Will the PS3 eventually catch up to the 360 in terms of sales?

The PS3 will surpass the 360s WW sales in 2011.

You are completely missing the point of my post. I was illustrating how ludicrous "theories" of sales padding are when you don't factor in all the circumstances. Like 360 having long time free repair support. You trying to claim 5 million people rebought instead of using a free alternative is nothing short of irrational, and indictive of desparation when you grasp for straws. You don't have a shred of evidence to sopport your claim except maybe a "gut feeling". Problem being that feeling would be slanted by a bias you display with every word of your post.

And speaking of grasping for straws, the disc tray is a "last gen" feature? Really? So somehow, how the disc gets into the machine makes a difference in the complexity of the code data, or how its processed by the CPU and GPU? Last I checked, the only actual qualifiers for next gen from a technical standpoint (keep in mind from a marketing standpoint what ever model replaces its predecessor is the next gen system) is the CPU and GPU architecture. That's after all what runs the games, not the method of inserting the media.

AdobeArtist

And your "gut feeling" is more right than mine because you think 3 year warrantee excludes all repurchases during that time? Were is your proof to show me that 30% million of rodd customers still play on their first machine? What was that saying, fool me once, twice, three times...? Look another theory: If I follow the 3 year warrantee and my system breaks down once again after I have already sent it in.What do you think is going through the peoples minds? I could buy a new one or send it in and give it another try. I heard some things aren't covered on the warrantee. I'll claim its more than 5 million people bought a second 360.

The disk tray. That picure is bogus. Look at the size of that thing, the disk tray takes up a quarter of it. If I were MS I would look at how the others have done it, PS1 slim, GC, PS2. Don't put a disk tray in it, it just takes up more space and that makes it so stupid. Other minor infrequences disk trays cause scratches and can be loud. PC's have disk drays but a desktop isn't carried around, cars don't have disk trays because of bumpy roads. So yes Disk tray are a thing of the past.

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You are completely missing the point of my post. I was illustrating how ludicrous "theories" of sales padding are when you don't factor in all the circumstances. Like 360 having long time free repair support. You trying to claim 5 million people rebought instead of using a free alternative is nothing short of irrational, and indictive of desparation when you grasp for straws. You don't have a shred of evidence to sopport your claim except maybe a "gut feeling". Problem being that feeling would be slanted by a bias you display with every word of your post.

And speaking of grasping for straws, the disc tray is a "last gen" feature? Really? So somehow, how the disc gets into the machine makes a difference in the complexity of the code data, or how its processed by the CPU and GPU? Last I checked, the only actual qualifiers for next gen from a technical standpoint (keep in mind from a marketing standpoint what ever model replaces its predecessor is the next gen system) is the CPU and GPU architecture. That's after all what runs the games, not the method of inserting the media.

LOXO7

And your "gut feeling" is more right than mine because you think 3 year warrantee excludes all repurchases during that time? Were is your proof to show me that 30% million of rodd customers still play on their first machine? What was that saying, fool me once, twice, three times...? Look another theory: If I follow the 3 year warrantee and my system breaks down once again after I have already sent it in.What do you think is going through the peoples minds? I could buy a new one or send it in and give it another try. I heard some things aren't covered on the warrantee. I'll claim its more than 5 million people bought a second 360.

IMO, I think lifetime sales of the PS3 will exceed the 360 once this gen is long since over primarily due to the multimedia functions (non-gamers will buy it solely for that), but for it to pass the 360 this gen requires something stellar out of the Arc controller or some exclusive franchise that ignites fanboyism like Halo did. I doubt it thought, seeing as the 360 has a great lineup of games and some considerable potential in their Natal product.

The 360 is dead in Japan. The PS3 is leading in Europe.

In NA, they're pretty close. The gap is 5.5 million units. The PS3 needs to sell 2.5 to 3 million units more this year then basically overthrow the 360 the following year.

It's funny how a lot of fanboys don't want to believe this.

The 360 is dead in Japan. The PS3 is leading in Europe.

In NA, they're pretty close. The gap is 5.5 million units. The PS3 needs to sell 2.5 to 3 million units more this year then basically overthrow the 360 the following year.

It's funny how a lot of fanboys don't want to believe this.

XenogearsMaster

I think you've been fed some bad information.

According to Peter Dille (SCEA's Senior VP of Marketing) the gap was at 8 million earlier this month.

Unless Sony managed to sell about 2.5 million consoles in the past few weeks, that 5.5 million console figure you've seen is way off.

The 360 is dead in Japan. The PS3 is leading in Europe.

In NA, they're pretty close. The gap is 5.5 million units. The PS3 needs to sell 2.5 to 3 million units more this year then basically overthrow the 360 the following year.

