Will SSBB be able to compete with GTAIV?

The real question is, can this


compete with this?

goblaa

Is this a joke??

Were you really being sarcastic? Or were you just disagreeing? Anyway, you have to face it, the gaming industry is shoving down gamer's throats more depictions of reality (GTA is like being a crim-type dude in down town cities) and violence when there's still games that are simple, fun, and ORIGINAL. People say GTA created the sandbox gameplay idea when The Legend of Zelda started it in 1986 (I think). That's what I was meaning, games like GTA and Halo are franchises that I see that simply give us the same gameplay and different circumstances. That is an opinion so don't flip out and get all nerdy on me or something...

Both agreeing and disagreeing.  I very much consider simple and fun games the bane of this industry and blame them for a wide variety of flawed arguements used in defense of many topics brought up on these forums.  Excessively simple and "fun" (if we define "fun" in its most simple form -- a low form of pleasure very similar to a guttural form of pleasure -- ie, eatting a food you enjoy.  It doesn't provide the same type of fun as something intellectually or culturally stimulating) are hoisted as the standard by which we judge many games and aspect of this industry.  Instead of acknowledging such games for what they are, extremely simple games which limit the functionality of games, we elevate them to serve as standards. 

Why do we not judge games like Olympic dives?  Less complex and meaningful games automatically start at a lower score, no matter how well ( or how much simple fun ) the game provides?

Both Zelda and GTA provide a flawed sandbox for users to play around in.  Each does for different reasons.  Neither game deserves much praise. Zelda fails to provide enough quantity of interesting content.  GTA fails to provide enough quality entertainment.  Both are serious problems.

That being said, I still don't think we should force them to compete with each other for dramatically different markets.

A major reason last gen GC lost is because GTA was not on the console. Same scenario this time around except for the fact that Wii is targeting a different market than the GC was....non gamers.

Do you think the public will do what they did last gen and ignore Nintendo because they don't have the latest GTA?

Will this...



...be able to compete with this...



What do you think?


the-very-best

Being that Nintendo is in talks with Rockstar to bring it to the Wii, I don't think they need a repetitive game that hasn't been orignial since 2001. And GTA didn't decide last-gen. The fall of the Dreamcast did. Had Sega done things better and not lost so much money and the Dreamcast stayed afloat with its games and online capabilites it would severly dented ps2's sales. And the Wii has rockstar's own Manhunt 2, also Driver, The Godfather, Scarface.

It needs games like it already has like Sadness and Resident Evil.

GTA is not an exclusive. SMBB IS.NoFanboyzPlease

Its a shame that no one figure that out yet!!!

How can a multiplat compete with an exclusive game????

[QUOTE="goblaa"]The real question is, can this


compete with this?

NoFanboyzPlease

Who really cares. SSBB will be online and people have been itching for a Smash Bros game online since Melee came out. You really have to think about what gamers are going to go for, new features in a fighting game with online play or another rehash of a game that lost its flare after the 3rd installment. Yea both games are going to be successful but for different people. I intend on getting both since I will be a PS3 and Wii owner by the time both games have launched.

No. SSBB is not the system seller that GTA and Halo are.rykaziel

If SSBB outsales GTA4 and Halo 3 I will leave gamespot immediatlypoopinloop32

[QUOTE="poopinloop32"]If SSBB outsales GTA4 and Halo 3 I will leave gamespot immediatlyjamesmt0032

If SSBB outsales GTA4 and Halo 3 I will leave gamespot immediatlypoopinloop32

[QUOTE="rykaziel"]No. SSBB is not the system seller that GTA and Halo are.Thug_Pikachu

[QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"][QUOTE="rykaziel"]No. SSBB is not the system seller that GTA and Halo are.Tristam22

The American gaming market is really dumb (no offense) since they see a game where you can beat up hookers or shoot the same aliens with two guns at the same time now and say "Hey, I think violence is great!" Now, SSBB is a beat-em-up game, but it is so much less violent than the other two. It's more arcade like and will probably advance the series with more features, more characters, online, new ways to play, new modes, etc. No, it won't be able to compete as well cause America likes to beat up hookers and shoot up aliens and their trash-talking friends. The rest of the world, well, I don't know what they like to play...SkateGame

[QUOTE="Tristam22"][QUOTE="Thug_Pikachu"][QUOTE="rykaziel"]No. SSBB is not the system seller that GTA and Halo are.GundamGuy0

like all fighting games, smash brothers is a niche game, whereas gta has mass appeal. we can argue day and night about which game is better than the other, but gta will sell more. i think thats a given.edeasknight

No, it won't be able to compete with GTA IV very well, they might get close, but there are too many blood-loving casuals in America to deny GTA the crown of top-seller.

Still, on an overall basis, we all know Smash Bros>GTA so it really doesn't matter to me as long as it's a good game.

[QUOTE="edeasknight"]like all fighting games, smash brothers is a niche game, whereas gta has mass appeal. we can argue day and night about which game is better than the other, but gta will sell more. i think thats a given.Redmoonxl2

On this site

4220 people have GTA IV on their PS3 wish list

4049 people have GTA IV on their 360 wish list

11418 have Smash Bros Brawl on their Wii wish list
cakeorrdeath

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]On this site

4220 people have GTA IV on their PS3 wish list

4049 people have GTA IV on their 360 wish list

11418 have Smash Bros Brawl on their Wii wish list
user_nat

[QUOTE="user_nat"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]On this site

4220 people have GTA IV on their PS3 wish list

4049 people have GTA IV on their 360 wish list

11418 have Smash Bros Brawl on their Wii wish list
cakeorrdeath

Didn't Super Smash Bros. Melee sell 8 million copies? It did. Did GTA 3 sell that many? darth-pyschosis

[QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="edeasknight"]like all fighting games, smash brothers is a niche game, whereas gta has mass appeal. we can argue day and night about which game is better than the other, but gta will sell more. i think thats a given.edeasknight

On this site

4220 people have GTA IV on their PS3 wish list

4049 people have GTA IV on their 360 wish list

11418 have Smash Bros Brawl on their Wii wish list
cakeorrdeath

That's horrible reasoning considering that not all launch titles get as much attention. The mere fact that the game kept selling after the launch window and hit the 6 million shows the series' popularity. In comparison, games like MGS3, the first Halo, God of War, Kingdom Hearts and Devil May Cry actually sold less than Smash Bros Melee. Niche? I think not.Redmoonxl2

Smash bros. isn't even a AAA series. Loved only by nintendo fanboys who will play anything Nintendo gives them.

[QUOTE="edeasknight"][QUOTE="Redmoonxl2"][QUOTE="edeasknight"]like all fighting games, smash brothers is a niche game, whereas gta has mass appeal. we can argue day and night about which game is better than the other, but gta will sell more. i think thats a given.Redmoonxl2

Gamecube owners had little else to play so of course they all bought it.

[QUOTE="darth-pyschosis"]Didn't Super Smash Bros. Melee sell 8 million copies? It did. Did GTA 3 sell that many? The_Steam

But SSB isn't mass popular as it (Taking Cakeorrdeath's shocking figures into account).Teh_Stevz