Whats a Wii???? Is it that dusty thing in my entertainment center?todd2r
Funny thing is my PC is a dust magnet with my PS3 coming in 2nd. The Wii and 360 stay fairly clean. And none of this relates to how much use they get.
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That makes no sense at all. So, if I think Wii is better, there's no way I can think PS3 is better than Wii despite PS3 exclusives being different than 360? There's plenty of exclusives on each console that caters to different gamers.Yeah, cuz I'm sure more people play the first/2nd party games on PS3 than the third party games. :roll:You seem to forget those game onl;y make up a very small fraction of both consoles. It's also nice to see you pretend the 360 doesn't have have good 2nd/1st party games, but I can't say I'm surprised. Cows do like to completely ignore them.
vashkey
His point is that since cows hate the 360, they are likely to vote for the Wii over the 360, just to make the 360 look bad.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="samanthademeste"]
I don't see Playstation anywhere on this poll.
samanthademeste
What about hermits?
They'll either not vote, or just vote for whatever console they prefer. Generally, they hate the 360 though, so they might all also vote for the Wii. Is the Wii winning this poll? I haven't voted, and haven't seen the results either.[QUOTE="samanthademeste"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] His point is that since cows hate the 360, they are likely to vote for the Wii over the 360, just to make the 360 look bad.charizard1605
What about hermits?
They'll either not vote, or just vote for whatever console they prefer. Generally, they hate the 360 though, so they might all also vote for the Wii. Is the Wii winning this poll? I haven't voted, and haven't seen the results either.The Wii is winning.
His point is that since cows hate the 360, they are likely to vote for the Wii over the 360, just to make the 360 look bad.charizard1605
What about hermits?
They'll either not vote, or just vote for whatever console they prefer. Generally, they hate the 360 though, so they might all also vote for the Wii. Is the Wii winning this poll? I haven't voted, and haven't seen the results either. yup[QUOTE="samanthademeste"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] His point is that since cows hate the 360, they are likely to vote for the Wii over the 360, just to make the 360 look bad.charizard1605
What about hermits?
They'll either not vote, or just vote for whatever console they prefer. Generally, they hate the 360 though, so they might all also vote for the Wii. Is the Wii winning this poll? I haven't voted, and haven't seen the results either.The Wii has 25 votes while the 360 has 14.[QUOTE="charizard1605"]Lol wow, that just proves my point. The Wii should not be winning this poll by any stretch of the imagination.peterw007
I guess when it comes down to it, people define the "better console" by the quality of its exclusives.
Except that there is more to a console's library than just its exclusives. If I own an Xbox 360, and only an Xbox 360, it won't matter to me that I can play Mass Effect 2 on a PS3, it will matter to me that I can also play it on my Xbox. If I own a Wii and only a Wii, most of the games released are inaccessible to me. The Wii winning this poll is basically proof of the fact that this is a Sheep+Cows vs Lemmings poll, with Hermits going either way.[QUOTE="peterw007"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]Lol wow, that just proves my point. The Wii should not be winning this poll by any stretch of the imagination.charizard1605
I guess when it comes down to it, people define the "better console" by the quality of its exclusives.
Except that there is more to a console's library than just its exclusives. If I own an Xbox 360, and only an Xbox 360, it won't matter to me that I can play Mass Effect 2 on a PS3, it will matter to me that I can also play it on my Xbox. If I own a Wii and only a Wii, most of the games released are inaccessible to me. The Wii winning this poll is basically proof of the fact that this is a Sheep+Cows vs Lemmings poll, with Hermits going either way.Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system.Except that there is more to a console's library than just its exclusives. If I own an Xbox 360, and only an Xbox 360, it won't matter to me that I can play Mass Effect 2 on a PS3, it will matter to me that I can also play it on my Xbox. If I own a Wii and only a Wii, most of the games released are inaccessible to me. The Wii winning this poll is basically proof of the fact that this is a Sheep+Cows vs Lemmings poll, with Hermits going either way.Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system. Owning an Xbox with, say, a PS3 or a PC does make it irrelevant outside of a few exclusives (and LIVE, if you're into that, which I am). In that case, yes, the Wii would be a better investment. However, objectively, how can one even claim that the Wii is a better console than the Xbox? It's baffling to the mind.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="peterw007"]
I guess when it comes down to it, people define the "better console" by the quality of its exclusives.
