Will AMD beat Intel with Ryzen ?

@Yams1980:

Your overclocked cpu's dont count. Clock per clock it looks like its on par with Haswell/Broadwell, according to R15 Benchs.

While performance may not seem outstanding from an intel 4th gen+ point of view. the amount of cores for the price that is killer being able to grab a 6c/12t cpu for $260 when intel route your looking at $500+ for same performance.

Stock i7-4770K has 3.5 Ghz base and 3.9 Ghz turbo. From http://www.anandtech.com/show/8316/amds-5-ghz-turbo-cpu-in-retail-the-fx9590-and-asrock-990fx-extreme9-review/6

http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-full-lineup-pricing-clock-speeds-leaked/

AMD Ryzen 7 1700X has 3.4 GHz base and 3.8 GHz Turbo.

AMD Ryzen 5 1400X has 3.5 GHz base and 3.9 GHz Turbo with $199 USD price tag. This SKU is like stock i7-4770K.

Ryzen R7-1700X is faster than Piledriver FX-9590 at 4.7 Ghz

i7-6700K has 4 Ghz base and 4.2 Ghz turbo.

doesn't smell like Bulldozer at all. Bulldozer was actually a step down from K10 in IPC. Probably because AMD was betting on quicker multithreaded adoption and payed a huge price since it took ~4-5 years before that really started to ramp up.

and matching a 3-4 year old CPU isn't that bad considering Intel has done next to nothing since Haswell anyways. The only real upgrades were chipset features, DDR4 mainly. Ryzen has all of that anyways, so nonissue.

Looking at game benches there's nothing remotely dramatic between Haswell and Kaby Lake.

There's also this thing called price:performance.

All i3s, i5s and the 6c/12t + 8c/16t i7s are pretty much guaranteed to get dumpstered in price:performance.

4c8t i7s will be on deathwatch if the 4c/8t SR5? can hit 4.5 without too much of a sweat. Wraith Cooler + IHS solder leaves Ryzen smelling an awful lot like a reborn Sandy Bridge.

@HavocV3:

From https://techreport.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=85582 ... that's year 2012...

AMD's Bulldozer chief architect (Mike Butler) was fired/let go/jump ship.

Mike Butler is now working with Samsung.

From AMD bridges road to ARM with new low-power x86 server chips | PCWorld

Feldman candidly acknowledged that the Bulldozer failure cost AMD some credibility in servers. But the company is looking to rebound with a revamped management team led by CEO Rory Read and a new server roadmap comprising x86 and ARM chips for multiple server categories.

Bulldozer was without doubt an unmitigated failure. We know it, Feldman said.

It cost the CEO his job, it cost most of the management team its job, it cost the vice president of engineering his job. You have a new team. We are crystal clear that that sort of failure is unacceptable, Feldman said.