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Poll Will Bloodborne show legs this month? (52 votes)

Yes 58%
No 42%

In March Bloodborne charted in every chart you could find, including Medias Create, and NPD. The game has high reviews, a positive word of mouth, and it #38 on Amazon best sellers.

Do you think it's possible that BB will chart again for April? nothing seems to have come out this month outside MKX.

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@Sollet said:

@nyadc said:

@Sollet said:

@nyadc

Sure thing you MS apologist!

Exactly, you ain't got shit, piss off geek...

lul wut, geek? Dude both of us are on a video game forum.

Either way:

Touche, also I'm far from upset.

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@nyadc said:

@Sollet said:

@nyadc said:

@Sollet said:

@nyadc

Sure thing you MS apologist!

Exactly, you ain't got shit, piss off geek...

lul wut, geek? Dude both of us are on a video game forum.

Either way:

Touche, also I'm far from upset.

This isn't 1992.

You don't have to be a kid, geek or nerd to like or talk vidya games.

I myself am one of the coolest ppl I've met....so, yeah...let that sink in your sponge melons.

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#53 Planeforger
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Sure, why not?

There are plenty of good Bloodborne + PS4 bundleson the market, and it's one of the only PS4 exclusives that will sell systems, so I'd imagine that a whole bunch of people will jump on board this month.

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#54 silversix_
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@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

"niche title". BB will dominate because its an actual good game worth purchasing unless you despise rpg's.

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#55  Edited By Zen_Light
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Nope. It's a niche title and its 15 mins of fame is over.

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@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

"niche title". BB will dominate because its an actual good game worth purchasing unless you despise rpg's.

A lot of people love RPG's, and a lot and I mean A LOT of people who love RPG's don't like this/these game(s) at all...

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@Desmonic: lol i just spent over 3h on Amygdala in co-op with a friend and we only beat him on my glyph and not his. Defiled Chalices are a true pain in the anus. Getting one shotted by all his attacks (not the host, tho) is really annoying but i don't feel like i wasted my time at all, it was funny af

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#58 silversix_
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@nyadc said:

@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

"niche title". BB will dominate because its an actual good game worth purchasing unless you despise rpg's.

A lot of people love RPG's, and a lot and I mean A LOT of people who love RPG's don't like this/these game(s) at all...

I think your sentence is a niche title, sorry.

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#59  Edited By NyaDC
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@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

"niche title". BB will dominate because its an actual good game worth purchasing unless you despise rpg's.

A lot of people love RPG's, and a lot and I mean A LOT of people who love RPG's don't like this/these game(s) at all...

I think your sentence is a niche title, sorry.

You're getting a little too offended about this game, just because a ton of people don't like doesn't mean it has to upset you.

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@nyadc said:

You're getting a little too offended about this game, just because a ton of people don't like doesn't mean it has to upset you.

You're getting a little too offended about this game, just because a ton of people like it doesn't mean it has to upset you.

But it does.

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im with NYA this game has no legs

I bought it and the game is just frusterating you gotta kill 1 thing at a time and go slow and you always gotta be fully aware of everything

when i play game i wanna have fun i don't wanna die to every lil mis step or oops moment and then lose all my crap

even nintendo games weren't this punishing because in those those weere all we had at the time so you just were like fine ill deal with this now theres now theres other games out there

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@ProtossX said:

im with NYA this game has no legs

I bought it and the game is just frusterating you gotta kill 1 thing at a time and go slow and you always gotta be fully aware of everything

when i play game i wanna have fun i don't wanna die to every lil mis step or oops moment and then lose all my crap

even nintendo games weren't this punishing because in those those weere all we had at the time so you just were like fine ill deal with this now theres now theres other games out there

So basically you suck at the game.

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#63 ShoTTyMcNaDeS
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I love the premise of Bloodborne but I hate it because it is artificially made more difficult because if you die you have to keep replaying sections of the game over and over and over and over and over and over and over........OK, you get the point!! Im sorry, I don't have time in my day to replay parts of games 6 times until I get it right!! If this game had more save points, Id love it!!

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@nyadc said:

@Captainqwark10 said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

?

It's not a relevant game anymore, it sold what it did on hype before normal people were really aware of what it was, that is why the numbers were so high, plus the lack of quality exclusives.

The sales downturn is going to be massive, no one gives a shit about it, they don't like it, it's not a fun or exciting game for the mainstream, it's hollow and boring.

It's done.

