Will any genre EVER challenge the Sports Genre in sales?

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#1 True_Gamer_
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Wii Sports/FIFA/PES/Madden/NBA2k....all simply top charts for weeks every year....No game genre can touch them....Even the insanely marketed FPS genre cannot reach the monstrus sales of the sports genre....

Will this ever change? I mean which level of quality or marketing brainwash must a genre reach to even scrape the sales numbers that the sports genre pushes?

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Music games had the potential to maybe make as much revenue, but I think Activision is souring everyone on the music genre. Simply put, no, I don't think so. There are too many sports titles, they are all annual releases, and a lot of them sell like crazy (Madden.) If someone figures out how to make annual releases of FPS' they might have a shot, but I don't think anyone can match the sheer volume of sports titles.
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Wii Sports/FIFA/PES/Madden/NBA2k....all simply top charts for weeks every year....No game genre can touch them....Even the insanely marketed FPS genre cannot reach the monstrus sales of the sports genre....

Will this ever change? I mean which level of quality or marketing brainwash must a genre reach to even scrape the sales numbers that the sports genre pushes?

True_Gamer_

Wii Sports is bundled.

Modern Warfare 2 will sell more than all sports games put together this holiday, and then some.

You've got your answer.

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Realistically, isn't Wii sports the only title of sports that sells like 15-20 million? Madden and others sell like 5-10 million at best on many consoles right?

So if Halo sells 10 million on one platform, Mario Kart sells 15 million on one platform, COD4 sells 10-15million on three, GTAIV 10-15 million on three, Gears 5-7 million on one and two platforms, wouldn't you say shooters do outsell sports games not made by Nintendo?

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Realistically, isn't Wii sports the only title of sports that sells like 15-20 million? Madden and others sell like 5-10 million at best on many consoles right?

So if Halo sells 10 million on one platform, Mario Kart sells 15 million on one platform, COD4 sells 10-15million on three, GTAIV 10-15 million on three, Gears 5-7 million on one and two platforms, wouldn't you say shooters do outsell sports games not made by Nintendo?

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Lets put FIFA06+FIFA07+FIFA08+FIFA09+FIFA10 also PES6 (Xbox360)+PES2008+PES2009+PES2010 also Madden 07 - Madden 10 plus NBA2k6-NBA2k10 sales toghether.... Now tell me how many sales FPS genre generated?
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Realistically, isn't Wii sports the only title of sports that sells like 15-20 million? Madden and others sell like 5-10 million at best on many consoles right?

So if Halo sells 10 million on one platform, Mario Kart sells 15 million on one platform, COD4 sells 10-15million on three, GTAIV 10-15 million on three, Gears 5-7 million on one and two platforms, wouldn't you say shooters do outsell sports games not made by Nintendo?

darth-pyschosis
You might have a point if there were 20 Mario titles coming out EVERY YEAR. I bet sports games make up like 20% of all released titles since like the PS2 era. Sure Madden may sell 5 million while Halo sells 10, but Madden comes out next year and sells another 5. Then next year another 5. No Halo titles have been released. 15 million to 10 million for Madden. Now pretend there are other sports games out there, like NBA Live, Tiger Woods, NHL, FIFA, Winning 11/PES, Fight Night, tennis games, rugby games, Olympics games, and they are releasing every year, or close to it. I don't even think it's an argument. Like I said, the sheer number of titles produced, and the fact that they come out every single year, makes it a hard genre to compete with.
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#8 Propaganda_
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[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

Realistically, isn't Wii sports the only title of sports that sells like 15-20 million? Madden and others sell like 5-10 million at best on many consoles right?

So if Halo sells 10 million on one platform, Mario Kart sells 15 million on one platform, COD4 sells 10-15million on three, GTAIV 10-15 million on three, Gears 5-7 million on one and two platforms, wouldn't you say shooters do outsell sports games not made by Nintendo?

True_Gamer_

Lets put FIFA06+FIFA07+FIFA08+FIFA09+FIFA10 also PES6 (Xbox360)+PES2008+PES2009+PES2010 also Madden 07 - Madden 10 plus NBA2k6-NBA2k10 sales toghether.... Now tell me how many sales FPS genre generated?

Modern Warfare 2 will sell 14,000,000 this year alone, despite being released in November.

Which sports game can manage to accomplish this?

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Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

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Someone's bitter at all the "jocks" I take it. ;)
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't FPS games sell more than sports games?
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As opposed to all the wannabe special ops who weren't elite enough.
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#12 Couth_
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't FPS games sell more than sports games?xsubtownerx
They do
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Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

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Is that why professional athletes play sports games too?
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Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

majadamus
Did some jock steal your lunch money for wearing a WoW t-shirt or something? I wouldn't say those are the only people who play sports games. Sports games are fun because, for all intents and purposes, they offer the most competitive experience for people playing with friends.
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

Realistically, isn't Wii sports the only title of sports that sells like 15-20 million? Madden and others sell like 5-10 million at best on many consoles right?

