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#101 Heil68
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They proved that dropping core and going for the casual market can be profitable.
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#102 brennanhuff
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]And yet it still sells incredibly well and leads in attachment.YoshiYogurt
Can multiplats sell a system alone? I don't think so.

So which is it then moron? Either multiplats sells the system or the system has games besides multiplats. Since it has the highest attach rate and won last year in worldwide sales your entire argument is flawed by your first two posts.

Nothing to see here people...

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#103 HalcyonScarlet
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Well I just realised i'll be playing Halo 4, Forza Horizon, Crysis 3, Splinter Cell Blacklist and Darksiders 2 just for starters by the end of this year.

There are way too many great games for me to worry about whats exclusive or not. I'll leave that to The companies and fanboys.

I just haven't cared whether or not someone else gets to enjoy the games i'm playing for a really long time. I don't see why gamers need to worry about that.

MS don't give a s**t, they're the ones that encourage Xbox/PC release. I guess they see the different markets better.

If I argued about the importance of exclusives outside, i'd get laughed at, people would be like 'who cares, what are you 12?'.

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#104 kingtito
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Microsoft will fall. And let's face facts here, the PS3 was released much later than the 360 in the US and even later in Europe. If the PS3 was sold a year earlier it would have sold alot more obviously, and the Xbox would have been 3rd place as both consoles aren't very far behind now.

Davekeeh
And yet it was outsold last year WW. Your logic fails. The PS3 had 6 years and yet still couldn't pass it even with the massive market share they had the previous 2 gens. Stop making excused for the PS3 sitting in 3rd place. This discussion is not about which place any of the consoles are in.
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#105 ShadowMoses900
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PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

Most people who onw a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3 or their parents could not, so they have to make the best with what they got stuck with. They don't prefer 360, they never had a choice.

I can gurantee you that if you offered every 360 only owner out ther the chance to switch to PS3 for free, with all of their saves and multiplats going over, the majority of them would take that deal. It's the truth and we all know it.

Next gen will be interesting, consumers will either be more wiser and MS will have to offer more, or they will be dumb enough and just buy on impulse and not think about the long term.

For me its PS4 and Wii U next gen, don't care about Xbox at all. The 360 does have a great libarary of games though, it's just 1st party where it sucks in. No point in buying a 360 if you already have a PS3 unless you are a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

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#106 HalcyonScarlet
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Most people who have a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3, or their parents couldn't. Most 360 owners also had a PS2 last gen, but they got stuck with 360 this time and have to make the best of it, they don't really "prefer" 360, they never got a choice. It's the truth and everyone knows it. I honestly do not see any reason to buy a new 360 unless you are either a huge Halo fan or you love Kinect. If you don't have a good PC then maybe the 360 offers a bit more, but even then that kind of stretches it.

Next gen gamers will be more smarter, and MS will have to offer more to draw them in. No one buys a system for multiplats, no one really wants to pay for XBL they only do it because they have no choice, MS is out of touch with the consumer base. How long can people keep wanting Halo anyway? They keep making a new one like every year now, and most Halo players leave it and jump over to COD when it comes out, so you can't whine about COD milkage if MS is doing the same thing with Halo.

360 has a good library of games, no doubt about it. But it's 1st party line up offers litte reason to buy one unless if you REALLY want Halo or Gears or Kinect. Halo and Gears and most 360 games are worthless if you don't have XBL, so no point in getting one in my book. I'm not anti-360, it just doesn't offer enough to justify the purchase of one.

PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

ShadowMoses900

lol I thought the cows argued the 360 cost more. Also they've been at similar prices for quite a while now.

The lines I bolded seem like assumptions, nothing more.

Also the PS3 exclusives are high in numbers but only a small portion of them are actually system sellers. There's Uncharted (I think), MGS (although that's just the one game now) and GT (maybe one or two more).

Also, a new Halo every year? So there have been like six or seven this gen?

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#107 kingtito
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PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

Most people who onw a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3 or their parents could not, so they have to make the best with what they got stuck with. They don't prefer 360, they never had a choice.

I can gurantee you that if you offered every 360 only owner out ther the chance to switch to PS3 for free, with all of their saves and multiplats going over, the majority of them would take that deal. It's the truth and we all know it.

Next gen will be interesting, consumers will either be more wiser and MS will have to offer more, or they will be dumb enough and just buy on impulse and not think about the long term.