Your prediction: 800k lifetime for Bloodborne.

Your remaining credibility: none.

And yeah, you do sound a little like TigerSuperman, including your absolute conviction in your own terrible predictions.

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#65 ProtossX
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@Dire_Weasel said:

@nyadc said:

@Captainqwark10 said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

?

It's not a relevant game anymore, it sold what it did on hype before normal people were really aware of what it was, that is why the numbers were so high, plus the lack of quality exclusives.

The sales downturn is going to be massive, no one gives a shit about it, they don't like it, it's not a fun or exciting game for the mainstream, it's hollow and boring.

It's done.

Your prediction: 800k lifetime for Bloodborne.

Your remaining credibility: none.

And yeah, you do sound a little like TigerSuperman, including your absolute conviction in your own terrible predictions.

bloodborne is niche i played it, its a super hardcore difficult game kids won't like it and casual players won't like it

it was frontloaded in sales because of all the dark soul lovers hype and now the hype will die down all those fans bought it just like if a big movie comes out all the fans saw it NOW its gonna tank

his prediction was not that off its not gonna be on anymore charts the fans already bought it

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@ProtossX said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

@nyadc said:

@Captainqwark10 said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

?

It's not a relevant game anymore, it sold what it did on hype before normal people were really aware of what it was, that is why the numbers were so high, plus the lack of quality exclusives.

The sales downturn is going to be massive, no one gives a shit about it, they don't like it, it's not a fun or exciting game for the mainstream, it's hollow and boring.

It's done.

Your prediction: 800k lifetime for Bloodborne.

Your remaining credibility: none.

And yeah, you do sound a little like TigerSuperman, including your absolute conviction in your own terrible predictions.

bloodborne is niche i played it, its a super hardcore difficult game kids won't like it and casual players won't like it

it was frontloaded in sales because of all the dark soul lovers hype and now the hype will die down all those fans bought it just like if a big movie comes out all the fans saw it NOW its gonna tank

his prediction was not that off its not gonna be on anymore charts the fans already bought it

Bloodborne sold more copies in 12 days (1 million) than nyadc predicted it would sell lifetime.

His prediction was as "off" as it could possibly be.

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I don't think Bloodborne will completely fall off the charts but I also don't think it will finish in the top 2 in the NPD much longer. It's a great game with a very dedicated following. The initial sales were above most peoples expectations and I think that Bloodborne will sell well over it's lifetime. Why isn't that enough for some people? Why does it have to be a "Smash hit blockbuster" or "fall off the charts" to some of you?

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#68  Edited By Heil68
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I think we'll see good sales for another month or so then it will drop off.

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#69 silversix_
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@nyadc said:

@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

"niche title". BB will dominate because its an actual good game worth purchasing unless you despise rpg's.

A lot of people love RPG's, and a lot and I mean A LOT of people who love RPG's don't like this/these game(s) at all...

I think your sentence is a niche title, sorry.

You're getting a little too offended about this game, just because a ton of people don't like doesn't mean it has to upset you.

it upsets you that it sold this well and is THIS popular, doesn't it? "niche title"

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@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

@silversix_ said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

"niche title". BB will dominate because its an actual good game worth purchasing unless you despise rpg's.

A lot of people love RPG's, and a lot and I mean A LOT of people who love RPG's don't like this/these game(s) at all...

I think your sentence is a niche title, sorry.

You're getting a little too offended about this game, just because a ton of people don't like doesn't mean it has to upset you.

it upsets you that it sold this well and is THIS popular, doesn't it? "niche title"

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#71  Edited By Captainqwark10
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@nyadc said:

@Sollet said:

@nyadc said:

@Sollet said:

@nyadc

Sure thing you MS apologist!

Exactly, you ain't got shit, piss off geek...

lul wut, geek? Dude both of us are on a video game forum.

Either way:

Touche, also I'm far from upset.

This isn't the 60's guys Geek only applies to those kids who do the maths and science.

@Dire_Weasel said:

@ProtossX said:

@Dire_Weasel said:

@nyadc said:

@Captainqwark10 said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

?

It's not a relevant game anymore, it sold what it did on hype before normal people were really aware of what it was, that is why the numbers were so high, plus the lack of quality exclusives.

The sales downturn is going to be massive, no one gives a shit about it, they don't like it, it's not a fun or exciting game for the mainstream, it's hollow and boring.

It's done.

Your prediction: 800k lifetime for Bloodborne.

Your remaining credibility: none.

