Will The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword be Nintendo's Gran Turismo 5? (POLL)

Look at the parellels- both are games in long running revered franchises (although I'll :lol: at anyone who claims that GT as a franchise even comes close to Zelda), but GT5 was marked by having a notriously long development time, multiple delays, an almost absurd insistencce on perfection by the developers, and mixed messages being sent by the developers as to the game's final release date.

When the game launched, it was still a solid game, but it simply became the victim of its own hype- it could not live up to more than four years o expectations, that was realistically impossible.

Now let's look at Skyward Sword. The game has been in development since early 2005, meaning it's been in development for six long years. It's suffered two unofficial delays already, and another one looks impending, considering Miyamoto recently said that the game was 'just over half done,' barely a month after he said that development on the new Zelda game was 'going gangbusters,' and just a few months after he said that the game would have been done if they were using TP's graphical engine.

Also, Nintendo has, on several occassions, insisted that Skyward Sword will be the biggest, best Zelda game yet, and that it will only be released when it's 'perfect.'

See the parellels? Are we looking at another GT5-esque crash and burn here? Will the game be crippled by the weight of its own expectations? What do you guys thing?

Look at the parellels- both are games in long running revered franchises (although I'll :lol: at anyone who claims that GT as a franchise even comes close to Zelda), but GT5 was marked by having a notriously long development time, multiple delays, an almost absurd insistencce on perfection by the developers, and mixed messages being sent by the developers as to the game's final release date.

When the game launched, it was still a solid game, but it simply became the victim of its own hype- it could not live up to more than four years o expectations, that was realistically impossible.

Now let's look at Skyward Sword. The game has been in development since early 2005, meaning it's been in development for six long years. It's suffered two unofficial delays already, and another one looks impending, considering Miyamoto recently said that the game was 'just over half done,' barely a month after he said that development on the new Zelda game was 'going gangbusters,' and just a few months after he said that the game would have been done if they were using TP's graphical engine.

Also, Nintendo has, on several occassions, insisted that Skyward Sword will be the biggest, best Zelda game yet, and that it will only be released when it's 'perfect.'

See the parellels? Are we looking at another GT5-esque crash and burn here? Will the game be crippled by the weight of its own expectations? What do you guys thing?

Naa Charizard, GT5 is Sony's TP.:P

I don't really think SS has been in development since 05 (well, serious development anyway). Will the game disappoint? Maybe. Will it be a bad game? Naw, not at all. I think people just shouldn't overhype Zelda, it only leads to disappointment.

Naa Charizard, GT5 is Sony's TP.:P

sanim02

Look at the parellels- both are games in long running revered franchises (although I'll :lol: at anyone who claims that GT as a franchise even comes close to Zelda), but GT5 was marked by having a notriously long development time, multiple delays, an almost absurd insistencce on perfection by the developers, and mixed messages being sent by the developers as to the game's final release date.

When the game launched, it was still a solid game, but it simply became the victim of its own hype- it could not live up to more than four years o expectations, that was realistically impossible.

Now let's look at Skyward Sword. The game has been in development since early 2005, meaning it's been in development for six long years. It's suffered two unofficial delays already, and another one looks impending, considering Miyamoto recently said that the game was 'just over half done,' barely a month after he said that development on the new Zelda game was 'going gangbusters,' and just a few months after he said that the game would have been done if they were using TP's graphical engine.

Also, Nintendo has, on several occassions, insisted that Skyward Sword will be the biggest, best Zelda game yet, and that it will only be released when it's 'perfect.'

See the parellels? Are we looking at another GT5-esque crash and burn here? Will the game be crippled by the weight of its own expectations? What do you guys thing?

Naa Charizard, GT5 is Sony's TP.:P

sanim02

I don't really think SS has been in development since 05 (well, serious development anyway). Will the game disappoint? Maybe. Will it be a bad game? Naw, not at all. I think people just shouldn't overhype Zelda, it only leads to disappointment.

ActicEdge

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

I don't really think SS has been in development since 05 (well, serious development anyway). Will the game disappoint? Maybe. Will it be a bad game? Naw, not at all. I think people just shouldn't overhype Zelda, it only leads to disappointment.

ActicEdge

no tp was already

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Naa Charizard, GT5 is Sony's TP.:P

charizard1605

:lol:

Dude I thought you were Charizard not Electrode.:P

We'll see as Zelda gets shown off more. Personally, I'm not too interested as I was with TP, so it could soar above expectations.

