOTE="millwrought"]

I think that if people think that the Wii is awesome now only because it's pulling a SE and porting a bunch of good old games to it, I will call those people c-c-c-crazy!

GundamGuy0

You act like it's a bad thing. It's really awesome that I can play some of the old games that I missed from a ton of consoles on one machine... legally.

i'm glad you put that because i was gonna say...

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#20 AlexSays
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced.

Not really. Most of those games are either the same price, or much more expensive in their original form.
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced. AlexSays
Not really. Most of those games are either the same price, or much more expensive in their original form.

Very true.
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#22 Ibacai
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It's a great addition to the Wii and I hope that both Sony and MS step up and follow suit here. Definitely something every system should do for those just getting into gaming to let them check out what they missed.
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#23 EpiphoneMan2008
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its not TOO badly over priced
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#24 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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It's awesome. Reason enough to get a Wii, imo.
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#25 EpiphoneMan2008
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then you should vote on the best virtual console in the poll thread
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#26 webhead921
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I love virtual console.

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[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced. nintendoboy16
Not really. Most of those games are either the same price, or much more expensive in their original form.

Very true.

Not really. If you're looking for original carts, probably.

The fact that -most- of the games worth buying can be picked up in collections, compilations and the like, for far cheaper than what you pay on VC is proof enough to me it's over-priced.

The fact that they're all old gen, and practically -free- to reproduce makes it a little annoying to me, to have to pay the equivalent of £15 for one N64 game. I mean, PS1 games which are the same gen as N64 games, go for a maximum of £3.50 on PSN.

Also, point systems suck.

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The fact that -most- of the games worth buying can be picked up in collections, compilations and the like, for far cheaper than what you pay on VC is proof enough to me it's over-priced.jonnyt61
The other way around. Most of those games are impossible to get if not in their original carts form.
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]The fact that -most- of the games worth buying can be picked up in collections, compilations and the like, for far cheaper than what you pay on VC is proof enough to me it's over-priced.IronBass
The other way around. Most of those games are impossible to get if not in their original carts form.

Really? Maybe I haven't looked quite so well, but as far as the EU VC goes, it's not the case. There's a lot of games on there you can't get, probably, but these are also the same games that weren't worth buying then, let alone now.

But most of the good ones? They' seem to have been re-released in some form or another, and, usually, are relatively easy to get a hold of.

Oh, and this isn't a Wii bash. I own one, even if I am disappointed with it.

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#30 Flam3Thr0w3r
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i dont think so but the Conduit might i know it is revolutionaryEpiphoneMan2008
Revolutionary? How can you say that when you haven't even played the game? It looks like a boring, generic first person shooter if you ask me.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"]The fact that -most- of the games worth buying can be picked up in collections, compilations and the like, for far cheaper than what you pay on VC is proof enough to me it's over-priced.jonnyt61

The other way around. Most of those games are impossible to get if not in their original carts form.

Really? Maybe I haven't looked quite so well, but as far as the EU VC goes, it's not the case. There's a lot of games on there you can't get, probably, but these are also the same games that weren't worth buying then, let alone now.

But most of the good ones? They' seem to have been re-released in some form or another, and, usually, are relatively easy to get a hold of.

Oh, and this isn't a Wii bash. I own one, even if I am disappointed with it.

I don't said you're bashing it, no worries :P But let's take a look at the important ones: Mario 1, 2, 3, World, Zelda ALttP, Yoshi's Island. Those, indeed, have GBA remakes. But it is pretty difficult to get one of those for less $10. Now come N64 games. That's more difficult because they are rare. For example Paper Mario, Zelda OoT or MM. I don't think you'll get them for such a low price. Next come the impossible ones: Super Metroid or Mario RPG, for example. Never remade, never re-released. And getting an original cartridge can cost up $400.
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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] The other way around. Most of those games are impossible to get if not in their original carts form.IronBass

Really? Maybe I haven't looked quite so well, but as far as the EU VC goes, it's not the case. There's a lot of games on there you can't get, probably, but these are also the same games that weren't worth buying then, let alone now.