Bigboi500
Except that there is more to a console's library than just its exclusives. If I own an Xbox 360, and only an Xbox 360, it won't matter to me that I can play Mass Effect 2 on a PS3, it will matter to me that I can also play it on my Xbox. If I own a Wii and only a Wii, most of the games released are inaccessible to me. The Wii winning this poll is basically proof of the fact that this is a Sheep+Cows vs Lemmings poll, with Hermits going either way.Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system. How much do you want to bet though that most of the people who criticize the 360 don't have all the consoles though? And when it comes down to having all the consoles and a high end PC you're bassically owning a 360 and PS3 for only a hand full of games a year.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="peterw007"]
I guess when it comes down to it, people define the "better console" by the quality of its exclusives.
Bigboi500
Really though this isn't xbox 360 vs Wii+PS3+PC
It's 360 vs Wii
[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Wii sucks its not even better than the N64,what makes you think it can be better than the 360 sandbox3d
The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
As a console, the N64 is so much better than the Wii that it's not even funny. The Wii is Nintendo's worst system till date. This includes all their handhelds.[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system. Owning an Xbox with, say, a PS3 or a PC does make it irrelevant outside of a few exclusives (and LIVE, if you're into that, which I am). In that case, yes, the Wii would be a better investment. However, objectively, how can one even claim that the Wii is a better console than the Xbox? It's baffling to the mind.Maybe people just think Mario and Zelda is superior to Halo and Fable. I'd have to agree.[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Except that there is more to a console's library than just its exclusives. If I own an Xbox 360, and only an Xbox 360, it won't matter to me that I can play Mass Effect 2 on a PS3, it will matter to me that I can also play it on my Xbox. If I own a Wii and only a Wii, most of the games released are inaccessible to me. The Wii winning this poll is basically proof of the fact that this is a Sheep+Cows vs Lemmings poll, with Hermits going either way.charizard1605
[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Wii sucks its not even better than the N64,what makes you think it can be better than the 360 sandbox3d
The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
I disagree. Alot of the Nintendo's N64 games are fan favorites and genre defining classics. The same can't really be said of the Wii's games save for maybe the Super Mario Galaxy titles.[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system. Owning an Xbox with, say, a PS3 or a PC does make it irrelevant outside of a few exclusives (and LIVE, if you're into that, which I am). In that case, yes, the Wii would be a better investment. However, objectively, how can one even claim that the Wii is a better console than the Xbox? It's baffling to the mind. It's just opinions, some people don't need a 360 to play ganes they can play on their ps3 or pc. I sold my wii for a 360 bcuz my first 360 got stolen and I regret it.[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Except that there is more to a console's library than just its exclusives. If I own an Xbox 360, and only an Xbox 360, it won't matter to me that I can play Mass Effect 2 on a PS3, it will matter to me that I can also play it on my Xbox. If I own a Wii and only a Wii, most of the games released are inaccessible to me. The Wii winning this poll is basically proof of the fact that this is a Sheep+Cows vs Lemmings poll, with Hermits going either way.charizard1605
[QUOTE="Bucked20"]Wii sucks its not even better than the N64,what makes you think it can be better than the 360 sandbox3d
The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
Playing James Bond Goldeneye on N64 is better than playing any game on the wiiOwning an Xbox with, say, a PS3 or a PC does make it irrelevant outside of a few exclusives (and LIVE, if you're into that, which I am). In that case, yes, the Wii would be a better investment. However, objectively, how can one even claim that the Wii is a better console than the Xbox? It's baffling to the mind.Maybe people just think Mario and Zelda is superior to Halo and Fable. I'd have to agree. I love Mario and Zelda as much as the next guy- maybe even more, Zelda is my all time favorite series after all- but can Nintendo first party exclusives actually be better than the ENTIRE CATALOG of the Xbox? If it were just first parties, or exclusives, I'd agree that the Wii is better, then it's not even a competition, the Wii wins thoroughly. However, the question is asking which is a better console overall, and for the final time, there is more to a system than its exclusives.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system.