And yeah, you do sound a little like TigerSuperman, including your absolute conviction in your own terrible predictions.

bloodborne is niche i played it, its a super hardcore difficult game kids won't like it and casual players won't like it

it was frontloaded in sales because of all the dark soul lovers hype and now the hype will die down all those fans bought it just like if a big movie comes out all the fans saw it NOW its gonna tank

his prediction was not that off its not gonna be on anymore charts the fans already bought it

Bloodborne sold more copies in 12 days (1 million) than nyadc predicted it would sell lifetime.

His prediction was as "off" as it could possibly be.

Lol wait how much did he predict?

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#72 ConanTheStoner  Online
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@Captainqwark10:

800k lifetime sales. 70s on Meta.

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nyameltdowndc making a fool out of himself in another bloodporne thread lawd

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nyameltdowndc making a fool out of himself in another bloodporne thread lawd

He is the must buttmad person about Bloodborne success we have on SW. Even most lems respect that masterpiece known as BLOODBORNE.

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Its pretty much the only worth while game on the PS4. So it will have legs to some extent if for no other reason.

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@Couth_ said:

nyameltdowndc making a fool out of himself in another bloodporne thread lawd

"me no lem me manticore,

please understand 343 and microsoft for releasing broken games, bloodborne teh nicheeeeeeee!!!!!!!!111111111111 50 games sold max!!!!"

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@ConanTheStoner said:

@Captainqwark10:

800k lifetime sales. 70s on Meta.

Lol.

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@skelly34 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@nyadc said:

@Captainqwark10 said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

?

It's not a relevant game anymore, it sold what it did on hype before normal people were really aware of what it was, that is why the numbers were so high, plus the lack of quality exclusives.

The sales downturn is going to be massive, no one gives a shit about it, they don't like it, it's not a fun or exciting game for the mainstream, it's hollow and boring.

It's done.

You are mad Salty bruh, Lmfao.

I don't know how relevant the game is anymore, but it is by far the most dumbed down and lackluster souls/souls-esque game. I barely wanted to finish my first playthrough let alone replay the entire thing again in NG+ and the PvP is just... absolutely terrible.

Apparently a lot of people think it's worse than Dark Souls 2 was and have gone off to buy SotFS.

It definitely will not survive as long as Dark Souls 1 and 2 did, it just doesn't have depth or variety.

Sorry, but it is superior to the previous games in just about every way, especially DS2. Level design, enemy design and AI, combat, atmosphere. On and on. Soul memory is more complex than simple Soul Level system; that didn't make it better, it made it worse.

I can understand some people preferring the DS2 remake for the "Arena Souls" experience. That doesn't make the game as a whole better than DS1 or Bloodborne. DS2 is the COD of the Souls games, with dumbed down level design and progression and emphasis on MP. Unfortunately, the rest of the game suffered because of that design concept.

Miyazaki was very clear that Bloodborne is first and foremost a single player experience. Same philosophy he had on Demon and Dark 1. The difference is clear.

Bloodborne has more variety and depth with Chalice Dungeons(which features generated maps that are of the same quality of the "designed" maps in DS2) and the system seems tailor-made for longevity and DLC. New discoveries are being made just about every day. People are barely finding out about PvP dungeons.

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@ConanTheStoner said:

@Captainqwark10:

800k lifetime sales. 70s on Meta.

Not including the context of my prediction as always, idiot...

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@mr-powers said:

@skelly34 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@nyadc said:

@Captainqwark10 said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

?

It's not a relevant game anymore, it sold what it did on hype before normal people were really aware of what it was, that is why the numbers were so high, plus the lack of quality exclusives.

The sales downturn is going to be massive, no one gives a shit about it, they don't like it, it's not a fun or exciting game for the mainstream, it's hollow and boring.

It's done.

You are mad Salty bruh, Lmfao.

I don't know how relevant the game is anymore, but it is by far the most dumbed down and lackluster souls/souls-esque game. I barely wanted to finish my first playthrough let alone replay the entire thing again in NG+ and the PvP is just... absolutely terrible.

Apparently a lot of people think it's worse than Dark Souls 2 was and have gone off to buy SotFS.

It definitely will not survive as long as Dark Souls 1 and 2 did, it just doesn't have depth or variety.

Sorry, but it is superior to the previous games in just about every way, especially DS2. Level design, enemy design and AI, combat, atmosphere. On and on. Soul memory is more complex than simple Soul Level system; that didn't make it better, it made it worse.