But most of the good ones? They' seem to have been re-released in some form or another, and, usually, are relatively easy to get a hold of.

Oh, and this isn't a Wii bash. I own one, even if I am disappointed with it.

I don't said you're bashing it, no worries :P But let's take a look at the important ones: Mario 1, 2, 3, World, Zelda ALttP, Yoshi's Island. Those, indeed, have GBA remakes. But it is pretty difficult to get one of those for less $10. Now come N64 games. That's more difficult because they are rare. For example Paper Mario, Zelda OoT or MM. I don't think you'll get them for such a low price. Next come the impossible ones: Super Metroid or Mario RPG, for example. Never remade, never re-released. And getting an original cartridge can cost up $400.

Yay :) Someone who doesn't just assume the worst!

I think this is unfair though, as since I'm in the UK, we've always been lynched on the VC prices.

Well, as it stands, it's roughly £12 for a N64 title, which is about $18, I think. For the GBA games, I can generally pick the original carts Used for around £2~5 depending on the game.

But the worst part, is the Zelda games. They're quite expensive to buy separately on the VC, whereas for roughly £15~20 I can buy a brand new "Zelda Collection" for the GC which has...

Legend of Zelda
Zelda - The Adventure of Link
Ocarina of Time
Majoras Mask

I already own that, but I actually wanted to buy the games on VC, so I could avoid using the disc again. Sadly, then ended up being way too costly for me.

I did get Link to the Past, but I did that with "Star Points" so it was "free" even it did use pretty much 4 years worth of star points to afford [Damn you, crappy point exchange rate] I even own the original cart to that too though, so it was more of a convenience buy.

It's mostly down to the point system anyway. If they instead used a Wallet system, it'd probably end up being cheaper overall. I do like the VC's catalogue, I just see it as -quite- overpriced, not vastly, as I first put it hehe :P

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I grew up owning most of those consoles. Already played MOST of those games. Don't need to play them again. But if you didn't play some of them by all means go right ahead and enjoy.
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#34 EpiphoneMan2008
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well.................Thats still nintendo support
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#35 loco145
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I have been buying alot of Wiiware lately and almost no VC :(
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#36 loco145
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hasnt changed my mind, seriously I'd rather have no games like Braid and Flower .Sonic_on_crack

Because Wiiware games doens't exist, Right? :roll:

Do any Nintendo games even have DLC ?Sonic_on_crack
Yes.

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#37 DaBrainz
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VC is the best feature introduced this gen. There are still a few games that I really want that arent on there yet.

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The Wii is the best console ever because on it you get to play a lot of non Wii games.

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[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced. nintendoboy16
Not really. Most of those games are either the same price, or much more expensive in their original form.

Very true.


Some are much cheaper on VC some are much more expensive on VC. It evens out IMO.

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I don't said you're bashing it, no worries :P But let's take a look at the important ones: Mario 1, 2, 3, World, Zelda ALttP, Yoshi's Island. Those, indeed, have GBA remakes. But it is pretty difficult to get one of those for less $10. Now come N64 games. That's more difficult because they are rare. For example Paper Mario, Zelda OoT or MM. I don't think you'll get them for such a low price. Next come the impossible ones: Super Metroid or Mario RPG, for example. Never remade, never re-released. And getting an original cartridge can cost up $400. IronBass


You can easily find SMRPG for less than $100 and Metriod for less than $50 but this makes the VC still much cheaper.

VC is great if you know what your getting from the start. It's when you talk about all the crap games on it that the value is questioned. Paying $12 for SMRPG is extremely cheap (especially since the games was never released in EU before) but games like Altered Beasts or dare I say Mario Bros is not worth the money they want you to pay up.

I do however think N64 games are a little overprised, You can't only look at the hardcopy used market you also have to look at the competition and what they are offering. I have it easier to buy PS1 games on PSN then N64 games on VC and price is the main reason. Mario 64 and OoT is easily worth it but not much more. I think Nintendo might actually loose a little in this. It's easier to impulse buy a game for $5 than $10.