Bigboi500
[QUOTE="sandbox3d"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]Wii sucks its not even better than the N64,what makes you think it can be better than the 360 vashkey
The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
I disagree. Alot of the Nintendo's N64 games are fan favorites and genre defining classics. The same can't really be said of the Wii's games save for maybe the Super Mario Galaxy titles. And Brawl. And Skyward Sword, maybe.Owning an Xbox with, say, a PS3 or a PC does make it irrelevant outside of a few exclusives (and LIVE, if you're into that, which I am). In that case, yes, the Wii would be a better investment. However, objectively, how can one even claim that the Wii is a better console than the Xbox? It's baffling to the mind.Maybe people just think Mario and Zelda is superior to Halo and Fable. I'd have to agree. On a strictly 360 vs Wii debate though you've got way more than just Microsoft's own efforts to talk about here...[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system.
Bigboi500
Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system. How much do you want to bet though that most of the people who criticize the 360 don't have all the consoles though? And when it comes down to having all the consoles and a high end PC you're bassically owning a 360 and PS3 for only a hand full of games a year.[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]
[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Except that there is more to a console's library than just its exclusives. If I own an Xbox 360, and only an Xbox 360, it won't matter to me that I can play Mass Effect 2 on a PS3, it will matter to me that I can also play it on my Xbox. If I own a Wii and only a Wii, most of the games released are inaccessible to me. The Wii winning this poll is basically proof of the fact that this is a Sheep+Cows vs Lemmings poll, with Hermits going either way.vashkey
Really though this isn't xbox 360 vs Wii+PS3+PC
It's 360 vs Wii
If I had to chose between the two and only own one system I'd still pick the Wii. I'd take SMG, MKW, Skyward Sword, Muramasa, Monster Hunter, Rune Factory, DKCR and other Wii games over all the mainstream blockbuster multiplats. That's just me.[QUOTE="sandbox3d"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]Wii sucks its not even better than the N64,what makes you think it can be better than the 360 Bucked20
The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
Playing James Bond Goldeneye on N64 is better than playing any game on the wiiYeah and I guess the original Crash Bandicoot is better than every game on PS3 as well. Seriously man, try actually playing games on a console before bashing it.
[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]I disagree. Alot of the Nintendo's N64 games are fan favorites and genre defining classics. The same can't really be said of the Wii's games save for maybe the Super Mario Galaxy titles. And Brawl. And Skyward Sword, maybe. Brawl is maybe better than the original Smash, I'll grant you that(although I still prefer the original), but I don't think it was a well received a Melee. Skyward Sword, we'll just have to wait and see, it's not even out yet and so I don't think it's fair to include it into the debate.The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
charizard1605
How much do you want to bet though that most of the people who criticize the 360 don't have all the consoles though? And when it comes down to having all the consoles and a high end PC you're bassically owning a 360 and PS3 for only a hand full of games a year.[QUOTE="vashkey"]
[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Another scenario would be most gamers owning more than just one or two systems so the 360 becomes irrelevant when they own a PS3 and/or gaming PC. That's what not having enough quality exclusives does for your system.