I can understand some people preferring the DS2 remake for the "Arena Souls" experience. That doesn't make the game as a whole better than DS1 or Bloodborne. DS2 is the COD of the Souls games, with dumbed down level design and progression and emphasis on MP. Unfortunately, the rest of the game suffered because of that design concept.

Miyazaki was very clear that Bloodborne is first and foremost a single player experience. Same philosophy he had on Demon and Dark 1. The difference is clear.

Bloodborne has more variety and depth with Chalice Dungeons(which features generated maps that are of the same quality of the "designed" maps in DS2) and the system seems tailor-made for longevity and DLC. New discoveries are being made just about every day. People are barely finding out about PvP dungeons.

Oh, I see. So apparently because a game is focused on one feature, it is completely justified in botching/ignoring the other features that many fans found important from the previous games. This must be how Bloodborne is "superior." Simply brilliant, sir.

You're definition of "variety and depth" is not same as mine as I was referring to builds, items and meta, not maps.

I can appreciate that many people and the devs consider BB to be more PvE oriented, but that doesn't excuse it for being barebones, especially when the PVE isn't actually better than it was in Dark Souls. The AI is fucking terrible and it is by far the least challenging souls game to come out (coming from somebody who didn't even know about the gun riposte until I was on Gehrman.) It's stupid easy, dumbed down and marketed towards casuls and you're not going to convince me otherwise as I've actually played the game.

I think you're speaking more as an advocate for Sony than a souls fan.

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#81  Edited By NyaDC
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@skelly34 said:

I think you're speaking more as an advocate for Sony than a souls fan.

To be honest I think that is what the majority of the people around here are doing... If this were a multi-platform game I'd bet 2/3 of the people clamoring on about it on this website wouldn't even be interested in it...

This is a Sony thing, not a Souls things..

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#82  Edited By Bigboi500
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@Sollet said:

So basically you suck at the game.

The main reason people generally dislike Souls games fans because this is the parroting comment to any and all criticisms about any of the games.

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@Bigboi500 said:

@Sollet said:

So basically you suck at the game.

The main reason people generally dislike Souls games fans because this is the parroting comment to any and all criticisms about any of the games.

I can confirm this is true. I've heard this sentence for hundreds of times since i got into the series in early 2010

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#84  Edited By Skelly34
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@silversix_ said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Sollet said:

So basically you suck at the game.

The main reason people generally dislike Souls games fans because this is the parroting comment to any and all criticisms about any of the games.

I can confirm this is true. I've heard this sentence for hundreds of times since i got into the series in early 2010

What if I think it's too easy?

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@skelly34 said:

@silversix_ said:

@Bigboi500 said:

@Sollet said:

So basically you suck at the game.

The main reason people generally dislike Souls games fans because this is the parroting comment to any and all criticisms about any of the games.

I can confirm this is true. I've heard this sentence for hundreds of times since i got into the series in early 2010

What if I think it's too easy?

you're a bragging scrub that is probably too scared to one v one me on twitter.

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#86 Sollet
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@Bigboi500 said:

@Sollet said:

So basically you suck at the game.

The main reason people generally dislike Souls games fans because this is the parroting comment to any and all criticisms about any of the games.

Except that I am not a "souls fan"

This is like the first "souls"-game I have played through in its entirety.
I tried to get into Demon's souls but I found the setting rather boring, same goes for Dark Souls ( I own the prepare the die edition on PC, damn steam sales).

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Not including the context of my prediction as always, idiot...

Whoa there little lady, loosen the panties a bit.

What was the context of your bullshit again? Oh yeah, making pointless assumptions about critical and commercial success based on absolutely fucking nothing. Being a salty twat about the game every chance you could.Sorry that I left that part out, didn't mean to upset you.

  • "Bloodborne will score lower than the Souls titles because people are tired of the same shit!" - That's nice, but it appears that you were way off base. As many similarities as it shares with the Souls titles, it is in fact its own thing. Truth be told though, that's not even really a factor. How many stale ass repeat sequels score well every year again? Aren't you the one going out of your way to champion fucking HALO on the regular? Haha.
  • "Bloodborne will sell 800k lifetime because it's niche and doesn't appeal to the 99%!" - First off, what game actually appeals to the 99%? Especially a core game. Oh yeah, none. Aside from that though, how short sighted does one have to be to make such a prediction? Every Souls title has sold at least twice that much. Fucking Demons Souls, a brand new IP, far from being accessible, managed to smash 800k lifetime on word of mouth alone. Yet somehow Bloodborne, a game with an established fanbase after 3 Souls titles, the most heavily marketed one of the bunch, launching into a user base that is starved for a quality exclusive, was going to sell abysmal numbers?

