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[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

made it better over the PS2 version not nessasarallyover the PS3/360 version.....if it was graded the way the PS3/360 versions were graded it would have scored significally lower.

HarlockJC

PS3/360 version is not has good has the Wii's version based on the rating Gamespot gave them. It matters little if they were compared to other games or not. The Wii's version is rated better rating.

Deal with it

 

with that logic madden PS2 version is better than Madden PS3 version :| ive played both and in no way is madden PS2 version better then PS3 version.

If it was rated better than yes it is...You may not agree with that but it matters little this is Gamespots board...I don't like the fact that Zelda is not an AAA but I have to deal with that

You dont know how GS reviews games, ill send you a link so youll know....ill be back.

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[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What ever version of Madden is represented at the Madden Challenge is the only version of Madden I will play. Blackbond

Why not buy both versions??? One Madden you can have fun with and a different experience and the other Madden for serious competition and for the Madden Challenge!!!

Playing the Wii Madden would make thins way more complicated for me even if it was more simple lol. I've been playing Madden for when 13,14,15 who knows how many years. I've perfected my game on my strongest asset. Timing. To use motion controls I'd have to extensively rework my whole game plan and relearn timing. I know how long it takes to press a button, I know down to the less of a second what to do on a given play call. Button presses are always consistant. Motion control can't be unless you are a trained athlete that can do the same exact motion EVERY SINGLE TIME lol. I just couldn't change. I'm a Machine and this is the way I was programmed to play Madden. Any other game I could adapt but never Madden. It just wouldn't work for me. Should the Madden Challenge move to Wii then wow I'm going to have a tough learning curve.

You don't have to be an athlete to make consistent motions with your hand/arm. To suggest that you do is silly.

If I told you to write your name on a piece of paper ten times in the same exact way in the same amount of time could you do it every time? 

You don't have to be that exact.

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#53 -Sir-Poof-
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http://www.gamespot.com/misc/reviewguidelines.html

 

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What ever version of Madden is represented at the Madden Challenge is the only version of Madden I will play. Number_1_Gamer

Why not buy both versions??? One Madden you can have fun with and a different experience and the other Madden for serious competition and for the Madden Challenge!!!

Playing the Wii Madden would make thins way more complicated for me even if it was more simple lol. I've been playing Madden for when 13,14,15 who knows how many years. I've perfected my game on my strongest asset. Timing. To use motion controls I'd have to extensively rework my whole game plan and relearn timing. I know how long it takes to press a button, I know down to the less of a second what to do on a given play call. Button presses are always consistant. Motion control can't be unless you are a trained athlete that can do the same exact motion EVERY SINGLE TIME lol. I just couldn't change. I'm a Machine and this is the way I was programmed to play Madden. Any other game I could adapt but never Madden. It just wouldn't work for me. Should the Madden Challenge move to Wii then wow I'm going to have a tough learning curve.

You don't have to be an athlete to make consistent motions with your hand/arm. To suggest that you do is silly.

If I told you to write your name on a piece of paper ten times in the same exact way in the same amount of time could you do it every time?

You don't have to be that exact.

Yes you do. Throwing the ball half a second late can be the difference between a reception and a highly skilled player pulling a user pick and returning it for a touch down. Timing is everything in Madden. Sure if you play casual you can just mess around and stuff. But when you are playing highly skilled people and semi pro's timing is everything. You have to no everything. 

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[QUOTE="OldSkoolGamer04"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"][QUOTE="OldSkoolGamer04"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"][QUOTE="bionicle_lover"][QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]as a former madden player there isnt much new on that list, then when you add in the fact that the graphics will continue to look like last gen and most likely to use the same animations of past maddens :?.....this game will be hard to enjoy.-Sir-Poof-

Don't forget that the out of the last madden's the Wii's Madden got the best score

Well it wasnt graded the way madden PS3 and 360 were...it truly did keep the feel of last gen madden just implemented the motion sensing which boosted the score over the PS2 version.

but the new controll actually makes it better than the graphics did. that was the big achievement.  

made it better over the PS2 version not nessasarally over the PS3/360 version.....if it was graded the way the PS3/360 versions were graded it would have scored significally lower.

Did you miss the part where the Wii version got the "Best" tag, which takes all versions into consideration?

so when scoring it they took all consoles into consideration? because if they did i dont believe it would have scored a 7 in the graphics department if that was the case. face it it was scored against last gen consoles which helped it score AA.

