Will Banjo outscore Ratchet and make another area where 360 is better then PS3?

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#51 to0go0d
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As a die hard R&C fan; its hard for me too say that banjo might still have a fighting chance. Because IMO i think Banjo looks like an overall funner game for all types of gamers, but so is R&C.. so idk lol. :?
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#52 finalfantasy94
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Well first of all the guy who reviewed R&C did a crappy job at it. His reviews was just bad. Hell im pretty sure if banjo had a last gen game this banjo would get the same score as R&C did. In GS anyway. Im pretty sure he would have pooped all over SMG too.

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#53 spidadragon1
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Now first off I think the Wii is the best console for platformers.

Ratchet and Clank scored 7.5 so will Banjo: Nut and Bolts score higher then that? If so it would be another area where 360 is better then PS3 the platformer area. Even though 360 has Kameo that scored 8.7

Just look at the scores of some of the other games that can not be played on the other console. This is 360vs PS3. Only put games that have scores. This is how the other areas of gaming stack up-

Shooter- Halo 3 (9.5) Gears 1 (9.6) > RFoM (8.6) Haze (6.0) (360 wins)

Racers- Forza 2 (9.2) PGR4 (8.5) > Motorstorm (7.9) GT5P (7.5) (360 wins)

RTS- CnC3: Tib wars (8.7)> PS3 does not have any (360 wins)

JRPG-Lost ODyssey (7.5) > ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have already (360 wins)

WRPG-Mass Effect (8.5)> ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have (360 wins)

Fighting- DOA 4 (8.8 ) > Tekken 5 (8.3) (360 wins)

Stealth-360 does not have any that the ps3 does not already have that I could think of < MGS4 (10.0)

(PS3 wins)

So if Banjo scores higher then there will be no doubt at all the 360 has the better platformer games over the PS3. So do you think Banjo will score higher then Ratchet?

Edit-Forgot about LBP to late to add to the poll.So if you think LBP will be the best just post that you think it will score better.

rybe1025

What you just did is select single games that score better than the other and saying the system wins that genre because of one game thats better than another game.

I could say Resistance: (8.6)> Fear Files: (7.0)= PS3 Wins FPS Genre

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#54 RacoonusDoodus
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hmmm, I can't tell if you're trying to ask a serious question or you're just trying to make yourself feel better.

hmm, I can't tell...

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#55 DanteSuikoden
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Shouldn't it go up against littlebigplanet?
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#56 Chutebox
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hmmm, I can't tell if you're trying to ask a serious question or you're just trying to make yourself feel better.

hmm, I can't tell...

RacoonusDoodus

The latter...

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#57 spliffstar12
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

Now first off I think the Wii is the best console for platformers.

Ratchet and Clank scored 7.5 so will Banjo: Nut and Bolts score higher then that? If so it would be another area where 360 is better then PS3 the platformer area. Even though 360 has Kameo that scored 8.7

Just look at the scores of some of the other games that can not be played on the other console. This is 360vs PS3. Only put games that have scores. This is how the other areas of gaming stack up-

Shooter- Halo 3 (9.5) Gears 1 (9.6) > RFoM (8.6) Haze (6.0) (360 wins)

Racers- Forza 2 (9.2) PGR4 (8.5) > Motorstorm (7.9) GT5P (7.5) (360 wins)

RTS- CnC3: Tib wars (8.7)> PS3 does not have any (360 wins)

JRPG-Lost ODyssey (7.5) > ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have already (360 wins)

WRPG-Mass Effect (8.5)> ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have (360 wins)

Fighting- DOA 4 (8.8 ) > Tekken 5 (8.3) (360 wins)

Stealth-360 does not have any that the ps3 does not already have that I could think of < MGS4 (10.0)

(PS3 wins)

So if Banjo scores higher then there will be no doubt at all the 360 has the better platformer games over the PS3. So do you think Banjo will score higher then Ratchet?

