Will Playstation be huge next gen? (poll)

Past Mistakes

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Launch Price $600

Blu-Ray took up too much budget, forcing PS3 development to use crappy GPU and terrible architecture

Terrible architecture made third-party devs struggle to make competent products

Crappy GPU made multiplats look worse

New Developments in Gaming

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Off-the-shelf hardware is cheap and powerful

Blu-Ray prices have come down alot

Steam makes PC Gaming more attractive

Kinect has pulled Xbox away from core gaming

Results (why the above makes PS4 likely to be better)

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Architecture likely to be competent (because Sony didn't design it)

Blu-Ray won't take up half the build budget

Game development cheaper and more competent (because the architecture is competent)

Xbox lack of core exclusive IP's, focus on Kinect 2.0 and XBL fees alienate core gamers (will do just fine selling to casuals)

PC Gaming focus makes Playstation the better companion console, if you can play most multiplats on Steam, why the hell would you need an Xbox only for Gears/Halo?

How it might go down

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360 (Kinect) picks up casuals from dying Wii

Wii U initially stumbles but manages to pick up casual and classic gamers as the library fills out

720 will take the adult casuals

WiiU will take the younger gamers and classic gamers

PS4 picks up core console gamers

Steam + PS4 become de facto standard for hardcore gamers

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That is my assessment of the gaming market, do you agree or disagree?

It depends if SCEA gets their sh*t together. If not, it'll be hard for them.

Im sure they have learned a lot from this gen.. im glad that they will end the current gen with a bang! PS3 been an amazing console, heck the best console i ever owned and truly looking forward to the next playstation! GOD this year is truly exciting

Nope, small and insignificant just like they were last gen. ;)

Depends on how much they'll try to sell out to the casual audience, just like MS and Nintendo did at respective times in this generation

We've seen what gaming has become when the other two clowns are running the show.  As long as Sony doesn't announce MoveStation 4, they have a real chance at capturing their old magic.

Don't expect a PS2 like success again. Ever. TheDidact

[QUOTE="TheDidact"]Don't expect a PS2 like success again. Ever. Shewgenja

He means it won't sell 150M+.

 PS4

hardcore gamers

LazySloth718

Pick one.

Don't expect a PS2 like success again. Ever. TheDidact

Yes. I'm primarily a PC gamer but I've held on to my PS3 this whole gen because of their great exclusives and free online. As long as that keeps up through next gen, then I'm sure I'll have a PS4 for a while.

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

PS4

hardcore gamers

Primordialous

Pick one.

Halo and Gears are casual retreats.

PS4 is the only next gen console that matters.  :cool:

Kinect 2.0.

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

PS4

hardcore gamers

StrongBlackVine

Pick one.

Halo and Gears are casual retreats.

Did I even mention the Xbox? No.

perhaps. The PS3 being a large disappointment compared to the PS2 and the PS Vita currently failing miserably leave me doubtful.

as long as they learned you don't release a console then not have a decient library on it for the following 3 years it will do better than the ps3 did.

About the same or slightly worse.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

Pick one.

Primordialous

 Halo and Gears are casual retreats.

Did I even mention the Xbox? No.

WoW is hardcore

lol

I plan to keep my PS3 longer. That means I may buy a 720 first. But, I'm not biting until prices hit $300.

as long as they learned you don't release a console then not have a decient library on it for the following 3 years it will do better than the ps3 did.

Riverwolf007

I bought my ps3 in 2008, it was $400, and after playing heavenly sword at gamestop kiosk it really caught my eye. Being a pc only gamer during gen 6, it was the first console bought since buying the PS1 back in 97'. When 2 AAAA games came out back to back MGS4, and GTA4 and GTA wasn't announced for the PC... well I had to have it. And I was glad i did. It has remained my goto Console of choice. A device to complement my other top platforms, pc and psp at the time.

If Sony keeps releasing the great games, and more quirky JP games and jrpgs come over to the system then it will remain a core gamers paradise, and maybe attempt to be as phenomenal as my coveted console of all time the ps1.

I plan to keep my PS3 longer. That means I may buy a 720 first. But, I'm not biting until prices hit $300.

jun_aka_pekto

Well PS3 is supposed to be supported for a full 10 years so might be a good idea to wait on price drops.

Not sure what the 720 will have to offer.

It better be good, because I'm already inclined not to buy it because of how bad Xbox was this gen.

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I plan to keep my PS3 longer. That means I may buy a 720 first. But, I'm not biting until prices hit $300.

LazySloth718

Well PS3 is supposed to be supported for a full 10 years so might be a good idea to wait on price drops.

Not sure what the 720 will have to offer.

It better be good, because I'm already inclined not to buy it because of how bad Xbox was this gen.

