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#1 MoldOnHold
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As you probably already know, Crytek has sold the Far Cry rights to Ubisoft quite a while back, who are now in control of the Far Cry series. Looking at Ubisoft's endeavors (instincts, evolution, predator, vengeance), I can't help be skeptical.

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Prediction: Will Ubisoft continue it's line of average Far Cry games or deliver a solid hit to revive the series?
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I actually liked Instincts.
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What was wrong with Instincts? I really liked that game, especially the map creation and multiplayer portions of it.

I think FC2 could turn out great.

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So, Crytek isn't even working on it??? That sucks, I'm a little skeptical about this since Ubisoft re-released the original so many time.
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As you probably already know, Crytek has sold the Far Cry rights to Ubisoft quite a while back, who are now in control of the Far Cry series. Looking at Ubisoft's endeavors (instincts, evolution, predator, vengeance), I can't help be skeptical.

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They have the power of the PC platform behind them this time, and actually seem to have a goal to make a revolutionary game. I say yes, considering they want to reestablish their PC market position.

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#6 Pdiddy105
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i think Ubisoft can do alot more things with Far Cry than Crytek could.
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#7 MoldOnHold
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Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.
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#8 MoldOnHold
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So, Crytek isn't even working on it??? That sucks, I'm a little skeptical about this since Ubisoft re-released the original so many time.cyborgjak427
Oh no, they confirmed that it will be a completely different game.

They also said that it would stay true to the series roots. That's where I'm skeptical on.
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From what I know of Far Cry 2, they're planning to make it more free-roam by having only one objective throughout the entire game but having multiple factions you can manipulate to meet your goal of tracking down and killing someone. I also heard there will be none of those feral powers in the console Far Cry games or any killer monkeys or huge mutants packed with infinite rocket shots.

Because it's different compared to the other ones, I'm unable to say whether or not Ubisoft will screw it up.

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#10 Pdiddy105
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Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.MoldOnHold

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

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#11 ProductNumber49
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Ubisoft is developping this...So more hopes for a port.
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#12 smokeydabear076
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I don't think they will screw it up.
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Highly skeptical. Sounds like STALKER. Not a compliment.
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#14 MoldOnHold
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Ubisoft is developping this...So more hopes for a port.ProductNumber49
Yeah, I'm certain this will come to the 360 in some way.
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.Pdiddy105

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

I don't know what you are smoking but I would like some.

Far Cry 2 does look good and Ubisoft wants to redeem themselves as PC devs (like they were back in the day... Oh Rainbow Six how you were such a good game)

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[QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]Ubisoft is developping this...So more hopes for a port.MoldOnHold
Yeah, I'm certain this will come to the 360 in some way.

why would they piss off the PC people AGAIN? their whole goal with Far Cry 2 is to redeem themselves as PC devs. Porting it would just make people angry.

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#17 Pdiddy105
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[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.horrowhip

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

I don't know what you are smoking but I would like some.

Far Cry 2 does look good and Ubisoft wants to redeem themselves as PC devs (like they were back in the day... Oh Rainbow Six how you were such a good game)

so i guess the guy who reviewed instincts was also smoking when he said it was a better game than the original Far Cry?

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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.Pdiddy105

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

I don't know what you are smoking but I would like some.

Far Cry 2 does look good and Ubisoft wants to redeem themselves as PC devs (like they were back in the day... Oh Rainbow Six how you were such a good game)

so i guess the guy who reviewed instincts was also smoking when he said it was a better game than the original Far Cry?

Yep. Instincts was a linear, simple version of Far Cry. For the consoles it was good, but it would have been seen as a 5.0 at best on the PC.

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The AI seems to be coming along really well, thats really been what's got me excited about the game.
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="ProductNumber49"]Ubisoft is developping this...So more hopes for a port.horrowhip

Yeah, I'm certain this will come to the 360 in some way.

why would they piss off the PC people AGAIN? their whole goal with Far Cry 2 is to redeem themselves as PC devs. Porting it would just make people angry.

I would not be pissed off. Anyway I don't know why, but some people here in SW seem to think that Far Cry on the PC was ported to the Xbox, it could be that they never played the PC game.
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[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.horrowhip

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

I don't know what you are smoking but I would like some.

Far Cry 2 does look good and Ubisoft wants to redeem themselves as PC devs (like they were back in the day... Oh Rainbow Six how you were such a good game)

so i guess the guy who reviewed instincts was also smoking when he said it was a better game than the original Far Cry?