Again, what does the score matter? It got the "best" tag. That's all that matters. Even if they gave it a 5, if it has the "best" tag, that means it's the best version. What is so hard to understand?

so with that logic, If i had a PS3 I should pick up the PS2 version because it scored better then the PS3 version, right?

That isn't what the "Best" tag means. It isn't directly related to the score. It's possible for one game to have a lower score than the other, yet still be considered the better game. Zelda: TP is an example. It means the version of the game GS prefers over all the others.

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To Sir Proof:

The PS2 version is indeed better then the PS3 version. In fact the xbox and PS2 versions were better then their next gen counter parts. 

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Madden 07 was awesome for the wii. Hopefully this one will be also.
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Damage Control for the cows and lemmings.
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[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What ever version of Madden is represented at the Madden Challenge is the only version of Madden I will play. Blackbond

Why not buy both versions??? One Madden you can have fun with and a different experience and the other Madden for serious competition and for the Madden Challenge!!!

Playing the Wii Madden would make thins way more complicated for me even if it was more simple lol. I've been playing Madden for when 13,14,15 who knows how many years. I've perfected my game on my strongest asset. Timing. To use motion controls I'd have to extensively rework my whole game plan and relearn timing. I know how long it takes to press a button, I know down to the less of a second what to do on a given play call. Button presses are always consistant. Motion control can't be unless you are a trained athlete that can do the same exact motion EVERY SINGLE TIME lol. I just couldn't change. I'm a Machine and this is the way I was programmed to play Madden. Any other game I could adapt but never Madden. It just wouldn't work for me. Should the Madden Challenge move to Wii then wow I'm going to have a tough learning curve.

You don't have to be an athlete to make consistent motions with your hand/arm. To suggest that you do is silly.

If I told you to write your name on a piece of paper ten times in the same exact way in the same amount of time could you do it every time?

You don't have to be that exact.

Yes you do. Throwing the ball half a second late can be the difference between a reception and a highly skilled player pulling a user pick and returning it for a touch down. Timing is everything in Madden. Sure if you play casual you can just mess around and stuff. But when you are playing highly skilled people and semi pro's timing is everything. You have to no everything.

 

Then learn how to time your throws properly on a different controller, seriously. Just because you aren't used to the Wiimote doesnt mean that its less precise. The Wii version is far superior, was last year and will be this year.

Sadly Madden is awful. Hopefully the new Tecmo Bowl will come to the Wii. 

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[QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What ever version of Madden is represented at the Madden Challenge is the only version of Madden I will play. Blackbond

Why not buy both versions??? One Madden you can have fun with and a different experience and the other Madden for serious competition and for the Madden Challenge!!!

Playing the Wii Madden would make thins way more complicated for me even if it was more simple lol. I've been playing Madden for when 13,14,15 who knows how many years. I've perfected my game on my strongest asset. Timing. To use motion controls I'd have to extensively rework my whole game plan and relearn timing. I know how long it takes to press a button, I know down to the less of a second what to do on a given play call. Button presses are always consistant. Motion control can't be unless you are a trained athlete that can do the same exact motion EVERY SINGLE TIME lol. I just couldn't change. I'm a Machine and this is the way I was programmed to play Madden. Any other game I could adapt but never Madden. It just wouldn't work for me. Should the Madden Challenge move to Wii then wow I'm going to have a tough learning curve.

You don't have to be an athlete to make consistent motions with your hand/arm. To suggest that you do is silly.

If I told you to write your name on a piece of paper ten times in the same exact way in the same amount of time could you do it every time?

You don't have to be that exact.

Yes you do. Throwing the ball half a second late can be the difference between a reception and a highly skilled player pulling a user pick and returning it for a touch down. Timing is everything in Madden. Sure if you play casual you can just mess around and stuff. But when you are playing highly skilled people and semi pro's timing is everything. You have to no everything.

not true... decision making is more important.
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#61 -Sir-Poof-
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To Sir Proof:

The PS2 version is indeed better then the PS3 version. In fact the xbox and PS2 versions were better then their next gen counter parts. 

Blackbond

I would agree with that statement if you were referring to 06 but not 07.

