Will Spore silence the "PC is dead/dying" crowd?

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#1 TDLlama
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PC has taken a beating left and right from a number of people in the industry and console fanboys, but if Spore succeeds beyond expectations, will that finally silence the naysayers that say that PC gaming is dead or dying?

I believe it can since everything Will Wright touches turns into gold (The Sims, SimCity) and Spore is likely to receive a lot of attention in the media and among gamers.

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Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)
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#3 Jynxzor
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As long as people are making PC games, there must be some profitable market in it, so I don't see how anyone can say PC gaming is dead...but! For the arguement of this thread the sales data will have to determine wether Spore was a smash hit or a bust.

I am personally waiting for Spore to come out so I can play if forever and ever....

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#4 dgsag
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As long as people are making PC games, there must be some profitable market in it, so I don't see how anyone can say PC gaming is dead...but! For the arguement of this thread the sales data will have to determine wether Spore was a smash hit or a bust.

I am personally waiting for Spore to come out so I can play if forever and ever....

Jynxzor

Well the Creature Creator has entered the top 50 sellers of amazon.com, so that's promising.

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Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)dgsag
:lol:
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#6 Mr_Apple_Soup
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i'll probably be crying when it comes out unless i can get some money to upgrade my memory :(

metophorically crying, of course

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[QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)DisPimpin
:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

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#8 thrones
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i'll probably be crying when it comes out unless i can get some money to upgrade my memory :(Mr_Apple_Soup

Have you seen the System Reqs? It's like 256mb or something tiny.

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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)thrones

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Actually, the entire series has done over 100 million. ;)

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[QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)DisPimpin
:lol:

Starcraft 2 is a sequal to a game that has sold 10 million and become a national sport.

Spore is the succesor to a franchise that sells 70 million anually.

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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)thrones

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Starcraft 2 is out? That's news to me. Just because the Sims is successful doesn't mean Snore will be. GTA didn't do much for Red Dead Revolver, now did it?
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)DisPimpin

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Starcraft is out? That's news to me. Just because the Sims is successful doesn't mean spore will be. GTA didn't do much for Red Dead Revolver, now did it?

Ouch, sorry.

Starcraft 1 outsold Halo 3.

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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)dgsag

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Actually, the entire series has done over 100 million. ;)

Ooo, interesting.

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[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]i'll probably be crying when it comes out unless i can get some money to upgrade my memory :(thrones

Have you seen the System Reqs? It's like 256mb or something tiny.

i coulda swore it was 756mb for vista (yeah my PC is like 3 years old, but i have a decent processor, so im able to run lotr:bfme2 and gw)

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[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)thrones

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Actually, the entire series has done over 100 million. ;)

Ooo, interesting.

According to the NY Times, only Mario is bigger.

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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]i'll probably be crying when it comes out unless i can get some money to upgrade my memory :(Mr_Apple_Soup

Have you seen the System Reqs? It's like 256mb or something tiny.

i coulda swore it was 756mb for vista (yeah my PC is like 3 years old, but i have a decent processor, so im able to run lotr:bfme2 and gw)

try out the demo and see....but I am pretty confident that if you can run BFme 2, you can run spore.....

but either way, memory is really cheap right now.

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#17 TDLlama
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)DisPimpin

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Starcraft 2 is out? That's news to me. Just because the Sims is successful doesn't mean Snore will be. GTA didn't do much for Red Dead Revolver, now did it?

DisPimpin, you don't know how dedicated Sims/SimCity fans are to Will Wright's works... many of us practically worship the ground he walks on. Lots of SimCity fans bought The Sims and fans of the most popular PC franchise of all-time will buy Spore.

And the reason people didn't buy Red Dead Revolver is because the game was average at best.

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If it's good yeah.
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)TDLlama

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Starcraft 2 is out? That's news to me. Just because the Sims is successful doesn't mean Snore will be. GTA didn't do much for Red Dead Revolver, now did it?

DisPimpin, you don't know how dedicated Sims/SimCity fans are to Will Wright's works... many of us practically worship the ground he walks on. Lots of SimCity fans bought The Sims and fans of the most popular PC franchise of all-time will buy Spore.

And the reason people didn't buy Red Dead Revolver is because the game was average at best.

not just that but Spore has ALREADY got national news attention. I believe they were talking about it on the Today show after it was announced.

EA knows that Spore will could be even bigger than The Sims, and they are just giving Will Wright the room to make his masterpiece.

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#20 Shadow_of_Kirby
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Nope.

Fanboys are, well, fanboys. They'll keep running their trap in the face of logic and reason.

But, hey, it's always fun to expose self-pwnage.

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#21 DisPimpin
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I won't bash Snore completely. It does have this going for it. :)
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#22 Mr_Apple_Soup
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I won't bash Snore completely. It does have this going for it. :)DisPimpin

omg i havent laughed so hard all week

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#23 TDLlama
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I won't bash Snore completely. It does have this going for it. :)DisPimpin

Another reason it will sell... Jack Thompson will be all over that which will boost sales even more.

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#24 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="DisPimpin"]I won't bash Snore completely. It does have this going for it. :)Mr_Apple_Soup

omg i havent laughed so hard all week

same. That is so wrong.

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If World of Warcraft and the Sims didn't end it, I doubt this game will. I think Spore will be a success, but certainly nowhere near as massive as World of Warcraft... or even the Sims. Alot of girls play the sims. Spore sounds cute until you mention alien attacks and wars. I think it'll be a "boy game" then and they won't show up to buy.
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well, if they ARE successful, then I'm sure that people will fill the board gloating like cows did with MGS4, and if they aren't, more "PC gaming is dead" topics will still come up. either way, System Wars is getting its fix of chaos. One game can't save PC gaming, or any console. Paying a couple hundred for a PC to run one game is like spending a couple hundred for a console to play one game. Spore can't be the only one backing it up.

