will the next xbox fail more or less than the 360?

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#51 spiderluck
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Other than the old RROD, how did 360 fail?

PAL360
And even RROD may turn out to be of less consequence than ps3 fanboys would like to believe...MS did right by their customers and that alone generated a fair amount of goodwill...That will translate into continued success going forward
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#52 PAL360
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Other than the old RROD, how did 360 fail?

spiderluck

And even RROD may turn out to be of less consequence than ps3 fanboys would like to believe...MS did right by their customers and that alone generated a fair amount of goodwill...That will translate into continued success going forward

To be honest, i think 360 failed for not having a Playstation logo.

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#53 Riverwolf007
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maybe 3rd time will be the charm with ms like it was with sony.

the ps3 is rock solid while the ps1 and two were horribly shoddy.

hopefully ms can work out the bugs as well as sony did.

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#54 burgeg
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The 360 was a MASSIVE success. The real question is, will the next xbox have as much success as the 360? The answer is probably not. It's unlikely Sony will let MS have a year headstart this time, and it's unlikely Sony will mess up with the price like they did with PS3. I can't see Sony giving MS the kind of advantages they handed to MS for the early years of this gen. I can't see the net xbox being as big a success as the 360, and I expect Sony to reclaim their rightful place at the top.

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#55 burgeg
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The 360 was a MASSIVE success. The real question is, will the next xbox have as much success as the 360? The answer is probably not. It's unlikely Sony will let MS have a year headstart this time, and it's unlikely Sony will mess up with the price like they did with PS3. I can't see Sony giving MS the kind of advantages they handed to MS for the early years of this gen. I can't see the net xbox being as big a success as the 360, and I expect Sony to reclaim their rightful place at the top.

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#56 YoshiYogurt
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It will probably do a little better or maybe worse. It's going to hard to make a console worse than the 360 though.
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#57 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Sh*t, if the 360 failed, then the PS3 must have crashed and burned. It's in last place, after all :lol:

Davekeeh


The huge headstart the Xbox has had over the PS3 never happened right? LOL

PS2 had a huge head start, and a previous gen to become the name in console gaming. Make all the excuses you want, fact is, Sony had nintendo on the ropes and let an upstart wrestle market share away from them by being arrogant. "120 frames per second, 4 D; $599 US dollars; the next gen starts when we say so". They were brought bac to earth and the company is struggling.
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#58 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Other than the old RROD, how did 360 fail?

spiderluck
And even RROD may turn out to be of less consequence than ps3 fanboys would like to believe...MS did right by their customers and that alone generated a fair amount of goodwill...That will translate into continued success going forward

Sony wouldnt do it when my second PS2 DRE'd on me that's for sure. All of them are guilty of negatives because they are run by humans and we're not perfect.
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#59 todd2r_Partdeux
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Sh*t, if the 360 failed, then the PS3 must have crashed and burned. It's in last place, after all :lol:

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#60 mariokart64fan
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the 360 did fail in terms of sales but profitability , not so much

the ps3 failed in every aspect,

the wii won period and to answer , its to early to tell but i dont like microsofts track record!

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#61 Michael0134567
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Sh*t, if the 360 failed, then the PS3 must have crashed and burned. It's in last place, after all :lol:

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This thread is beautiful
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#63 delta3074
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imo its pretty hard to top the 360's failure (RROD, no games, etc), but now that bungie wont be centerstage of xbox next gen i get the feeling it will fail harder.

what do you think SW?

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360 hasn't failed, it's still in second place in sales ahead of the Ps3 and in the real world the 360 has more games than the Ps3 so if the 360 has no games then the Ps3 is in a really sorry state, also, the 360 has netted MS more bank than the Ps3 has for SONY, Yes the RROD was a proble but MS ponied up with a 3 year warranty and reimbursed everybody who had paid for repairs before the warranty came into effect, not excusing it because there is no justification for rushing a botched console to market just to get the jump on your opponent but i thought MS handled it rather well.
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#64 rjdofu
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Sh*t, if the 360 failed, then the PS3 must have crashed and burned. It's in last place, after all :lol:

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#65 deactivated-5d7fb49ded561
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Other than the old RROD, how did 360 fail?

