Will 360 follow the Dreamcast and 3DO path ?

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#1 Foxhound_spy
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1. Well since January 2008 the only 360 AAA is Gears 2 and it got lower score than the first one .......

2. Plus one by one 360 receive flop title ( Halo Wars:lol:.......... Too Human:lol::lol::lol: )

3. And it seems MS already knew about how terrible their hardware is but still have the guts to release this faulty console about a year early to compete with Sony & Nintendo........... Desperate much ?

4. They still don`t want to support Blu-ray after suppporting a dead format ( HDDVD ).......

5. In a desperate act to compete with 2 gaming giants they pay 3rd party dev for exclusive game, exclusive dlc, timed exclusive and making exclusive game to be multiplat but seems it still not working ................

6. They have a weak first party game. Even their internal dev decide to part away for them.............

My fellow SW users it seems pretty clear now 360 follow the path of Dreamcast and 3DO ?

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#2 thegoldenpoo
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The 360 still has the strongest overall line-up of games. Its also in second place. The ps3 is more like the Dreamcast or 3DO (well in the way that a turtle is more like Eddie Vedder than a breeze block., that is, not much)
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#3 Dante2710
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sure is, i can already see my 360 burying itself in my backyard
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#4 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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1. Because the market is ruled by GS scores, right? (Right answer: Nope) 2. Yeah, because the 360 is the only console that has had flops... (No again) 3. Yeah, desperation... (Basic economics FTW) 4. Because Blue-Ray is a MUST-HAVE, right? (Nope again). 5. Further Basic Economics FTW. 6. The lack of first party games is irrelevant when it has -by the critic- the best overall line-up of the consoles. So no, I can't see why the 360, with its strong library, good hardware and software sales and being profitable would follow the path of the Dreamcast or the 3DO.
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1. Well since January 2008 the only 360 AAA is Gears 2 and it got lower score than the first one .......

2. Plus one by one 360 receive flop title ( Halo Wars:lol:.......... Too Human:lol::lol::lol: )

3. And it seems MS already knew about how terrible their hardware is but still have the guts to release this faulty console about a year early to compete with Sony & Nintendo........... Desperate much ?

4. They still don`t want to support Blu-ray after suppporting a dead format ( HDDVD ).......

5. In a desperate act to compete with 2 gaming giants they pay 3rd party dev for exclusive game, exclusive dlc, timed exclusive and making exclusive game to be multiplat but seems it still not working ................

6. They have a weak first party game. Even their internal dev decide to part away for them.............

My fellow SW users it seems pretty clear now 360 follow the path of Dreamcast and 3DO ?

Foxhound_spy
First off, Dreamcast had a AAAAE in Soul Calibur but that didn't save it from failing. Secondly, all systems have flop titles. Can you say Lair and Haze for the ps3. Thirdly, there is nothing wrong with jumping out of the gate early. Sony released with the ps2 before microsoft's xbox and nintendo's gamecube last generation and they even had faulty hardware with the ps2 but look how that sold. This deep in the current generation, there is no reason to support blu-ray right now. They aren't supporting HD-DVD either. You also act like sony never paid for exclusives well they paid for alot last generation. Their first party devs didn't leave, they were laid off because of the economy. The only one that left was bungie because they wanted to be more independent but any halo game they want to make will be exclusive to 360 because microsoft owns the rights to Halo.
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#6 Foxhound_spy
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Well I make this thread because before this I saw similar thread. But it`s about PS3 ................
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#7 shutdown_202
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Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the 360 have more AAAE, AAE and has sold more than the PS3? Im starting to remember why i didn't like cows in 2005. Since it seems lemmings are in the minority again here, im switching back to a lemming.
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#8 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Well I make this thread because before this I saw similar thread. But it`s about PS3 ................Foxhound_spy
If you wanted to answer a thread, why didn't you do it IN THAT THREAD? :?
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Well I make this thread because before this I saw similar thread. But it`s about PS3 ................Foxhound_spy
So, you wanted to start a fad?
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#10 Floppy_Jim
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1- Doesn't matter outside of SW. 2- ^Same 3- It's kinda worked, they're still 2nd. 4- And.....? 5- How is it "not working"? 6- At least you made 1 good point. I don't think the Dreamcast & 3DO came close to 30 million sold.
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#11 OpticalCanine
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"2. Plus one by one 360 receive flop title"

Ohhh the irony of this statement oozing out of a PS3 fans mouth. no matter how many games ps3 releases this year, itll never catch up to the ammount of quality games on the 360. go play killzone or drake on your HDVCR3 .