So tell me Nostradamus, who is the idiot here? The one who made completely illogical predictions based on rabid fanboyism and a bucket of salt, or the one that tried telling you all along what would really happen?

Oh, but you're still right because you looked on Craigslist and people were selling their copies.

Wanker.

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@nyadc said:

@Krelian-co said:

bu bu teh microsoft and 343 had no choice other than releasing a broken game!!!!

Idiot drastically oversimplifying paragraph upon paragraph of writing which is contextually sound.

Do intelligent people exist here?

you post here so ... probably not

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@ConanTheStoner said:

@nyadc said:

Not including the context of my prediction as always, idiot...

Whoa there little lady, loosen the panties a bit.

What was the context of your bullshit again? Oh yeah, making pointless assumptions about critical and commercial success based on absolutely fucking nothing. Being a salty twat about the game every chance you could.Sorry that I left that part out, didn't mean to upset you.

  • "Bloodborne will score lower than the Souls titles because people are tired of the same shit!" - That's nice, but it appears that you were way off base. As many similarities as it shares with the Souls titles, it is in fact its own thing. Truth be told though, that's not even really a factor. How many stale ass repeat sequels score well every year again? Aren't you the one going out of your way to champion fucking HALO on the regular? Haha.
  • "Bloodborne will sell 800k lifetime because it's niche and doesn't appeal to the 99%!" - First off, what game actually appeals to the 99%? Especially a core game. Oh yeah, none. Aside from that though, how short sighted does one have to be to make such a prediction? Every Souls title has sold at least twice that much. Fucking Demons Souls, a brand new IP, far from being accessible, managed to smash 800k lifetime on word of mouth alone. Yet somehow Bloodborne, a game with an established fanbase after 3 Souls titles, the most heavily marketed one of the bunch, launching into a user base that is starved for a quality exclusive, was going to sell abysmal numbers?

So tell me Nostradamus, who is the idiot here? The one who made completely illogical predictions based on rabid fanboyism and a bucket of salt, or the one that tried telling you all along what would really happen?

Oh, but you're still right because you looked on Craigslist and people were selling their copies.

Wanker.

Nailed it, nothing left to be said here.

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You know what.... the decent discussion for this topic ran its course a long time go...... now its just sensless bickering.

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@skelly34 said:
@mr-powers said:

@skelly34 said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@nyadc said:

@Captainqwark10 said:

@nyadc said:

No, the whole Bloodborne thing is over. The only reason it is still even talked about is to bring relevance to it when it no longer is...

?

It's not a relevant game anymore, it sold what it did on hype before normal people were really aware of what it was, that is why the numbers were so high, plus the lack of quality exclusives.

The sales downturn is going to be massive, no one gives a shit about it, they don't like it, it's not a fun or exciting game for the mainstream, it's hollow and boring.

It's done.

You are mad Salty bruh, Lmfao.

I don't know how relevant the game is anymore, but it is by far the most dumbed down and lackluster souls/souls-esque game. I barely wanted to finish my first playthrough let alone replay the entire thing again in NG+ and the PvP is just... absolutely terrible.

Apparently a lot of people think it's worse than Dark Souls 2 was and have gone off to buy SotFS.

It definitely will not survive as long as Dark Souls 1 and 2 did, it just doesn't have depth or variety.

Sorry, but it is superior to the previous games in just about every way, especially DS2. Level design, enemy design and AI, combat, atmosphere. On and on. Soul memory is more complex than simple Soul Level system; that didn't make it better, it made it worse.

I can understand some people preferring the DS2 remake for the "Arena Souls" experience. That doesn't make the game as a whole better than DS1 or Bloodborne. DS2 is the COD of the Souls games, with dumbed down level design and progression and emphasis on MP. Unfortunately, the rest of the game suffered because of that design concept.

Miyazaki was very clear that Bloodborne is first and foremost a single player experience. Same philosophy he had on Demon and Dark 1. The difference is clear.

Bloodborne has more variety and depth with Chalice Dungeons(which features generated maps that are of the same quality of the "designed" maps in DS2) and the system seems tailor-made for longevity and DLC. New discoveries are being made just about every day. People are barely finding out about PvP dungeons.

