Will the next gen consoles even be able to max crysis 3?

[QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="percech"]You shouldn't expect a graphical leap from this gen until we're about 1 year into next gen.zeeshanhaider

No chance in hell. That linear onrails corridor shooter will have nothing on Crysis 3 and no game on next gen consoles. There I said it.

No one on here know's what a corridor is.  And everyone throws around linear and on rails like it's a bad thing. Crysis is a tech demo for Crytek's middleware first and a game second, the game's suck.

Killzone 4 will probably blow Crysis 3 out of the water on a raw output level, and I highly doubt Crysis 3 can't be maxed out with a 7850 on PC.

I highly doubt Crysis 3 can't be maxed out with a 7850 on PC.

Chozofication

This might give a clue.

Very High Quality at 1080p. Graph from anandtech. I think there'll be a few compromises here and there.

Maaan that's crazy.  But that's alpha MP, so we'll see.  At the very least it'll perform better than that.

Is thread a joke? Console games are way better optimized than PC. On PC you never see the true power of your hardware. PSnext with an 8 core cpu, at least 4GB GDDR5, and a 1.8gflops gpu will max crysis like the joke it is. If you want graphics look at Killzone 4 feb 20 :D

Maaan that's crazy.  But that's alpha MP, so we'll see.  At the very least it'll perform better than that.

Chozofication

The graph is probably worst-case. Still, I didn't even bother to try with my current PC.....just so I can avoid the tears. :lol:

I'm hoping the SP will be less taxing. But, the early videos for SP showed a lot more graphics candy. My PC will be hitting 4 years this year. That means I'll pass this PC to my kid and I assemble a new one for me. I usually base the specs of a new PC on how it'll run a particluar game. It looks like Crysis 3 is it.  

Is thread a joke? Console games are way better optimized than PC. On PC you never see the true power of your hardware. PSnext with an 8 core cpu, at least 4GB GDDR5, and a 1.8gflops gpu will max crysis like the joke it is. If you want graphics look at Killzone 4 feb 20 :D

KillzoneSnake

Have you seen the new KZ4?

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Maaan that's crazy.  But that's alpha MP, so we'll see.  At the very least it'll perform better than that.

jun_aka_pekto

The graph is probably worst-case. Still, I didn't even bother to try with my current PC.....just so I can avoid the tears. :lol:

I'm hoping the SP will be less taxing. But, the early videos for SP showed a lot more graphics candy. My PC will be hitting 4 years this year. That means I'll pass this PC to my kid and I assemble a new one for me. I usually base the specs of a new PC on how it'll run a particluar game. It looks like Crysis 3 is it.  

Yeah.  It's probably bare bones optimized at that point, plus alpha, plus MP...

Single player will be A LOT better optimized. 

I mean, 690 for locked 30fps?  Come on now.

Crysis 3 is a multiplat. Regardless of how many resource hogging DX 11 effects it has tacked on to appease hardcore hermits, at the end of the day it's poly count, scope, ai- basically its entire foundation is built to run on an X360 or PS3. 

When you see Killzone 4- a true next gen game built for next gen consoles it's gonna melt your face.

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

Is thread a joke? Console games are way better optimized than PC. On PC you never see the true power of your hardware. PSnext with an 8 core cpu, at least 4GB GDDR5, and a 1.8gflops gpu will max crysis like the joke it is. If you want graphics look at Killzone 4 feb 20 :D

jun_aka_pekto

Have you seen the new KZ4?

No but i seen kz2-3 running on way weaker hardware. Dont worry, 10 days to go.

When you see Killzone 4- a true next gen game built for next gen consoles it's gonna melt your face.

Pray_to_me

I'll believe it when I see it.

No but i seen kz2-3 running on way weaker hardware. Dont worry, 10 days to go.

KillzoneSnake

I have KZ3. It doesn't matter if it ran on weaker hardware. The bottom line is it still underwhelmed.

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But, I hope you guys are right with KZ4.

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

[QUOTE="Cranler"] I have a feeling KZ 4 will rival Crysis 3 on pc or be close at the very least.Chozofication

No chance in hell. That linear onrails corridor shooter will have nothing on Crysis 3 and no game on next gen consoles. There I said it.

No one on here know's what a corridor is.  And everyone throws around linear and on rails like it's a bad thing. Crysis is a tech demo for Crytek's middleware first and a game second, the game's suck.