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#12 PAL360
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Do you think making this thread will change anything? lol

FACTS:

360 is outselling PS3 almost everywhere

The 8 million gap is getting bigger, not smaller

360 has 2 times more games

360 still has far more AE, AAE and AAAE games

360 has the better versions of all multiplats

360 costs half the PS3 price

OPINIONS:

360 has the better controller

it has the vetter online (quality online VS free online)

Well, the only thing saving the PS3 from the 3DO, CDI, and others destiny is its brand name....

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#13 Iwmyk
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No, as always micrsoft prevails through handing out truckloads of cash to the right people. It doesn't matter if they made an operative system thats crap or a console that brakes if you as much as sneeze in its direction. They are great at comepting. It's to bad they can't bring more original content like nintendo doesinstead of buying up 3rd party games.
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It's already passed that fork in the road.
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No, as always micrsoft prevails through handing out truckloads of cash to the right people. It doesn't matter if they made an operative system thats crap or a console that brakes if you as much as sneeze in its direction. They are great at comepting. It's to bad they can't bring more original content like nintendo doesinstead of buying up 3rd party games.Iwmyk
MS buying Nintendo am confirmed?
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#16 R_MAHIL
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i seriously think you need to take another look at the game line-ups for both consoles. exclusives like halo, gears, pgr, forza, crackdown, gta dlc, vf online, l4d, etc. etc. plus all the ones that came out before the ps3 came out.
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#17 clone01
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nope...as long as the 360 shares some killer titles with the PC (left 4 dead, alan wake, etc) that aren't available on the PS3, the 360 will do fine.
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#18 The_Game21x
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The Xbox 360 still has the strongest and most varied line up of games, is still outselling the PS3 every month and is showing no signs of slowing down.

No, I do not think the 360 is going to follow the Dreamcast/3DO path. It's approaching 30 million in total worldwide sales and is profitable, thereby making it more of a success than the Dreamcast and 3DO combined.

Seriously...are we still comparing the 360 to the Dreamcast? That kind of talk should've died back in 2006. :|

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#19 mesc420
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No. Xbox 360 is way more popular, and obviously better then those 2 systems IMO.
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#20 johnnyblazed88
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No. Xbox 360 is way more popular, and obviously better then those 2 systems IMO.mesc420

yea 360 basically stole america from sony this gen almost all my friends and the people i know play on 360

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#21 deactivated-594be627b82ba
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even the ps3 won't finish like dreamcast or the 3DO, I personnaly don't like the 360 but ur comments makes no sense at all, I'm a playstation guy but but being a fanboy is just useless
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#22 yoyo462001
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wait doesnt the 360 easily outsell the PS3 month on month? i yeah i thought so.
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#23 BioShockOwnz
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Are you still upset your console of preference is in last place, TC? :lol: If anything, with its current spot in the console race, and also the economic conditions and the price, the PS3 is the one that has a more likely chance of becoming the next Dreamcast or 3DO. Cows better hope Obama brings back this economy or they'll continue to eat humble pie daily.
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#24 YearoftheSnake5
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Do some research into the Dreamcast and 3DO. If the 360 were following them, it would have died out a long time ago.
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#25 foxhound_fox
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Considering the 360 has already been out for nearly four years and has the most highly rated games out of all three consoles, I'd be more inclined to think the PS3 will go the way of the 3DO... and no console can go the way of the Dreamcast. It might have been short lived but it had more quality games in those couple years than most consoles get in a 5-6 year lifetime.
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#26 iam2green
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1. review are based on purchases?

2. ps3 and wii both get bad games that people hype.

3. microsoft is rich from windows and zune. they just wanted to release it early.

4. blue ray isn't needed HD DVDs could have won. DVDs are still coming out and are cheaper then blue ray.

5. good, they want companys to make things for their system. every company has a pay if they want something to stay exclusive.