For me its PS4 and Wii U next gen, don't care about Xbox at all. The 360 does have a great libarary of games though, it's just 1st party where it sucks in. No point in buying a 360 if you already have a PS3 unless you are a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

ShadowMoses900
Aren't you tired of making an ass out of yourself? Didn't you already get owned with this "360 has no exclusives" stuff already? Don't you know the 360 has more games than the PS3? No I guess you don't, that's why you keep posting more nonsense every day. No "real" gamer is as narrow minded as cows, who claim to be hardcare gamers, on here and only have a PS3. "Real" gamers own all the systems unless of course you're a dumb@ss
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#108 tormentos
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NO.. They will continue to exist and win even more the xbox brand has give them more loss global than profits investors would be happy.
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#109 donalbane
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If you think Microsoft isn't working on new, unannounced games, you're tremendously naive.
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#110 randomguy15
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PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

Most people who onw a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3 or their parents could not, so they have to make the best with what they got stuck with. They don't prefer 360, they never had a choice.

I can gurantee you that if you offered every 360 only owner out ther the chance to switch to PS3 for free, with all of their saves and multiplats going over, the majority of them would take that deal. It's the truth and we all know it.

Next gen will be interesting, consumers will either be more wiser and MS will have to offer more, or they will be dumb enough and just buy on impulse and not think about the long term.

For me its PS4 and Wii U next gen, don't care about Xbox at all. The 360 does have a great libarary of games though, it's just 1st party where it sucks in. No point in buying a 360 if you already have a PS3 unless you are a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

ShadowMoses900

I would not take a PS3 if offered to switch I owned both at the same time and didn't much care for the PS3, you're always trying to justify your PS3 purchase. And you always seem to make assumptions on here and pass them as fact.

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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

Most people who onw a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3 or their parents could not, so they have to make the best with what they got stuck with. They don't prefer 360, they never had a choice.

I can gurantee you that if you offered every 360 only owner out ther the chance to switch to PS3 for free, with all of their saves and multiplats going over, the majority of them would take that deal. It's the truth and we all know it.

Next gen will be interesting, consumers will either be more wiser and MS will have to offer more, or they will be dumb enough and just buy on impulse and not think about the long term.

For me its PS4 and Wii U next gen, don't care about Xbox at all. The 360 does have a great libarary of games though, it's just 1st party where it sucks in. No point in buying a 360 if you already have a PS3 unless you are a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

kingtito
Aren't you tired of making an ass out of yourself? Didn't you already get owned with this "360 has no exclusives" stuff already? Don't you know the 360 has more games than the PS3? No I guess you don't, that's why you keep posting more nonsense every day. No "real" gamer is as narrow minded as cows, who claim to be hardcare gamers, on here and only have a PS3. "Real" gamers own all the systems unless of course you're a dumb@ss

Lol. You can't reason with cows. Let them continue to be ignorant. They slowly kill the Playstation brand with every ignorant comment. Soon Sony will be dead and they will be gone.
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And yet the 360 has had better offerings so far this year and has more for the rest of the year ... what will happen to the PS3 cows?
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And yet the 360 has had better offerings so far this year and has more for the rest of the year ... what will happen to the PS3 cows?blue_hazy_basic

Dude, what are you talking about. Everyone knows the 360 has no games and the PS3 has like...all of them. Open your eyes you silly Xbox fanboy. :P

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#114 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]And yet the 360 has had better offerings so far this year and has more for the rest of the year ... what will happen to the PS3 cows?The_Game21x

Dude, what are you talking about. Everyone knows the 360 has no games and the PS3 has like...all of them. Open your eyes you silly Xbox fanboy. :P

heh, careful you have Kuraiman coming in here ranting about hermits in lems clothes in a sec! :P
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#115 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Most people who have a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3, or their parents couldn't. Most 360 owners also had a PS2 last gen, but they got stuck with 360 this time and have to make the best of it, they don't really "prefer" 360, they never got a choice. It's the truth and everyone knows it. I honestly do not see any reason to buy a new 360 unless you are either a huge Halo fan or you love Kinect. If you don't have a good PC then maybe the 360 offers a bit more, but even then that kind of stretches it.