Edit-Forgot about LBP to late to add to the poll.So if you think LBP will be the best just post that you think it will score better.

spidadragon1

What you just did is select single games that score better than the other and saying the system wins that genre because of one game thats better than another game.

I could say Resistance: (8.6)> Fear Files: (7.0)= PS3 Wins FPS Genre

he picked highest scoring exclusives on each platform

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#58 Itinerant_Voice
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What if R & C: Quest for Booty gets a better review than both of them?
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#59 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

Now first off I think the Wii is the best console for platformers.

Ratchet and Clank scored 7.5 so will Banjo: Nut and Bolts score higher then that? If so it would be another area where 360 is better then PS3 the platformer area. Even though 360 has Kameo that scored 8.7

Just look at the scores of some of the other games that can not be played on the other console. This is 360vs PS3. Only put games that have scores. This is how the other areas of gaming stack up-

Shooter- Halo 3 (9.5) Gears 1 (9.6) > RFoM (8.6) Haze (6.0) (360 wins)

Racers- Forza 2 (9.2) PGR4 (8.5) > Motorstorm (7.9) GT5P (7.5) (360 wins)

RTS- CnC3: Tib wars (8.7)> PS3 does not have any (360 wins)

JRPG-Lost ODyssey (7.5) > ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have already (360 wins)

WRPG-Mass Effect (8.5)> ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have (360 wins)

Fighting- DOA 4 (8.8 ) > Tekken 5 (8.3) (360 wins)

Stealth-360 does not have any that the ps3 does not already have that I could think of < MGS4 (10.0)

(PS3 wins)

So if Banjo scores higher then there will be no doubt at all the 360 has the better platformer games over the PS3. So do you think Banjo will score higher then Ratchet?

Edit-Forgot about LBP to late to add to the poll.So if you think LBP will be the best just post that you think it will score better.

spidadragon1

What you just did is select single games that score better than the other and saying the system wins that genre because of one game thats better than another game.

I could say Resistance: (8.6)> Fear Files: (7.0)= PS3 Wins FPS Genre

I did not think it was hard to understand. I just picked the highest rated games that are not on the other console in the most popular areas and compared them. It just shows one console Vs the other in all the major areas.
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#60 rybe1025
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What if R & C: Quest for Booty gets a better review than both of them?Itinerant_Voice
I could be wrong but isn't that game just around 6 hours long and only $10? If that is true it will not be scored like a full retail game anyways. It would have to be compared to other download games.
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#61 Cyberfairy
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so far there are 25 fanboys who actually think banjo 3 won't beat that redicolous score that is 7.5 :lol:

this one is quite obvious.

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#62 AlphaGamer469
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so far there are 25 fanboys who actually think banjo 3 won't beat that redicolous score that is 7.5 :lol:

this one is quite obvious.

Cyberfairy

What's worse is, they cling to that 'we must change the SW rules pertaining to reviews' mantra, just for that game. They want to utiilze every other source for reviews because of R & C, use just GS for MGS4 and then go back to multiple sources for PSN's Siren. Talk about flip floping....

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#63 Haseokicksass
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[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]

JRPG-Lost ODyssey (7.5) > ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have already (360 wins)

rybe1025

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Add Folklore. Scored a 7, but still.

Thought about it but i keep hearing it is not really a rpg but it is more a action game

Sony lists it as an RPG on the playstation store. You can level up and level up your folks, so its an RPG. And LBP is the platformer that should judge how well the PS3's platformers are.

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#64 jonnyt61
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One thing that annoys me about your initial post, is you've actually changed Lemmings' stance on MGS4. I remember when it was close to release, and every Lemming and their brother was saying how the PS3's best game was going to be a shooter, to try and make out the PS3 was becoming the Xbox.

Now that it suits you to change that stance, MGS4 is a "Stealth" game.
You'd certainly lose that one there, wouldn't you?
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#65 GootHimp
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Gamespot scores do not count on Gamerankings!! Try system wars. Ratchet got almost a 9 there.

And you are clearly a fanboy, yep no doubt about it, if you were a sheep thn you would be making one of those "List of wii games" threads right now.