6. wii says hi with the weak line up. i don't think it is that bad.

the 360 is in second place. if it did end up like the dream cast i think it would have died by now. there are still games coming out for it. players of the wii enjoy bad games. they only bought it for the controller.
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#27 ocinom
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This thread fails
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Considering how M$ probably has a money printer in their headquarters somewhere, and how many brainwashed 8 year olds buy 360's because their friends do, no.
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Considering how M$ probably has a money printer in their headquarters somewhere, and how many brainwashed 8 year olds buy 360's because their friends do, no. GodofBigMacs
So have I been brainwashed then since my friend said get one?
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#30 clembo1990
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Let's hope so, Dreamcast was awesome while it lasted.
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#31 GTR_FX
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none of the current gen system even come close to what happened to the 3do.

the dreamcast on the other hand was one of the best systems ever made, it would have survived if sega had lots moneys like sony or M$.

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#32 cycle09
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with killzone 2 I would say the 360 needs to pull out more games to compete
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1. Well since January 2008 the only 360 AAA is Gears 2 and it got lower score than the first one .......

2. Plus one by one 360 receive flop title ( Halo Wars:lol:.......... Too Human:lol::lol::lol: )

3. And it seems MS already knew about how terrible their hardware is but still have the guts to release this faulty console about a year early to compete with Sony & Nintendo........... Desperate much ?

4. They still don`t want to support Blu-ray after suppporting a dead format ( HDDVD ).......

5. In a desperate act to compete with 2 gaming giants they pay 3rd party dev for exclusive game, exclusive dlc, timed exclusive and making exclusive game to be multiplat but seems it still not working ................

6. They have a weak first party game. Even their internal dev decide to part away for them.............

My fellow SW users it seems pretty clear now 360 follow the path of Dreamcast and 3DO ?

Foxhound_spy

Considering the worst games i played this generation are the 10/10 scoring ones (Gears 2, MGS4, LBP etc), i have to say nearly all my quality gaming time goes to 360, with the real deep and huge RPG's, nothing compares for me

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#34 insomnia37
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It looks like it!

After 3 years and now potentially the cheapest console to own, 1 year head start above the rest, more games and it's not even at 30 million sales. LMAO

My favourite arguement is that most PS2 owners have switched to the 360 LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! 120 million+ PS2's sold WW and 28 million 360!LOL Thats not eve half!

If the rumours of a price drop for the PS3 are true we will see a distinct rise in PS3 sales. But I guess we all have to wait and see which one is the 3d0 or dreamcast of this gen. I say its the xbox. M$ needs to stick to improving windows.

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Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the 360 have more AAAE, AAE and has sold more than the PS3? Im starting to remember why i didn't like cows in 2005. Since it seems lemmings are in the minority again here, im switching back to a lemming.shutdown_202
lol that was pretty random, though i have an idea, instead of switching between fanboy factions why not just be a gamer, who PLAYS ALL GAMES, because in the end gamers are the real winners.
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No. You've answerd yourself. #3) They have guts. #5) They have enough money to pay. Both are legitimate reasons why to stay in ANY industry.
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with killzone 2 I would say the 360 needs to pull out more games to competecycle09

360 already has many games that surpass that 9.0. Gamespot scores only matter here, sorry.

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#38 pwnage324
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[QUOTE="obamanian"][QUOTE="Foxhound_spy"]

1. Well since January 2008 the only 360 AAA is Gears 2 and it got lower score than the first one .......

2. Plus one by one 360 receive flop title ( Halo Wars:lol:.......... Too Human:lol::lol::lol: )

3. And it seems MS already knew about how terrible their hardware is but still have the guts to release this faulty console about a year early to compete with Sony & Nintendo........... Desperate much ?

4. They still don`t want to support Blu-ray after suppporting a dead format ( HDDVD ).......

5. In a desperate act to compete with 2 gaming giants they pay 3rd party dev for exclusive game, exclusive dlc, timed exclusive and making exclusive game to be multiplat but seems it still not working ................

6. They have a weak first party game. Even their internal dev decide to part away for them.............

My fellow SW users it seems pretty clear now 360 follow the path of Dreamcast and 3DO ?

Considering the worst games i played this generation are the 10/10 scoring ones (Gears 2, MGS4, LBP etc), i have to say nearly all my quality gaming time goes to 360, with the real deep and huge RPG's, nothing compares for me

wow your still at gamespot?!? btw thanks for all the anti killzone 2 threads, you just made the ownage more sweet, that aside, do you hate gaming? lol how can you hate good games like gears 2, mgs4, and lbp? games like those make this gen.
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1. Well since January 2008 the only 360 AAA is Gears 2 and it got lower score than the first one .......