Next gen gamers will be more smarter, and MS will have to offer more to draw them in. No one buys a system for multiplats, no one really wants to pay for XBL they only do it because they have no choice, MS is out of touch with the consumer base. How long can people keep wanting Halo anyway? They keep making a new one like every year now, and most Halo players leave it and jump over to COD when it comes out, so you can't whine about COD milkage if MS is doing the same thing with Halo.

360 has a good library of games, no doubt about it. But it's 1st party line up offers litte reason to buy one unless if you REALLY want Halo or Gears or Kinect. Halo and Gears and most 360 games are worthless if you don't have XBL, so no point in getting one in my book. I'm not anti-360, it just doesn't offer enough to justify the purchase of one.

PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

lol I thought the cows argued the 360 cost more. Also they've been at similar prices for quite a while now.

The lines I bolded seem like assumptions, nothing more.

Also the PS3 exclusives are high in numbers but only a small portion of them are actually system sellers. There's Uncharted (I think), MGS (although that's just the one game now) and GT (maybe one or two more).

Also, a new Halo every year? So there have been like six or seven this gen?

Halo Combat Evolved HD Halo 3 Halo ODST Halo Wars Halo Reach Halo 4 (In a few months) Rumors of Halo 2 Anniversary and we don't know if Halo 5 will be on Xbox 360 or the next Xbox. We've had alot of Halo this generation with more to come.
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#116 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"][QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Not it does not. The wii and Ps3 have 3X the multiplats. YoshiYogurt
The Wii has 3x the multiplats?

I meant exclusives. The wii has no multiplats lol.

the ps3 has 2 more 8+ exclusives than the 360. what are you talking about?

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#117 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Most people who have a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3, or their parents couldn't. Most 360 owners also had a PS2 last gen, but they got stuck with 360 this time and have to make the best of it, they don't really "prefer" 360, they never got a choice. It's the truth and everyone knows it. I honestly do not see any reason to buy a new 360 unless you are either a huge Halo fan or you love Kinect. If you don't have a good PC then maybe the 360 offers a bit more, but even then that kind of stretches it.

Next gen gamers will be more smarter, and MS will have to offer more to draw them in. No one buys a system for multiplats, no one really wants to pay for XBL they only do it because they have no choice, MS is out of touch with the consumer base. How long can people keep wanting Halo anyway? They keep making a new one like every year now, and most Halo players leave it and jump over to COD when it comes out, so you can't whine about COD milkage if MS is doing the same thing with Halo.

360 has a good library of games, no doubt about it. But it's 1st party line up offers litte reason to buy one unless if you REALLY want Halo or Gears or Kinect. Halo and Gears and most 360 games are worthless if you don't have XBL, so no point in getting one in my book. I'm not anti-360, it just doesn't offer enough to justify the purchase of one.

PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

FlamesOfGrey

lol I thought the cows argued the 360 cost more. Also they've been at similar prices for quite a while now.

The lines I bolded seem like assumptions, nothing more.

Also the PS3 exclusives are high in numbers but only a small portion of them are actually system sellers. There's Uncharted (I think), MGS (although that's just the one game now) and GT (maybe one or two more).

Also, a new Halo every year? So there have been like six or seven this gen?

Halo Combat Evolved HD Halo 3 Halo ODST Halo Wars Halo Reach Halo 4 (In a few months) Rumors of Halo 2 Anniversary and we don't know if Halo 5 will be on Xbox 360 or the next Xbox. We've had alot of Halo this generation with more to come.

If you really want to count an RTS and graphical remakes.

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#118 ShadowMoses900
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Looks like I ruslted some Lem Jimmies. You know your right when that happens, whenver people get upset over something like that you know it's the truth.

Look here's the facts, ok. Look at what each system has to offer, I have a PS3, I can get all of the same multiplats 360 does (most of which play and look identical to the 360 versions) so what's the only difference sepreating the two? The exclusives, that's right.

Now when I have a PS3 and a Wii, both of which offer a ton of great exclusives. When I look at 360 here's what I see:

Halo

Gears

Fable

Forza

Witcher 2 (not really exclusive but I count it as such)

Left 4 Dead (have it on PC)

And uhh...Alan Wake (which I can now also get on PC)

So you see I'm really only left with only about 5 games in total. Keep in mind that I'm also not going to pay for XBL (not worth it for just a small handful of games, especially when I can get the same thing for FREE on PSN and PC), so that renders Halo, Gears, and Left 4 Dead all worthless.

