Will Sony keep their GPU "custom made" with the PS4?

They kept on whining about losing $ on every unit sold like a little *bleep* with the PS3. Why even go custom made when the cell is NO more powerful than your average PC today infact it's alot worse. The PS3 cant even play Crysis and you'd think it would be able to as much as Sony hyped "THE CELL":lol:Michael324

The cell is actually pretty powerful, but all the other parts bottleneck it.

And every console this gen has a custom GPU.

Maybe next gen Sony should post their specs to the PC Hardware discussion before building a bottlenecked rig. :P

I think that that for the PS4, Sony will finally unveil the true powerz of teh eMoTioN EnGiNe

they've rumored to possibly have the larrabee on the ps4. that would be awesome if its true

[QUOTE="Michael324"]They kept on whining about losing $ on every unit sold like a little *bleep* with the PS3. Why even go custom made when the cell is NO more powerful than your average PC today infact it's alot worse. The PS3 cant even play Crysis and you'd think it would be able to as much as Sony hyped "THE CELL":lol:swazidoughman

The cell is actually pretty powerful, but all the other parts bottleneck it.

And every console this gen has a custom GPU.

This

I read somewhere that the PS4 will have a Cell Duo, or something like that

The Cell is substantially more powerful than most PCs...The reason it "can't even play Crysis" as you so elegantly put it, is because it has a pathetic amount of RAM and a Mediocre GPU.kieranb2000

Well, not exactly.

The cell is better than most Intel/AMD cpus in certain situations because it was designed specifically for those functions.
Intel/AMD Cpus are better for general use.

but yeah, it is bottlenecked.

The Cell is substantially more powerful than most PCs...kieranb2000

The PS3 doesn't have a custom GPU (at least in the way you claim). Its an underclocked 7800s.loco145

If anything the 360 has the more unique GPU, it just happens to also be more powerful and just as easy to code for (thanks to DirectX libraries).

Well seeing that the RSX is made by Nividia...

I think they will rework their architecture. They had dedicated video ram and dedicated CPU ram, which ended up as a massive bottlneck. The RSX was also thrown in last minute, it wasn't really built along side of the Cell. Overal the system is very inefficent. The next one will be much better.

The Cell is substantially more powerful than most PCs...The reason it "can't even play Crysis" as you so elegantly put it, is because it has a pathetic amount of RAM and a Mediocre GPU.kieranb2000

The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?-Pred-Alien-

It's not exactly the same, and it's actually a bit weaker.

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?swazidoughman

It's not exactly the same, and it's actually a bit weaker.

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?swazidoughman

It's not exactly the same, and it's actually a bit weaker.

Well seeing that the RSX is made by Nividia...

I think they will rework their architecture. They had dedicated video ram and dedicated CPU ram, which ended up as a massive bottlneck. The RSX was also thrown in last minute, it wasn't really built along side of the Cell. Overal the system is very inefficent. The next one will be much better.

The question should be: Did Sony learn the lesson or not?? :P

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?Wasdie

It's not exactly the same, and it's actually a bit weaker.

The PS3 doesn't have a custom GPU (at least in the way you claim). Its an underclocked 7800s.loco145

they've rumored to possibly have the larrabee on the ps4. that would be awesome if its true

z4twenny

Edit: http://www.videogamer.com/news/sony_ps4_talk_is_rumour.html this is also a rumor, but far more likely, i think the ps3 lack of success made sony a bit more humble.

They kept on whining about losing $ on every unit sold like a little *bleep* with the PS3. Why even go custom made when the cell is NO more powerful than your average PC today infact it's alot worse. The PS3 cant even play Crysis and you'd think it would be able to as much as Sony hyped "THE CELL":lol:Michael324

your topic talks about GPU but in your post you talking about CPU

The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?-Pred-Alien-

You should look up the definition of 'custom'. :|

I hope the PS4 does not come out for some time yet. But I will be getting it for sure. Sony rocks!