Yep. Instincts was a linear, simple version of Far Cry. For the consoles it was good, but it would have been seen as a 5.0 at best on the PC.

Quote from GS review:

"Far Cry Instincts is even better than its PC predecessor, and it's one of the best Xbox shooters ever."

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I loved all the Far cry's but Vengeance for Wii which almost made me Cry it was that bad. LOL
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#23 MoldOnHold
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I would not be pissed off. Anyway I don't know why, but some people here in SW seem to think that Far Cry on the PC was ported to the Xbox, it could be that they never played the PC game.smokeydabear076
Hmm? What do you mean? I heard it "resembled" the PC game, and I don't know if that means direct port or not.
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#24 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.Pdiddy105

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

I don't know what you are smoking but I would like some.

Far Cry 2 does look good and Ubisoft wants to redeem themselves as PC devs (like they were back in the day... Oh Rainbow Six how you were such a good game)

so i guess the guy who reviewed instincts was also smoking when he said it was a better game than the original Far Cry?

Yep. Instincts was a linear, simple version of Far Cry. For the consoles it was good, but it would have been seen as a 5.0 at best on the PC.

Quote from GS review:

"Far Cry Instincts is even better than its PC predecessor, and it's one of the best Xbox shooters ever."

And they got it wrong. Believe me as I have played both. It's worse.

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#25 MoldOnHold
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

Yep. Instincts was a linear, simple version of Far Cry. For the consoles it was good, but it would have been seen as a 5.0 at best on the PC.

Pdiddy105

Quote from GS review:

"Far Cry Instincts is even better than its PC predecessor, and it's one of the best Xbox shooters ever."

On Wiki it says: It resembles the earlier PC game Far Cry. However, the gameplay is not as open ended as the former, as if it is traditionally linear. It makes up for this by including extra multiplayer modes through the Xbox Live service, alongside new abilities (feral powers) and a map creator mode which allows the users to create their own maps for multiplayer.

Wiki isn't a reliable source, but it should count for something, right? :D

[spoiler] right?! [/spoiler]
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not be pissed off. Anyway I don't know why, but some people here in SW seem to think that Far Cry on the PC was ported to the Xbox, it could be that they never played the PC game.MoldOnHold
Hmm? What do you mean? I heard it "resembled" the PC game, and I don't know if that means direct port or not.

Some people that have never played the PC game think that it is a direct port. It is not. They are so far apart that I don't even know if you should consider it a port, it is a spin-off if anything.
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not be pissed off. Anyway I don't know why, but some people here in SW seem to think that Far Cry on the PC was ported to the Xbox, it could be that they never played the PC game.MoldOnHold
Hmm? What do you mean? I heard it "resembled" the PC game, and I don't know if that means direct port or not.

It didn't even come close....

It was way, WAY more linear, had different gameplay, a different story, and different overall feel. All they had in common was the setting and the name, nothing else.

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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not be pissed off. Anyway I don't know why, but some people here in SW seem to think that Far Cry on the PC was ported to the Xbox, it could be that they never played the PC game.MoldOnHold
Hmm? What do you mean? I heard it "resembled" the PC game, and I don't know if that means direct port or not.

Far Cry, to this day, has never been ported. Instincts is a seperate game totally. Far Cry 2 is more like STALKER than anything else. AND, it is not possible on the consoles at its current state. This is because it takes a massive amount from the hard drive and takes up lots of RAM. To be ported, the game would have to be redisgned from scratch. Suffice to say, I doubt there will be a port. and if there is one, it will be a spinoff just like instincts.

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#29 Pdiddy105
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[QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

Yep. Instincts was a linear, simple version of Far Cry. For the consoles it was good, but it would have been seen as a 5.0 at best on the PC.

MoldOnHold

Quote from GS review:

"Far Cry Instincts is even better than its PC predecessor, and it's one of the best Xbox shooters ever."

On Wiki it says: It resembles the earlier PC game Far Cry. However, the gameplay is not as open ended as the former, as if it is traditionally linear. It makes up for this by including extra multiplayer modes through the Xbox Live service, alongside new abilities (feral powers) and a map creator mode which allows the users to create their own maps for multiplayer.

Wiki isn't a reliable source, but it should count for something, right? :D

[spoiler] right?! [/spoiler]

open ended areas dont really matter especially since the gameplay in the original Far Cry is always the same. go to a base, eliminate everybody there, go to another base, eliminate everybody there, rinse and repeat. its not like approaching a base from a different direction is going to drastically change the gameplay.