2. Plus one by one 360 receive flop title ( Halo Wars:lol:.......... Too Human:lol::lol::lol: )

3. And it seems MS already knew about how terrible their hardware is but still have the guts to release this faulty console about a year early to compete with Sony & Nintendo........... Desperate much ?

4. They still don`t want to support Blu-ray after suppporting a dead format ( HDDVD ).......

5. In a desperate act to compete with 2 gaming giants they pay 3rd party dev for exclusive game, exclusive dlc, timed exclusive and making exclusive game to be multiplat but seems it still not working ................

6. They have a weak first party game. Even their internal dev decide to part away for them.............

My fellow SW users it seems pretty clear now 360 follow the path of Dreamcast and 3DO ?

Foxhound_spy
This is one of the worst troll attempts I've seen. 1. True, but it's had plenty of AAA games in the past, and the PS3 has gone through much longer periods with no notable games. 2. Saying that Halo Wars and Too Human flopped is like saying that Haze flopped, they were only ever hyped by fanboys. 3. This problem has been around since the system launched and it never hurt sales. Since then the hardware has become more reliable so I have no idea how this could kill the system now. 4. If we were talking about DVD players instead of gaming consoles... 5. This is not a new tactic, the PS2 paid for timed exclusives, and because the 360 is selling more than the ps3 in terms of hardware and software I'd say it is working. 6. The first part is subjective, and the second part is irrelevant because Bunjie is still only developing for the 360.
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#40 navyguy21
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Simple answer- Xbox 360- Making money every month, every quarter, every year, software sells very well, hardware sells very well, more advertising, lead platform 90%, best bet for 3rd parties (very important) PS3 - Losing money every month, every quarter, every year, low software sales (with a few exceptions) very little advertsing, hard to program for, cost more to develop for. Id say sony is making a very good case that they want to be the next Dreamcast, or whatever failure you want to compare anything to. Now dont get me wrong, i LOVE my ps3, but TC, and other fanboys need to wake up!! geez
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#41 pwnage324
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[QUOTE="cycle09"]with killzone 2 I would say the 360 needs to pull out more games to competeBioShockOwnz

360 already has many games that surpass that 9.0. Gamespot scores only matter here, sorry.

by that logic 1 AAAAE = like 5 AAAE :P:P:P
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#42 shoeman12
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yes, i'm sure that even though it's in second, it will suddenly stop selling.
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REDWOOD CITY, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 14, 1994--3DO hardware systems and software are sweeping awards and winning accolades from industry experts, retailers, and consumers this holiday season. Recent honors include "Best System of 1994" from Die Hard Game Fan magazine and best overall game system from The Los Angeles Daily News (Dec. 11, 1994). The 3DO system was also recommended as the game system to buy for the holidays by the Miami Herald (Dec. 2, 1994). In its January 1995 issue, Die Hard Game Fan also selected six different 3DO titles as "Megaward" winners in several "Game of the Year" categories for 1994. 3DO software titles have also reaped numerous awards and praise this year from publications including Popular Science, Sports Illustrated, VideoGames, Computer Player, NEXT Generation, GamePro, and Game Players magazines.

The product's high price retail price of $699 contained an element of risk. The CD-ROM drives necessary for 32-bit players cost more than cartridges, but the game required a base of users to compete with established video game console manufacturers. Like VCRs and PCs, which initially sold at high prices, Hawkins expected the price of the 3DO console to drop within two years. Hawkins hoped the 3DO system would become a common household appliance as a "multiplayer" capable of playing standard audio CDs, Kodak's CD-based electronic photo albums, and, in the future, motion pictures, referred to as Full Motion Video (FMV).

http://www.answers.com/topic/the-3do-company

Will the 360 go the way of the 3DO? LOLOLOLOLOLOLO(LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL>)

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[QUOTE="obamanian"]Considering the worst games i played this generation are the 10/10 scoring ones (Gears 2, MGS4, LBP etc), i have to say nearly all my quality gaming time goes to 360, with the real deep and huge RPG's, nothing compares for me pwnage324
wow your still at gamespot?!? btw thanks for all the anti killzone 2 threads, you just made the ownage more sweet, that aside, do you hate gaming? lol how can you hate good games like gears 2, mgs4, and lbp? games like those make this gen.