[QUOTE="swazidoughman"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?CwlHeddwyn

It's not exactly the same, and it's actually a bit weaker.

The PS3 doesn't have a custom GPU (at least in the way you claim). Its an underclocked 7800s.loco145

The RSX, despite similarities to the higher end geforce 7000 series, is a custom GPU.

Also, many of your posts are filled with fanboyism. Watch what you say.

All three consoles have a PC company brand GPU, modified versions of PC GPU architecture like the G70.

It paints a picture of just how reliant on PC progress consoles are, if there was no PC gaming there wouldn't be a driving force to R&D new gaming orientated GPUs between console releases.

next consoles better have 4gigs of memory and at least 256 bit memory on the gpu.

i kind of knew way before 360 and ps3 were released that 512 mb of memory and 128bit gpu memory wasnt going to be good enough for HD.

All three consoles have a PC company brand GPU, modified versions of PC GPU architecture like the G70.

It paints a picture of just how reliant on PC progress consoles are, if there was no PC gaming there wouldn't be a driving force to R&D new gaming orientated GPUs between console releases.

AnnoyedDragon

Agreed.

However I think all platforms are a blast this gen.

With the amount of speculation going on in this thread regarding RSX; I figured before logging for the night that posting this would be useful.

Figures are taken from Wiki, RSX is essentially an overclocked 7800GTX with a smaller die and half the bus.

With the amount of speculation going on in this thread regarding RSX; I figured before logging for the night that posting this would be useful.

Figures are taken from Wiki, RSX is essentially an overclocked 7800GTX with a smaller die and half the bus.

AnnoyedDragon

Thank you for posting those numbers. Much appreciated.

It still impresses me with how well it works with the rest of the PS3's specs.

[QUOTE="Michael324"]They kept on whining about losing $ on every unit sold like a little *bleep* with the PS3. Why even go custom made when the cell is NO more powerful than your average PC today infact it's alot worse. The PS3 cant even play Crysis and you'd think it would be able to as much as Sony hyped "THE CELL":lol:swazidoughman

The cell is actually pretty powerful, but all the other parts bottleneck it.

And every console this gen has a custom GPU.

With the amount of speculation going on in this thread regarding RSX; I figured before logging for the night that posting this would be useful.

Figures are taken from Wiki, RSX is essentially an overclocked 7800GTX with a smaller die and half the bus.

With the amount of speculation going on in this thread regarding RSX; I figured before logging for the night that posting this would be useful.

Figures are taken from Wiki, RSX is essentially an overclocked 7800GTX with a smaller die and half the bus.

[QUOTE="loco145"]The PS3 doesn't have a custom GPU (at least in the way you claim). Its an underclocked 7800s.ChrnoTrigger

The RSX, despite similarities to the higher end geforce 7000 series, is a custom GPU.

The developers don't have problems with the RSX, but with the cell.

[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

With the amount of speculation going on in this thread regarding RSX; I figured before logging for the night that posting this would be useful.

Figures are taken from Wiki, RSX is essentially an overclocked 7800GTX with a smaller die and half the bus.

savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?Trmpt

You should look up the definition of 'custom'. :|

[QUOTE="Trmpt"]

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]The GPU is simply a 7800 GTX 512mb with 256mb, so its hardly custom made:?-Pred-Alien-

You should look up the definition of 'custom'. :|

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="Trmpt"]

You should look up the definition of 'custom'. :|

Trmpt

[QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"][QUOTE="Trmpt"]

You should look up the definition of 'custom'. :|

Trmpt

No, it's called overclocking.

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]I know, i changed the wheels on my cars, its so Pimp My Ride material:roll:Hanass

No, it's called overclocking.

[QUOTE="Trmpt"][QUOTE="-Pred-Alien-"]I know, i changed the wheels on my cars, its so Pimp My Ride material:roll:-Pred-Alien-