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#30 MoldOnHold
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Ah OK, this changes things considerably. Being that Far Cry Instincts got very good scores, and that it is a new game completely, Ubi definately shows it has the prowess to make an excellent Far Cry game. :D
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not be pissed off. Anyway I don't know why, but some people here in SW seem to think that Far Cry on the PC was ported to the Xbox, it could be that they never played the PC game.MoldOnHold
Hmm? What do you mean? I heard it "resembled" the PC game, and I don't know if that means direct port or not.

The Xbox version had a totally different storyline compared to the PC version. In the Xbox version, you are given feral powers from the chemical that created the trigens while in the PC version, you are clean from start to near the finish.

I don't know much beyond that seeing as I've never played the Xbox version, but the feral powers kind of worry me a bit since my playthrough of the PC version had me using a lot of wit and skill to survive on the hardest difficulty...on the very first level. I never managed to beat it on that difficulty. If there is a power of some sort that heals you in the Xbox version, that'd kill the survival experience that I had in the PC version because first aid kits were pretty scarce and some enemies had two hit kills on the easiest difficulty.

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As you probably already know, Crytek has sold the Far Cry rights to Ubisoft quite a while back, who are now in control of the Far Cry series. Looking at Ubisoft's endeavors (instincts, evolution, predator, vengeance), I can't help be skeptical.

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I'm not sure but so far, the game is looking amazing! It'll probably be the reason I decide to upgrade my gaming rig..... again.
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There was a great write up, and front page coverage on it in the newest PC Gamer. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it a top teir game. It remains to be seen if they can pull it off, but if you get a chance read that article.
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There was a great write up, and front page coverage on it in the newest PC Gamer. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it a top teir game. It remains to be seen if they can pull it off, but if you get a chance read that article.Heil68
You should also read GS's impressions of the game. It sounds fantastic.
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There was a great write up, and front page coverage on it in the newest PC Gamer. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it a top teir game. It remains to be seen if they can pull it off, but if you get a chance read that article.Heil68
I'll be looking forward to it.
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Ubisoft is one of those companies that when they release a game you don't know how the game will end up being either good or bad. One never knows. But I don't think FC2 will be bad nor the Ubisoft will screw it up.

P.S: What's wrong with FC: Instincts?

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There was a great write up, and front page coverage on it in the newest PC Gamer. From the looks of it, they are trying to make it a top teir game. It remains to be seen if they can pull it off, but if you get a chance read that article.Heil68

My impression of the preview was Ubisoft considers Far Cry 2 their MOST important project in their entire developing history. Redeeming themselves as PC devs is something that is tough to do with one game. Hopefully they create a great game.

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It won't be terrible but not as good at the original
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#39 horrowhip
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Ubisoft is one of those companies that when they release a game you don't know how the game will end up being either good or bad. One never knows. But I don't think FC2 will be bad nor the Ubisoft will screw it up.

P.S: What's wrong with FC: Instincts?

DeadMan1290

Instincts isn't a Far Cry game... It's just a game with Far Cry in the name (Far Cry 2 is also). It also lacks the open-ended gameplay that made Far Cry so great... For what it was it was fine, but for what it should have been it was terrible. Far Cry 2 should feel similar toFar Cry just not have any story elements similar.

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#40 MoldOnHold
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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

Ubisoft is one of those companies that when they release a game you don't know how the game will end up being either good or bad. One never knows. But I don't think FC2 will be bad nor the Ubisoft will screw it up.

P.S: What's wrong with FC: Instincts?

horrowhip

Instincts isn't a Far Cry game... It's just a game with Far Cry in the name (Far Cry 2 is also). It also lacks the open-ended gameplay that made Far Cry so great... For what it was it was fine, but for what it should have been it was terrible. Far Cry 2 should feel similar toFar Cry just not have any story elements similar.

lol yeah this guy is really against it.

I made a mistake in my wording, making it appear that Instincts is a bad game. I realized that it was the Xbox Far Cry, and a good game. Sorry about that.
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#41 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

Ubisoft is one of those companies that when they release a game you don't know how the game will end up being either good or bad. One never knows. But I don't think FC2 will be bad nor the Ubisoft will screw it up.

P.S: What's wrong with FC: Instincts?

MoldOnHold

Instincts isn't a Far Cry game... It's just a game with Far Cry in the name (Far Cry 2 is also). It also lacks the open-ended gameplay that made Far Cry so great... For what it was it was fine, but for what it should have been it was terrible. Far Cry 2 should feel similar toFar Cry just not have any story elements similar.

lol yeah this guy is really against it.