And you gotta hand it to the developers, the Zelda series is one of the strictest when it comes to changing the formula. The series has been running off of an archetype for almost 2 decades.

[QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Look at the parellels- both are games in long running revered franchises (although I'll :lol: at anyone who claims that GT as a franchise even comes close to Zelda), but GT5 was marked by having a notriously long development time, multiple delays, an almost absurd insistencce on perfection by the developers, and mixed messages being sent by the developers as to the game's final release date.

When the game launched, it was still a solid game, but it simply became the victim of its own hype- it could not live up to more than four years o expectations, that was realistically impossible.

Now let's look at Skyward Sword. The game has been in development since early 2005, meaning it's been in development for six long years. It's suffered two unofficial delays already, and another one looks impending, considering Miyamoto recently said that the game was 'just over half done,' barely a month after he said that development on the new Zelda game was 'going gangbusters,' and just a few months after he said that the game would have been done if they were using TP's graphical engine.

Also, Nintendo has, on several occassions, insisted that Skyward Sword will be the biggest, best Zelda game yet, and that it will only be released when it's 'perfect.'

See the parellels? Are we looking at another GT5-esque crash and burn here? Will the game be crippled by the weight of its own expectations? What do you guys thing?

charizard1605

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="sanim02"]

Naa Charizard, GT5 is Sony's TP.:P

sanim02

:lol:

Dude I thought you were Charizard not Electrode.:P

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't really think SS has been in development since 05 (well, serious development anyway). Will the game disappoint? Maybe. Will it be a bad game? Naw, not at all. I think people just shouldn't overhype Zelda, it only leads to disappointment.

sanim02

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] Nintendon't ever mess up Zelda.ActicEdge

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't really think SS has been in development since 05 (well, serious development anyway). Will the game disappoint? Maybe. Will it be a bad game? Naw, not at all. I think people just shouldn't overhype Zelda, it only leads to disappointment.

funsohng

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

Well if you overhype it and your disappointed I mean.:P I'm not saying you suck Funsohng.:P ... Well we gotta see in Brotherhood because you declined my last invite you fool!:cry:

I have a bad feeling about SS. Looks reakky "sameish" but is taking way too long to develop for a standard definition game. Its not like they have to work kinks in the story out or anything! Same ole same ole. I hope the game turns out great because I haven't bought a game for my Wii in years but I think GS will give it a mercy 8.5 just because it carries the Zelda name...

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="sanim02"]

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

sanim02

Well if you overhype it and your disappointed I mean.:P I'm not saying you suck Funsohng.:P ... Well we gotta see in Brotherhood because you declined my last invite you fool!:cry:

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't really think SS has been in development since 05 (well, serious development anyway). Will the game disappoint? Maybe. Will it be a bad game? Naw, not at all. I think people just shouldn't overhype Zelda, it only leads to disappointment.

sanim02

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

I like TP (of course I never hyped it) but for some people, they build things up to big with all the hype they do for something that can easily fall short. I appreciate your future lack of U2 hype however :P

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I don't really think SS has been in development since 05 (well, serious development anyway). Will the game disappoint? Maybe. Will it be a bad game? Naw, not at all. I think people just shouldn't overhype Zelda, it only leads to disappointment.

ActicEdge

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

I like TP (of course I never hyped it) but for some people, they build things up to big with all the hype they do for something that can easily fall short. I appreciate your future lack of U2 hype however :P

I overhyped TP and it is still one of my favourite games of this gen.funsohng

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I'd love to believe that, but Spirit Tracks and Twilight Princess, while great games by any standard, were serious missteps, IMO, they lacked the charm and he soul of the previous games, and they caused the Zelda series to lose so much momentum that the series faces a very real threat of losing relevance permanently.charizard1605

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

I did, my heart remained unchanged (ie, as cold and unloving as before :P )Its my opinion that if the games want to have personality again they need to go back to Windwaker/Mish Cap levels. I don't find anything design inspiring or extremely positive about PH at all and I like the game.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="sanim02"]

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

sanim02

Well if you overhype it and your disappointed I mean.:P I'm not saying you suck Funsohng.:P ... Well we gotta see in Brotherhood because you declined my last invite you fool!:cry:

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="VideoGameGuy"] Nintendon't ever mess up Zelda.ActicEdge

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

How can it be when people hold Nintendo to an unreachable standard? It is as if Nintendo doesn't reinvent the wheel with every game they release , then it is a failure. That to me is a sign of true greatness.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]

I overhyped TP and it is still one of my favourite games of this gen.trollop_scat

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Ehh, overhyping sucks for the people who overhype it.:P I actually loved TP despite seeing what happend back in 06.:P I already know I will enjoy and probably even love SS as much as TP or even more and shall do the ethical thing and not run around going wild like how people had been with Uncharted 3 during the week of it's announcement.:P

charizard1605

I like TP (of course I never hyped it) but for some people, they build things up to big with all the hype they do for something that can easily fall short. I appreciate your future lack of U2 hype however :P

I have very little hype so as long as it doesn't suck there is no way I could be disappointed at this point.

[QUOTE="funsohng"]

I overhyped TP and it is still one of my favourite games of this gen.trollop_scat

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

Naa Charizard, GT5 is Sony's TP.:P

sanim02

Not really. TP as a 96/94% GameRakings average. In no way was it a critical flop.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I'd love to believe that, but Spirit Tracks and Twilight Princess, while great games by any standard, were serious missteps, IMO, they lacked the charm and he soul of the previous games, and they caused the Zelda series to lose so much momentum that the series faces a very real threat of losing relevance permanently.Captain_Lorelli

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

How can it be when people hold Nintendo to an unreachable standard? It is as if Nintendo doesn't reinvent the wheel with every game they release , then it is a failure. That to me is a sign of true greatness.

Its not my problem, that's Nintendo's. They don't need to make the series relevant in the sense that it will come out sell 4 million copes and make tons of money but other then that if they want Zelda to be a premiere franchise again they have to figure something out to break this cycle of "monotomy" people seem to think Zelda has.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

ActicEdge

I did, my heart remained unchanged (ie, as cold and unloving as before :P )Its my opinion that if the games want to have personality again they need to go back to Windwaker/Mish Cap levels. I don't find anything design inspiring or extremely positive about PH at all and I like the game.

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]

I overhyped TP and it is still one of my favourite games of this gen.Luxen90

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

Well both systems run standard def so its hard to tell the difference. Oh well kids don't care...

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]

I overhyped TP and it is still one of my favourite games of this gen.funsohng

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

[QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]

I overhyped TP and it is still one of my favourite games of this gen.funsohng

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

6 months? Impressive :P But yeah, don't take him seriously, its not worth it.

[QUOTE="Luxen90"][QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

trollop_scat

Well both systems run standard def so its hard to tell the difference. Oh well kids don't care...

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

ActicEdge

I did, my heart remained unchanged (ie, as cold and unloving as before :P )Its my opinion that if the games want to have personality again they need to go back to Windwaker/Mish Cap levels. I don't find anything design inspiring or extremely positive about PH at all and I like the game.

[QUOTE="funsohng"] I played it on Wii, it came out on Wii first, so I don't know why I should consider it last-gen. :? and you are calling the guy who just turned on his Wii after 6+ months of not playing a "King of the Sheep".ActicEdge

6 months? Impressive :P But yeah, don't take him seriously, its not worth it.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I like TP (of course I never hyped it) but for some people, they build things up to big with all the hype they do for something that can easily fall short. I appreciate your future lack of U2 hype however :P

ActicEdge

I have very little hype so as long as it doesn't suck there is no way I could be disappointed at this point.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="trollop_scat"]

This gen? Dude that game could've easily been on the Gamecube had they not intentionally pushed it back so Wii could have an early Zelda. You must be the King of the Sheep calling TP "current gen", ROFL!

ActicEdge

6 months? Impressive :P But yeah, don't take him seriously, its not worth it.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, Phantom Hourglass had such a lot of charm and soul that it was heart warming. Seriously, it tugged at the heartstrings just to play that game. And yes, that's exactly what I mean- the series needs to return to its previous stature- and Skyward Sword is what will 'make it or break it,' as the saying goes.funsohng

I did, my heart remained unchanged (ie, as cold and unloving as before :P )Its my opinion that if the games want to have personality again they need to go back to Windwaker/Mish Cap levels. I don't find anything design inspiring or extremely positive about PH at all and I like the game.