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#62 gander448
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NFL 2k5>Madden last gen>Madden wii>Madden next gen(although 08 looks promising)

 and soon to add all pro 2k8 to the front of the list :D 

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#63 -Sir-Poof-
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Damage Control for the cows and lemmings.hyruledweller

Not really, sheep are getting overly excited for a last gen Madden which realllllly shocks me. EA Sports will be putting all their focus on the PS3/360 version which I pray to God they do a good job with this year, 05 was their best installment Im waiting for them to surpass it.

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[QUOTE="hyruledweller"]Damage Control for the cows and lemmings.-Sir-Poof-

Not really, sheep are getting overly excited for a last gen Madden which realllllly shocks me. EA Sports will be putting all their focus on the PS3/360 version which I pray to God they do a good job with this year, 05 was their best installment Im waiting for them to surpass it.

You know why most Nintendo fans are getting into Madden 08 is because I think that most Nintendo fans are not big Madden fans. The fact that Madden 08 is so off the wall when compared to the PS3/360 and because it is almost another game than the PS3/360 is why they want to play it. I can not say for everyone I own I don't know how many game systems and have never cared about any madden of any kind. But when I read about the mini-games and the way this one plays using the motion it sounds amazing fun compared to all the other Maddens.

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Damage Control for the cows and lemmings.hyruledweller
over a Madden Game?

sure.. :?

 

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http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

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http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

PhoebusFlows

This is Gamespot... Gamespot is all that matters here.

Fact is, Madden '07 Wii was the best according to Gamespot. 

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http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

PhoebusFlows
what happens when madden 08 releases on the wii has full online?  Then the wii will be the best console for madden? You have timed ownage
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[QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

GunSmith1_basic

what happens when madden 08 releases on the wii has full online? Then the wii will be the best console for madden? You have timed ownage

He has no ownage. As I said, this is gamespot. Wii = best version. 

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Gamespot also said Gears of War and Perfect Dark >>> Twilight Princess

I didn't say this, Gamespot did. :?

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Dear Sir Proof,

 

I went to the link you gave regarding gamespots reviewing methods. And i thin you should read something.

""Which version of this game should I get?"
For the convenience of players with access to multiple gaming platforms, some GameSpot reviews of multiplatform games provide an at-a-glance graphical designation for the best available version of a multiplatform game. The "best" graphical designation implies that if you own every system, one particular version of the game should provide the best experience overall, even if the experience is only marginally better. We determine "best" status based on any major or minor differences we identify across the respective versions of a given multiplatform game and assume, for the case of PC versions of games, that you own a high-end system. We will not designate a "best" version of a multiplatform game that does not earn a good score in the first place.
"

 

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Gamespot also said Gears of War and Perfect Dark >>> Twilight Princess

I didn't say this, Gamespot did. :?

PhoebusFlows

Yes, Twilight Princess flopped, we know.

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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

Homesrfan

what happens when madden 08 releases on the wii has full online? Then the wii will be the best console for madden? You have timed ownage

He has no ownage. As I said, this is gamespot. Wii = best version. 

this is not directed towards you personally but thats the thing,sheep use Gamespot Scores unless its not in thier Favor..and then they revert to GameRankings.

so make up your minds,sheep..it is Gamespot or GameRankings? :?

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Gamespot also said Gears of War and Perfect Dark >>> Twilight Princess

I didn't say this, Gamespot did. :?

PhoebusFlows

well thats when GameRankings comes into play to avoid any ownage.lol

 

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this is not directed towards you personally but thats the thing,sheep use Gamespot Scores unless its not in thier Favor..and then they revert to GameRankings.

so make up your minds,sheep..it is Gamespot or GameRankings? :?

jessesalinas

I've wondered about this too. I do not find much consistency among the Sheep. I could point to IGN but they said it doesn't count. But then they use Gamerankings for some other game. It's so confusing. (and why should I stick with what they want, who wrote this rule?)

If you have to claim superiority by tiny decimal points, that's not much of a victory for me. Also on the IGn reviews, the Xbox 360 earns the same score as Wii. Both have positives, both have negatives. It's not a landslide victory for the Wii version.

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#76 jessesalinas
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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"]this is not directed towards you personally but thats the thing,sheep use Gamespot Scores unless its not in thier Favor..and then they revert to GameRankings.

so make up your minds,sheep..it is Gamespot or GameRankings? :?

