Will Sony update thier controller next gen?

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#101 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="Shirokishi_"]

We're getting the boomerang next gen.

gbpackers94

If this is the next gen controller I'm giving up gaming.

Just move over to PC gaming, then you can use any controller that you wish to use.

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#102 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

They should. PS3 controller design is now 16 years old!!!

finalfantasy94

Is that really a problem? I mean just cause something is old doesint mean it has to change if it works.

Except that it only work if you've never used a 360 controller. I can never go back to the Dual shock now.
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#103 CPM_basic
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

They should. PS3 controller design is now 16 years old!!!

HoolaHoopMan

Is that really a problem? I mean just cause something is old doesint mean it has to change if it works.

Except that it only work if you've never used a 360 controller. I can never go back to the Dual shock now.


True... if they just switched the analogs the PS controller would be fine. You only need the d-pad in that spot for fighters. I really dislike the first gen PS3 controllers though, they were way too light without the rumble.

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#104 gbpackers94
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True... if they just switched the analogs the PS controller would be fine. You only need the d-pad in that spot for fighters. I really dislike the first gen PS3 controllers though, they were way too light without the rumble. CPM_basic

Also it seems like the Dualshock 3 is for people with smaller hands. If I play for more than a few hours my hands start to cramp up. I had the same problem with PSP too.

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#105 envybianchi
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So far, Sony is the only company which does not update thier controller every gen. Both Microsoft and Nintendo have been updating thier controllers every gen, mostly improving ergenomics, Microsoft now has I think made the most comfortable controller, just infront of the GC pad last gen.

However, with motion controls comming to the forground, and Sony attempting to create it's own wiimote/nunchuck, do you think they might embrace motion controls next gen and make these controllers standard? If so, it'll be the first real controller change for Sony... ever.

DriftRS

Personally, I think the Playstation 1, 2 & 3 controller has been excellent. Especially, the Dualshock 3 which is similar to the Sixaxis but has bit more heft or weight, makes it MORE of a controller. A good comparison would be is to a Car Door that is "American" & a Car Door that is "European." You can feel & tell the discernible thunk with the European version over the American version. Those who know what I'm talking about rejoice but those who are..... well..... being ignorant can suck it or are probably Red Necks :P (The smiley face with the tongue out is a joke......).

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#106 ultraking
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nope, they will keep the dual shock controller.. and they should, since its the best out right now

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#107 fabz_95
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I hope they improve it but they don't change it too much, I like the current design.
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#108 razgriz_101
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why should they change the design cept from some ergonomic tweaks which some complain about thats all that sshould really change as its become an iconic design piece and does its job well so why change it all together that is just stupid.

Its like most well designed things those tend to stand the test of time i mean look at how the Les Paul has been revised over the years in diffrent ways to make it a better guitar all sony needs to do is update it every gen to make it feel good aswell as keeping the userbase content and ache free.

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#109 dkjestrup
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Some ergonomic tweaks would be fine, as would increasing the size and making R2 and L2 concave, although I find them fine as they are, and I also find R1/L1 fine for shooting too. If they made it so you could pull the D-PAD and Left stick out and swap them around optionally, depending on your genre of game, that would be cool too. I like the DS controllers though. They're so "standard" looking. They're symmetrical. They have awesome d-pads, great pressure sensitive face buttons, AWESOME analogue sticks, great bumpers. All that could be improved is ergonomics and the R2/L2 buttons.
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#110 toxicmog
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

They should. PS3 controller design is now 16 years old!!!

finalfantasy94

Is that really a problem? I mean just cause something is old doesint mean it has to change if it works.

It needs to change as the thumb sticks are the worst, not to mention the squashy triggers. It was fine last gen when the 2nd thumb stick was hardly used on the PS2. Most games had locked cameras, now with fully moving cameras its a royal pain to keep your thumbs in the same place poking each other.
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#111 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

They should. PS3 controller design is now 16 years old!!!