So now I'm only left with a smaller list of games. That does not justify the purchase of a new 360. Overall the 360 libarary is great, but if you already own a PS3 there is very little reason to pick up a 360, it's just not worth it unless your a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

PS3 and Wii offer more than enough to justify getting one, even if you already own a 360.

PS3:

MGS4

Uncharted

Killzone

God of War

Star Hawk

War Hawk

Resistance

White Knight Chronicles

Heavy Rain

Demon's Souls

MAG

Yakuza

LBP

LBP Karting

PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale

Sly Cooper

Beyond Two Souls

Twisted Metal

Wii:

Mario

Mario Kart

Super Smash Bros

Zelda

F-Zero

Donkey Kong Country

Kirby

Pikmin

Poke'mon

Mad World

As you can clearly see, the PS3 and Wii offer a far more appealing reason to pick them up, even if you already own a 360 you will find more than enough exclusives on the PS3 and Wii to justify owning one.

If you already own a PS3 like I do then there is little reason to pick up a 360 at all, unless you REALLY love Halo and Kinect, and are willing to pay for XBL. If you can live without either of those things then there is no reason to even own a 360 in the first place.

It's going to make the Lems butthurt (puts on flame shield) but it's the truth and you know it. And sometimes the truth hurts. 360 is has a good library overall, but when you can already play 99% of that librayr on a PS3 then what's the point of getting a 360? Not much, unless you love Halo and Kinect of course.

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#119 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

lol I thought the cows argued the 360 cost more. Also they've been at similar prices for quite a while now.

The lines I bolded seem like assumptions, nothing more.

Also the PS3 exclusives are high in numbers but only a small portion of them are actually system sellers. There's Uncharted (I think), MGS (although that's just the one game now) and GT (maybe one or two more).

Also, a new Halo every year? So there have been like six or seven this gen?

Halo Combat Evolved HD Halo 3 Halo ODST Halo Wars Halo Reach Halo 4 (In a few months) Rumors of Halo 2 Anniversary and we don't know if Halo 5 will be on Xbox 360 or the next Xbox. We've had alot of Halo this generation with more to come.

If you really want to count an RTS and graphical remakes.

Why wouldn't you? They are games in a franchise being released. Are there special rules? God Of War is milked because Sony keeps pumping out HD Collections this generation not because of original titles of which there have only been 3 for GOW this generation. I don't see why Halo is any different.
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Looks like I ruslted some Lem Jimmies. You know your right when that happens, whenver people get upset over something like that you know it's the truth.

Look here's the facts, ok. Look at what each system has to offer, I have a PS3, I can get all of the same multiplats 360 does (most of which play and look identical to the 360 versions) so what's the only difference sepreating the two? The exclusives, that's right.

Now when I have a PS3 and a Wii, both of which offer a ton of great exclusives. When I look at 360 here's what I see:

Halo

Gears

Fable

Forza

Witcher 2 (not really exclusive but I count it as such)

Left 4 Dead (have it on PC)

And uhh...Alan Wake (which I can now also get on PC)

So you see I'm really only left with only about 5 games in total. Keep in mind that I'm also not going to pay for XBL (not worth it for just a small handful of games, especially when I can get the same thing for FREE on PSN and PC), so that renders Halo, Gears, and Left 4 Dead all worthless.

So now I'm only left with a smaller list of games. That does not justify the purchase of a new 360. Overall the 360 libarary is great, but if you already own a PS3 there is very little reason to pick up a 360, it's just not worth it unless your a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

PS3 and Wii offer more than enough to justify getting one, even if you already own a 360.

PS3:

MGS4

Uncharted

Killzone

God of War

Star Hawk

War Hawk

Resistance

White Knight Chronicles

Heavy Rain

Demon's Souls

MAG

Yakuza

LBP

LBP Karting

PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale

Sly Cooper

Beyond Two Souls

Twisted Metal

Wii:

Mario

Mario Kart

Super Smash Bros

Zelda

F-Zero

Donkey Kong Country

Kirby

Pikmin

Poke'mon

Mad World

As you can clearly see, the PS3 and Wii offer a far more appealing reason to pick them up, even if you already own a 360 you will find more than enough exclusives on the PS3 and Wii to justify owning one.