PhoebusFlows

I've wondered about this too. I do not find much consistency among the Sheep. I could point to IGN but they said it doesn't count. But then they use Gamerankings for some other game. It's so confusing. (and why should I stick with what they want, who wrote this rule?)

If you have to claim superiority by tiny decimal points, that's not much of a victory for me. Also on the IGn reviews, the Xbox 360 earns the same score as Wii. Both have positives, both have negatives. It's not a landslide victory for the Wii version.

another thing that gets me about some Fanboys is its ok for Metroid Prime and Zelda Windwaker to be GOTY at Gamespot..

But not Gears of War..because its Overrated. :?

Fanboys :roll:

 

 

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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

jessesalinas

what happens when madden 08 releases on the wii has full online? Then the wii will be the best console for madden? You have timed ownage

He has no ownage. As I said, this is gamespot. Wii = best version.

this is not directed towards you personally but thats the thing,sheep use Gamespot Scores unless its not in thier Favor..and then they revert to GameRankings.

so make up your minds,sheep..it is Gamespot or GameRankings? :?

When does this ever happen? I can only think of it maybe happening with Zelda because every other site gave it 9's and up. But I know all sheep don't do that, and it's definitely not just the sheep. PhoebusFlows just did it...

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I see a lot of excuses why the Wii version of '07 scored higher.  Too bad they're just that: excuses.
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[QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

Homesrfan

what happens when madden 08 releases on the wii has full online? Then the wii will be the best console for madden? You have timed ownage

He has no ownage. As I said, this is gamespot. Wii = best version.

this is not directed towards you personally but thats the thing,sheep use Gamespot Scores unless its not in thier Favor..and then they revert to GameRankings.

so make up your minds,sheep..it is Gamespot or GameRankings? :?

When does this ever happen? I can only think of it maybe happening with Zelda because every other site gave it 9's and up. But I know all sheep don't do that, and it's definitely not just the sheep. PhoebusFlows just did it...

Oh man. It happens countless times, I think you're choosing to pretend it doesn't happen when sheep bring up IGN and Gamerankings. To be fair, so do cows and lemmings, but nobody ever agreed officially on what to use. If you ask me, I have always used all sites. You get a better avaerage and an idea of a other opinions. When you buy a video game, do you just look at Gamespot only before deciding? No, you use magazines like EGM, Famitsu (which Sheep use I seen you), IGN, Gamespot, etc to help you get a better grasp of what this game is like.

 

besides, what if the reviewer on Gamespot was extra harsh, unfair or biased towards that game? Do we want the entire success of a game to exist on just that one review?

It seems almost a bit childish to make a rule saying all other professional reviews are barred from Gamespot. I don't see any sticky thread, FAQ, or guideline saying this. It's a unwritten but flimsy rule, and I don't have to follow it. ;)

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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

PhoebusFlows

what happens when madden 08 releases on the wii has full online? Then the wii will be the best console for madden? You have timed ownage

He has no ownage. As I said, this is gamespot. Wii = best version.

this is not directed towards you personally but thats the thing,sheep use Gamespot Scores unless its not in thier Favor..and then they revert to GameRankings.

so make up your minds,sheep..it is Gamespot or GameRankings? :?

When does this ever happen? I can only think of it maybe happening with Zelda because every other site gave it 9's and up. But I know all sheep don't do that, and it's definitely not just the sheep. PhoebusFlows just did it...

Oh man. It happens countless times, I think you're choosing to pretend it doesn't happen when sheep bring up IGN and Gamerankings. To be fair, so do cows and lemmings, but nobody ever agreed officially on what to use. If you ask me, I have always used all sites. You get a better avaerage and an idea of a other opinions. When you buy a video game, do you just look at Gamespot only before deciding? No, you use magazines like EGM, Famitsu (which Sheep use I seen you), IGN, Gamespot, etc to help you get a better grasp of what this game is like.

 

besides, what if the reviewer on Gamespot was extra harsh, unfair or biased towards that game? Do we want the entire success of a game to exist on just that one review?

It seems almost a bit childish to make a rule saying all other professional reviews are barred from Gamespot. I don't see any sticky thread, FAQ, or guideline saying this. It's a unwritten but flimsy rule, and I don't have to follow it. ;)

1.) I have never seen sheep use gamerankings over GS more than cows or lemmings.

