Will next gen consoles be able to do this? no 56k or Crysis

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#1 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Do you think this is what next gen consoles will produce? Or will they surpass these pictures? Keep in mind, people with mid range PCs DO play at these settings and no, it's not laggy :P

http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=468597&st=2240

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#2 funsohng
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I hope some day, we get a month where someone doesn't make these GTA4 mod thread.
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#3 GhoX
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I need to replay GTA4 with those mods at some point, after a long queue of games for the rest of the year!
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#4 C_Rule
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K, someone give me a 6970 so I can play GTA IV with those mods... Unless those also fix R* mess of a game (not just graphics), you want get that on a mid-range PC.
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#5 NanoMan88
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I hope some day, we get a month where someone doesn't make these GTA4 mod thread.funsohng

But thread upon thread of minor differences between a 360 and ps3 multiplatform is okay?

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#6 dontshackzmii
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so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

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#7 funsohng
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[QUOTE="funsohng"]I hope some day, we get a month where someone doesn't make these GTA4 mod thread.NanoMan88

But thread upon thread of minor differences between a 360 and ps3 multiplatform is okay?

Never said I would tolerate those. But seriously, these looked cool before. Now, it's like spamming Crysis pics and saying "PC is BETTER!!!!11111!!!". At least the PS3 vs. 360 comparison threads are based on different games. If they are not... I don't know what the hell the mods are doing not locking them. But you know. They are mods.
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#8 C_Rule
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so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

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Sounds like you're just not playing the right games.
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#9 GhoX
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so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

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Sounds like jelly.
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#10 Phoenix534
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I next gen will probably look a little bit better than that, but I have a feeling that next gen will focus more on getting all games to run at 1080p with 120FPS. Graphical advancements will probably take backseat to performance enhancements next gen.

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so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

dontshackzmii

No. But if you did then why would it matter? 'High-end' PC gaming is pretty much all about the customisation IMO.

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#12 Cranler
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I next gen will probably look a little bit better than that, but I have a feeling that next gen will focus more on getting all games to run at 1080p with 120FPS. Graphical advancements will probably take backseat to performance enhancements next gen.

Phoenix534
120fps? No, plain and simple
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#13 soulitane
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I still hate the look of the trees :evil:
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#14 _VenomX
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I next gen will probably look a little bit better than that, but I have a feeling that next gen will focus more on getting all games to run at 1080p with 120FPS. Graphical advancements will probably take backseat to performance enhancements next gen.

Phoenix534
I'll take 60 anywhere :P
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#15 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

I next gen will probably look a little bit better than that, but I have a feeling that next gen will focus more on getting all games to run at 1080p with 120FPS. Graphical advancements will probably take backseat to performance enhancements next gen.

_VenomX

I'll take 60 anywhere :P

If we can get 60 to become the new 30 and 120 to become the new 60, I'll be satisfied.

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#16 topgunmv
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Meh, I prefer spooky metro pictures.

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#17 Phoenix534
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Meh, I prefer spooky metro pictures.

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Metro 2033 is freaking awesome. I need some Last Light soon.

And this is what I want more of next gen. Graphics this gen have looked awesome, but a lot of the really great looking games don't have a good atmosphere.

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#18 C_Rule
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Meh, I prefer spooky metro pictures.

Phoenix534

Metro 2033 is freaking awesome. I need some Last Light soon.

And this is what I want more of next gen. Graphics this gen have looked awesome, but a lot of the really great looking games don't have a good atmosphere.

I know what you mean. I went outside the other day, the graphics were probably the best I've seen. But, I found the gameplay really bad.
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#20 Teuf_
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They had better do a whole lot better than a bunch of photo textures slapped on some buildings and cars. ;)

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#21 Teuf_
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They had better do a whole lot better than a bunch of photo textures slapped on some buildings. ;)

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#22 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

dontshackzmii
So would you buy the best looking games on consoles (UC2, C2, KZ3) or would you buy Haze or Halo 3?
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#23 soulitane
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

ocstew
So would you buy the best looking games on consoles (UC2, C2, KZ3) or would you buy Haze or Halo 3?

Personally I would buy halo 3 out of them, to me it's the far better game.
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#24 R4gn4r0k
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so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

dontshackzmii

You don't NEED to do anything, you have the possibility, that's the beauty of PC gaming.