If you already own a PS3 like I do then there is little reason to pick up a 360 at all, unless you REALLY love Halo and Kinect, and are willing to pay for XBL. If you can live without either of those things then there is no reason to even own a 360 in the first place.

It's going to make the Lems butthurt (puts on flame shield) but it's the truth and you know it. And sometimes the truth hurts. 360 is has a good library overall, but when you can already play 99% of that librayr on a PS3 then what's the point of getting a 360? Not much, unless you love Halo and Kinect of course.

ShadowMoses900

why do you have a pretty exhaustive list of ps3 games while leaving out a large chunk of the 360's high scoring exclusive library? you know the ps3 has only something like 2 more high scoring exclusives than the 360, right?

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No, they lack games but they have lemmings. Lemmings don't like games so they'll help M$ continue successfully.
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Looks like I ruslted some Lem Jimmies. You know your right when that happens, whenver people get upset over something like that you know it's the truth.

Look here's the facts, ok. Look at what each system has to offer, I have a PS3, I can get all of the same multiplats 360 does (most of which play and look identical to the 360 versions) so what's the only difference sepreating the two? The exclusives, that's right.

Now when I have a PS3 and a Wii, both of which offer a ton of great exclusives. When I look at 360 here's what I see:

Halo

Gears

Fable

Forza

Witcher 2 (not really exclusive but I count it as such)

Left 4 Dead (have it on PC)

And uhh...Alan Wake (which I can now also get on PC)

So you see I'm really only left with only about 5 games in total. Keep in mind that I'm also not going to pay for XBL (not worth it for just a small handful of games, especially when I can get the same thing for FREE on PSN and PC), so that renders Halo, Gears, and Left 4 Dead all worthless.

So now I'm only left with a smaller list of games. That does not justify the purchase of a new 360. Overall the 360 libarary is great, but if you already own a PS3 there is very little reason to pick up a 360, it's just not worth it unless your a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

PS3 and Wii offer more than enough to justify getting one, even if you already own a 360.

PS3:

MGS4

Uncharted

Killzone

God of War

Star Hawk

War Hawk

Resistance

White Knight Chronicles

Heavy Rain

Demon's Souls

MAG

Yakuza

LBP

LBP Karting

PlayStation All Stars Battle Royale

Sly Cooper

Beyond Two Souls

Twisted Metal

Wii:

Mario

Mario Kart

Super Smash Bros

Zelda

F-Zero

Donkey Kong Country

Kirby

Pikmin

Poke'mon

Mad World

As you can clearly see, the PS3 and Wii offer a far more appealing reason to pick them up, even if you already own a 360 you will find more than enough exclusives on the PS3 and Wii to justify owning one.

If you already own a PS3 like I do then there is little reason to pick up a 360 at all, unless you REALLY love Halo and Kinect, and are willing to pay for XBL. If you can live without either of those things then there is no reason to even own a 360 in the first place.

It's going to make the Lems butthurt (puts on flame shield) but it's the truth and you know it. And sometimes the truth hurts. 360 is has a good library overall, but when you can already play 99% of that librayr on a PS3 then what's the point of getting a 360? Not much, unless you love Halo and Kinect of course.

ShadowMoses900

Did you miss retail A+ 360 exclusives like DOA4, PGR3 and 4, Kameo, Banjo N&B, Viva Pinata 2, Ace Combat 6, Death Smiles, Akai Katana, Crackdown 1 and 2, Stoked, Race Pro, Chromehounds, Amped 3 and Lost Odyssey on purpose?

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#124 The_Game21x
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No, they lack games but they have lemmings. Lemmings don't like games so they'll help M$ continue successfully.kuraimen

"Lemmings" don't like games? Is that why software sales are usually higher on the 360?

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#125 kuraimen
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]No, they lack games but they have lemmings. Lemmings don't like games so they'll help M$ continue successfully.The_Game21x

"Lemmings" don't like games? Is that why software sales are usually higher on the 360?

Kinect =/= games
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#126 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="HalcyonScarlet"]

[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"] Halo Combat Evolved HD Halo 3 Halo ODST Halo Wars Halo Reach Halo 4 (In a few months) Rumors of Halo 2 Anniversary and we don't know if Halo 5 will be on Xbox 360 or the next Xbox. We've had alot of Halo this generation with more to come.FlamesOfGrey

If you really want to count an RTS and graphical remakes.

