Will the glory days return?

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Poll Will the glory days return? (24 votes)

Yeah they will SCORPIO 4k 60fps THREE NINETY NINE!!! 29%
Nope they wont SCORPIO 1800p 30fps FIVE NINETY NINE!! 71%

I remember the old days...

When merry consolites ran dancing into stores holding $400 in their fists!!!

When jolly corporations sold $700 and $850 machines at loss!!

When $1000 PCs struggled to run Oblivion in early 2006

Will the darkness of profitable $250 machines that are sold at $400 be defeated?

When will the laughter of the master race stop?

Can MS do it? can their nearly bottomless resources make fall 2017 $1000 PCs cry?

I surely hope so

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#1 Telekill
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OP... are you high?

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#2 dynamitecop
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Stop making loaded question polls, this place is such an idiotic shit hole, my god...

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#3 True_Gamer_
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@Telekill said:

OP... are you high?

Let me make it less poetic for you:

Will Scorpio own $1000 PCs at $400 pricepoint?

Just like the 360 in 2005?

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#4 pyro1245
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Ew. God those were not the glory days. Hardware has traveled leaps and bounds since then - both PC and console hardware.

Once again i will not vote cuz foobar options.

@Telekill said:

OP... are you high?

I dunno.... I'm not sure a complete loss of all sense is a side effect of getting high. Maybe pills....

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@dynamitecop said:

Stop making loaded question polls, this place is such an idiotic shit hole, my god...

Why are you staying?

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#6 dynamitecop
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@MonsieurX said:
@dynamitecop said:

Stop making loaded question polls, this place is such an idiotic shit hole, my god...

Why are you staying?

You know that one saying "It's like watching a bad car accident, it's horrible but you can't look away."?

That's this place, and I happen to be involved in said wreck.

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Glory day returned the day Doom released. next is PREY.

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You guys can wax about your hardware wars all you want but let's not confuse folks on what the "Glory days" were.... A window in time where people ignored graphic whores in favor of expanding the realm of interaction with a video game. Given gen 6 games are still being pushed out as new games with shiny coats of paint, I'd say that's about where it died for mainstream developers.

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@dynamitecop said:

Stop making loaded question polls, this place is such an idiotic shit hole, my god...

Calm the **** down and clean up your room, its messier than SW.

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#10  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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The "master race" has nothing to laugh out. Almost every genre they own is now the domain of consoles, including objectively superior genres such as FPS.

Aside from strategy titles, MMO's and smaller low budget titles, all the blockbusters, literally every one, is created first and foremost with either a Xbox or Playstation in mind.

It's like surviving Pearl Harbor and boasting 2 planes didn't get leveled.

Extreme ridiculusnessnes.

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#11 pyro1245
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@ghosts4ever said:

Glory day returned the day Doom released. next is PREY.

Plus all the cool CRPGs we are getting is pretty reminiscent of the glory days of the early PC era. I think it's a great time to be a gamer on whatever platform.

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@silversix_ said:
@dynamitecop said:

Stop making loaded question polls, this place is such an idiotic shit hole, my god...

Calm the **** down and clean up your room, its messier than SW.

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@TheEroica said:

You guys can wax about your hardware wars all you want but let's not confuse folks on what the "Glory days" were.... A window in time where people ignored graphic whores in favor of expanding the realm of interaction with a video game. Given gen 6 games are still being pushed out as new games with shiny coats of paint, I'd say that's about where it died for mainstream developers.

This right here.

I remember the days of when you bought a game and it was finished, bug free, and tested property. I remember the days of no DLC or Season pass bullshit. I remember the days of variety in gaming, lots of smaller dev houses pushing out interesting and new ideas to market, compared to today where we are down to a handful of makers all pushing out the same rehashes to games that already exist.

I remember the days of no long installs or patch times. I remember the days of couch coop. I remember the days of when E3 didn't suck and there was actual gameplay shown instead of trailers for games that might exist within three years. I remember the days when people used to care about awesome gameplay over counting pixels.

I'm not sure what the heck TC is banging on about.

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#14 xantufrog  Moderator
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ugh, this again. We already poked holes in your 360masterrace arguments.

