Will the Wii U's 3rd party support be simular to the Gamecube?

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#1 Tony-Baxter
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Gamecube had decent but not as good 3rd party support.
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Don't know.
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How are we supposed to know?
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Magic 8 ball says maybe.
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#5 osirisx3
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Hard to say but i would not be surprised Nintendo has been missing out since the 64.

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Rumors are Nintendo is losing 3rd party support due to it's awful graphics, lack of quality online multiplayer, and lack of blu-ray. Also, there is fear the PS4 will come out and completely dominate the market, so developers don't want to invest 10 million in a dead end console (Wii U).
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#7 Fizzman
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Would not surprise me one bit. Nintendo didnt really do anything to address what third party developers want in a next gen console.

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#8 TheEpicGoat
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Weak console = weak support.

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Doesn't matter when we're all going to die next Friday.

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#10 percech
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Weak console = weak support.

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Gamecube wasn't weak.
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Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

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F Zer GX was a phenomenal looking game for it's time. So was Eternal Darkess. Pretty much most of the exclusives. Very underrated console, possibly the most underrated. You can't say Dreamcast because it didn't have as nearly good games.

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#13 Fizzman
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Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

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No.......just no.........

Max Payne 2 looks miles better than Metroid Prime 1 or 2.

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Well target already has a sale on WiiU games. Things are not looking good when you have to give away software. Is target clearing out all WiiU games because they will stop stocking it soon? I would guess so.

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Rumors are Microsoft is losing 3rd party support due to it's awful graphics, lack of quality online multiplayer, and lack of blu-ray. Also, there is fear the PS3 will come out and completely dominate the market, so developers don't want to invest 10 million in a dead end console (Xbox 360).PS3FanMan4Life
Whoa! Did I time travel back to 2006? :shock:
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[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

Fizzman

No.......just no.........

Max Payne 2 looks miles better than Metroid Prime 1 or 2.

Metroid Prime incorporated a lot of physics you see in today shooters. When you were in a cold area your visor would icicle up, when you were in a steamy area it would fog up, throwing and dropping items with your grapple beam, particles and debris, flipping the switch and watching items realistically fall to the ground, etc.
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#17 Fizzman
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

Samus3D

No.......just no.........

Max Payne 2 looks miles better than Metroid Prime 1 or 2.

Metroid Prime incorporated a lot of physics you see in today shooters. When you were in a cold area your visor would icicle up, when you were in a steamy area it would fog up, throwing and dropping items with your grapple beam, particles and debris, flipping the switch and watching items realistically fall to the ground, etc.

Max Payne 2 had Havok Physics engine.

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#18 quickposter
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Yes. Nintendo are taking far too many precautions to prevent it getting as bad as Wii. Here is a summary

Partnering with independent studios to form second parties.

Publushing games themselves.

Putting bigger supporters on a higher priority.

Increasing royalties paid.

Anyone who thinks third parties will just leave when more powerful systems come out are fooling themselves.

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#19 nameless12345
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Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

Samus3D

Xbox was more powerful.

Metroid Prime did not look better than PC games. (see Unreal Tournament 2003 & Unreal 2)

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#20 Wiimotefan
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Weak console = weak support.

TheEpicGoat

I guess thats true.

We all know the PS and PS2 got terrible support, right? And the GC and Xbox got the best support ever, correct?

Really though, who knows? I'm expecting the WiiU to get the typical Nintendo console treatment with 3rd parties. If they somehow do better then great! But I'm not holding my breath.

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#21 Wiimotefan
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Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

Samus3D

Xbox buddy. Though the GC wasnt too far behind. It was closer to the Xbox than it was to the PS2. But the Xbox still edged it out in some noticeable areas.

And yeah, Prime looked outstanding, but on a technical level there were still better looking games. It was the blend of tech and kick ass art direction that made Prime look so beastly.

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#22 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

Wiimotefan

Xbox buddy. Though the GC wasnt too far behind. It was closer to the Xbox than it was to the PS2. But the Xbox still edged it out in some noticeable areas.

Actually, the PS2 had a better CPU than both, the Xbox and GC "in theory".

Xbox and GC had newer GPU architectures, hence better graphics.

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[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="Samus3D"]

Gamecube was the strongest in that generation. At the time Metroid Prime looked better than most if not all PC games.

nameless12345

Xbox buddy. Though the GC wasnt too far behind. It was closer to the Xbox than it was to the PS2. But the Xbox still edged it out in some noticeable areas.

Actually, the PS2 had a better CPU than both, the Xbox and GC "in theory".

Xbox and GC had newer GPU architectures, hence better graphics.

Well yeah, where it counts the GC seemed close to on par with the Xbox.

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#24 nameless12345
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[QUOTE="nameless12345"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

Xbox buddy. Though the GC wasnt too far behind. It was closer to the Xbox than it was to the PS2. But the Xbox still edged it out in some noticeable areas.

Wiimotefan

Actually, the PS2 had a better CPU than both, the Xbox and GC "in theory".

Xbox and GC had newer GPU architectures, hence better graphics.

Well yeah, where it counts the GC seemed close to on par with the Xbox.

GC was more like "Dreamcast Turbo" tbh...

Cheap & efficient architecture and low production costs.

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#25 tubbyc
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[QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

Weak console = weak support.

Wiimotefan

I guess thats true.