I made a mistake in my wording, making it appear that Instincts is a bad game. I realized that it was the Xbox Far Cry, and a good game. Sorry about that.

I'm not against it but people saying its better than the PC version is just odd... Anyone who have played both will agree.

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#42 DeadMan1290
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="DeadMan1290"]

Ubisoft is one of those companies that when they release a game you don't know how the game will end up being either good or bad. One never knows. But I don't think FC2 will be bad nor the Ubisoft will screw it up.

P.S: What's wrong with FC: Instincts?

horrowhip

Instincts isn't a Far Cry game... It's just a game with Far Cry in the name (Far Cry 2 is also). It also lacks the open-ended gameplay that made Far Cry so great... For what it was it was fine, but for what it should have been it was terrible. Far Cry 2 should feel similar toFar Cry just not have any story elements similar.

lol yeah this guy is really against it.

I made a mistake in my wording, making it appear that Instincts is a bad game. I realized that it was the Xbox Far Cry, and a good game. Sorry about that.

I'm not against it but people saying its better than the PC version is just odd... Anyone who have played both will agree.

I don't see where in my post does it say FC: Instincts is better than the original Far Cry. We all know Far Cry is better than FC: Instincts, and whoever says otherwise is just a fool.

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..as long as they have a map creation tool, I'llbe cool with it.

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#44 MadExponent
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]As you probably already know, Crytek has sold the Far Cry rights to Ubisoft quite a while back, who are now in control of the Far Cry series. Looking at Ubisoft's endeavors (instincts, evolution, predator, vengeance), I can't help be skeptical.

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Prediction: Will Ubisoft continue it's line of average Far Cry games or deliver a solid hit to revive the series?dgsag

They have the power of the PC platform behind them this time, and actually seem to have a goal to make a revolutionary game. I say yes, considering they want to reestablish their PC market position.

I agree with you completely. Far Cry 2 will be a technical marvel for sure.

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#45 MoldOnHold
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..as long as they have a map creation tool, I'llbe cool with it.

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Yeah I gotta say, that was an interesting feature. Hoping to see it expand. :)
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#46 InsaneBasura
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I'm sure it has been mentioned already, but no f-ing way. Far Cry 2 sounds like total awesomesauce. I too was indifferent towards it due to the stupid Instinctses, then I read the previews.

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#47 The_Ish
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I understand your trepidation and skepticism, since each installment of the Far Cry series has become progressively worse, but I think that a totally new, refurbished Far Cry will bring back the astounding game-play we saw in the first and second. It's not like EA is a bad developer, I'm sure they understand the value and potential of the Far Cry series, and will do their best to make Far Cry to much more than a rehash of Far Cry Instincts.
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#48 trix5817
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.Pdiddy105

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

No, it wasn't. It took away what made Far Cry so great, it's open-ended gameplay.

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#49 trix5817
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"][QUOTE="horrowhip"][QUOTE="Pdiddy105"]

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Oh right, is Instincts the Xbox port? My mistake, that was actually a good game.Pdiddy105

yeah. Instincts was even better than the original Far Cry, which is why im certain Far Cry 2 will deliver.

I don't know what you are smoking but I would like some.

Far Cry 2 does look good and Ubisoft wants to redeem themselves as PC devs (like they were back in the day... Oh Rainbow Six how you were such a good game)

so i guess the guy who reviewed instincts was also smoking when he said it was a better game than the original Far Cry?

Yep. Instincts was a linear, simple version of Far Cry. For the consoles it was good, but it would have been seen as a 5.0 at best on the PC.

Quote from GS review:

"Far Cry Instincts is even better than its PC predecessor, and it's one of the best Xbox shooters ever."

I don't know what that guy was on. Read all the other reviews. It has a lower score on gamerankings also. It doesn't have what made Far Cry so special. I guess the guy who reviewed it likes linear, dumbed down shooters over open-ended ones.

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#50 trix5817
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[QUOTE="smokeydabear076"]I would not be pissed off. Anyway I don't know why, but some people here in SW seem to think that Far Cry on the PC was ported to the Xbox, it could be that they never played the PC game.MoldOnHold
Hmm? What do you mean? I heard it "resembled" the PC game, and I don't know if that means direct port or not.

No, it was not a direct port. It was a spin-off made by Ubisoft because they have the rights to the Far Cry name. The only game Crytek has ever made was Far Cry for the PC, which was different than all the other spin-offs.