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#15  Edited By iandizion713
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The glory days are no more. Gamers have fallen. Too weak to rise back up, we must now look to a savior. A hero one might say.

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#16 TheEroica  Moderator
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@svaubel: preach!

Ya know what's sad is that the industry is actually listening to the mentality of tc...

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#17 pyro1245
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@svaubel: Agreed... Those days were damn glorious.

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#18 xantufrog  Moderator
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@TheEroica: yup

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Scorpio is nothing more than a blobfish with lipstick on. Nintendo is bringing back the glory days with the switch.

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#20  Edited By Heil68
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they did in 2013 when SONY stormed the world with current gen 8 console leader, your beloved PS4.

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#21 QuadKnight
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@Heil68 said:

they did in 2013 when SONY stormed the world with current gen 8 console leader, your beloved PS4.

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@TheEroica said:

@svaubel: preach!

Ya know what's sad is that the industry is actually listening to the mentality of tc...

Agree with both of you.

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#23  Edited By lamprey263
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Wonder to what extent if any MS will sell them at a loss in recouping costs later through software sales, that can make a major difference on price point. Also curious if given the year+ between their E3 announcement and when it releases whether we'll get updates to its capabilities. Also worth considering MS every year has tens of billions of dollars to write off on taxes that they use to make major acquisitions or IP purchases and whatnot, they could just as easy tap into that total to write off investments like taking temporary losses on hardware and such. For instance MS with the Xbox 360 took a $1 billion loss initially just to double the RAM of the Xbox 360 because Epic Games convinced them it would have made a tremendous difference on Gears of War, they swallowed the cost themselves to keep the Xbox 360 price point down.

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@quadknight said:
@Heil68 said:

they did in 2013 when SONY stormed the world with current gen 8 console leader, your beloved PS4.

Hell yeah. Have you seen PS4's 2017 line up? I'm getting PS2 days flashbacks!

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@dakur said:
@quadknight said:
@Heil68 said:

they did in 2013 when SONY stormed the world with current gen 8 console leader, your beloved PS4.

Hell yeah. Have you seen PS4's 2017 line up? I'm getting PS2 days flashbacks!

Same here. The PS4 games next year are going to be mindblowing. Lems are so scared hence the shitty Flopio threads to damage control the fact they have nothing for next year.

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#26 bowserjr123
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I don't like your definition of glory days and your poll seems quite rigged.

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#27 R4gn4r0k
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This poll makes no sense.

How can better hardware be cheaper lolwut ?

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lol 4K 60fps, do you know what that means? GTX1080 should be at least installed in that system - a 600$ GPU

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My glory days was when I withdrew $300 twice from an ATM and bought 2 STB Blackmagic Voodoo 2, cash at an EB store. The cashier had a wide open jaw as I left the store. Nowadays, it's nothing. But, back then? Oh, yeah.

Then, it was my turn to drool as I played Quake 2 uber schmooth at 1024x768. Still got the original CD. Still play the game on a netbook.

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@uninspiredcup said:

The "master race" has nothing to laugh out. Almost every genre they own is now the domain of consoles, including objectively superior genres such as FPS.

Aside from strategy titles, MMO's and smaller low budget titles, all the blockbusters, literally every one, is created first and foremost with either a Xbox or Playstation in mind.

It's like surviving Pearl Harbor and boasting 2 planes didn't get leveled.

Extreme ridiculusnessnes.

You like FPS we get it

Plus you consider Xbone a successful console

And how piracy kills PC gaming

How Denuvo didnt make any difference

You are a good troll ill give u that

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@uninspiredcup: spot on.

I just enjoy gaming on multiple platforms but the consoles are the best for pure gaming, although PC is still the place to be for mp

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#32 cainetao11
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Never. Like the Boss sang "glory days, pass you by.......in the wink of young girls eye, glory days"

Nothing is ever as good again. Enjoy everything to the fullest when you're there

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I will never be six years old again and have the same wonder and excitement that I felt back then but besides that I think games are the best they have ever been right now. I couldn't be happier.

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I'm disappointed in this thread TC. I thought we were going to talk about games.

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#35  Edited By KOD
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@True_Gamer_ said:

Let me make it less poetic for you:

Will Scorpio own $1000 PCs at $400 pricepoint?