2.) Gamespot is the official word on reviews. When you saw all the Zelda flop threads... those were because of Gamespot's score. Not because of IGN's 9.5 score.

Then again, I've been here for a while but not forever. 

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[QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="jessesalinas"][QUOTE="Homesrfan"][QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]

http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/itemsearch.asp

Looking at GameRankings, Madden 07 Wii barely beats the Xbox 360/PS3 versions, and the Xbox verion actually beats the Wii version! :lol: (it also helps the Xbox has something called ONLINE, which is beyond me how Nintendo is so slow with that)

For so called "revolutionary gameplay", it doesn't really impress by the numbers. I think Sheep are overhyping the madden 08.

PhoebusFlows

what happens when madden 08 releases on the wii has full online? Then the wii will be the best console for madden? You have timed ownage

He has no ownage. As I said, this is gamespot. Wii = best version.

this is not directed towards you personally but thats the thing,sheep use Gamespot Scores unless its not in thier Favor..and then they revert to GameRankings.

so make up your minds,sheep..it is Gamespot or GameRankings? :?

When does this ever happen? I can only think of it maybe happening with Zelda because every other site gave it 9's and up. But I know all sheep don't do that, and it's definitely not just the sheep. PhoebusFlows just did it...

Oh man. It happens countless times, I think you're choosing to pretend it doesn't happen when sheep bring up IGN and Gamerankings. To be fair, so do cows and lemmings, but nobody ever agreed officially on what to use. If you ask me, I have always used all sites. You get a better avaerage and an idea of a other opinions. When you buy a video game, do you just look at Gamespot only before deciding? No, you use magazines like EGM, Famitsu (which Sheep use I seen you), IGN, Gamespot, etc to help you get a better grasp of what this game is like.

 

besides, what if the reviewer on Gamespot was extra harsh, unfair or biased towards that game? Do we want the entire success of a game to exist on just that one review?

It seems almost a bit childish to make a rule saying all other professional reviews are barred from Gamespot. I don't see any sticky thread, FAQ, or guideline saying this. It's a unwritten but flimsy rule, and I don't have to follow it. ;)

Hence the reason why sheep never get own3d.they always have some excuse.

Even when Super Mario Sunshine Flopped they tried to Change the Rules a.k.a. avoid ownage.

 

 

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Gamespot also said Gears of War and Perfect Dark >>> Twilight Princess

I didn't say this, Gamespot did. :?

PhoebusFlows

What does that have to do with Madden? 

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What ever version of Madden is represented at the Madden Challenge is the only version of Madden I will play. Treal_basic

Why not buy both versions??? One Madden you can have fun with and a different experience and the other Madden for serious competition and for the Madden Challenge!!!

Playing the Wii Madden would make thins way more complicated for me even if it was more simple lol. I've been playing Madden for when 13,14,15 who knows how many years. I've perfected my game on my strongest asset. Timing. To use motion controls I'd have to extensively rework my whole game plan and relearn timing. I know how long it takes to press a button, I know down to the less of a second what to do on a given play call. Button presses are always consistant. Motion control can't be unless you are a trained athlete that can do the same exact motion EVERY SINGLE TIME lol. I just couldn't change. I'm a Machine and this is the way I was programmed to play Madden. Any other game I could adapt but never Madden. It just wouldn't work for me. Should the Madden Challenge move to Wii then wow I'm going to have a tough learning curve.

You don't have to be an athlete to make consistent motions with your hand/arm. To suggest that you do is silly.

If I told you to write your name on a piece of paper ten times in the same exact way in the same amount of time could you do it every time?

You don't have to be that exact.

Yes you do. Throwing the ball half a second late can be the difference between a reception and a highly skilled player pulling a user pick and returning it for a touch down. Timing is everything in Madden. Sure if you play casual you can just mess around and stuff. But when you are playing highly skilled people and semi pro's timing is everything. You have to no everything.

not true... decision making is more important.

Well of course play calling and decision making is important too. But timing is equally important as well. A badly time good decision is still going to turn out bad. 

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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What ever version of Madden is represented at the Madden Challenge is the only version of Madden I will play. hazuki87

Why not buy both versions??? One Madden you can have fun with and a different experience and the other Madden for serious competition and for the Madden Challenge!!!