Bigboi500
Really though this isn't xbox 360 vs Wii+PS3+PC
It's 360 vs Wii
If I had to chose between the two and only own one system I'd still pick the Wii. I'd take SMG, MKW, Skyward Sword, Muramasa, Monster Hunter, Rune Factory, DKCR and other Wii games over all the mainstream blockbuster multiplats. That's just me. Fine, that's great. That's your preference. However, don't you find it fishy that most people on here dismiss the Wii for not having those mainstream titles, and then when it is compared to a system that HAS all those mainstream titles, it still somehow manages to win? What is it, System Wars? Do you prefer the Wii's exclusives to all the big budget titles released this generation, or not? You can't have it both ways, you know.[QUOTE="sandbox3d"][QUOTE="Bucked20"]Wii sucks its not even better than the N64,what makes you think it can be better than the 360 charizard1605
The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
As a console, the N64 is so much better than the Wii that it's not even funny. The Wii is Nintendo's worst system till date. This includes all their handhelds. The Wii has far more third party support than the N64 ever had, N64 was almost nothing but Nintendo and Rare. The N64 had a terribly limited library.[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]I disagree. Alot of the Nintendo's N64 games are fan favorites and genre defining classics. The same can't really be said of the Wii's games save for maybe the Super Mario Galaxy titles. And Brawl. And Skyward Sword, maybe.The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
charizard1605
The only 1st party Nintendo titles from the N64 that can still stand against their current iterations are the Zelda games and I'm not even sure if that will hold true after Skyward Sword.
I know things on N64 were ground breaking at the time, but what does the N64 really have that stands up to the Wii today?
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]As a console, the N64 is so much better than the Wii that it's not even funny. The Wii is Nintendo's worst system till date. This includes all their handhelds. The Wii has far more third party support than the N64 ever had, N64 was almost nothing but Nintendo and Rare. The N64 had a terribly limited library. And yet that limited library was so far ahead of its time and so defining that people still talk about it to this day. How many Wii games will we be talking about fifteen years from now? The Mario trifecta, Brawl, and maybe DKCR and Skyward Sword...?The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
meetroid8
And Brawl. And Skyward Sword, maybe.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="vashkey"] I disagree. Alot of the Nintendo's N64 games are fan favorites and genre defining classics. The same can't really be said of the Wii's games save for maybe the Super Mario Galaxy titles.sandbox3d
The only 1st party Nintendo titles from the N64 that can still stand against their current iterations are the Zelda games and I'm not even sure if that will hold true after Skyward Sword.
I know things on N64 were ground breaking at the time, but what does the N64 really have that stands up to the Wii today?
You need to compare each system for its time. Comparing the N64 as it is today to as the Wii is today is unfair.Playing James Bond Goldeneye on N64 is better than playing any game on the wii[QUOTE="Bucked20"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]
The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
sandbox3d
Yeah and I guess the original Crash Bandicoot is better than every game on PS3 as well. Seriously man, try actually playing games on a console before bashing it.
I've played the wii enough times to know it sucks[QUOTE="sandbox3d"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] And Brawl. And Skyward Sword, maybe.charizard1605
The only 1st party Nintendo titles from the N64 that can still stand against their current iterations are the Zelda games and I'm not even sure if that will hold true after Skyward Sword.
I know things on N64 were ground breaking at the time, but what does the N64 really have that stands up to the Wii today?
You need to compare each system for its time. Comparing the N64 as it is today to as the Wii is today is unfair.Well of course its not fair, because the Wii is better.
The original post that started this conversation was a guy saying that the N64 is better than the Wii (the same guy that said Goldeneye is better than everything in the Wii library).
Of course if we compare them for their place in time things are different, but I'm not doing that at all. I'm simply comparing two consoles for what they are.
[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]As a console, the N64 is so much better than the Wii that it's not even funny. The Wii is Nintendo's worst system till date. This includes all their handhelds. The Wii has far more third party support than the N64 ever had, N64 was almost nothing but Nintendo and Rare. The N64 had a terribly limited library.The Wii is a great deal better than the N64. Not only are there much more games on the Wii, but the 1st/2nd party Wii line up crushes the N64 counterpart.
meetroid8
How many of the Wii's third party games will be as fondly remembered as the N64 classics though? I mean, what is there? No More Heroes and what?
Xenoblade is the only 3rd party Wii game that even breaks 90% on gameranking in addition to RE4... which is a port of a last gen title. And Xenoblade is more of a niche title that wasn't even release in a whole lot of regions.