So if Halo sells 10 million on one platform, Mario Kart sells 15 million on one platform, COD4 sells 10-15million on three, GTAIV 10-15 million on three, Gears 5-7 million on one and two platforms, wouldn't you say shooters do outsell sports games not made by Nintendo?

Propaganda_

Lets put FIFA06+FIFA07+FIFA08+FIFA09+FIFA10 also PES6 (Xbox360)+PES2008+PES2009+PES2010 also Madden 07 - Madden 10 plus NBA2k6-NBA2k10 sales toghether.... Now tell me how many sales FPS genre generated?

Modern Warfare 2 will sell 14,000,000 this year alone, despite being released in November.

Which sports game can manage to accomplish this?

That is insane
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If only their sales matched their quality.

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well Sports are more for "casual" gamers and there are more of these people so yes in terms of "casual" gamers i dont think the other genres will topple it
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[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] Lets put FIFA06+FIFA07+FIFA08+FIFA09+FIFA10 also PES6 (Xbox360)+PES2008+PES2009+PES2010 also Madden 07 - Madden 10 plus NBA2k6-NBA2k10 sales toghether.... Now tell me how many sales FPS genre generated?Kenbo325

Modern Warfare 2 will sell 14,000,000 this year alone, despite being released in November.

Which sports game can manage to accomplish this?

That is insane

seriously even lunatics and serials killers have boundries.

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[QUOTE="Kenbo325"][QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

Modern Warfare 2 will sell 14,000,000 this year alone, despite being released in November.

Which sports game can manage to accomplish this?

SionPT

That is insane

seriously even lunatics and serials killers have boundaries.

Not COD. cause i believe this is entirely possible after the first was so successful.

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#20 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]

Realistically, isn't Wii sports the only title of sports that sells like 15-20 million? Madden and others sell like 5-10 million at best on many consoles right?

So if Halo sells 10 million on one platform, Mario Kart sells 15 million on one platform, COD4 sells 10-15million on three, GTAIV 10-15 million on three, Gears 5-7 million on one and two platforms, wouldn't you say shooters do outsell sports games not made by Nintendo?

Propaganda_

Lets put FIFA06+FIFA07+FIFA08+FIFA09+FIFA10 also PES6 (Xbox360)+PES2008+PES2009+PES2010 also Madden 07 - Madden 10 plus NBA2k6-NBA2k10 sales toghether.... Now tell me how many sales FPS genre generated?

Modern Warfare 2 will sell 14,000,000 this year alone, despite being released in November.

Which sports game can manage to accomplish this?

14mil? :lol: FIFA games have sold 4 times that....and thats only one series of a genre...oh I see you dont know what the word GENRE means....
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[QUOTE="majadamus"]

Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

Jared2720

Did some jock steal your lunch money for wearing a WoW t-shirt or something? I wouldn't say those are the only people who play sports games. Sports games are fun because, for all intents and purposes, they offer the most competitive experience for people playing with friends.

I got a few responses, but since they're very similiar (read every post before responding, guys) I'll just respond to the most recent one. Have I struck a nerve with some of you guys? Did my post tell somewhat of the truth? I know not making the team for a sports team could be huge downer for some of you, but get over it. You still got your sports games to tide you over your shortcomings. :P

To answer some of your questions. No, I wasn't picked on by jocks. I spent a lot of time in the gym in high school with some of those jocks. Why do you guys keep buying the same games over and over again every year. They make small updates to these games.

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Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

majadamus
If you really think that, then I feel sorry for you.
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the COD series seems to come out every year...fps>sports games

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[QUOTE="majadamus"]

Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

mo0ksi

If you really think that, then I feel sorry for you.

Face it. It's for a lot of people who aren't really good at sports. It's like for us, who can't go out slay monsters with swords so we play something like Fable or Final Fantasy. If I wanted to play something related to sports, I'd either go outside or go to the gym when it gets to cold out.

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i dont know, but i would think that the 'shooter' genre outsells the sports genre. it would take alot of research though to prove it... i would much rather play videogames instead

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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="majadamus"]

Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

majadamus

If you really think that, then I feel sorry for you.

Face it. It's for a lot of people who aren't really good at sports. It's like for us, who can't go out slay monsters with swords so we play something like Fable or Final Fantasy. If I wanted to play something related to sports, I'd either go outside or go to the gym when it gets to cold out.

hm... i dont agree with your logic.

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Not until sports stop being the greatest thing ever.
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[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] Lets put FIFA06+FIFA07+FIFA08+FIFA09+FIFA10 also PES6 (Xbox360)+PES2008+PES2009+PES2010 also Madden 07 - Madden 10 plus NBA2k6-NBA2k10 sales toghether.... Now tell me how many sales FPS genre generated?True_Gamer_

Modern Warfare 2 will sell 14,000,000 this year alone, despite being released in November.