PAL360


1. RROD

2. Motorola patent violation, which caused the 360 to be banned in Germany and soon the rest of the world

3. Lems have to keep paying for Xbox Live in order to use Netflix etc and unlock the multiplayer portion of their already purchased games

4. Only 3 exclusive IP's worth mentioning

5. PS3 exclusives outscore 360 exclusives on both Metacritic and Gamespot and PS3 exclusives receive much more awards

6. Xbox Live has a much smaller userbase than PSN, and since Lems care so much about the numbers this means that PSN is 100x better than Xbox Live

7. 360 uses more electricity

8. Dashboard is cluttered with ads and will soon support interactive ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqwOIByMAc which means that you can actually share ads with your friends

9. PlayStation 3 controller is charged by an USB cable, 360 uses batteries

10. PlayStation 3 users can upgrade the PS3's hard drive with drives that have higher capacities and faster rpm speeds, while the Xbox only supports Microsoft's proprietary HDD model

11. 360 still uses DVD format, which means alot of games have multiple disks and DVD's aren't durable unlike the allmighty Blu-ray disks

12. 360 can't run games like God of War III or Heavy Rain

13. 360 doesn't have games that look as good as PS3 exclusives

14. Has had a huge headstart over the PS3 yet struggles to keep it's 2nd place

15. PS3 sells much more consoles on a weekly basis

16. Went 85% casual with Kinect

There are just too many fails

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#66 CTR360
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the 360 ha

The 360 hasnt failed...

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same here
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#67 Malta_1980
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well hardware probs aside, the 360 did better in everything compared to the XBOX... sold more, had improved online service and a better games library..

I wouldnt call that a failure..

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#68 PinnacleGamingP
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i guess everyone agrees with me, excellent thread guys the lemmings really got their butts hurt with this one
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#69 AmazingGaming
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i guess everyone agrees with me, excellent thread guys the lemmings really got their butts hurt with this onePinnacleGamingP
Playstation fans have been scary this console generation. PS3 is worse then PS2 in literally every way, and lost in every category to either 360 or Wii or both. Yet you continue to celebrate having won nothing. Very weird.
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#70 Heil68
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I think with MS dropping core and going 99?% casual has set them up nicely for Kinect(lol) 2.0. I think they'll do fine next gen, but I wont be buying it, that's for sure.
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#71 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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imo its pretty hard to top the 360's failure (RROD, no games, etc), but now that bungie wont be centerstage of xbox next gen i get the feeling it will fail harder.

what do you think SW?

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MS stole the thunder from Sony this gen, how is that failing? Most of the 360s success stems from how ms treated the original Xbox. The innovation was there in that system, whereas ps2 was just rehash mostly. Now, ironically, the way MS is treating the Xbox TODAY, will affect the gamers perception of their next console--which will not be good. They've undoubtedly lost a lot of people do to lack of games and Kinect.
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#72 lundy86_4
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i guess everyone agrees with me, excellent thread guys the lemmings really got their butts hurt with this onePinnacleGamingP

The thread failed hard :lol:

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#73 tenaka2
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if it's a kinect 2 box then it will fail badly for core gamers.

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#74 CaseyWegner
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Sh*t, if the 360 failed, then the PS3 must have crashed and burned. It's in last place, after all :lol:

Davekeeh


The huge headstart the Xbox has had over the PS3 never happened right? LOL

i think when sony says something like "next gen doesn't start until we say so" and the claims by cows here that the ps3 will surpass the 360 in sales in one year, the year head start argument doesn't sound as strong as it should.

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#75 deactivated-608a2eb908da4
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imo its pretty hard to top the 360's failure (RROD, no games, etc)

PinnacleGamingP

Xbox Live wasn't down for 24 days due to a DDoS. Also, those "geniuses" at PSN still having figured out how to let people chat with each other while playing different games.

No games? Please...... there is so much fail in that statement that any sort of reply would be a waste of my time.

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#76 EzcapeTheFate
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Went 85% casual with KinectDavekeeh
Only 85%? Cows have been saying it was 99% for the longest time here.
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#77 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"] Went 85% casual with KinectEzcapeTheFate
Only 85%? Cows have been saying it was 99% for the longest time here.

Na, they've been assimilated. It's 100%. If you own an Xbox you are a casual gamer. Kinect and COD are as casual as it gets.
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#78 deactivated-5ac102a4472fe
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In many ways the 360 were the market leader, and trendsetter this gen, so I would not call it a failure (altho the reliability was somewhat horrible).

Basicly if we judge MS from its 2 console cycle, they have been WAY above average, they have never made a failure.

If the next one will do as well? Im unsure, While I do tend to get a single console every gen, MS have not yet sold me on thier console (atleast from the rumor mill) While I from the outset have greater faith in Sony (or rather have faith that Sony does not make the same mistakes again), and Nintendo, who while delivering a lower spec console, again brings interresting concepts, and atleast from the outlook seems to appeal more to the "core" gamer (yeah we loathe the word, but the industry seems to love it).

So it all depends on MS, both on the way they market the next console, what hidden costs and premiums are hidden within their ideas, and how well they support games (their firstparty has gotten prtty abysmal). But maybe the lack of exclusives we see, is because MS dictated the focus towards the next gen, to make sure to have enough games at launch (which IS a system killer, if they fail to do so).

