Will Killzone 2 Live upto it's hype?

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#51 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

why people state its gameplay is average or that devs are not giving it the proper attention... guess you didnt have the chance to try the beta... Gameplay is fine and considering the positive feedback from the media the sp campaign will be even better since the 1st person cover systems works really well...

just stop criticising KZ2's gameplay specially if you havent even had the chance to try the beta.... like all other games KZ2 won't be perfect but looks like GG managed to combine solid gameplay with amazing visuals this time which can only be good news to PS3 owners who like shooters..

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Listen, I played the beta for a good three hours. Gameplay is a standard FPS but it lacks any unique factor. Previews are generally almost always positive as well as people have no chance to delve into the campaign or anything with any deep evaluation. First person cover system? That's old. I used that in Riddick last generation or Perfect Dark Zero this generation. Rainbow Six Vegas has one too. It adds nothing to the fun and does not make a game better.

well cover systems you mentioned are different from the one in KZ2 specially the RSV games... why people expect that KZ2 revolutionise the fps genre?? is it because its a hyped game and exclusive to PS3 so therefore it has to completely re-invent the fps genre??

If you tried the beta and like shooters then you should know as much as i do that it was slow paced but shooting was sharp, and there was a good feeling for weight for both character & weapons... also maps available were well designed for online play with open areas and corridors which create different situations & tacticts to adopt..

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#52 Drukter
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[QUOTE="tek91"][QUOTE="smokedope420"]killzone 2 hype=10GodofBigMacs
I think it will probably be aaa but for the sake of argument if the game gets aaaa and we have PS 3- 2aaaa games with 360 - 0 aaaa will the lemmings go into hiding ?

No, they'll find some way to bash it... some way...

Why would KZ2 get 10 and not any of the Half-Life games? Keep dreaming.
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#53 SpinoRaptor24
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Doubt it, considering the insane amount of hype this game is getting. It's like PS3 fanboys have never seen a shooter before.
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#54 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

why people state its gameplay is average or that devs are not giving it the proper attention... guess you didnt have the chance to try the beta... Gameplay is fine and considering the positive feedback from the media the sp campaign will be even better since the 1st person cover systems works really well...

just stop criticising KZ2's gameplay specially if you havent even had the chance to try the beta.... like all other games KZ2 won't be perfect but looks like GG managed to combine solid gameplay with amazing visuals this time which can only be good news to PS3 owners who like shooters..

Malta_1980

Listen, I played the beta for a good three hours. Gameplay is a standard FPS but it lacks any unique factor. Previews are generally almost always positive as well as people have no chance to delve into the campaign or anything with any deep evaluation. First person cover system? That's old. I used that in Riddick last generation or Perfect Dark Zero this generation. Rainbow Six Vegas has one too. It adds nothing to the fun and does not make a game better.

well cover systems you mentioned are different from the one in KZ2 specially the RSV games... why people expect that KZ2 revolutionise the fps genre?? is it because its a hyped game and exclusive to PS3 so therefore it has to completely re-invent the fps genre??

If you tried the beta and like shooters then you should know as much as i do that it was slow paced but shooting was sharp, and there was a good feeling for weight for both character & weapons... also maps available were well designed for online play with open areas and corridors which create different situations & tacticts to adopt..

The problem with Killzone is it has nothing to seperate it from any other console shooter out there. It's gray, looks great, has a most likely poor story, and has tried and tested online. It's got solid gameplay but it does nothing new. Games that are like this end up being good-great. Good - Great games get 7.0-8.5 scores. That is my reasoning for a A-AA ranking for Killzone 2.
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#55 Malta_1980
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"][QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

you mentioned are different from the one in KZ2 specially the RSV games... why people expect that KZ2 revolutionise the fps genre?? is it because its a hyped game and exclusive to PS3 so therefore it has to completely re-invent the fps genre??

If you tried the beta and like shooters then you should know as much as i do that it was slow paced but shooting was sharp, and there was a good feeling for weight for both character & weapons... also maps available were well designed for online play with open areas and corridors which create different situations & tacticts to adopt..

Toriko42

The problem with Killzone is it has nothing to seperate it from any other console shooter out there. It's gray, looks great, has a most likely poor story, and has tried and tested online. It's got solid gameplay but it does nothing new. Games that are like this end up being good-great. Good - Great games get 7.0-8.5 scores. That is my reasoning for a A-AA ranking for Killzone 2.