Oh, I see. So apparently because a game is focused on one feature, it is completely justified in botching/ignoring the other features that many fans found important from the previous games. This must be how Bloodborne is "superior." Simply brilliant, sir.

You're definition of "variety and depth" is not same as mine as I was referring to builds, items and meta, not maps.

I can appreciate that many people and the devs consider BB to be more PvE oriented, but that doesn't excuse it for being barebones, especially when the PVE isn't actually better than it was in Dark Souls. The AI is fucking terrible and it is by far the least challenging souls game to come out (coming from somebody who didn't even know about the gun riposte until I was on Gehrman.) It's stupid easy, dumbed down and marketed towards casuls and you're not going to convince me otherwise as I've actually played the game.

I think you're speaking more as an advocate for Sony than a souls fan.

Most games don't have unlimited funds and time, something's got to give and priorities are made. Different titles also have different goals. COD is a MP oriented FPS, Half Life 2 is not and it shows. I listed just a few of the many reasons Bloodborne is superior. I'll take insight over Soul Memory or Humanity any day. I'll take the moon cycle over whatever that was in DS2.

You're right, our definitions are different. I place a higher priority on substance like good design and game mechanics than on "fashion souls" and useless stats. I'll take substance over useless novelty weapons and pretty clothing. Again, just goes to show DS2 priorities compared to Bloodborne. You can ignore Chalice Dungeons, doesn't mean they don't exist and don't add long lasting appeal.

You are entitled to your opinion, even if is a bad one. The PVE is so much better, it's hard to even go back to DS2. Feels like you have to remove part of your brain just to go back and deal with those garbage hitboxes. The only reason I've seen some people talk about going back was for the arena souls experience, not because the actual game as a whole was so amazing. The AI and combat is much better than any Souls game, gone are the days of poke, turtle, poke, turtle in the same patterns over and over. Enemies have more attack variety and even hidden attacks that are revealed later.

Sounds like you played the easy mode without knowing it, a lot of people who claimed to be godlike in this game did this. I think they patched that mode out. Dumbed down, marketed towards casuals... funny, that's exactly what the consensus about DS2 is, not Bloodborne.

Now, looking at the join date, I think I realize what's going on. Sorry I entertained the troll.

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@nyadc said:

@skelly34 said:

I think you're speaking more as an advocate for Sony than a souls fan.

To be honest I think that is what the majority of the people around here are doing... If this were a multi-platform game I'd bet 2/3 of the people clamoring on about it on this website wouldn't even be interested in it...

This is a Sony thing, not a Souls things..

And if this game was on PC/ Xbone you'd be singing a different tune.

Dat fucking Irony bro.

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There's a possibility it will make top 10. Obviously, MKX is going to be the big one this month, though.

Also, hardware is slowing down in April, so Bloodborne's System Seller factor is no longer in play.

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#94  Edited By Skelly34
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@mr-powers said:

Most games don't have unlimited funds and time, something's got to give and priorities are made. Different titles also have different goals. COD is a MP oriented FPS, Half Life 2 is not and it shows. I listed just a few of the many reasons Bloodborne is superior. I'll take insight over Soul Memory or Humanity any day. I'll take the moon cycle over whatever that was in DS2.

You're right, our definitions are different. I place a higher priority on substance like good design and game mechanics than on "fashion souls" and useless stats. I'll take substance over useless novelty weapons and pretty clothing. Again, just goes to show DS2 priorities compared to Bloodborne. You can ignore Chalice Dungeons, doesn't mean they don't exist and don't add long lasting appeal.

You are entitled to your opinion, even if is a bad one. The PVE is so much better, it's hard to even go back to DS2. Feels like you have to remove part of your brain just to go back and deal with those garbage hitboxes. The only reason I've seen some people talk about going back was for the arena souls experience, not because the actual game as a whole was so amazing. The AI and combat is much better than any Souls game, gone are the days of poke, turtle, poke, turtle in the same patterns over and over. Enemies have more attack variety and even hidden attacks that are revealed later.

Sounds like you played the easy mode without knowing it, a lot of people who claimed to be godlike in this game did this. I think they patched that mode out. Dumbed down, marketed towards casuals... funny, that's exactly what the consensus about DS2 is, not Bloodborne.

Now, looking at the join date, I think I realize what's going on. Sorry I entertained the troll.