I played it on Wii, it came out on Wii first, so I don't know why I should consider it last-gen.funsohng

Because it was origionally built to be a GC game and it runs st standard definition. Its cool you're all about Nintendo bro but try and keep in mind that PC gamers are running "current gen" games at 25x16. 16>4, get it?

Oh yeah about that Brotherhood invite.... This is the first time I'm hearing about this. Did you do this yesterday or like 3 days ago? Because I left my PS3 on without playing at those days.

funsohng

Yeah I believe it was either yesterday morning or the day before. I was quite upset actually so I went back to the story and man, I love this game.:P

I like TP (of course I never hyped it) but for some people, they build things up to big with all the hype they do for something that can easily fall short. I appreciate your future lack of U2 hype however :P

ActicEdge

UC2?:P Oh and about that game, I actually stayed away from SW until I actually finished the game last year.:P As for UC3, ehh I mean it looks cool but my HYPE meter ain't even past half of what UC2 was.:P I'm more excited for SS (which I'm honestly not THAT hyped for) and I liked what I saw of Arkham City.:)

I still haven't played Brotherhood :cry:charizard1605

You should cop that sucker ASAP!:x

I really don't get why people act like TP was some kind of failure. It reviewed just as well as an any Zelda save for Ocarina of Time. The Gamecube version has the second highest GR average of any 3D Zelda.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] No, Phantom Hourglass had such a lot of charm and soul that it was heart warming. Seriously, it tugged at the heartstrings just to play that game. And yes, that's exactly what I mean- the series needs to return to its previous stature- and Skyward Sword is what will 'make it or break it,' as the saying goes.funsohng

I did, my heart remained unchanged (ie, as cold and unloving as before :P )Its my opinion that if the games want to have personality again they need to go back to Windwaker/Mish Cap levels. I don't find anything design inspiring or extremely positive about PH at all and I like the game.

didn't like the boat travel, I'm on the side of the fence that thinks if its not fun or intereting, it shouldn't exist. That boat sucked hard and so did travleing the ocean. The temple wasn't even that bad to me but among other things the game is much worse then minish cap. The minish cap world was condensed and alive, the Phantom world was barren and boring. Atleast imo.

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I did, my heart remained unchanged (ie, as cold and unloving as before :P )Its my opinion that if the games want to have personality again they need to go back to Windwaker/Mish Cap levels. I don't find anything design inspiring or extremely positive about PH at all and I like the game.

charizard1605

Its an excellent handheld Zelda. I was surprised by how well it pulled off complete stylus control.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] I still haven't played Brotherhood :cry:sanim02

You should cop that sucker ASAP!:x

[QUOTE="funsohng"][QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

I did, my heart remained unchanged (ie, as cold and unloving as before :P )Its my opinion that if the games want to have personality again they need to go back to Windwaker/Mish Cap levels. I don't find anything design inspiring or extremely positive about PH at all and I like the game.

charizard1605

You're entitled to your "wrong" opinion :P

Don't get me wrong, phantom does a lot of things right, it jst rubs me the wrong way on some key issues.

[QUOTE="Captain_Lorelli"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

coughandphantomhourglasswasn't??!??cough

Zelda hasn't been "relevant" in a while, the games come out, are well done and spark debate among fans but that's about it. The series hasn't been genre defining in some time.

ActicEdge

How can it be when people hold Nintendo to an unreachable standard? It is as if Nintendo doesn't reinvent the wheel with every game they release , then it is a failure. That to me is a sign of true greatness.

Its not my problem, that's Nintendo's. They don't need to make the series relevant in the sense that it will come out sell 4 million copes and make tons of money but other then that if they want Zelda to be a premiere franchise again they have to figure something out to break this cycle of "monotomy" people seem to think Zelda has.

"People" does not represent everyone. TP sold over 7 million copies and I have no doubt SS will do the same if not more. Sure new bells and whistles need to be added, but when dealing with a franchise that is as old and cherished as Zelda, one must be careful how much is changed to the game. Also, when did Zelda stop being a premiere franchise? What are some premiere franchises by System Wars standards?

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="funsohng"] if PH didn't have that entire "you have to go though this dungeon multiple times through the course of the game", I would say it would have been as good as Minish Cap.ActicEdge

You're entitled to your "wrong" opinion :P

Don't get me wrong, phantom does a lot of things right, it jst rubs me the wrong way on some key issues.