While the 3rd party support is an improvement it's hardly something to write home about.
You need to compare each system for its time. Comparing the N64 as it is today to as the Wii is today is unfair.[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="sandbox3d"]
The only 1st party Nintendo titles from the N64 that can still stand against their current iterations are the Zelda games and I'm not even sure if that will hold true after Skyward Sword.
I know things on N64 were ground breaking at the time, but what does the N64 really have that stands up to the Wii today?
sandbox3d
Well of course its not fair, because the Wii is better.
The original post that started this conversation was a guy saying that the N64 is better than the Wii (the same guy that said Goldeneye is better than everything in the Wii library).
Of course if we compare them for their place in time things are different, but I'm not doing that at all. I'm simply comparing two consoles for what they are.
The Wii is better because it has all the improvements that are expected of it (although not to the extent that it should- it has online, but how laughable is that? It has better graphics, but they're barely a generation better than the N64's. It's controller is not necessarily better than the N64's). As a system, the N64 was revolutionary, and we will probably never get anything else like it. The Wii... well, the Wii was a mistake, plain and simple.The Wii has far more third party support than the N64 ever had, N64 was almost nothing but Nintendo and Rare. The N64 had a terribly limited library.[QUOTE="meetroid8"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] As a console, the N64 is so much better than the Wii that it's not even funny. The Wii is Nintendo's worst system till date. This includes all their handhelds.vashkey
How many of the Wii's third party games will be as fondly remembered as the N64 classics though? I mean, what is there? No More Heroes and what?
Xenoblade is the only 3rd party Wii game that even breaks 90% on gameranking in addition to RE4... which is a port of a last gen title. And Xenoblade is more of a niche title that wasn't even release in a whole lot of regions.
While the 3rd party support is an improvement it's hardly something to write home about.
Xenoblade is actually a first party title :P[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]If I had to chose between the two and only own one system I'd still pick the Wii. I'd take SMG, MKW, Skyward Sword, Muramasa, Monster Hunter, Rune Factory, DKCR and other Wii games over all the mainstream blockbuster multiplats. That's just me. Fine, that's great. That's your preference. However, don't you find it fishy that most people on here dismiss the Wii for not having those mainstream titles, and then when it is compared to a system that HAS all those mainstream titles, it still somehow manages to win? What is it, System Wars? Do you prefer the Wii's exclusives to all the big budget titles released this generation, or not? You can't have it both ways, you know.It's pointless to say this group says this, that group says that, because we all don't see the same things or experience the same things. Everybody has a different preference and experience, whether it be on System Wars or when they fire up a game system.[QUOTE="vashkey"] How much do you want to bet though that most of the people who criticize the 360 don't have all the consoles though? And when it comes down to having all the consoles and a high end PC you're bassically owning a 360 and PS3 for only a hand full of games a year.
Really though this isn't xbox 360 vs Wii+PS3+PC
It's 360 vs Wii
charizard1605
It's not that hard for me to believe that a lot of people don't particularly care for the Xbox 360, for whatever reason.
I will remember the Wii far more than the 360 ... whether thats a good thing or not is irrelevant lol.
[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="meetroid8"] The Wii has far more third party support than the N64 ever had, N64 was almost nothing but Nintendo and Rare. The N64 had a terribly limited library. charizard1605
How many of the Wii's third party games will be as fondly remembered as the N64 classics though? I mean, what is there? No More Heroes and what?
Xenoblade is the only 3rd party Wii game that even breaks 90% on gameranking in addition to RE4... which is a port of a last gen title. And Xenoblade is more of a niche title that wasn't even release in a whole lot of regions.
While the 3rd party support is an improvement it's hardly something to write home about.
Xenoblade is actually a first party title :P Oh... Well then after RE4 is Okami with 89%.... Which is another last gen port... So the highest rated 3rd party Wii game that isn't a last gen port is Tiger Woods PGA Tour 10... Which is multiplat.Please Log In to post.
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