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#79 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]i guess everyone agrees with me, excellent thread guys the lemmings really got their butts hurt with this onelundy86_4

The thread failed hard :lol:

actually the thread was pretty successful. 360, not so much
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#80 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"]i guess everyone agrees with me, excellent thread guys the lemmings really got their butts hurt with this onePinnacleGamingP

The thread failed hard :lol:

actually the thread was pretty successful. 360, not so much

Nope.

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#81 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

The thread failed hard :lol:

actually the thread was pretty successful. 360, not so much

Nope.

wow you sound mad
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#82 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] actually the thread was pretty successful. 360, not so muchPinnacleGamingP

Nope.

wow you sound mad

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It takes more than prepubescence to get me mad, sorry;)

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#83 TunaRoot
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The 360 never failed. But regarding the next system I see it doing fine.
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#84 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Nope.

wow you sound mad

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It takes more than prepubescence to get me mad, sorry;)

take it easy with the insults i understand your mad but this is just a forum
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#85 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"] wow you sound madPinnacleGamingP

areyouseven.gif

It takes more than prepubescence to get me mad, sorry;)

take it easy with the insults i understand your mad but this is just a forum

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Hehe. Twice in the last half hour, that I have had to use this.

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#86 PinnacleGamingP
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="PinnacleGamingP"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

areyouseven.gif

It takes more than prepubescence to get me mad, sorry;)

take it easy with the insults i understand your mad but this is just a forum

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Hehe. Twice in the last half hour, that I have had to use this.

allow me to explain
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lundy, you're wasting your time with pinnacle. He's just trolling when he ignores all the responses against his original premise.

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#88 lundy86_4
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lundy, you're wasting your time with pinnacle. He's just trolling when he ignores all the responses against his original premise.

AdobeArtist

I know. I'm just really bored right now, and it's fun to watch him think he's making somebody mad. It's a sad day, when this is how bored I am :P

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#89 kingtito
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Other than the old RROD, how did 360 fail?


1. RROD

2. Motorola patent violation, which caused the 360 to be banned in Germany and soon the rest of the world

3. Lems have to keep paying for Xbox Live in order to use Netflix etc and unlock the multiplayer portion of their already purchased games

4. Only 3 exclusive IP's worth mentioning

5. PS3 exclusives outscore 360 exclusives on both Metacritic and Gamespot and PS3 exclusives receive much more awards

6. Xbox Live has a much smaller userbase than PSN, and since Lems care so much about the numbers this means that PSN is 100x better than Xbox Live

7. 360 uses more electricity

8. Dashboard is cluttered with ads and will soon support interactive ads: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixqwOIByMAc which means that you can actually share ads with your friends

9. PlayStation 3 controller is charged by an USB cable, 360 uses batteries

10. PlayStation 3 users can upgrade the PS3's hard drive with drives that have higher capacities and faster rpm speeds, while the Xbox only supports Microsoft's proprietary HDD model

11. 360 still uses DVD format, which means alot of games have multiple disks and DVD's aren't durable unlike the allmighty Blu-ray disks

12. 360 can't run games like God of War III or Heavy Rain

13. 360 doesn't have games that look as good as PS3 exclusives

14. Has had a huge headstart over the PS3 yet struggles to keep it's 2nd place

15. PS3 sells much more consoles on a weekly basis

16. Went 85% casual with Kinect

There are just too many fails

You're just an idiot. That's all
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#90 sonic1564
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I don't know what you're talking about:

1) More games than the PS3

2) Did fix the RROD problems by offering the 3 year warranty and the slim

3) Made cows jelly (which is proven in this forum alone)

4) Improved online

5) Actually changed the controller design

Here's what the PS3 did:

1) Launch at $600

2) Ripping off other franchises (Uncharted is a rip off of Gears of War and Indiana Jones, PSASBR)

3) Ripped off the Wii mote

4) False claims (120 FPS, true 1080p, and 4D gaming)

5) Cared more about the graphics than gameplay

Who won there?

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#91 MonsieurX
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I don't know what you're talking about:

1) More games than the PS3

2) Did fix the RROD problems by offering the 3 year warranty and the slim

3) Made cows jelly (which is proven in this forum alone)

4) Improved online

5) Actually changed the controller design

Here's what the PS3 did:

1) Launch at $600

2) Ripping off other franchises (Uncharted is a rip off of Gears of War and Indiana Jones, PSASBR)

3) Ripped off the Wii mote

4) False claims (120 FPS, true 1080p, and 4D gaming)

5) Cared more about the graphics than gameplay

Who won there?

sonic1564
Me.
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#92 YearoftheSnake5
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Wut?

The 360 hasn't failed. Sure, it's not the most reliable system in history, but I'm pretty sure it's making Microsoft money at this point. If Microsoft has any smart people working for it at all, they should be trying to avoid another RROD disaster.

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#94 GOGOGOGURT
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Cow delusional circle jerk thread?