HoolaHoopMan

Is that really a problem? I mean just cause something is old doesint mean it has to change if it works.

Except that it only work if you've never used a 360 controller. I can never go back to the Dual shock now.

wow thats just BS. Iv been switching from yakuza 3 and alan wake everyday. Yakuza3=day time AW=night and I have no problem.

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#112 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

They should. PS3 controller design is now 16 years old!!!

toxicmog

Is that really a problem? I mean just cause something is old doesint mean it has to change if it works.

It needs to change as the thumb sticks are the worst, not to mention the squashy triggers. It was fine last gen when the 2nd thumb stick was hardly used on the PS2. Most games had locked cameras, now with fully moving cameras its a royal pain to keep your thumbs in the same place poking each other.

You see heres the thing. Thats not fact. Its just perfence/opinion. I just dont get why people cant get that.

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#113 Esnedon
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Though the PS3 controller is pretty decent, it really needs a change in ergonomics. I mean:

PS1

PS2

PS3

You then have this:

Xbox Original 'Duke'

Xbox Original 'S'

Xbox 360

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#115 Cherokee_Jack
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^ The Dualshock was a good design from the beginning. The original Xbox controllers just sucked, so they needed to change them.
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#116 Half-Way
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the design isok as it is, not perfect, but not bad either.

i just wish they changed it a litle, something inbetween a xbox360 and GCN controler

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#117 canoecamue
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So far, Sony is the only company which does not update thier controller every gen. Both Microsoft and Nintendo have been updating thier controllers every gen, mostly improving ergenomics, Microsoft now has I think made the most comfortable controller, just infront of the GC pad last gen.

However, with motion controls comming to the forground, and Sony attempting to create it's own wiimote/nunchuck, do you think they might embrace motion controls next gen and make these controllers standard? If so, it'll be the first real controller change for Sony... ever.

DriftRS

I think if it aint broke dont fix it, tho I wouldnt mind something along the lines of adjustable analog tension to improve fighters. So I dont have to wear my thumb raw playing with the d-pad. As for playing any other genre I have never had a problem with the controller, be it cramping or other pains.

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#118 Mark36111
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^ The Dualshock was a good design from the beginning. The original Xbox controllers just sucked, so they needed to change them.Cherokee_Jack
I'd rather play a shooter with the original Xbox "fat" than any version of the dual shock.
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#119 Dogswithguns
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I think it's fine like that, it's small, gives me some airflow preventing my hands from sweating.
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#120 stvee101
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The dual shock is mostly fine.I'm not to keen on playing FPS games with it though.

And the way the industry is headed,it doesn't look like there are going to be many totally new and innovative types of games that'll render it obsolete any time soon.

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#121 Coolyfett
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So far, Sony is the only company which does not update thier controller every gen. Both Microsoft and Nintendo have been updating thier controllers every gen, mostly improving ergenomics, Microsoft now has I think made the most comfortable controller, just infront of the GC pad last gen.

However, with motion controls comming to the forground, and Sony attempting to create it's own wiimote/nunchuck, do you think they might embrace motion controls next gen and make these controllers standard? If so, it'll be the first real controller change for Sony... ever.

DriftRS

THE D shock is a great controller!!! the controller has change just not in shape.

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#122 DarkGamer007
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The only thing Sony needs to fix with the Dualshock design is:

1) The triggers (make them more like the Xbox 360 triggers).

2) Make the controller more egronomic, you don't have to totally redesign it but the grips could fit in your hand a bit better.

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#123 Magic_Panda92
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I'm now using an unofficial Madcatz one. The triggers are WAY better and the controller is slightly wider for a better fit.

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#124 Raymundo_Manuel
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So far, Sony is the only company which does not update thier controller every gen. Both Microsoft and Nintendo have been updating thier controllers every gen, mostly improving ergenomics, Microsoft now has I think made the most comfortable controller, just infront of the GC pad last gen.

However, with motion controls comming to the forground, and Sony attempting to create it's own wiimote/nunchuck, do you think they might embrace motion controls next gen and make these controllers standard? If so, it'll be the first real controller change for Sony... ever.