If a game sacrifices certain features to prioritize another, then that feature must be exceptional in order to compensate. Bloodborne does not have better PvE and you're either that loyal to Sony or new to the series to fool yourself into believing it does. You can talk all you want about level design and atmosphere, those were great in this game. There is nothing else otherwise.

Dear god, you completely misunderstood what I was saying didn't you? Where did I say anything fashion souls? You think stats that alter your playstyle entirely are useless? Oh poor you, you don't even know meta is...? Oh boy, I have a lot to explain to you.

Allow me to elaborate:

-It lacks variety because there is essentially only one build(dex), and just because other builds from past games that used magic and miracles were super easy to use doesn't mean that removing them improves the game. It just lessens it. If they really wanted to appeal to souls vets like me they would have kept the easy mode ways and simply made the game harder. Not remove easy modes and make the game easier for dex.

-It lacks items because there are less weapons, yet it still shares imbalance that DKS had. So instead of having something like 40/300 viable weapons, Bloodborne has more like 4/17 viable weapons. You made a crack at fashion souls, but in BB you might as well just pick prettiest looking armor because armor has absolutely no impact on anything.

-It lacks meta because everyone is making the same build(dex), using it the same way (fastattack/bloodvialspam), in a whopping total two pvp areas. Players don't try new things because there is nothing else to try. Every pvp match, for the rest of BB's duration, will be exactly the same, done over and over again.

Do you really consider level design/dungeons to be "variety and depth?" I am not pretending they don't exist, but randomly generated dungeons have nothing to do with what I was referring to.

gone are the days of poke, turtle, poke, turtle in the same patterns over and over.

It was better than the fucking spamspamspam system that BB has. If I wanted BB's shitty combat I would play DMC, I expect something more technical from From Software.

Dumbed down, marketed towards casuals... funny, that's exactly what the consensus about DS2, not bloodborne.

Partially right, DKSII was marketed towards casuals, it was the CoD 4 of it's series. Bloodborne is marketed more towards casuls(super casuals) and the consensus is quickly turning to BB being the MW2 of it's series. The easiest, most dumbed down, fanbase-betraying CoD of them all. Not like you really care, you're probably one of those casuls they recently reeled in.

Feels like you have to remove part of your brain just to go back and deal with those garbage hitboxes.

That's funny. Inversely, I quickly learned that I have to turn off my brain entirely when I'm playing Bloodborne so rational thought doesn't hold back my hand-twitch and mindless spam stunlocking.

Sounds like you played the easy mode without knowing it.

Don't make bad jokes with me, casul. I don't claim to be godlike, only that this game is stupid easy. I struggled on Gascoigne and Blood Starved beast because I didn't know how to use riposte. And from there the rest of the game was just a big fat joke of easiness. Actually, playing a Dex build in Dark Souls 1 and 2 is 10x harder than anything in this game. You actually have to manage your stamina instead of just spamspamspamspamdodgebloodvialbloodvialdodgesspamspamspam. At least half the time I went to chug estus the boss punished me for it, now I can just heal for half my health every .5 seconds with bloodvials. Oh Bloodborne is so very hard!

I think you like easier games because you're a console only gamer. Oh well, maybe you'll open your mind sooner or later.

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#95  Edited By BobRossPerm
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@skelly34 said:
@mr-powers said:

Most games don't have unlimited funds and time, something's got to give and priorities are made. Different titles also have different goals. COD is a MP oriented FPS, Half Life 2 is not and it shows. I listed just a few of the many reasons Bloodborne is superior. I'll take insight over Soul Memory or Humanity any day. I'll take the moon cycle over whatever that was in DS2.

You're right, our definitions are different. I place a higher priority on substance like good design and game mechanics than on "fashion souls" and useless stats. I'll take substance over useless novelty weapons and pretty clothing. Again, just goes to show DS2 priorities compared to Bloodborne. You can ignore Chalice Dungeons, doesn't mean they don't exist and don't add long lasting appeal.

You are entitled to your opinion, even if is a bad one. The PVE is so much better, it's hard to even go back to DS2. Feels like you have to remove part of your brain just to go back and deal with those garbage hitboxes. The only reason I've seen some people talk about going back was for the arena souls experience, not because the actual game as a whole was so amazing. The AI and combat is much better than any Souls game, gone are the days of poke, turtle, poke, turtle in the same patterns over and over. Enemies have more attack variety and even hidden attacks that are revealed later.

Sounds like you played the easy mode without knowing it, a lot of people who claimed to be godlike in this game did this. I think they patched that mode out. Dumbed down, marketed towards casuals... funny, that's exactly what the consensus about DS2 is, not Bloodborne.