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#66 Zenkuso
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Banjo bound to outscore R&C TOD.

The score that come got is by no means the quality of that title, that reviewer seriously needed to be fired for that pitiful review cause that game was far more enjoyable then Kameo, a title I might have you that got a freakin 8.7 or something around here.

And how is one game going to make the 360 better in platformers?

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#68 Quintinius
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The thing is, I've kinda lost faith in Rare after so many staff members. The Stampers brothers being two major ones.
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#69 mamkem6
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Boring thread really:|
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#70 SecretPolice
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Yes as I think Banjo N&B is on track to get the highly coveted AAAE at GS and will be a instant classic.

I can't hardly wait until holiday 2008.

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#71 dkhw
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Yes as I think Banjo N&B is on track to get the highly coveted AAAE at GS and will be a instant classic.

I can't hardly wait until holiday 2008.

SecretPolice

It's possible. this is the only platformer that's going to have a full, true multiplayer, not some rushed added multiplayer.

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#72 AzatiS
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TC i see youre a very devoted guy to GS. So by your logic MGS4 >> every X360 game? Its 10 isnt?
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#73 bigLLL
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in this genre im sorry but you just cant leave out the Wii just because it's not HD? mario galaxy is just the best platform game this gen by a mile and banjo will certainly not get close

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#74 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="dkhw"]

[QUOTE="MerisYaki"] For fighting, Dead or Alive 5 outscored the non-existant ps3 exclusive fighter.dkhw

Tekken 5...fanboy intelligence falls everyday.

fine then

DOA4 (8.8 ) > tekken 4 (8.3) ....360 wins

i detest both franchises, and they are nothing but glorified button mashers compared to Street Fighter or Virtual Fighter, but Tekken is the most overrated fighting franchise ever, and any, i mean ANY fighting game beats any tekken game.

Do you have DoA4?

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#75 Dave2501
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just because gamespot gave ratchet and clank a bad score doesnt mean it deserves that score, gametrailers gave it 9.0 and that is fair in my opinion.
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#76 _witenite_
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1. no, little big planet would crush it anyway.

2. the only area that 360 beats the ps3 in my mind is the jrpgs.

i think killzone 2 and resistance 2 are better than halo 3 and gears

i think gt5 and motorstorm 2 beat any 360 racing game

fighting i think tekken 6 beats doa 4

wheres the tps area? mgs4, uncharted

wheres the action adventure are? uncharted, infamous, god of war 3

sorry, 360 does not beat ps3 in every category just because gamespot says so.

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#77 _witenite_
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[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]

so far there are 25 fanboys who actually think banjo 3 won't beat that redicolous score that is 7.5 :lol:

this one is quite obvious.

AlphaGamer469

What's worse is, they cling to that 'we must change the SW rules pertaining to reviews' mantra, just for that game. They want to utiilze every other source for reviews because of R & C, use just GS for MGS4 and then go back to multiple sources for PSN's Siren. Talk about flip floping....

says the lemmings when they continue to try and use other reviews against mgs4 :roll: talk about flip floping...

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#78 clembo1990
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7.5 is outrageous, i'm still fuming over that score. Banjo origionals i prefer and this game looks pretty awesome graphically speaking. Sure why not.
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#79 rybe1025
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1. no, little big planet would crush it anyway.

2. the only area that 360 beats the ps3 in my mind is the jrpgs.

i think killzone 2 and resistance 2 are better than halo 3 and gears

i think gt5 and motorstorm 2 beat any 360 racing game

fighting i think tekken 6 beats doa 4

wheres the tps area? mgs4, uncharted

wheres the action adventure are? uncharted, infamous, god of war 3

sorry, 360 does not beat ps3 in every category just because gamespot says so.

_witenite_

Well we do not go by forum posters to determine scores. So your opinion really only matters to you and when you buy games. I could think Big Rigs is the best game ever made but it would not matter.I do not think that but you get the point. What you think about game scores will never be how we judge games. It is only this website or maybe gamerankings.