DriftRS
Well, Sony upgraded to the Dualshock late into the PS1's lifetime, and it carried over to the PS2. I'd think that constitutes as an update. And they were going to make the boomerang PS3 controller, but everyone hated it (I thought it looked quite awesome) ^.^ And now they have the Move...
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#125 caseystryker
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The controller needs to be a tad larger and the analog sticks need to be tightened up a bit. Otherwise it's just fine.

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#126 mojito1988
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I would love the next Ps3 controller to be like the 360 controller i like the way the 360 controller feels so much better. Its not even close.

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#127 Kane04
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hopefully not but something like Move2 and the Eyetoy3 should be by default in the system to give it a better chance, at the end of the day thats what made the wii sell imo
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#128 Kiljoy66
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I think it's funny that everyone keeps calling R2/L2 'triggers' they aren't triggers for crying out loud.

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#129 Cherokee_Jack
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[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]^ The Dualshock was a good design from the beginning. The original Xbox controllers just sucked, so they needed to change them.Mark36111
I'd rather play a shooter with the original Xbox "fat" than any version of the dual shock.

I've never used the original Xbox controller for shooters, but I know the DS 3 is the best game pad for shooters that I've ever used.
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#130 Cherokee_Jack
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I think it's funny that everyone keeps calling R2/L2 'triggers' they aren't triggers for crying out loud.

Kiljoy66
They are triggers. The Dualshock 2 had shoulder buttons and the Dualshock 3 has triggers, they're different.
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#131 dkjestrup
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^ Why do people seem to think that they are triggers? They also think the 360 has more "realistic" triggers. If any controller had a realistic trigger, it was the N64. But today, the R1 button is the closest to a real trigger. For gaming? R1=RT=R2 anyways. They all work fine. Your finger won't slip unless you're disabled.
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#132 Cherokee_Jack
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^ Why do people seem to think that they are triggers?dkjestrup
Because they are. They're designed differently from regular shoulder buttons.
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#133 deactivated-61010a1ed19f4
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A Lot of people chose the PS3 over the 360 because of the controller, sounds crazy but if they change it, they could lose a lot of support.
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#134 Lantern-Cusp
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if it aint broke dont fix it.... the dualshock is and has been the best controller for a decade now IMO

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#135 Senor_Kami
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I wish they'd get with the times and stop positioning the d-pad as if it's still that primary way of controlling games.
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#136 PSGamerforlife
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I hope they DONT

I dont see anything wrong with it.

Its so comfortable, the Dpad is awesome, the sticks are symmetrical and my hands rest perfectly in that position, the TOX[] bbuttons are big and flat..perfect. And I dont know WTF all this talk about your finger slipping of the R/L2 buttons are because that is absolutely retarded.

Im not even gonna talk with other designs..

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#137 Magic_Panda92
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The controller needs to be a tad larger and the analog sticks need to be tightened up a bit. Otherwise it's just fine.

caseystryker

Thats exactly what the controller i'm using is :-)

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#138 Kleeyook
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But I think PS3's controller improves a LOT from PS2's controller. It's much more responsive, inbuilt SIXAXIS tech, much better R1, R2, L1, L2 buttons and now with PS button equivalent to Home button. As for me, PS3's R2 and L2 buttons are the best among other controllers. It's much easier to trigger them.
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#139 coltgames
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this always annoys me L1 and R1 are the triggers NOT l2 and r2 i hate every developer who messes this up thats why i didnt ger RDR or Modnation racers because i heard they made the same mistake. If u got MW2 for ps3 u should know this even infinity ward knws it
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#141 Magic_Panda92
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this always annoys me L1 and R1 are the triggers NOT l2 and r2 i hate every developer who messes this up thats why i didnt ger RDR or Modnation racers because i heard they made the same mistake. If u got MW2 for ps3 u should know this even infinity ward knws it coltgames

What does you mean?