We all know the PS and PS2 got terrible support, right? And the GC and Xbox got the best support ever, correct?

Really though, who knows? I'm expecting the WiiU to get the typical Nintendo console treatment with 3rd parties. If they somehow do better then great! But I'm not holding my breath.

It's definitely a factor, although there can be other reasons for weak support. Also, the PS and PS2 were powerful consoles for their generation.

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#26 Timstuff
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It will be worse, because at least the Gamecube was powerful enough to run multiplats (even though you were paying $50 for only only half a game in many instances, since they'd always cut out the multiplayer).
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#27 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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Only kind of party support will be Mario Party.
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no

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[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

[QUOTE="TheEpicGoat"]

Weak console = weak support.

tubbyc

I guess thats true.

We all know the PS and PS2 got terrible support, right? And the GC and Xbox got the best support ever, correct?

Really though, who knows? I'm expecting the WiiU to get the typical Nintendo console treatment with 3rd parties. If they somehow do better then great! But I'm not holding my breath.

It's definitely a factor, although there can be other reasons for weak support. Also, the PS and PS2 were powerful consoles for their generation.

If by poweful, you mean among the weakest, then sure.

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[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

I guess thats true.

We all know the PS and PS2 got terrible support, right? And the GC and Xbox got the best support ever, correct?

Really though, who knows? I'm expecting the WiiU to get the typical Nintendo console treatment with 3rd parties. If they somehow do better then great! But I'm not holding my breath.

Wiimotefan

It's definitely a factor, although there can be other reasons for weak support. Also, the PS and PS2 were powerful consoles for their generation.

If by poweful, you mean among the weakest, then sure.

Developers were asking for 8 gigs of ram, I believe. I also believe this was epic. Epic is behind Unreal Engine 3--the most used, and versatile 3rd party engine this gen. That is a HUGE factor relating to support.
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#31 tubbyc
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[QUOTE="tubbyc"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]

I guess thats true.

We all know the PS and PS2 got terrible support, right? And the GC and Xbox got the best support ever, correct?

Really though, who knows? I'm expecting the WiiU to get the typical Nintendo console treatment with 3rd parties. If they somehow do better then great! But I'm not holding my breath.

Wiimotefan

It's definitely a factor, although there can be other reasons for weak support. Also, the PS and PS2 were powerful consoles for their generation.

If by poweful, you mean among the weakest, then sure.

I mean they were powerful for their time, when they came out.

N64 and PS were the most powerful of their gen (well, the Saturn was similar in power to the PS from what I've read and played, but harder to program for). N64 was 64bit and could do some things the PS couldn't, but the PS had the advantage of CDs over cartridges for storage.

The PS2 was a powerful console for it's time too, more powerful than the Dreamcast. Apart from the Xbox having an HDD which was good for a small number of games like Fable and Morrowind during that gen, there wasn't a huge difference between the PS2, GC, and Xbox.

So they were powerful for their time, so that power wasn't an issue for getting excellent 3rd party support. On the other hand, it's clear that the Wii missed out on many great 3rd party games due to lack of power.

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Doesn't matter when we're all going to die next Friday.

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No when the other consoles come out. Maybe for their opening year it'll be fine. It's all downhill after that.
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#34 Blazerdt47
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No, I believe it will be exactly like Wii's.

The Gamecube was more powerful than PS2, and a tad less than Xbox but all 3 were very similar in control and graphics, that's why the Gamecube got just as much 3rd party support as the Xbox but both less than PS2. The Wii U is in a league of it's own.

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i've learned by now that there is no rule to show how much support a system will get. Before the wii, the system with the biggest userbase always got the best software. At least devs went out of their way to get on the platform and inflate the software side. So course anyone who followed that pattern was wrong. The only thing for sure is that Nintendo will give strong first party support. I will say that the 360's strategy of basically bending to third party demands at every turn seems to really be working, so there's a certain guarantee on the MS side as well. The only total wild card next gen is Sony (based on rumours). Not necessarily a bad spot to be in.

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hold on let me get my crystal ball.....

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It will be worse, because at least the Gamecube was powerful enough to run multiplats (even though you were paying $50 for only only half a game in many instances, since they'd always cut out the multiplayer).Timstuff
By cut out the multiplayer, you mean the online, right? Because a lot of multiplats on GameCube still have local multiplayer.
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#38 quickposter
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@ Timstuff and Blazerdt47

Got sources to say Wii U can't run games on 720 and PS4?

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@ Timstuff and Blazerdt47

Got sources to say Wii U can't run games on 720 and PS4?

quickposter

It cant even properly run PS3/360 games.

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No. Gamecube got superior multiplats in some cases, WiiU can't even get superior versions of last gen games. I expect the Nextbox to launch next Christmas and leave WiiU behind.
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It cant even properly run PS3/360 games.

crimsonman1245

Because people haven't had enough time with the hardware. Seriously go compare that garbage Quake port on 360 to Mass Effect.

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[QUOTE="crimsonman1245"]

It cant even properly run PS3/360 games.

quickposter

Because people haven't had enough time with the hardware. Seriously go compare that garbage Quake port on 360 to Mass Effect.

Why did devs get less time before launch than previous systems? I've seen good launch ports with new systems before so that is an expectation I have.
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#44 ultimate-k
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Simular to the wii, gamecube had decent 3rd party support.