I gave the stealth area to the PS3 with MGS4

Infamous and GoW3 are not even out so what is your point since there is not a review for them?

As far as action games. NG2 scored the same Uncharted or Heavenly Sword but Dead Rising scored higher then all 3 so 360 would win the Action area also. If you want to put MGS4 as a action game and not a Stealth game then PS3 still only wins one area. It would just win action and not stealth.

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#80 _witenite_
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[QUOTE="_witenite_"]

1. no, little big planet would crush it anyway.

2. the only area that 360 beats the ps3 in my mind is the jrpgs.

i think killzone 2 and resistance 2 are better than halo 3 and gears

i think gt5 and motorstorm 2 beat any 360 racing game

fighting i think tekken 6 beats doa 4

wheres the tps area? mgs4, uncharted

wheres the action adventure are? uncharted, infamous, god of war 3

sorry, 360 does not beat ps3 in every category just because gamespot says so.

rybe1025

Well we do not go by forum posters to determine scores. So your opinion really only matters to you and when you buy games. I could think Big Rigs is the best game ever made but it would not matter.I do not think that but you get the point. What you think about game scores will never be how we judge games. It is only this website or maybe gamerankings.

I gave the stealth area to the PS3 with MGS4

Infamous and GoW3 are not even out so what is your point since there is not a review for them?

As far as action games. NG2 scored the same Uncharted or Heavenly Sword but Dead Rising scored higher then all 3 so 360 would win the Action area also. If you want to put MGS4 as a action game and not a Stealth game then PS3 still only wins one area. It would just win action and not stealth.

oh god the irony. the reviewers still basically rate the games on how they like it, so how is their opinion any different from any one elses. and mgs4 is and stealth action game. it can be considered both.

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#81 eklineage
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Now first off I think the Wii is the best console for platformers.

Ratchet and Clank scored 7.5 so will Banjo: Nut and Bolts score higher then that? If so it would be another area where 360 is better then PS3 the platformer area. Even though 360 has Kameo that scored 8.7

Just look at the scores of some of the other games that can not be played on the other console. This is 360vs PS3. Only put games that have scores. This is how the other areas of gaming stack up-

Shooter- Halo 3 (9.5) Gears 1 (9.6) > RFoM (8.6) Haze (6.0) (360 wins)

Racers- Forza 2 (9.2) PGR4 (8.5) > Motorstorm (7.9) GT5P (7.5) (360 wins)

RTS- CnC3: Tib wars (8.7)> PS3 does not have any (360 wins)

JRPG-Lost ODyssey (7.5) > ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have already (360 wins)

WRPG-Mass Effect (8.5)> ps3 does not have any that the 360 does not have (360 wins)

Fighting- DOA 4 (8.8 ) > Tekken 5 (8.3) (360 wins)

Stealth-360 does not have any that the ps3 does not already have that I could think of < MGS4 (10.0)

(PS3 wins)

So if Banjo scores higher then there will be no doubt at all the 360 has the better platformer games over the PS3. So do you think Banjo will score higher then Ratchet?

Edit-Forgot about LBP to late to add to the poll.So if you think LBP will be the best just post that you think it will score better.

rybe1025

Your logic fails. DoA4> Tekken 5(ps2 game technically). Yet you compare lost oddyssey and say ps3 does not have any jrpgs. If we were going by your logic, Ps3 would be jrpg king cuz of the ps2 gen. You sure you're not a fanboy? o.0

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#82 mistervengeance
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have fun arguing for 2nd and 3rd place

nobody else cares

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#83 SecretPolice
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have fun arguing for 2nd and 3rd place

nobody else cares

mistervengeance
Yup, Braid is #1 so far but Banjo will be even sweeter. ;)
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#84 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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Well, considering Ratchet got royally shafter byt GS...and lately GS seems to be handing the 360 AAAs like candy on Halloween...chances are very good Banjo will outscore Ratchet.
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#85 Kratos_OMEGA
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Another, you make it sound like the 360 is better than the Ps3. IamTehN00bness

In terms of games? it is. duh.