Killzone 4 will probably blow Crysis 3 out of the water on a raw output level, and I highly doubt Crysis 3 can't be maxed out with a 7850 on PC.

Keep on dreaming. Everyone here knows the capabilities of GG and Crytek nad let me tell you Crytek is leagues ahead technically and artistically. KZ4 has first to beat Crysis before thinking it self against Crysis 3.

And yes, everybody knows what corridor is. See even C3 and KZ4 isn't even out yet and cows are already in DC mode. All hail Crytek. And yes linear and onrails is BAD, period.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

No chance in hell. That linear onrails corridor shooter will have nothing on Crysis 3 and no game on next gen consoles. There I said it.

zeeshanhaider

No one on here know's what a corridor is.  And everyone throws around linear and on rails like it's a bad thing. Crysis is a tech demo for Crytek's middleware first and a game second, the game's suck.

Killzone 4 will probably blow Crysis 3 out of the water on a raw output level, and I highly doubt Crysis 3 can't be maxed out with a 7850 on PC.

Keep on dreaming. Everyone here knows the capabilities of GG and Crytek nad let me tell you Crytek is leagues ahead technically and artistically. KZ4 has first to beat Crysis before thinking it self against Crysis 3.

And yes, everybody knows what corridor is. See even C3 and KZ4 isn't even out yet and cows are already in DC mode. All hail Crytek. And yes linear and onrails is BAD, period.

LOOOL. Crysis 2 is HIDEOUS.  Crysis and Crysis 3 look good though, nothing special artistically though.

Some of the best games of all time are linear / on rails.  Besides, there's nothing open ended about that tech demo Crysis 3.

You obviously don't know what a corridoor is, Killzone isn't doom.

Although, perhaps I jumped the gun a little.  Maybe Killzone 4 will just be comparable to Crysis 3 running perfectly on PC, it certainly won't "blow it out of the water".  That was just that PS4 hype train talking.

Crysis 3 looks to be pushing the PC pretty hard...

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

No one on here know's what a corridor is.  And everyone throws around linear and on rails like it's a bad thing. Crysis is a tech demo for Crytek's middleware first and a game second, the game's suck.

Killzone 4 will probably blow Crysis 3 out of the water on a raw output level, and I highly doubt Crysis 3 can't be maxed out with a 7850 on PC.

Chozofication

Keep on dreaming. Everyone here knows the capabilities of GG and Crytek nad let me tell you Crytek is leagues ahead technically and artistically. KZ4 has first to beat Crysis before thinking it self against Crysis 3.

And yes, everybody knows what corridor is. See even C3 and KZ4 isn't even out yet and cows are already in DC mode. All hail Crytek. And yes linear and onrails is BAD, period.

LOOOL. Crysis 2 is HIDEOUS.  Crysis and Crysis 3 look good though, nothing special artistically though.

Some of the best games of all time are linear / on rails.  Besides, there's nothing open ended about that tech demo Crysis 3.

You obviously don't know what a corridoor is, Killzone isn't doom.

Although, perhaps I jumped the gun a little.  Maybe Killzone 4 will just be comparable to Crysis 3 running perfectly on PC, it certainly won't "blow it out of the water".  That was just that PS4 hype train talking.

Crysis 3 looks to be pushing the PC pretty hard...

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

Keep on dreaming. Everyone here knows the capabilities of GG and Crytek nad let me tell you Crytek is leagues ahead technically and artistically. KZ4 has first to beat Crysis before thinking it self against Crysis 3.

And yes, everybody knows what corridor is. See even C3 and KZ4 isn't even out yet and cows are already in DC mode. All hail Crytek. And yes linear and onrails is BAD, period.

faizan_faizan

LOOOL. Crysis 2 is HIDEOUS.  Crysis and Crysis 3 look good though, nothing special artistically though.

Some of the best games of all time are linear / on rails.  Besides, there's nothing open ended about that tech demo Crysis 3.

You obviously don't know what a corridoor is, Killzone isn't doom.

Although, perhaps I jumped the gun a little.  Maybe Killzone 4 will just be comparable to Crysis 3 running perfectly on PC, it certainly won't "blow it out of the water".  That was just that PS4 hype train talking.

Crysis 3 looks to be pushing the PC pretty hard...

What do you mean do I even common sense?

Crysis CEO said "don't be surprised that Crysis 3 on PC will be the benchmark for PS4 720. All games should look par." And that the PS4 should be able to run Crysis 3 on ultra 1080P at 45 to 60 frames per second.caseypayne69

Yerli is also a notorious liar and an ego maniac. 

