Will SWTOR be a WoW Killer?

If there is ever a game that can finally dethrone WoW from the top MMO spot it has to be SWTOR. I've been following this game for awhile now, and have been clearly impressed from what I've seen so far. Considering Bioware (can they even make a bad game?) is at the same level if not better then Blizzard, this game has a credible shot at being something very special. It may be even so good that it steals away subscribers from WoW.

What do you guys think?

No, only Blizzards new MMO would be able to kill WoW.

This thread is useless.

How can we predict it? And no....WoW will still have a huge userbase regardles of how well SW does.

If it has low system requirements like WoW and is accessible enough for new players, I could see it replacing WoW. While Warcraft is a huge gaming franchise, it looks small under the Star Wars brand.

An MMO doesn't get killed. It eventually implodes.

Well according to VGchartz the original WoW sold 12m copies, BC at 6.5m and WotLK sold 5.25m. At least you can compare them relatively and as you can see WoW is dying in that sense, they probably still rake in the money with all these new payment features.

WoW is definitely getting less and less people for every new expansion, I seriously doubt Cataclysm is going to change the direction in which it is heading towards atm.

Star Wars MMO, maybe not as hot sounding as Pokemon MMO, but yeah it's still cool.

Lets see how it all plays out.

SWTOR is not going to be a WoW killer....

Diablo 3 is going to kill WoW cause most of the WoW players played Diablo 2.

Think about the fanbase of WoW. How many of those casuals do you think actually knows SW:TOR exists? And, of those that do how many would feel alienated by the Star Wars franchise? Not everyone is a fan

I assume if all goes well all TOR will do is add to the population of MMO gamers out there. It won't take (m)any from WoW, nor will it take (m)any from all those niche Korean MMOs. It'll just be it's own seperate thing I'm sure.

If anything, WoW will kill SW:TOD.

Think about the fanbase of WoW. How many of those casuals do you think actually knows SW:TOR exists? And, of those that do how many would feel alienated by the Star Wars franchise? Not everyone is a fan

treedoor

The number of people who like Star Wars is most likely larger than the number of people who even know what Warcraft is outside of WoW.

The SW license will actually do something meaningful for TOR.

I think it will be the most access able MMO since WoW, and i think it will be WoW's biggest competitor, but i don't think WoW is going to fail.

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Think about the fanbase of WoW. How many of those casuals do you think actually knows SW:TOR exists? And, of those that do how many would feel alienated by the Star Wars franchise? Not everyone is a fan

Cherokee_Jack

The number of people who like Star Wars is most likely larger than the number of people who even know what Warcraft is outside of WoW.

The SW license will actually do something meaningful for TOR.

I'm sure it is, but that doesn't translate to it being the most dominant MMO. As you can clearly tell regardless of the license, Star Wars is not the most popular brand in video games.

I guarantee that the majority of WoW players, and I can't imagine I'm exaggerating by throwing out a number like 90%, don't know what TOR is. They don't know who Bioware is, they don't know what TOR is, and chances are they don't even play video games outside of WoW. I've met a bazillion WoW players in my day, and I used to play it myself. It's just it's own seperate corner of the market. Nobody disturbs it, and nothing it does echoes out into the rest of the market.

No, but I think it will be better.

The thinga bout WoW is that it can pretty much run on anything. However, im pretty sure TOR will need a beefy PC in order to run. That might hurt it.

No, only Blizzards new MMO would be able to kill WoW.

DarkerKamikaze

No, but it might be a decent contender.

The thinga bout WoW is that it can pretty much run on anything. However, im pretty sure TOR will need a beefy PC in order to run. That might hurt it.

XboximusPrime

If there is ever a game that can finally dethrone WoW from the top MMO spot it has to be SWTOR. I've been following this game for awhile now, and have been clearly impressed from what I've seen so far. Considering Bioware (can they even make a bad game?) is at the same level if not better then Blizzard, this game has a credible shot at being something very special. It may be even so good that it steals away subscribers from WoW.

What do you guys think?

WoW is here to stay until Blizzard pulls the plug, which will be in a few milleniums most likely.

at any rate, I for one will be playing TOR from open Beta to launch, and God willing, remain my MMO for several years.