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#25 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

soulitane
So would you buy the best looking games on consoles (UC2, C2, KZ3) or would you buy Haze or Halo 3?

Personally I would buy halo 3 out of them, to me it's the far better game.

Graphics wise :P
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#26 soulitane
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[QUOTE="ocstew"][QUOTE="soulitane"][QUOTE="ocstew"] So would you buy the best looking games on consoles (UC2, C2, KZ3) or would you buy Haze or Halo 3?

Personally I would buy halo 3 out of them, to me it's the far better game.

Graphics wise :P

Well I don't buy based on graphics alone and I had the most fun with halo out of those :P
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#28 gamebreakerz__
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GTAIV on PC is the most poorly optimized piece of trash I have ever seen. If you add all the mods it looks brilliant, but still runs like crap unless you're using very powerful dual cards. Add to that it has NO ANTI-ALIASING, and it can only be achieved through a pretty average mod which effectively doubling your resolution then compressing the image, crippling the framerate and only achieving 2x AA. I'm sorry but GTAIV on PC is a joke, jaggies are everywhere.
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#29 SaltyMeatballs
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I doubt next gen, the PC you need to play that I expect is a powerful one with multiple GPU's or the best GPU right now... which consoles won't have.
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#30 NoodleFighter
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

Meh, I prefer spooky metro pictures.

C_Rule

Metro 2033 is freaking awesome. I need some Last Light soon.

And this is what I want more of next gen. Graphics this gen have looked awesome, but a lot of the really great looking games don't have a good atmosphere.

I know what you mean. I went outside the other day, the graphics were probably the best I've seen. But, I found the gameplay really bad.

I know some cruddy lady AI rejected my love :cry:So I capped one in her head :evil:

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#31 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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GTAIV on PC is the most poorly optimized piece of trash I have ever seen. If you add all the mods it looks brilliant, but still runs like crap unless you're using very powerful dual cards. Add to that it has NO ANTI-ALIASING, and it can only be achieved through a pretty average mod which effectively doubling your resolution then compressing the image, crippling the framerate and only achieving 2x AA. I'm sorry but GTAIV on PC is a joke, jaggies are everywhere.gamebreakerz__
TBH, it's supersampling. 2x SSAA is equivalent to all the MSAA in the world when you have textures like wire fences and lines everywhere. To be fair, most PC gamers don't understand why it doesn't have AA, and just hate on the game. Its because its using a fully deffered render, which in 2008 had limitations that had not been solved, meaning AA couldn't be used. And actually, the game runs fine on even a 5770 and a high end dual core. Can I ask what settings you run it at and at what fps?
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I next gen will probably look a little bit better than that, but I have a feeling that next gen will focus more on getting all games to run at 1080p with 120FPS. Graphical advancements will probably take backseat to performance enhancements next gen.

Phoenix534

One can only hope so...

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#33 HaloinventedFPS
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yeah im sure next gen consoles will be better than that

but PC's of course will still be tons better

PC will be close to photorealistic late next gen due to ray tracing, John Carmack has talked about it, next gen PC hardware could do it, but we may not see any games use it thanks to consoles holding PC back, Blizzard or Valve will be the only ones that could do it, Valve may, i doubt Blizzard will