I have more faith in Starcraft 2, though.

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well, if they ARE successful, then I'm sure that people will fill the board gloating like cows did with MGS4, and if they aren't, more "PC gaming is dead" topics will still come up. either way, System Wars is getting its fix of chaos. One game can't save PC gaming, or any console. Paying a couple hundred for a PC to run one game is like spending a couple hundred for a console to play one game. Spore can't be the only one backing it up.

I have more faith in Starcraft 2, though.

bulletsword

As far as system wars goes though, I think you can get away saying that one game saves a system. Well, a console at least.

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[QUOTE="thrones"][QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="DisPimpin"][QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)evilbanshee

:lol:

Starcraft 2 has outsold Halo 3, and Spore is from the makers of the sims, which sold 50 million.

Actually, the entire series has done over 100 million. ;)

Ooo, interesting.

According to the NY Times, only Mario is bigger.

And Mario has what? A two decade head start?

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If it sells well in countries that matter.
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well, if they ARE successful, then I'm sure that people will fill the board gloating like cows did with MGS4, and if they aren't, more "PC gaming is dead" topics will still come up. either way, System Wars is getting its fix of chaos. One game can't save PC gaming, or any console. Paying a couple hundred for a PC to run one game is like spending a couple hundred for a console to play one game. Spore can't be the only one backing it up.

I have more faith in Starcraft 2, though.

bulletsword

the PC does have the most AAAE and AAE, so it wouldn't be a case of just one game.

But, no this won't silence the crowd... nothing will.

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#31 thrones
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If it sells well in countries that matter.Vaan7

Not America? Right. Because to me, America doesn't matter in this. :| PCGaming has dominance in Asia and Europe, not America.

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[QUOTE="Vaan7"]If it sells well in countries that matter.thrones

Not America? Right. Because to me, America doesn't matter in this. :| PCGaming has dominance in Asia and Europe, not America.

Yeah, SC 2's going to get like 6-7 million sales from S. Korea alone. :lol:

I predict that hardware sales for midrange hardware will go through the roof before and after the release date.

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Spore will probably sell a lot due to the low requirements. Not sure about starcraft. Maybe by the time they release it the grqaphics would be outdated.
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Spore will probably sell a lot due to the low requirements. Not sure about starcraft. Maybe by the time they release it the grqaphics would be outdated.Jamex1987

Those graphics will be anything but outdated by late-2008/early-2009

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Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)dgsag

I dont think you should get cocky just yet.

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[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]Spore will probably sell a lot due to the low requirements. Not sure about starcraft. Maybe by the time they release it the grqaphics would be outdated.dgsag

Those graphics will be anything but outdated by late-2008/early-2009

yeah. Starcraft 2 has fantastic graphics. Very sharp, clean look. I think it will get a graphics merit or two because it looks great and is very efficient.

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#37 TDLlama
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Spore will probably sell a lot due to the low requirements. Not sure about starcraft. Maybe by the time they release it the grqaphics would be outdated.Jamex1987

I don't think fans of Starcraft or Spore will care that much about the graphics... it's all in the gameplay and customization.

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#38 kokomos
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PC Gaming isn't dying. Now you anti-PC gamers should go buy a Mac.

If you have a PC, you don't think PC Gaming is dead.

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[QUOTE="dgsag"]Spore and Starcraft 2 are the multi-million copy sellers that will take on and outgun the console behemoths (IE: Halo 3, GTA)Haee

I dont think you should get cocky just yet.

I guarantee Starcraft 2 matches Halo 3 in sales.

Infact, I bet the South Korean sales match Halo 3, forget the rest of the world... The fact that they filled and OLYMPIC STADIUM, and then had another 100,000 people watching outside on monitors for the announcement... That speaks for itself. There are TV stations dedicated to broadcasting Starcraft in South Korea. I would say it is safe to assume certain things about its sales on South Korea.

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#40 killab2oo5
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Ouch, sorry.

Starcraft 1 outsold Halo 3.

thrones

With Starcraft 2 sales in those 13million or so are expansions included?

EDIT: Oh yes,I put no.

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#41 deactivated-5de2fb6a3a711
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PC Gaming isn't dying. Now you anti-PC gamers should go buy a Mac.

If you have a PC, you don't think PC Gaming is dead.

kokomos

people can go ahead and have a PC, but they may not be into PC gaming or even own one capable of doing so. hence why people include the word "gaming" when they say "PC gaming is/isn't dying/dead"

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#42 evilbanshee
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And Mario has what? A two decade head start?

dgsag

Um, you should re-read my post again if you think I was being negative towards The Sims.

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#43 LinKuei_warrior
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[QUOTE="thrones"]

[QUOTE="Mr_Apple_Soup"]i'll probably be crying when it comes out unless i can get some money to upgrade my memory :(Mr_Apple_Soup

Have you seen the System Reqs? It's like 256mb or something tiny.

i coulda swore it was 756mb for vista (yeah my PC is like 3 years old, but i have a decent processor, so im able to run lotr:bfme2 and gw)

all i know is for XPs its a minimum of only 512MB!

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#44 dgsag
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[QUOTE="dgsag"]

And Mario has what? A two decade head start?

evilbanshee

Um, you should re-read my post again if you think I was being negative towards The Sims.

I was just commenting... No need to get defensive. :)