Ok first i have to admit i'm one of those hyped for this game so i might be slightly biased :)

However in reply to your last comment, i also dont think KZ2 will do anything to make it stand out from the FPS crowd except for its visuals... Gray or not its the artistic approach devs thought it was fitting for the setting.. personally i think it suits perfectly since it adds more atmosphere to the whole game... As for story no FPS game (except Half-life imo) can claim to have great stories in their sp campaigns... its always been get from point A to point B, shoot the living hell out of every moving object, save MR X, destroy target X or else open Gate X in order to proceed... its common in all fps games were they are ambiented during conflicts / wars.. KZ2 cannot be an exception to the rule afterall you're in a squad with the sole intention to kill as many enemies as possible and get to the final point were there leader(s) is/are and kill them to end the conflict..

So an average story in an FPS game if backed up by action-packed well paced sections, great gameplay & variety of weapons / objectives make a shooter go from Good to Great... adding maybe co-op & a varied online modes make an FPS go from Great to Excellent...

Imo KZ2 has a huge change to end up being a Great or Excellent FPS and maybe (just Maybe) be considered the best FPS available on consoles..

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#56 Toriko42
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

you mentioned are different from the one in KZ2 specially the RSV games... why people expect that KZ2 revolutionise the fps genre?? is it because its a hyped game and exclusive to PS3 so therefore it has to completely re-invent the fps genre??

If you tried the beta and like shooters then you should know as much as i do that it was slow paced but shooting was sharp, and there was a good feeling for weight for both character & weapons... also maps available were well designed for online play with open areas and corridors which create different situations & tacticts to adopt..

Malta_1980

The problem with Killzone is it has nothing to seperate it from any other console shooter out there. It's gray, looks great, has a most likely poor story, and has tried and tested online. It's got solid gameplay but it does nothing new. Games that are like this end up being good-great. Good - Great games get 7.0-8.5 scores. That is my reasoning for a A-AA ranking for Killzone 2.

Ok first i have to admit i'm one of those hyped for this game so i might be slightly biased :)

However in reply to your last comment, i also dont think KZ2 will do anything to make it stand out from the FPS crowd except for its visuals... Gray or not its the artistic approach devs thought it was fitting for the setting.. personally i think it suits perfectly since it adds more atmosphere to the whole game... As for story no FPS game (except Half-life imo) can claim to have great stories in its sp campaign... its always been get from point A to point B, shoot the living hell out of every moving object, save MR X, destroy target X or else open Gate X in order to proceed... its common in all fps games were they are ambiented during conflicts / wars.. KZ2 cannot be an exception to the rule afterall you're in a squad with the sole intention to kill as many enemies as possible and get to the final point were there leader(s) is/are and kill them to end the conflict..

So an average story in an FPS game if backed up by action-packed well paced sections, great gameplay & variety of weapons / objectives make a shooter go from Good to Great... adding maybe co-op & a varied online modes make an FPS go from Great to Excellent...

Imo KZ2 has a huge change to end up being a Great or Excellent FPS and maybe (just Maybe) be considered the best FPS available on consoles..

Half Life 2 has an ok story, Halo has a pretty good story that took it through three games and a bunch of books, Gears of War 2 had a decent story which held the players interest, Call of Duty 4 had a really good story, and shoot em ups like Max Payne had excellent stories. Bad story and bad characters can ruin a game, look at Haze for instance. It's very important for Killzone 2 to have a good story or else the game loses a lot of points. Look at all the AAA shooters, they all had a decent story.
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#57 coakroach
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I hope. I don't think so though.
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#58 Malta_1980
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HalfLife 2 has an ok story, Halo has a pretty good story that took it through three games and a bunch of books, Gears of War 2 had a decent story which held the players interest, Call of Duty 4 had a really good story, and shoot em ups like Max Payne had excellent stories. Bad story and bad characters can ruin a game, look at Haze for instance. It's very important for Killzone 2 to have a good story or else the game loses a lot of points. Look at all the AAA shooters, they all had a decent story. Toriko42

all the above games had decent stories but they are not so different from each other except the universe they are set in... enemies can vary from aliens to terrorists or else enemy soldier like in WW2 shooters... KZ2 also has an interesting story, first the conflict was on planet earth and in the sequel ISA is taking on the Helghast planet... its no MGS when it comes to plot/story but for an FPS its still interesting... anyway looks like we have a different point of view as regards KZ2 so i dont think we can completely agree but thats ok, its always nice to have a decent debate with someone on SW (without fanboyish comments)..

I just hope the final game will deliver a thrilling experience (hopefully backed with a decent story) and great online modes... am sure these should be enough to make KZ2 an amazing title which shooter fans can enjoy..