Which sports game can manage to accomplish this?

14mil? :lol: FIFA games have sold 4 times that....and thats only one series of a genre...oh I see you dont know what the word GENRE means....

He said GAME not GENRE, which upcoming or current sports game can say they will do that this gen, not a total of years and years of sales. If one game alone can beat an entire genre well then **** that is one impressive game.

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[QUOTE="Propaganda_"]

[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"] Lets put FIFA06+FIFA07+FIFA08+FIFA09+FIFA10 also PES6 (Xbox360)+PES2008+PES2009+PES2010 also Madden 07 - Madden 10 plus NBA2k6-NBA2k10 sales toghether.... Now tell me how many sales FPS genre generated?True_Gamer_

Modern Warfare 2 will sell 14,000,000 this year alone, despite being released in November.

Which sports game can manage to accomplish this?

14mil? :lol: FIFA games have sold 4 times that....and thats only one series of a genre...oh I see you dont know what the word GENRE means....

Well if you want to go there, NFS sold 100million, and Gran Turismo is on 50 million. Who wants to tally how much Final Fantasy has sold?
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#31 mo0ksi
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[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="majadamus"]

Sports games are for wannabe NBA/MLB/NFL/NHL players who couldn't make it. It gives them the closest thing to being on one of those teams. So, it's no wonder these games sell.

majadamus

If you really think that, then I feel sorry for you.

Face it. It's for a lot of people who aren't really good at sports. It's like for us, who can't go out slay monsters with swords so we play something like Fable or Final Fantasy. If I wanted to play something related to sports, I'd either go outside or go to the gym when it gets to cold out.

Athletes themselves play these games. Your logic is seriously broken here, because it's like saying the only people who play Rock Band are wannabe musicians.
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Who wants to tally how much Final Fantasy has sold?Couth_

The entire series? Can numbers go that high?

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[QUOTE="majadamus"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"] If you really think that, then I feel sorry for you.mo0ksi

Face it. It's for a lot of people who aren't really good at sports. It's like for us, who can't go out slay monsters with swords so we play something like Fable or Final Fantasy. If I wanted to play something related to sports, I'd either go outside or go to the gym when it gets to cold out.

Athletes themselves play these games. Your logic is seriously broken here, because it's like saying the only people who play Rock Band are wannabe musicians.

actually i like playing rock band because i want to be a rock star.....:|:(:cry: :P:P:P

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Well, if fat kids start to go out and do some actual sports instead playing sports in front of their screens and get even fatter, then maybe.

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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

Wii Sports/FIFA/PES/Madden/NBA2k....all simply top charts for weeks every year....No game genre can touch them....Even the insanely marketed FPS genre cannot reach the monstrus sales of the sports genre....

Will this ever change? I mean which level of quality or marketing brainwash must a genre reach to even scrape the sales numbers that the sports genre pushes?

whats that one genre with halo, cod, kz2, rfom, gears of war. ect ect? oh thats right... shooters. i thought this was a old thread before i ckicked on it. shooters >>>>>> sports games this gen. every one knows that even sony lol
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#36 striking_
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If the FPS genre becomes any more saturated then it might have a chance, look at how much COD sells and it comes out every year.

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#37 Stats_
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Well Sports games tend to be the best, imo so i doubt it :)

The best games always sell well ...

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#38 Stats_
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[QUOTE="majadamus"]

[QUOTE="mo0ksi"] If you really think that, then I feel sorry for you.mo0ksi

Face it. It's for a lot of people who aren't really good at sports. It's like for us, who can't go out slay monsters with swords so we play something like Fable or Final Fantasy. If I wanted to play something related to sports, I'd either go outside or go to the gym when it gets to cold out.

Athletes themselves play these games. Your logic is seriously broken here, because it's like saying the only people who play Rock Band are wannabe musicians.

It's his birthday, let him spout all the nonsense he wants ... just for today.

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[QUOTE="monson21502"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

Wii Sports/FIFA/PES/Madden/NBA2k....all simply top charts for weeks every year....No game genre can touch them....Even the insanely marketed FPS genre cannot reach the monstrus sales of the sports genre....

Will this ever change? I mean which level of quality or marketing brainwash must a genre reach to even scrape the sales numbers that the sports genre pushes?

whats that one genre with halo, cod, kz2, rfom, gears of war. ect ect? oh thats right... shooters. i thought this was a old thread before i ckicked on it. shooters >>>>>> sports games this gen. every one knows that even sony lol

If we assume that 4 of the Sports Genre monsters sell 8mil average per year it makes 100 mil this gen alone...and its guaranteed to grow and hit almost 200mil....shooters cannot fight it admit it.