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#86 Jdog30
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Banjo Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts is looking to be a LOT better than Ratchet.
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#87 _witenite_
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[QUOTE="IamTehN00bness"]Another, you make it sound like the 360 is better than the Ps3. Kratos_OMEGA

In terms of games? it is. duh.

not-for-long

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#88 Jack_Bauer07
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It absolutely will. The Banjo Kazooie series has proven to be superior over R&C, although both games are fun. Honestly Banjo is the reason to own a 360 imo, but I don't have the money to purchase one.:cry:
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#89 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

have fun arguing for 2nd and 3rd place

nobody else cares

SecretPolice
Yup, Braid is #1 so far but Banjo will be even sweeter. ;)

no...galaxy is the number 1 platformer this gen so far.
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#90 Nisim19
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KAMEO is allrady outscore R&C

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#91 Asim90
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On Gamespot it will outscore Ratchet. 7.5 isn't a very hard score to beat after all, although I think the reviewer that reviewed Ratchet was terrible, IMO its worth at least 8.5.
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#92 sam280992
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Hmmm back to Gamespot scores already? Fanboy logic at its best.

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#93 nervmeister
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Hmmm back to Gamespot scores already? Fanboy logic at its best.

sam280992
You know what? Let's up the ante even more. We should now be able to slingshot back and forth from Scandinavian review sites to backwoods blogs for the desired score. That'd be marvelous!
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#94 SecretPolice
Member since 2007 • 45671 Posts
[QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

have fun arguing for 2nd and 3rd place

nobody else cares

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Yup, Braid is #1 so far but Banjo will be even sweeter. ;)

no...galaxy is the number 1 platformer this gen so far.

SMG = 9.5 / Braid = 9.5 so I guess it's a tie and it comes down to user preference.
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#95 Jack_Bauer07
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

have fun arguing for 2nd and 3rd place

nobody else cares

SecretPolice

Yup, Braid is #1 so far but Banjo will be even sweeter. ;)

no...galaxy is the number 1 platformer this gen so far.

SMG = 9.5 / Braid = 9.5 so I guess it's a tie and it comes down to user preference.

Except that one is a 3-4 hour $15 XBLA game and the other a full $50 game. Huge difference.

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#96 sam280992
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

have fun arguing for 2nd and 3rd place

nobody else cares

SecretPolice

Yup, Braid is #1 so far but Banjo will be even sweeter. ;)

no...galaxy is the number 1 platformer this gen so far.

SMG = 9.5 / Braid = 9.5 so I guess it's a tie and it comes down to user preference.

You are actually comparing a 5 hour downloadable game (which have different standard) to a fully fledged game like Mario?

Wow the Lemmings have become desperate.

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#97 shadowlusterx
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Are you serious. RaC:ToD was amazing and from what I've seen of Banjo it's not going to come ven close. The PS3 game is the only one I've played though so I can't judge it based on the other games. But RaC:ToD>Banjo.
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#100 Jack_Bauer07
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[QUOTE="Jack_Bauer07"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"][QUOTE="mistervengeance"]

have fun arguing for 2nd and 3rd place

nobody else cares

SecretPolice

Yup, Braid is #1 so far but Banjo will be even sweeter. ;)

no...galaxy is the number 1 platformer this gen so far.

SMG = 9.5 / Braid = 9.5 so I guess it's a tie and it comes down to user preference.

Except that one is a 3-4 hour $15 XBLA game and the other a full $50 game. Huge difference.

Wait, insn't a 9.5 a 9.5 because I mean should Banjo score a 9.5 you may think it ties SMG but others (me :P ) will say but SMG is on the Wii with no HD,massive areas and 1600+ parts for making unique vehicles that you can then take on-line. Does SMG have anything like that ?

It's ether 9.5 for all or 9.5 for none. Which shall it be ?

I was talking about the difference between Braid and SMG. I don't disagree that Banjo will be 9-9.5 worthy, just that comparing SMG and Braid is ridiculous.