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#34 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Why would anyone want 120 FPS? Hell 60 FPS is already extremely smooth. Add in some Crysis motion blur and you've got the smoothest game around
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GTAIV on PC is the most poorly optimized piece of trash I have ever seen. If you add all the mods it looks brilliant, but still runs like crap unless you're using very powerful dual cards. Add to that it has NO ANTI-ALIASING, and it can only be achieved through a pretty average mod which effectively doubling your resolution then compressing the image, crippling the framerate and only achieving 2x AA. I'm sorry but GTAIV on PC is a joke, jaggies are everywhere.gamebreakerz__
\ wohohooooo We got a winner here. total rampage. For one GTA IV (the last i heard) dose not support Multi GPU Setups. 2nd like the guy below me said a high end CPU and a Decent GPU is all you need to play this game. For me im using an E8400 and a ATI 4870 (512MB LOL sucks i know) when i have the GPU set at its standard clocks i usually get between 40-60FPS depending on where im at in the game. and online i get even more FPS (without all the AI) so saying you need some sort of powerful system to run this game and that the PC version is a joke is wrong. also i play at 1440x900 and i never see any jagged edges. perhaps its because your on a laptop?
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#36 TheAcountantMan
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That does looks pretty good, and yes, personally i think we will see next gen display graphics that look as good as those pics.
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#37 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]GTAIV on PC is the most poorly optimized piece of trash I have ever seen. If you add all the mods it looks brilliant, but still runs like crap unless you're using very powerful dual cards. Add to that it has NO ANTI-ALIASING, and it can only be achieved through a pretty average mod which effectively doubling your resolution then compressing the image, crippling the framerate and only achieving 2x AA. I'm sorry but GTAIV on PC is a joke, jaggies are everywhere.hofuldig
\ wohohooooo We got a winner here. total rampage. For one GTA IV (the last i heard) dose not support Multi GPU Setups. 2nd like the guy below me said a high end CPU and a Decent GPU is all you need to play this game. For me im using an E8400 and a ATI 4870 (512MB LOL sucks i know) when i have the GPU set at its standard clocks i usually get between 40-60FPS depending on where im at in the game. and online i get even more FPS (without all the AI) so saying you need some sort of powerful system to run this game and that the PC version is a joke is wrong. also i play at 1440x900 and i never see any jagged edges. perhaps its because your on a laptop?

Probably. That mobility 460 is probably weaker than your 4870.
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#39 ManicAce
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Looks amazing, but GTA4 is still the last game I'd bring up in a graphics discussion, on consoles it looks like crap and on PC it runs like crap, take your pick.
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#40 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Looks amazing, but GTA4 is still the last game I'd bring up in a graphics discussion, on consoles it looks like crap and on PC it runs like crap, take your pick.ManicAce
For near photorealism minus the pedestrians, I'd say crap performance is expected.
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Why would anyone want 120 FPS? Hell 60 FPS is already extremely smooth. Add in some Crysis motion blur and you've got the smoothest game aroundocstew

Not to mention the adoption rates on TVs that take 120hz input signals are extremely low (even if advertised as 120Hz), so there isn't much of a point in sacrificing anything to reach that goal on consoles since for most people the extra frames will be wasted. Reaching the goal of 60fps however, is highly desirable.

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GTAIV on PC is the most poorly optimized piece of trash I have ever seen. If you add all the mods it looks brilliant, but still runs like crap unless you're using very powerful dual cards. Add to that it has NO ANTI-ALIASING, and it can only be achieved through a pretty average mod which effectively doubling your resolution then compressing the image, crippling the framerate and only achieving 2x AA. I'm sorry but GTAIV on PC is a joke, jaggies are everywhere.gamebreakerz__
MLAA brah ,
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I hope some day, we get a month where someone doesn't make these GTA4 mod thread.funsohng
Dont bet on it... its bad enough gta4 was massively dissapointing, but now we get to look at jaggy mods.
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The game looks really horrible on PC, and not at all like the pics you posted. What mod is that?
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I doubt it very much. If I want that kind of realism, I'll go outside.

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[QUOTE="gamebreakerz__"]GTAIV on PC is the most poorly optimized piece of trash I have ever seen. If you add all the mods it looks brilliant, but still runs like crap unless you're using very powerful dual cards. Add to that it has NO ANTI-ALIASING, and it can only be achieved through a pretty average mod which effectively doubling your resolution then compressing the image, crippling the framerate and only achieving 2x AA. I'm sorry but GTAIV on PC is a joke, jaggies are everywhere.kickass1337
MLAA brah ,

Not everyone has MLAA. GTAIV is in a city, which means it's full of straight edges. Consoles try and fix that by putting horrible blur everywhere, which you can enable in the PC version, but it looks terrible. That is my biggest complaint about GTAIV. I wouldn't be bothered by the poor optimisation if the game actually looked like it was using hardware to the max.
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#47 kraken2109
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The game looks really horrible on PC, and not at all like the pics you posted. What mod is that?Mystery_Writer
It's not PC, the game looks horrible on all platforms.
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#48 xsubtownerx
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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

so i need to mod games just to take advantage of my systems power? High end pc is going pretty much no where these days.

C_Rule
Sounds like you're just not playing the right games.

Only a handful of games so far that take advantage of my PC specs. I'm with don on this one.
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#49 turtlethetaffer
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I'd imagine that they will be better.