Why wouldn't you? They are games in a franchise being released. Are there special rules? God Of War is milked because Sony keeps pumping out HD Collections this generation not because of original titles of which there have only been 3 for GOW this generation. I don't see why Halo is any different.

They might be milking the franchise but they aren't making new fps every year. Maybe some people try and count the HD remakes, but I don't. It's up to the individual I guess. I just don't look at the filler games like that.

It's not quite the same as Activision having multiple devs alternately churning out a new fps every year.

Like when people say Nintendo are milking Mario, yeah they might have whore him out on a load of random games, but it's not quite the same thing as his main games.

I'm not arguing with you just really putting my perspective on the idea forwards. Like if they made an Uncharted racing game, I wouldn't count that really. If other people want that's cool I guess.

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#127 HalcyonScarlet
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Looks like I ruslted some Lem Jimmies. You know your right when that happens, whenver people get upset over something like that you know it's the truth.

ShadowMoses900

:lol: whatever you say. Someone responds and they're all lil upset Jimmies because they know it's the truth. :)

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#128 Heil68
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And yet the 360 has had better offerings so far this year and has more for the rest of the year ... what will happen to the PS3 cows?blue_hazy_basic
continue to enjoy the barn bursting amount of world class, high scoring games available for the PS tripple brother!
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#129 Michael0134567
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It's amazing how fanboys can't do the research.

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#130 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="kuraimen"]No, they lack games but they have lemmings. Lemmings don't like games so they'll help M$ continue successfully.kuraimen

"Lemmings" don't like games? Is that why software sales are usually higher on the 360?

Kinect =/= games

Actually, Kinect games are games too. :)

But even if you take Kinect games out of the equation, the 360 still sells more software than the PS3 when comparing exclusives and multiplats. :D

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#131 HalcyonScarlet
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"]No, they lack games but they have lemmings. Lemmings don't like games so they'll help M$ continue successfully.The_Game21x

"Lemmings" don't like games? Is that why software sales are usually higher on the 360?

I wonder if to cows multiplats are like these soulless, spinning turds that are an insult to the media they're printed on because the developer wasn't bought out by one of the big three. :P

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#132 YoshiYogurt
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"The 360 has no games besides..." Man I love it when fanboys use that line.

Anyway, the 360 is doing fine with its "no games". In the real world, the 360 has plenty of games. Besides, if the 360 is doing better than its competitors with "no games" that says more about the competitors than the 360.

The_Game21x
Show me all these "plenty of games." Halo 4 is the only game to come out this year besides that horrible crash and burn of steel battalion.
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#133 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

"Lemmings" don't like games? Is that why software sales are usually higher on the 360?

The_Game21x

Kinect =/= games

Actually, Kinect games are games too. :)

But even if you take Kinect games out of the equation, the 360 still sells more software than the PS3 when comparing exclusives and multiplats. :D

Kinect games are not games,silly...They're uhhh.....
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#134 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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No games topic #209876. Nothing to see here people.
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#135 Heil68
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No games topic #209876. Nothing to see here people.Stevo_the_gamer
Yea, we need more useless pie charts and people with underwear on their head. :P
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#136 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]No games topic #209876. Nothing to see here people.Heil68
Yea, we need more useless pie charts and people with underwear on their head. :P

:lol:
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#137 HalcyonScarlet
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No games topic #209876. Nothing to see here people.Stevo_the_gamer

I guess it beats out topic number 518481 'why does xblg cost'.

:D Progress :cool:

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#138 PAL360
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

"The 360 has no games besides..." Man I love it when fanboys use that line.

Anyway, the 360 is doing fine with its "no games". In the real world, the 360 has plenty of games. Besides, if the 360 is doing better than its competitors with "no games" that says more about the competitors than the 360.

YoshiYogurt

Show me all these "plenty of games." Halo 4 is the only game to come out this year besides that horrible crash and burn of steel battalion.

Already out: Trials Evolution, Minecraft, The Witcher 2, Fez, Spelunky, Sine Mora and Akai Katana.

Coming soon: Deadlight, Dust Elysian Tail, Happy Wars, Forza Horizon, etc.

Not counting 360/PS3 multiplats, obviously.