I was planning the same pattern for this gen. I intended to use the PS2 longer (which I did) and buy a 360.  The RROD scare is what prompted me to buy a PS3 instead. Well, that plus I liked the PS3 exclusives a tad bit more. But, I would think MS learned its lesson and won't make the same mistake for the 720.

We'll see. We really haven't seen anything concrete about the two next-gen consoles yet. I do stand by the $300 limit for each one.

I think they will. The $599 price point (with the rumored 800 dollars it costed to make the console) hurt them big time in the beginning of this gen. That was mainly because of blu-ray, but I think this gen they will have much more consumer friendly price (~$399) and they'll be sure to have plenty of great exclusive titles. Also their online network has been getting better and better. I think they will be in good shape again next gen barring any surprises

PS4 must take advantage on wiiU failurehippiesanta

a little early don't you think?? It's only been out 2 months

hmm...approximately 16" wide...9" deep and 3" inches thick....a pygmy by any standard

The dominant force, it's the only answer.

Just make a Small, Medium, Large, and X-large controller Sony, then you rule the industry once more. =P

They may win, I hope they do, but I expect they still will only sell as much as the PS3 or less. No system, besides the mobile phones will ever reach 150 mil again.

it will be for me just like it was this gen PS4 will be the only system that matters AGAINOldSnake-PS3

A new Cow is born..

They may win, I hope they do, but I expect they still will only sell as much as the PS3 or less. No system, besides the mobile phones will ever reach 150 mil again.

 

[QUOTE="OldSnake-PS3"]it will be for me just like it was this gen PS4 will be the only system that matters AGAINlayton2012

A new Cow is born..

Just make a Small, Medium, Large, and X-large controller Sony, then you rule the industry once more. =P

crimsonman1245

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I plan to keep my PS3 longer. That means I may buy a 720 first. But, I'm not biting until prices hit $300.

LazySloth718

Well PS3 is supposed to be supported for a full 10 years so might be a good idea to wait on price drops.

Not sure what the 720 will have to offer.

It better be good, because I'm already inclined not to buy it because of how bad Xbox was this gen.

If Xbox was bad this gen, then PS3 was even worse.

I mean, seriously- Sony took a huge step down from the PS2 this gen.

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

[QUOTE="jun_aka_pekto"]

I plan to keep my PS3 longer. That means I may buy a 720 first. But, I'm not biting until prices hit $300.

Primordialous

Well PS3 is supposed to be supported for a full 10 years so might be a good idea to wait on price drops.

Not sure what the 720 will have to offer.

It better be good, because I'm already inclined not to buy it because of how bad Xbox was this gen.

If Xbox was bad this gen, then PS3 was even worse.

I mean, seriously- Sony took a huge step down from the PS2 this gen.

comparing current libraries, I'd say they were neck and neck until Microsoft decided to have you dance infront of your tv.

lol sony never learned ---psvita any one ,  

ya i dont think so ps4 will be lucky to outsell wiius current pace lol 

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Well PS3 is supposed to be supported for a full 10 years so might be a good idea to wait on price drops.

Not sure what the 720 will have to offer.

It better be good, because I'm already inclined not to buy it because of how bad Xbox was this gen.

ReadingRainbow4

If Xbox was bad this gen, then PS3 was even worse.

I mean, seriously- Sony took a huge step down from the PS2 this gen.

comparing current libraries, I'd say they were neck and neck until Microsoft decided to have you dance infront of your tv.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="Primordialous"]

If Xbox was bad this gen, then PS3 was even worse.

I mean, seriously- Sony took a huge step down from the PS2 this gen.

StaticOnTV

comparing current libraries, I'd say they were neck and neck until Microsoft decided to have you dance infront of your tv.

So fable the journey never happened?

[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

comparing current libraries, I'd say they were neck and neck until Microsoft decided to have you dance infront of your tv.

ReadingRainbow4

So fable the journey never happened?

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"] Where were the Kinect games in 2012????? nOWHERE?StaticOnTV

So fable the journey never happened?

There's a whole list.

But seeing how you can barely read as is, I won't waste my time hoping you comprehend anything.

[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"][QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

So fable the journey never happened?

ReadingRainbow4

There's a whole list.

But seeing how you can barely read as is, I won't waste my time hoping you comprehend anything.

[QUOTE="ReadingRainbow4"]

[QUOTE="StaticOnTV"] 1 game? You compalin for ONE game?StaticOnTV

There's a whole list.

But seeing how you can barely read as is, I won't waste my time hoping you comprehend anything.

Mass Effect 3 "better with Kinect"

Skyrim "better with Kinect"

Forza Horizon "Kinect"

Madden NFL 13 "Kinect"

Need for Speed : Most Wanted "Kinect"

Halo Waypoint "now better with Kinect"

Upcoming :

Splinter Cell Blacklist "Kinect"

Deadspace 3 "Kinect"