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[QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced. AlexSays
Not really. Most of those games are either the same price, or much more expensive in their original form.

That's because they don't manufacture the games in their original format anymore and they are rare :|

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[QUOTE="AlexSays"][QUOTE="jonnyt61"]Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced. RawDeal_basic

Not really. Most of those games are either the same price, or much more expensive in their original form.

That's because they don't manufacture the games in their original format anymore and they are rare :|

Very good.

You helped my point - though with fairly obvious facts - but thanks.

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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

Nintendo charges way too much for VC games, especially the NES ones.

jonnyt61

Simple reason why the VC isn't as great as it could be. It's very over-priced.

Yeah especially when you realize that these some of these games are over 20 years old. If the pricing system went from NES games at 1 dollar to N64 being the most expensive at 5 dollars I would definitely purchase more games. But paying 5 bucks for Donkey Kong or Mario Brothers, seriously? It's a total rip off.

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#44 RawDeal_basic
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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

[QUOTE="AlexSays"] Not really. Most of those games are either the same price, or much more expensive in their original form.AlexSays

That's because they don't manufacture the games in their original format anymore and they are rare :|

Very good.

You helped my point - though with fairly obvious facts - but thanks.

So if we are basically playing "roms" why are they the same price as the rare carts? Fail more please.

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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

That's because they don't manufacture the games in their original format anymore and they are rare :|

Very good.

You helped my point - though with fairly obvious facts - but thanks.

So if we are basically playing "roms" why are they the same price as the rare carts? Fail more please.

Eh... some of the carts can cost up $400 nowdays.
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#46 RawDeal_basic
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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

Very good.

You helped my point - though with fairly obvious facts - but thanks.

IronBass

So if we are basically playing "roms" why are they the same price as the rare carts? Fail more please.

Eh... some of the carts can cost up $400 nowdays.

True, but it probably costs next to nothing to port those games to the VC. But hey, Nintendo is doing the smart thing anyway since people are buying the games. If their prices were a bit lower it could stop some people from downloading illegally though.

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True, but it probably costs next to nothing to port those games to the VC. But hey, Nintendo is doing the smart thing anyway since people are buying the games. If their prices were a bit lower it could stop some people from downloading illegally though.RawDeal_basic
I bet that the big vast majority of people that download them illegally don't even own a Wii in the first place >_>. Considering that some of those games are arguable some of the best games ever created, the price is simply excellent, imho.
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#48 Svarthek
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[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

That's because they don't manufacture the games in their original format anymore and they are rare :|RawDeal_basic

Very good.

You helped my point - though with fairly obvious facts - but thanks.

So if we are basically playing "roms" why are they the same price as the rare carts? Fail more please.

You obviously have no grasp of the difference between cost and worth. The game may cost at least nothing, but if one pays 5 bucks for Super Mario Bros, it's worth 5 bucks. To them at least. Also, off topic, but the TP is definitly the most shameful Nintendo fan I've ever seen. Such a one track mind.
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#49 RawDeal_basic
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[QUOTE="RawDeal_basic"]

[QUOTE="AlexSays"]

Very good.

You helped my point - though with fairly obvious facts - but thanks.

Svarthek

So if we are basically playing "roms" why are they the same price as the rare carts? Fail more please.

You obviously have no grasp of the difference between cost and worth. The game may cost at least nothing, but if one pays 5 bucks for Super Mario Bros, it's worth 5 bucks. To them at least. Also, off topic, but the TP is definitly the most shameful Nintendo fan I've ever seen. Such a one track mind.

Well to me, Super Mario Bros is worth much more than 5 bucks since it's probably the greatest game ever made, but imo it's unethical to charge that much considering the manufacturing cost. But like I said, Nintendo is smart to charge those prices since people will pay.

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but imo it's unethical to charge that much considering the cost..RawDeal_basic
Only things that sell poorly are sold with the manufactoring costs in mind. So you can bet that a lot of things are sold with a (much) higher price than their cost. It's economics. There's nothing unethical about it.