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#139 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]No games topic #209876. Nothing to see here people.Heil68
Yea, we need more useless pie charts and people with underwear on their head. :P

Unequivocally, pie charts are at times a requisite due to the incompetent requiring clear hand-holding directionality. What does that better than a clear graph?
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#140 YoshiYogurt
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[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

"The 360 has no games besides..." Man I love it when fanboys use that line.

Anyway, the 360 is doing fine with its "no games". In the real world, the 360 has plenty of games. Besides, if the 360 is doing better than its competitors with "no games" that says more about the competitors than the 360.

PAL360

Show me all these "plenty of games." Halo 4 is the only game to come out this year besides that horrible crash and burn of steel battalion.

Already out: Trials Evolution, Minecraft, The Witcher 2, Fez, Spelunky, Sine Mora and Akai Katana.

Coming soon: Deadlight, Dust Elysian Tail, Happy Wars, Forza Horizon, etc.

Not counting 360/PS3 multiplats, obviously.

Minecraft and the Witcher 2 are both inferior PC ports. The rest are fair game however, but none of them interest me. The 360 does well with XBLA, but everything is too expensive and never goes on sale.
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#141 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="YoshiYogurt"] Show me all these "plenty of games." Halo 4 is the only game to come out this year besides that horrible crash and burn of steel battalion. YoshiYogurt

Already out: Trials Evolution, Minecraft, The Witcher 2, Fez, Spelunky, Sine Mora and Akai Katana.

Coming soon: Deadlight, Dust Elysian Tail, Happy Wars, Forza Horizon, etc.

Not counting 360/PS3 multiplats, obviously.

Minecraft and the Witcher 2 are both inferior PC ports. The rest are fair game however, but none of them interest me. The 360 does well with XBLA, but everything is too expensive and never goes on sale.

PC ports, Xbla, retail exclusives.....

I posted 360 games and answered your question.

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#142 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]No games topic #209876. Nothing to see here people.Stevo_the_gamer
Yea, we need more useless pie charts and people with underwear on their head. :P

Unequivocally, pie charts are at times a requisite due to the incompetent requiring clear hand-holding directionality. What does that better than a clear graph?

I see you point and it's an interesting take on the situation at hand, I have traced this question back to the computer game. Computer games are a fun medium and provide the means for an individual to become computer literate through the engagement of spatial learning and cognitive processing abilities. Since such games are marketed almost exclusively to males, females have a distinct disadvantage. Males are more computer literate through the playing of computer games, and are provided with an easy lead-in to more advanced utilization of computers such as programming. Females tend to be turned off due to the male stereotypes and marketing associated with games and thus begins the gender gap.
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#143 apocalypsehorse
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

PS3 offers more than enough exclusives to justify the purchase, the Wii offers more than enough exclusives to jusitfy the purchase, the 360 sadly does not.

Most people who onw a 360 only do so because they could not afford a PS3 or their parents could not, so they have to make the best with what they got stuck with. They don't prefer 360, they never had a choice.

I can gurantee you that if you offered every 360 only owner out ther the chance to switch to PS3 for free, with all of their saves and multiplats going over, the majority of them would take that deal. It's the truth and we all know it.

Next gen will be interesting, consumers will either be more wiser and MS will have to offer more, or they will be dumb enough and just buy on impulse and not think about the long term.

For me its PS4 and Wii U next gen, don't care about Xbox at all. The 360 does have a great libarary of games though, it's just 1st party where it sucks in. No point in buying a 360 if you already have a PS3 unless you are a hardcore Halo or Kinect fan.

kingtito

Aren't you tired of making an ass out of yourself? Didn't you already get owned with this "360 has no exclusives" stuff already? Don't you know the 360 has more games than the PS3? No I guess you don't, that's why you keep posting more nonsense every day. No "real" gamer is as narrow minded as cows, who claim to be hardcare gamers, on here and only have a PS3. "Real" gamers own all the systems unless of course you're a dumb@ss

or your poor and trying to justify your purchase by saying the other systems are crap because you don't want to admit you may have made a mistake...

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#144 marklarmer
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Heil68"] Yea, we need more useless pie charts and people with underwear on their head. :P Heil68
Unequivocally, pie charts are at times a requisite due to the incompetent requiring clear hand-holding directionality. What does that better than a clear graph?