Now, looking at the join date, I think I realize what's going on. Sorry I entertained the troll.

If a game sacrifices certain features to prioritize another, then that feature must be exceptional in order to compensate. Bloodborne does not have better PvE and you're either that loyal to Sony or new to the series to fool yourself into believing it does. You can talk all you want about level design and atmosphere, those were great in this game. There is nothing else otherwise.

Dear god, you completely misunderstood what I was saying didn't you? Where did I say anything fashion souls? You think stats that alter your playstyle entirely are useless? Oh poor you, you don't even know meta is...? Oh boy, I have a lot to explain to you.

Allow me to elaborate:

-It lacks variety because there is essentially only one build(dex), and just because other builds from past games that used magic and miracles were super easy to use doesn't mean that removing them improves the game. It just lessens it. If they really wanted to appeal to souls vets like me they would have kept the easy mode ways and simply made the game harder. Not remove easy modes and make the game easier for dex.

-It lacks items because there are less weapons, yet it still shares imbalance that DKS had. So instead of having something like 40/300 viable weapons, Bloodborne has more like 4/17 viable weapons. You made a crack at fashion souls, but in BB you might as well just pick prettiest looking armor because armor has absolutely no impact on anything.

-It lacks meta because everyone is making the same build(dex), using it the same way (fastattack/bloodvialspam), in a whopping total two pvp areas. Players don't try new things because there is nothing else to try. Every pvp match, for the rest of BB's duration, will the exact the same done over and over again.

Do you real consider level design/dungeons to be "Variety and depth." I am not pretending they don't exist, but randomaly generated dungeons have nothing to do with what I was referring to.

gone are the days of poke, turtle, poke, turtle in the same patterns over and over.

It was better than the fucking spamspamspam system that BB has. If I wanted BB's shitty combat I would play DMC, I expect something more technical from From Software.

Dumbed down, marketed towards casuals... funny, that's exactly what the consensus about DS2, not bloodborne.

Partially right, DKSII was marketed towards casuals it was the CoD 4 of it's series. Bloodborne is marketed more towards casuls(super casuals) and the consensus is quickly turning to BB being the MW2 of it's series. The easiest, most dumbed down, fanbase-betraying CoD of them all. Not like you really care, you're probably one of those casuls they recently reeled in.

Feels like you have to remove part of your brain just to go back and deal with those garbage hitboxes.

That's funny. Inversely, I quickly learned that I have to turn off my brain entirely when I'm playing Bloodborne so rational thought doesn't hold back my hand-twitch and mindless spam stunlocking.

Sounds like you played the easy mode without knowing it.

Don't make bad jokes with me, casul. I don't claim to be godlike, only that this game is stupid easy. I struggled on Gascoigne and Blood Starved beast because I didn't know how to use riposte and from there the rest of the game was just a big fat joke of easiness. Actually, playing a Dex build in Dark Souls 1 and 2 is 10x harder than anything in this game. You actually have to manage your stamina instead of just spamspamspamspamdodgebloodvialbloodvialdodgesspamspamspam. At least half the time I went to chug estus the boss punished me for it, now I can just heal for half my health every .5 seconds. Oh Bloodbonre is so very hard!

I think you like easier games because you're a console only gamer. Oh well, maybe you'll open your mind sooner or later.

Bro, you have a gift of breaking down a great game and making it look like ass. Well done.

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@Lulu_Lulu said:

You know what.... the decent discussion for this topic ran its course a long time go...... now its just sensless bickering.

It's the ultimate fate of every sales thread. Hell you could say it's most SW threads in general, but sales threads always come with a quick expiration date.

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@ConanTheStoner:

Things have been so slow in GD that I'm forced to come here and walk among the fanboy filth. :(

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#98  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@ConanTheStoner:

Things have been so slow in GD that I'm forced to come here and walk among the fanboy filth. :(

no more threads to spam with nonsensical posts on GD?

well, come right in, you will feel right at home at hating games you never played and making bullshit to justify it.

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@Krelian-co:

LoL....... you haven't been to GD have you ?

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#100  Edited By Krelian-co
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

@Krelian-co:

LoL....... you haven't been to GD have you ?

man, are you the next sherlock holmes?!

your power of deduction blow me away, not only you know everything there is to know about gaming industry, but you can also deduct things like this, i better be careful doe. superior basement dweller intelect right here.