Will the NGP really be as powerful as a PS3?

All the BS Sony spat about the cell being such a powerhouse. Now we find out that a simple mobile phone processor is just as powerful and EASY to program for on top of that. All you needed was a 4 core 1 Ghz processor and the cell with all it's SPEs falls to it's knees. What a hyped up piece of garbage the cell turned out to be. The only thing the cell is good at is decoding high def video streams, in other words for blu-ray movie playback.

That brings us to blu-ray. Sony marketing tried to make us believe it was needed this gen. You got that, we *needed* blu-ray back in 2006, lol! We're in 2011 and we still haven't seen one game that really benefits from blu-ray. Maybe next gen.

Anyway, so the NGP will be able to run PS3 ports and obviously the NGP doesn't have a blu-ray player. How is this possible? Maybe because blu-ray is a hyped up piece of crap that does absolutely nothing for gaming?

After realizing that the NGP is capable of all this, it's easy to know that the lemmings were right all along. Of course the 360 can handle anything the PS3 can output including those precious exclusives. And it can do it just fine with DVD!

I'm not hating on the PS3 or the NGP. I may pick up an NGP and I think the PS3 is a fine console. I'm just disgusted by the misinformation campaign that Sony embarked on. And it's rather sad that so many gamers didn't know any better. I mean there was a time where people actually argued about the PS3 having support for dual monitor at 1080p each at 120 fps. People actually believed it and argued about it on these boards. In practice the PS3 has trouble even keeping 720p and 30 fps.

Well, let's lay these ridiculous myths to bed forever. As it turns out the PS3, 360 and NGP are about equal in power. And blu-ray is GREAT, for playing movies.

No & plz use the sticky

As powerful? Nope, unless it wants a 5 second battery life.

Will it look good and be ahead of the 3DS? Yes.

No & plz use the sticky

painguy1

As powerful as the PS3? No

As powerful as the 360? Yes

Of course it won't be but it does look really impressive for a handheld.

Its still better than any portable device on the market, according to john cormack it about a generation ahead of everything else. I'll take his word for it

As powerful as the PS3? No

As powerful as the 360? Yes

RickyRevolver

lmao I was thinking this (a bit jokingly) myself. Seriously though it will look amazing and on par with some games this gen, but not up there with the best of the best.

As powerful as the PS3? No

As powerful as the 360? Yes

RickyRevolver

Lemmings won't like this lol.

and we still haven't seen one game that really benefits from blu-ray. Maybe next gen.
alexfla

Stopped reading there.

It's called MGSIV

imho the ngp is more powerful than the 360. and sony said the power is now in your hands, i believe that

No, but it seems as though it's close enough to replicate all the effects with reduced geometry/texture resolutions.

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As powerful as the PS3? No

As powerful as the 360? Yes

Kingpin0114

Lemmings won't like this lol.

It'd be pretty dub if they got mad at a hyperbolic statement like that.

imho the ngp is more powerful than the 360. and sony said the power is now in your hands, i believe that

_SWAG_

Of course you do.

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imho the ngp is more powerful than the 360. and sony said the power is now in your hands, i believe that

Kingpin0114

Of course you do.

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and we still haven't seen one game that really benefits from blu-ray. Maybe next gen.
davidkamayor

Stopped reading there.

It's called MGSIV

As powerful as the PS3? No

As powerful as the 360? Yes

RickyRevolver

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As powerful as the PS3? No

As powerful as the 360? Yes

alexfla

Nice counter attack :P

That brings us to blu-ray. Sony marketing tried to make us believe it was needed this gen. You got that, we *needed* blu-ray back in 2006, lol! We're in 2011 and we still haven't seen one game that really benefits from blu-ray. Maybe next gen.

alexfla

You also need to realize a lot of the hype for the PS3 came from 2005. "Teh power of ta cellzzz" was relevent back then because back in 2005 it was considered to be an amazing piece of technology. 6 years later and you're not surprised a handheld can achieve nearly the same visuals? Do people not realize how fast technology is advancing? I could go build a PC that is 5x stronger then the PS3, anybody could if they wanted and had the money.

No & plz use the sticky

painguy1

No & plz use the sticky

painguy1

Yes it will. Also the PS3 can do 120 FPS, all 1080p native, and has 4-D games :lol:.

No chance.

no, people who saw it at the event the other day said nah.

Now we find out that a simple mobile phone processor is just as powerful and EASY to program for on top of that.

alexfla

Use your head man.

Of course it is not as powerful.

Can it output graphics that look on par with PS3 graphics? It look that way so far.

Keep in mind though, the PS3 needs to output up to 1080p in some cases. The NGP has a tiny screen with a much lower resolution which in turn requires much less horsepower to produce those gorgeous vids we have seen of Uncharted portable.

Be as powerful, no.

Look as good (on a 5 in screen), yes.

5in screen is a huge factor here.

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Now we find out that a simple mobile phone processor is just as powerful and EASY to program for on top of that.

Teufelhuhn

It's as powerfull as the ps3 in the sense that it can produce similar graphics on a 5" screen.

No as powerful as the PS3, but more powerful than the Xbox360. ;)

Heck, didn't we see a tech demo of MGS4, just so that Kojima could rub in the 360 fanbases' face that the NGP could run a game 360 couldn't ? :P

No, but it looks pretty close, and the resolution is lower (560p) so it wouldn't need as much power.SaltyMeatballs

The cell is an incredible powerhouse and no the NGP is not as powerful as it. But it is by far the most powerful thing you can fit in your pocket and the games might look as good as PS3 games because it doesn't have to drive as many pixels and the screen is so pixel-dense.

Based on the Uncharted presentation, no but pretty darn close.

Troll post?

As far as console CPUs go the Cell remains quite powerful and is certainly more competent overall than the Xenon (just ask B3D). It also remains a floating point beast, although certainly it isn't as impressive there as it used to be..technology moves on.

The NGP itself will likely be similar to the PSP in that pixel for pixel it is likely to rival the PS3. Sony like any good marketer will spin its products' positives as hard as possible to emphasize them even more, but no: it won't be as powerful as the PS3 overall.

That being said what they have accomplished with it is quite impressive as is, even keeping in mind advancements in technology since then they're releasing something which is capable of producing graphics far superior to the PSP on a screen with approximately four times the resolution and in a virtually identicle form factor.

Anyway, so the NGP will be able to run PS3 ports and obviously the NGP doesn't have a blu-ray player. How is this possible? Maybe because blu-ray is a hyped up piece of crap that does absolutely nothing for gaming?

After realizing that the NGP is capable of all this, it's easy to know that the lemmings were right all along. Of course the 360 can handle anything the PS3 can output including those precious exclusives. And it can do it just fine with DVD!

alexfla

Yep..troll post. The NGP in part doesn't have Blu-Ray because a blue laser is necessarily going to take a good bit of power to run, it in part won't run it because of heat reasons, it in part won't run it because they tried disc-based media with the PSP and found the tradeoff wasn't really worth it, and it won't run it more than anything else because they're too big to fit in the thing for chrissakes.

Oh and DVDs have represented a limitation for the 360. Maybe not in every game, but I can certainly think of some where it presented issues.