I see you point and it's an interesting take on the situation at hand, I have traced this question back to the computer game. Computer games are a fun medium and provide the means for an individual to become computer literate through the engagement of spatial learning and cognitive processing abilities. Since such games are marketed almost exclusively to males, females have a distinct disadvantage. Males are more computer literate through the playing of computer games, and are provided with an easy lead-in to more advanced utilization of computers such as programming. Females tend to be turned off due to the male stereotypes and marketing associated with games and thus begins the gender gap.

i love how you copy and pasted all of that except one sentence, which you couldn't even get right.

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#145 Nonstop-Madness
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The only issue I see with Microsoft and the 720 is that they will need to differentiate themselves from the Wii U and PS4. Im fairly certain all next gen consoles will have apps like Hulu, Netflix etc. They'll probably have all of the same 3rd party games (that depends on whether Nintendo can pull it off). Microsoft is going to have to come out next gen and take hold of third party developers with exclusive XBL content (includes DLC). Microsoft doesn't not have the 1st party to play catchup with Nintendo or Sony.
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#146 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] Unequivocally, pie charts are at times a requisite due to the incompetent requiring clear hand-holding directionality. What does that better than a clear graph?marklarmer

I see you point and it's an interesting take on the situation at hand, I have traced this question back to the computer game. Computer games are a fun medium and provide the means for an individual to become computer literate through the engagement of spatial learning and cognitive processing abilities. Since such games are marketed almost exclusively to males, females have a distinct disadvantage. Males are more computer literate through the playing of computer games, and are provided with an easy lead-in to more advanced utilization of computers such as programming. Females tend to be turned off due to the male stereotypes and marketing associated with games and thus begins the gender gap.

i love how you copy and pasted all of that except one sentence, which you couldn't even get right.

:lol:

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#147 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] Unequivocally, pie charts are at times a requisite due to the incompetent requiring clear hand-holding directionality. What does that better than a clear graph?marklarmer

I see you point and it's an interesting take on the situation at hand, I have traced this question back to the computer game. Computer games are a fun medium and provide the means for an individual to become computer literate through the engagement of spatial learning and cognitive processing abilities. Since such games are marketed almost exclusively to males, females have a distinct disadvantage. Males are more computer literate through the playing of computer games, and are provided with an easy lead-in to more advanced utilization of computers such as programming. Females tend to be turned off due to the male stereotypes and marketing associated with games and thus begins the gender gap.

i love how you copy and pasted all of that except one sentence, which you couldn't even get right.

You seem jaded and unhappy Mark, is there something on your mind? I have sent a friend request so we can put this tnesion behind us and move on.
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#148 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] Unequivocally, pie charts are at times a requisite due to the incompetent requiring clear hand-holding directionality. What does that better than a clear graph?marklarmer

I see you point and it's an interesting take on the situation at hand, I have traced this question back to the computer game. Computer games are a fun medium and provide the means for an individual to become computer literate through the engagement of spatial learning and cognitive processing abilities. Since such games are marketed almost exclusively to males, females have a distinct disadvantage. Males are more computer literate through the playing of computer games, and are provided with an easy lead-in to more advanced utilization of computers such as programming. Females tend to be turned off due to the male stereotypes and marketing associated with games and thus begins the gender gap.

i love how you copy and pasted all of that except one sentence, which you couldn't even get right.

lol.
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#149 Pug-Nasty
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[QUOTE="Pug-Nasty"]

Windows is essentially the same OS with each iteration, and comes with the same problems. They need a complete overhaul of the code to get rid of these problems, but they don't do it because it would damage compatibility with previous OS's, current programs, and would make a lot of current users think twice about another Windows based system since they would have to buy all new software anyway.

I didn't say OSX. That is already a viable option for consumers. Linux isn't viable because it is open source and thus is not a consistent product, if one can even call it a product as it is.

A new software developer needs to come into play, whose arrival would preferably bring a new set of standards that would allow compatibility between multiple operating systems. Consumers always win when there are options, and the options right now are sorely lacking.

jun_aka_pekto

I'm curious. What are some examples of these problems?

Programs freezing and malware. These are the main issues I have. I also have issues with Windows update, as in I deselect all the updates but they still install. It's kind of annoying.

Windows 7is much better with the programs freezing, though, as you usually still maintain control over the PC and it's just the one program that freezes.

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Someone's jelly