I hate gaming, because i hate linear boring last gen designed games like MGS4, Killzone 2 and Gears 2 ?

Those for me, are the worst and most boring and overhyped/overscored games this generation

But then again, i am mainly a RPG gamer, so why did you expect me to love linear shooting and shallow things like that in the first place ?

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#45 blue900
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Nah I wouldn't say dreamcast or 3do. It held its own but will it be obselete sooner than PS3? Probably not as far as user base. As games start to get more complex and the market and support higher end games, maybe. Killzone 2 already showed power that I have not seen on 360 but that is my opinion. MGS4 is debatable here if it is better than gears graphics wise. Uncharted is debatable here too. In the end we will have to see if PS3's killszone and other exclusives will sell units to catch up to or suprass 360. I believe 360 has 27 million systems sold and ps3 about 17. We will just have to see.

I love my ps3 and didn't like much of 360 before but as time went by you can't deny the library IF you like pc/western games. I think 360 really thrived after wester/pc games became the norm and japanese developers took a back seat. The original xbox opened that pc door to consoles so there are many different variables.

In the end I believe 360 will last 2 years more at the very least and that is long enough to be considered an established system. PS3 has the potential to move further but maybe by the time ps3 hits its true potential, Microsoft, nintendo etc might enter w/a new system. Who knows but we are now seeing the power of the ps3 which most 360 owners considered a myth that ps3 was more powerful. It seems more powerful for sure, but that doesn't win a console war. We saw that last gen when ps2 killed xbox and we all know which was more powerful.

Again i like that there is great competition. More choices for the consumer as a whole.

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#46 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="cycle09"]with killzone 2 I would say the 360 needs to pull out more games to competeBioShockOwnz

360 already has many games that surpass that 9.0. Gamespot scores only matter here, sorry.

Many... you mean to say 9 games surpass the 9.0 mark; six of them are multiplat. So buy this. 360 was lucky* enough to get their system out before GS changed their scoreing system to incriments of .5. Forza2 and GRAW are at 9.2. Lucky.
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#47 pwnage324
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[QUOTE="pwnage324"][QUOTE="obamanian"]Considering the worst games i played this generation are the 10/10 scoring ones (Gears 2, MGS4, LBP etc), i have to say nearly all my quality gaming time goes to 360, with the real deep and huge RPG's, nothing compares for me obamanian

wow your still at gamespot?!? btw thanks for all the anti killzone 2 threads, you just made the ownage more sweet, that aside, do you hate gaming? lol how can you hate good games like gears 2, mgs4, and lbp? games like those make this gen.

I hate gaming, because i hate linear boring last gen designed games like MGS4, Killzone 2 and Gears 2 ?

Those for me, are the worst and most boring and overhyped/overscored games this generation

But then again, i am mainly a RPG gamer, so why did you expect me to love linear shooting and shallow things like that in the first place ?

seems fair i guess, though id think something liek MGS4 would be a little more up your alley, considering its kinda RPGish, but alright
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#48 blue900
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MGS 4 is far from shallow. FPS is in relation to rpgs so i know how you feel. But let's face it, the masses doesn't buy things for depth sigh. Even I fell prey to the shallow fps when I am w my wife. It is just uncomplicated fun. but if i was to play on my own, give me one w/ a story any day. Killzone 2 so far is awesome but the story is meh compared to my prefered rpg games. So i feel ya, but the market as a whole is not looking for art or depth.
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#49 shutdown_202
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[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]Correct me if im wrong but doesnt the 360 have more AAAE, AAE and has sold more than the PS3? Im starting to remember why i didn't like cows in 2005. Since it seems lemmings are in the minority again here, im switching back to a lemming.pwnage324
lol that was pretty random, though i have an idea, instead of switching between fanboy factions why not just be a gamer, who PLAYS ALL GAMES, because in the end gamers are the real winners.

Of course thats what i do. I buy any game that interests me regardless of what platform it comes out on. However, on system wars, i mostly defend the console that recieves the most bashing or needs more support. i've gone from sheep, lemming, cow/sheep and now im more lemming. Its all just a bit of fun but like i said in real life i play all games that interest me (including PC games).

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#50 tikki25x
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wheres the TC?