60fps Crysis 3 sounds about right though.  We'll still see many games at 30fps however.

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Crysis CEO said "don't be surprised that Crysis 3 on PC will be the benchmark for PS4 720. All games should look par." And that the PS4 should be able to run Crysis 3 on ultra 1080P at 45 to 60 frames per second.Chozofication

Yerli is also a notorious liar and an ego maniac. 

60fps Crysis 3 sounds about right though.  We'll still see many games at 30fps however.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="caseypayne69"]Crysis CEO said "don't be surprised that Crysis 3 on PC will be the benchmark for PS4 720. All games should look par." And that the PS4 should be able to run Crysis 3 on ultra 1080P at 45 to 60 frames per second.faizan_faizan

Yerli is also a notorious liar and an ego maniac. 

60fps Crysis 3 sounds about right though.  We'll still see many games at 30fps however.

You asked me about having sense, does it make sense to have 4x or more textures but to blur them with 720p?

Open world isn't a genre.

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"][QUOTE="Chozofication"]

Yerli is also a notorious liar and an ego maniac. 

60fps Crysis 3 sounds about right though.  We'll still see many games at 30fps however.

Chozofication

You asked me about having sense, does it make sense to have 4x or more textures but to blur them with 720p?

Open world isn't a genre.

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

[QUOTE="faizan_faizan"] And 720p.faizan_faizan

You asked me about having sense, does it make sense to have 4x or more textures but to blur them with 720p?

Open world isn't a genre.

It means if you have textures tailored to a resolution of 1080p, but have something running in 720p, you won't be able to see those higher res textures, and you're wasting processing power.

Open world design is a *design* choice.  Sandbox would be a genre.

I would be surprised if they could. I mean if they're rumored to have around 7800's series of power in the GPU, and the game needs a 680/7900's series to max it would be close.

sure...the consoles are a closed system and developer can do wonder on them. we will see games that look better then max out crysis 3, on the consoles, 3 years from now.

[QUOTE="zeeshanhaider"]

[QUOTE="Chozofication"]

No one on here know's what a corridor is.  And everyone throws around linear and on rails like it's a bad thing. Crysis is a tech demo for Crytek's middleware first and a game second, the game's suck.

Killzone 4 will probably blow Crysis 3 out of the water on a raw output level, and I highly doubt Crysis 3 can't be maxed out with a 7850 on PC.

Chozofication

Keep on dreaming. Everyone here knows the capabilities of GG and Crytek nad let me tell you Crytek is leagues ahead technically and artistically. KZ4 has first to beat Crysis before thinking it self against Crysis 3.

And yes, everybody knows what corridor is. See even C3 and KZ4 isn't even out yet and cows are already in DC mode. All hail Crytek. And yes linear and onrails is BAD, period.

LOOOL. Crysis 2 is HIDEOUS.  Crysis and Crysis 3 look good though, nothing special artistically though.

Some of the best games of all time are linear / on rails.  Besides, there's nothing open ended about that tech demo Crysis 3.

You obviously don't know what a corridoor is, Killzone isn't doom.

Although, perhaps I jumped the gun a little.  Maybe Killzone 4 will just be comparable to Crysis 3 running perfectly on PC, it certainly won't "blow it out of the water".  That was just that PS4 hype train talking.

Crysis 3 looks to be pushing the PC pretty hard...

What's so good about Killzone artistically? It's just all the gey spread everywhere, same as Gears terrible terrible art direction.

And yes at least to me C3 is pretty great artistically. It's not easy to that Urban Jungle setting like they did.

Anyways, when talking about things technically, linear is much easier to achieve than open world and also less taxing on the system. I'll say it again no game on next gen consoles will compare to C3 maxed out on PC, period.

Less than 1080p, more than 720p most likely.

Of course. Crysis 2 on consoles can still compete with PC (obviously inferior, but not leagues below like some herms like to think) RR360DD

It's not even running on the same tech as the pc version :|  In fact, the tech used on consoles isn't even supported any more on the PC version, and the next level up from the console tech was dropped as well.  The more you know...

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Of course. Crysis 2 on consoles can still compete with PC (obviously inferior, but not leagues below like some herms like to think) wis3boi

It's not even running on the same tech as the pc version :|  In fact, the tech used on consoles isn't even supported any more on the PC version, and the next level up from the console tech was dropped as well.  The more you know...

I hope so