Playing the Wii Madden would make thins way more complicated for me even if it was more simple lol. I've been playing Madden for when 13,14,15 who knows how many years. I've perfected my game on my strongest asset. Timing. To use motion controls I'd have to extensively rework my whole game plan and relearn timing. I know how long it takes to press a button, I know down to the less of a second what to do on a given play call. Button presses are always consistant. Motion control can't be unless you are a trained athlete that can do the same exact motion EVERY SINGLE TIME lol. I just couldn't change. I'm a Machine and this is the way I was programmed to play Madden. Any other game I could adapt but never Madden. It just wouldn't work for me. Should the Madden Challenge move to Wii then wow I'm going to have a tough learning curve.

You don't have to be an athlete to make consistent motions with your hand/arm. To suggest that you do is silly.

If I told you to write your name on a piece of paper ten times in the same exact way in the same amount of time could you do it every time?

You don't have to be that exact.

Yes you do. Throwing the ball half a second late can be the difference between a reception and a highly skilled player pulling a user pick and returning it for a touch down. Timing is everything in Madden. Sure if you play casual you can just mess around and stuff. But when you are playing highly skilled people and semi pro's timing is everything. You have to no everything.

 

Then learn how to time your throws properly on a different controller, seriously. Just because you aren't used to the Wiimote doesnt mean that its less precise. The Wii version is far superior, was last year and will be this year.

Sadly Madden is awful. Hopefully the new Tecmo Bowl will come to the Wii.

I said I could learn it would just take time. Time I'm not really trying to invest. I have a Wii, the Wii doesn't bother me. But when you've playd the game for almost 15 years everything is natural and changing would be difficult. Learning the timing isn't hard. Its being 100% consistant with your hand motions 100% of the time that is the problem. I can guarentee 99%+ consistant by pressing a button easy. I can get the same result at the same exact time every time. But moving your arms would require a great deal of practice and know how to play the game the way I play. There is nothing wrong with Madden for Wii. But a lot of you are seriously underestimating the Hardcore Madden Players who have dedicated so much to the game. Hell the transition to xbox to ps2 was frustrating at first and caused a lot of people to change up their game. 

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[QUOTE="hazuki87"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"]

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]What ever version of Madden is represented at the Madden Challenge is the only version of Madden I will play. Blackbond

Why not buy both versions??? One Madden you can have fun with and a different experience and the other Madden for serious competition and for the Madden Challenge!!!

Playing the Wii Madden would make thins way more complicated for me even if it was more simple lol. I've been playing Madden for when 13,14,15 who knows how many years. I've perfected my game on my strongest asset. Timing. To use motion controls I'd have to extensively rework my whole game plan and relearn timing. I know how long it takes to press a button, I know down to the less of a second what to do on a given play call. Button presses are always consistant. Motion control can't be unless you are a trained athlete that can do the same exact motion EVERY SINGLE TIME lol. I just couldn't change. I'm a Machine and this is the way I was programmed to play Madden. Any other game I could adapt but never Madden. It just wouldn't work for me. Should the Madden Challenge move to Wii then wow I'm going to have a tough learning curve.

You don't have to be an athlete to make consistent motions with your hand/arm. To suggest that you do is silly.

If I told you to write your name on a piece of paper ten times in the same exact way in the same amount of time could you do it every time?

You don't have to be that exact.

Yes you do. Throwing the ball half a second late can be the difference between a reception and a highly skilled player pulling a user pick and returning it for a touch down. Timing is everything in Madden. Sure if you play casual you can just mess around and stuff. But when you are playing highly skilled people and semi pro's timing is everything. You have to no everything.

 

Then learn how to time your throws properly on a different controller, seriously. Just because you aren't used to the Wiimote doesnt mean that its less precise. The Wii version is far superior, was last year and will be this year.

Sadly Madden is awful. Hopefully the new Tecmo Bowl will come to the Wii.

I said I could learn it would just take time. Time I'm not really trying to invest. I have a Wii, the Wii doesn't bother me. But when you've playd the game for almost 15 years everything is natural and changing would be difficult. Learning the timing isn't hard. Its being 100% consistant with your hand motions 100% of the time that is the problem. I can guarentee 99%+ consistant by pressing a button easy. I can get the same result at the same exact time every time. But moving your arms would require a great deal of practice and know how to play the game the way I play. There is nothing wrong with Madden for Wii. But a lot of you are seriously underestimating the Hardcore Madden Players who have dedicated so much to the game. Hell the transition to xbox to ps2 was frustrating at first and caused a lot of people to change up their game. 