TOR will add nothing to the MMO landscape. Having a moral choice system in an MMO makes no sense, since you choose whether you're a Jedi or a Sith at the beginning of the game. As such, there will likely be no real choice system. Bioware is officially garbage in my book. KOTOR 3 on with current gen graphics, physics and a whole new cast of characters would've been awesome, but no, they had to make some generic MMO. **** you, Bioware.Rhazakna

WoW is dying on its own.Zero5000X

If by dying to you mean getting more subscribers than ever then yea, it's dying.

Well according to VGchartz the original WoW sold 12m copies, BC at 6.5m and WotLK sold 5.25m. At least you can compare them relatively and as you can see WoW is dying in that sense, they probably still rake in the money with all these new payment features.

WoW is definitely getting less and less people for every new expansion, I seriously doubt Cataclysm is going to change the direction in which it is heading towards atm.

Star Wars MMO, maybe not as hot sounding as Pokemon MMO, but yeah it's still cool.

Lets see how it all plays out.

kontejner44

As for my opinion, I say no. Not as enthusiastically as your poll might suggest but still no.

I had high hopes for SWTOR, but after watching several videos it pretty much just looks like WoW in a star wars universe. New MMOs need to stop trying to beat WoW in its own game. As many have said, WoW will die when Blizzard decides to kill it not when another game comes along to kill it.

Here is the thing. Everyone that knows and likes the Warcraft universe is a gamer. Everyone who knows and likes SW is not necesairly a gamer. KOTORs fans for the most part dont like the idea of the sequel being an mmo. SW games have had many ups and downs while the Warcraft games and Blizz games overall have been a steady stream of higly rated and acclaimed games that had an impact on gaming. I do not see SW getting anywhere close to WoWs numbers then again I am also a firm believer that WoW is the exception not the rule for succesful mmos. I do not think there ever will be an mmo that comes close to WoWs population and thats in part to the changing mmo genre. At E3 there were something like 30+ mmos. Simply put there is variety that did not exist when WoW was launching.

I'm between "no" and "i don't know"

WoW is dying on its own.Zero5000X

The only thing that might hurt SWTOR is that everyone is going to be a jedi. I know it's the class I'm picking first.

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]WoW is dying on its own.Espada12

If by dying to you mean getting more subscribers than ever then yea, it's dying.

It's dying like PC gaming is dying :lol:

It has a chance, but WoW allready has a huge established community, those 11.5 millions won't quit because of just one game. When WAR, AoC, Aion and a few others released, most of WoW players left to try them out, only to come back in a month. For example, WAR was super fun, but it is a highly orientated PvP game, which means no community = no PvP, and people who left WoW for WAR returned shortly.

People fail to understand how successfull wow really is compared to every other MMO No other subscription based MMO even has 1.5 million active players on it right now aside from Wow. So before Wow came out and even now really if new MMOs even hit 500 k plus that is still a big success (sustained memebers that is) A good example is Square Enix with Final Fantasy 11. It makes a ton of money still to this day for SE but it only has 500 k players.

My point is SWTOR will be a big success and it does not need to sell 10 million to be a big success, but anyone that thinks that it will take out Wow is just killing themsleves. Wow is like the Walmart of MMO games. Wow is very easy, low system specs, and the regular monsters in the game almost can't kill you. That given wow is here to stay.

I think its a good thing becuase all the casuals will stay on wow and more hardcore players will go to SWTOR, and FF 14. Just the way I like it.

I hope so.

pretty much everyone i know that plays the game at work(80+people at our local airport),wife/2 kids and my entire guild in the game are going to at least try old republic.there is no doubt it will beat most others butmay take 4 years to get 10+ million.by that time dc comics,city of heroes 2,diablo 3may take sales away.

I'm sure it will be a much more successful Wow killer than killzone as a Halo Killer. :P

i hope so, i plan on getting it and i'm hoping my WoW-addicted friend quits that drug for something i'm more interested in

[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]WoW is dying on its own.Espada12

If by dying to you mean getting more subscribers than ever then yea, it's dying.

Nothing will ever kill WoW. Except WoW 2.

It wont kill WoW but i think itll be the most successful MMO not created by Blizzard.

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[QUOTE="Zero5000X"]WoW is dying on its own.Zero5000X

If by dying to you mean getting more subscribers than ever then yea, it's dying.

Wow's subscription base jumped again with WOTLK... and will jump again with Cata...if the trend continues...

http://www.giantbomb.com/news/updated-world-of-warcraft-subscriber-numbers/704/

The release of the MMO's second expansion,Wrath of the Lich King, is credited as fueling this rise in subscribers.