Just like the 360 in 2005?

1. By the time the 360 was around PC prices already started to drop and you could easily have a higher grade system with 600 bucks. In fact at the time i had a better system from 2003 that cost 499 and a 199 video card i got a couple years later that put it above the 360.

Aside from the 90s and maybe a year or two into the 2000s, this whole "PCs are expensive" thing was mostly a myth and IMO it came from people who probably simply saw ads in gaming magazines for Alienware. Which was a very overpriced company. But by '02 AMD had started pushing chips 10-30% faster than Intel's at a fraction of the cost.

2. The Scorpio will not be 400 or 499, it will be well above this. IMO $699 is more realistic but also a low end given what they want to do.

3. Even if it was 499, you could definitely build a better PC that im sure will get higher and more stable FPS, at that price. My "internet browsing" PC i am currently on (that i also use as a test PC) is a low end quad core given to me by a friend who got a new PC and my only cost was adding a $29 SSD and $279 dollar GPU that can currently do better than the best expectations of the Scorpio.

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#36  Edited By KOD
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@jun_aka_pekto said:

My glory days was when I withdrew $300 twice from an ATM and bought 2 STB Blackmagic Voodoo 2, cash at an EB store. The cashier had a wide open jaw as I left the store. Nowadays, it's nothing. But, back then? Oh, yeah.

Then, it was my turn to drool as I played Quake 2 uber schmooth at 1024x768. Still got the original CD. Still play the game on a netbook.

I still have my AGP Voodoo 3/16megs. Ill never forget buying it at Staples of all places, this was back when they used to have a full wall of GPUs.

My upgraded GPU was a TNT2 ultra that pushed a killer 32megs.

And then came games like Battlefield 1942, MOH:AA, COD and i upgraded to a GeForce4 Ti 4800SE with uhhh... 128megs ram i think. Which i actually kept for quite a while. That thing was able to keep up with modern games for a good three years.

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Glory days will return with Jet Moto 4 and Twisted Metal Black 2!!! And only if Singletrac makes 'em!!!!

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Why do you choose to litter this board with your idiotic rants?

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#39  Edited By raugutcon
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You mean you want the Arcades to come back TC ? Those were wonderful days indeed, being a teenager during the arcade age was glorious, run to with a bunch of quarters in your bags ( here we didn't use quarters, we purchased quarter size coins ), you got three lives and that was it.

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#40  Edited By PimpHand_Gamer
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@svaubel said:
@TheEroica said:

You guys can wax about your hardware wars all you want but let's not confuse folks on what the "Glory days" were.... A window in time where people ignored graphic whores in favor of expanding the realm of interaction with a video game. Given gen 6 games are still being pushed out as new games with shiny coats of paint, I'd say that's about where it died for mainstream developers.

This right here.

I remember the days of when you bought a game and it was finished, bug free, and tested property. I remember the days of no DLC or Season pass bullshit. I remember the days of variety in gaming, lots of smaller dev houses pushing out interesting and new ideas to market, compared to today where we are down to a handful of makers all pushing out the same rehashes to games that already exist.

I remember the days of no long installs or patch times. I remember the days of couch coop. I remember the days of when E3 didn't suck and there was actual gameplay shown instead of trailers for games that might exist within three years. I remember the days when people used to care about awesome gameplay over counting pixels.

I'm not sure what the heck TC is banging on about.

Even NES 8 bit games had bugs and glitches but they couldn't be fixed. Also games were way easier to debug as they were much simpler so bugs didn't always effect ones ability to beat it though some pretty much were due to them. Also graphics had always been a big seller with gamers, when Amiga games dropped jaws due to superiority over consoles. Why do you think Arcades were so popular then? They were the showcase for future graphics on consoles. Even 16 bit consoles couldn't get a 1:1 Arcade port unless it was from older hardware. Graphics were more important to hype back then than they are now and were very important to gamers.

It's noteworthy to mention how far different the global economy is and how it effects the gaming market. In that sense, it'll never be the same

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#42  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Anyone believing Scorpio will change the gaming industries is a damn Fool.

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OP is a ****.

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#44  Edited By Litchie  Online
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...what?