It's funny how a lot of fanboys don't want to believe this.

XenogearsMaster

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The 360 is dead in Japan. The PS3 is leading in Europe.

In NA, they're pretty close. The gap is 5.5 million units. The PS3 needs to sell 2.5 to 3 million units more this year then basically overthrow the 360 the following year.

It's funny how a lot of fanboys don't want to believe this.

The_Game21x

I think you've been fed some bad information.

According to Peter Dille (SCEA's Senior VP of Marketing) the gap was at 8 million earlier this month.

Unless Sony managed to sell about 2.5 million consoles in the past few weeks, that 5.5 million console figure you've seen is way off.

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[QUOTE="XenogearsMaster"]

The 360 is dead in Japan. The PS3 is leading in Europe.

In NA, they're pretty close. The gap is 5.5 million units. The PS3 needs to sell 2.5 to 3 million units more this year then basically overthrow the 360 the following year.

It's funny how a lot of fanboys don't want to believe this.

FIipMode

I think you've been fed some bad information.

According to Peter Dille (SCEA's Senior VP of Marketing) the gap was at 8 million earlier this month.

Unless Sony managed to sell about 2.5 million consoles in the past few weeks, that 5.5 million console figure you've seen is way off.

PS3 is definitely the more future proof console. With that said, you're most likely going to be finding the PS3 outselling the Xbox 360 when the next generation of systems are out and eventually beating the Xbox 360 in worldwide sales (just a prediction). By then, the general mass of consumers will understand that:

1) PS3 has free online. Believe it or not the mass of consumers don't know this, especially in America where Xbox 360 is still seen as the default video game console.

2) The general mass of consumers will actually know the PS3 library, which will become more and more diverse and since people will actually look into the good games

3) HDTV's will be more prevalent in the market

4) More people will have high speed internet access and I believe that wireless routing will continue to grow as a solution for a home network. Almost everyone I know uses it..

5) The blu-ray has been steadily growing and prices for them will be down in the future.

What you won't necessarily find is the PS3 destroying the 360 in sales (in the US) now...

Like I just said, it's after the next gen systems are out is when you'll begin to the PS3 shining in sales.

He doesn't have to prove your claim is wrong because you were the one who initially claimed that the PS3 and 360 are about equal because of repurchases. The burden of proof is on you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that your claim is true. It is far more reasonable to believe that the vast majority of hardware failures resulted in people having their systems replaced by MS for free than to believe that the majority of those people simply discarded their broken systems and went to buy new ones. :|The_Game21x

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] He doesn't have to prove your claim is wrong because you were the one who initially claimed that the PS3 and 360 are about equal because of repurchases. The burden of proof is on you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that your claim is true. It is far more reasonable to believe that the vast majority of hardware failures resulted in people having their systems replaced by MS for free than to believe that the majority of those people simply discarded their broken systems and went to buy new ones. :|LOXO7

last time I checked 360 had a 5 million unit lead in over all units sold in march gow3 and ff13 drop there should be a closing on the gap next month. The 360 has a big edge in america but sony has japan and europe. I think by 2011 the ps3 will catch and over take the 360 the wii is long gone.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"] He doesn't have to prove your claim is wrong because you were the one who initially claimed that the PS3 and 360 are about equal because of repurchases. The burden of proof is on you to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that your claim is true. It is far more reasonable to believe that the vast majority of hardware failures resulted in people having their systems replaced by MS for free than to believe that the majority of those people simply discarded their broken systems and went to buy new ones. :|The_Game21x

Of course they will. If there still supporting the ps2 right now then they will still be supporting the ps3 6 years from now. as far as im concerned the race ends when the new consoles come out.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="LOXO7"] So it is also reasonable to believe people bought broken systems instead of using the warrantee, if it is more reasonable the other way. Sure a lot of people used the warrantee, but not all 33% million of them. Right now that's 11.7 million people. Is saying 5 million of those people bought another 360 that ridiculous? I'm not thinking so.

LOXO7

Opinions are not exempt from needing proof or some sort of factual support. Those that can back up their opinions give them merit. Those that can't... well like basically in your case, have exposed their opinion as flawed.

Of course they will. If there still supporting the ps2 right now then they will still be supporting the ps3 6 years from now. as far as im concerned the race ends when the new consoles come out.

larryb007

Are you saying the PS3 will beat 360 while this current race (this generation) is still going on, or only after this race is over (as you put it, when the new consoles come out) ?

I see MS throwing the 360 away like they did with the Xbox. PS3 is like the PS2, it gonna have support for a long time and my guess, will continue to sell way after 360 is gone. Over time, Sony will make a profit. Fuhgeddabouditt

prob not who knows and not everybody thats a soccer mom has a wii i dont even know soccer moms:|