I see what your getting at. When I play guitar hero I am pretty good for the first couple of songs but after awhile the more tired my hands become the worse I get. I end up having to just stop playing all together.

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Madden 2008. Best on Wii. TekkenMaster606

best on 360 i gaurantee.

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Madden 2008. Best on Wii. tree-branch

best on 360 i gaurantee.

all we can go by is which was rated beter in 07 which was on the Wii......So your gaurantee right now means nothing 

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[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Madden 2008. Best on Wii. tree-branch

best on 360 i gaurantee.

That .3 difference really went to sheep's heads eh? Statistically speaking thats barely any difference at all.

 

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[QUOTE="tree-branch"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Madden 2008. Best on Wii. Bread_or_Decide

best on 360 i gaurantee.

That .3 difference really went to sheep's heads eh? Statistically speaking thats barely any difference at all.

 

There is a .1 from Zelda becoming a AAA game but many Nintendo fans get owned on it all the time....SO to answer your question yes....Plus one other factor the Wii verison was lower because no online well the other ones had online and it still rated higher 

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I never made any claims that Maddenon Wii would make you tired.
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="tree-branch"]

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]Madden 2008. Best on Wii. HarlockJC

best on 360 i gaurantee.

That .3 difference really went to sheep's heads eh? Statistically speaking thats barely any difference at all.

 

There is a .1 from Zelda becoming a AAA game but many Nintendo fans get owned on it all the time....SO to answer your question yes....Plus one other factor the Wii verison was lower because no online well the other ones had online and it still rated higher 

Theirs a huge difference between a 9 and an 8. A .1 difference gets fanboys all in a tizzy, to the rest of humanity it means nothing.  A .3 difference doesn't mean anything outside of system wars, and I'll glady give up a .3 score difference for better graphics any day. Now if the score was one whole point higher we'd be talking but sheep are trying to use .3 as some proof of superiority? Thats just downright silly. If you were a scientist and your results showed a .3 effective rate...you'd have a result that means nothing. Thats what .3 is...its nothing. Plus according to gamerankings the PS2 version is the far superior version of the game. That was without motion controls btw, that shows a 3% difference....but again...that also means nothing.

In other words, the Wii version is not significantly better and the PS2 version is just as good if not better in some circles.

 

 

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Theirs a huge difference between a 9 and an 8. A .1 difference gets fanboys all in a tizzy, to the rest of humanity it means nothing. A .3 difference doesn't mean anything outside of system wars, and I'll glady give up a .3 score difference for better graphics any day. Now if the score was one whole point higher we'd be talking but sheep are trying to use .3 as some proof of superiority? Thats just downright silly. If you were a scientist and your results showed a .3 effective rate...you'd have a result that means nothing. Thats what .3 is...its nothing. Plus according to gamerankings the PS2 version is the far superior version of the game. That was without motion controls btw, that shows a 3% difference....but again...that also means nothing.

In other words, the Wii version is not significantly better and the PS2 version is just as good if not better in some circles.

 

 

Bread_or_Decide

First there is a .5 beween the Wii and the 360 not a .3. Which if you read it they say that the 7.9 on the 360 is good well the 8.4 on the Wii is great. The only reason Nintendo fans even use Madden is because of how new the Wii is there are very little games to compare the Wii and the 360. The only other major game you could do that on it Spider-man 3 at which point the 360 does beat out the Wii but it matters little because they both suck. I did not start out trying to compare the two, all I wanted to do was let fans know what was going to be on the Madden's Wii verison.

I don't even like football games and do not own any Madden games. Even thought with how much fun Madden sounds on the Wii with the motion, I may at least rent it this year. 

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Everyone knows Madden 08 will murder the other versions . But I think many have their eyes on All Pro 2k (whatever its called). I dont seem to be all that interested due to only past playable players. But then again, its not for Wii so...
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NCAA Footbal is better than Madden and it's not going to be on Wii.
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Damage Control for the cows and lemmings.hyruledweller

Well zelda TP for the GC got higher score then zelda TP on the wii. I guess with your logic thats proves that the gamepad is

way more superior then the wii-mote when it comes to adventure games.