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Not really. God of War + Gran Turismo combined sell more than Halo. Then Sony still has a ton of other exclusives like Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, Last of Us, and LittleBigPlanet[QUOTE="drakekratos"][QUOTE="k2theswiss"]720 only requires a REAL halo 2 remake and it overEddie-Murphy48
GOW3, Acesnion, PSP games+ GT5, GT5P=19-20 million.
Halo this gen alone= 39 million.
Ascension just came out last week, genius![QUOTE="RR360DD"][QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Its not a conspiracy theory. These sites are here to make money. Plain and simple. This money comes in from the advertising partners which are the exact same companies who's games they are reviewing. These sites are not going to do anything to piss off the people who are paying their bills. Now I have seen some really bad games get some great reviews. I have also seen some really great games get some bad reviews. And even when a site is not just out to boost their marketing dollars, the review they are writing is nothing other than personal opinion. I mean really now. If I got a job at Gamespot and gave a Halo game a good or bad review, would it be anything other than personal opinion since every experience is different? You could have three different people review the same game for the exact same site and receive three very different scores. But when you have enough people saying the same exact thing, I think that's quite a bit more credible. What makes Gamespots 9 rating any more credible than lower scoring reviews from EGM and Forbes? Last gen, great Xbox games were getting some pretty bad reviews. Meanwhile, average to mediocre PS2 games were receiving great scores. These games like Halo and Gears used to be great. But as the key developers left to pursue other things, the games started to lose their luster. And all 343 really did was copy much of Bungies stuff while ripping other things off from COD. Halo is supposed to be a trend setter. Its supposed to set and raise the bar. Not offer a bland cookie cutter experience while copying features from other popular games. Kill cams? Passive bonuses? Instant respawns to make the gameplay faster? These most certainly aren't features born of Halo. But really now. You should go to Xbox.com general gaming section and ask for Halo 4 opinions. Or are you just too scared that when even the Halo fans slam it, you won't be able to call them Cows? And while you are at it, ask the Xbox community what they think about Gears Judgement.Murderstyle75
Oh boy.
It is a conspiracy theory because you've got fuk all to back it up with. I know sites make their money off advertising. I know they advertise games that they review. What I don't know (and neither do you) is that they score games highly due to advertising.
Look at Halo 4. 87 reviews (on metacritic), vast majority are 90+. Are you telling me that every single one of those a) were advertising the game and b) were told by Microsoft that they had to score the game high or face the consequences?
Please.
In Halo 4's case, it got a lot of backlash even before release because it wasn't Bungie. 343 couldn't win. If they had've kept it the same, people would've bashed them for just regurgitating Bungie's work. So they made some changes. And don't try and downplay it by calling it some kind of CoD ripoff when its not. Lets not forget the amount CoD4 ripped off Halo.
I'm losing track of your argument because you're all over the place. Why are we talking so much about Halo 4? It scored 9.0 here, deal with it. Why would I ask about Judgement? Why should I care about Gears?
The point I'm making about Judgement is its Microsofts other shooter and one of their only other games. The similarities are that Bungie is no longer doing Halo and Mark Rein and Cliffy B both left Epic. These are the first titles in both series without their major talent creating them. Its kind of like Rare without the Stamper Brothers. And 343 couldn't win? Well if people were going to criticize it regardless, why did they even buy it? Why did I buy it? To waste 60.00 just so I could complain about on an irrelevant message board full of fanboys? The fact of the matter is, most people tried to give it a chance. I said not one bad thing about it until I actually played it and thought that perhaps some fresh ideas could make the series even better. A lot of people I talk with on Xbox.com are about as loyal as they come and they are not really digging on it either. But anybody who listens to major websites to decide what is a good or bad game is nothing but a puppet and a joke. Wow. Somebody on Gamespot gave it a 9 so it must be absoutely amazing. I get you even enjoyed Assassins Creed 3. The most humorous part of the Halo 4 video review is when he used repetitive and exciting in the same exact sentence. And I'm not talking about COD 4 ripping off from Halo. I'm talking about Halo ripping off an already clone series because their scab development team can't come up with their own ideas. Its just like a great movie trilogy gone sour because three movies were not enough and since everybody involved is sick of beating a dead horse and wants to move on, you have a bunch of scabs butchering the next installment. So tell me something. What were all the new and innovating ideas from 343 to push the series forward? Or do you need to wait until some critic digs up something for you?One of their only games? Its no secret that Microsoft's 1st party support has completely died down for the 360 (which is understandable with the 720 so close) but they have a ton of IPs to tap. They aren't just Halo, gears, Forza like fanboys throw around here. Those three just happen to be Microsofts biggest franchises, which obviously makes a lot of cows butthurt.
Mark Reid and Cliffy B leaving epic has nothing to do with it. Epic didn't make Gears Judgement, People Can Fly did (I know epic own them, but theyre a different dev studio). It was a spin off, people didn't have the highest of expectations and just like God of War Acension, it didn't make a big impact like numbered games in the series did.
People bought Halo 4 because it was a great game. Its not innovative. 343 didn't take the biggest of risks. But it has a very enjoyable campaign, and very fun multiplayer. People bitch on the internet about everything, and honestly I couldn't care less about people who don't like Halo 4. Thats their opinion. I fail to see how this makes a difference. People bitched about Halo 3. About Halo 2. Big deal. I like Halo 4. I admit its not the strongest Halo game, (Halo 2 had better multiplayer, Halo 1 better campaign) but me along with hundreds of thousands of other gamers who play it regularly proves that its still one of the biggest multiplayer games around, and for good reason.
And please don't give me the whole have your own opinion lecture. I have my own opinion, but I still like to read reviews. For the sake of arguing here on gamespot, I can say I like Halo 4 and that the vast majority of critics agree with me. You may not like it, but critics don't agree. I actually didn't like AC3, but I think that was down to franchise fatigue, something that affected me personally. I'm not going to sit here and say its a bad game, because thats false.
And Halo 4 is still Halo. It has a playlist that has some features that uneducated fanboys call CoD rippoffs. But in reality, its added its own twist on features that are in CoD. CoD, being the most popular multiplayer game at the minute, is obviously going to influence games. When Halo was most popular, it influenced CoD. I really don't see the issue here. If you don't like those features, then don't play Infinity slayer.
This diehard actually tries to put garbage like crackdown up against Infamous, :lol: you know you are dealing with someone who will try to praise anything MS poops out here
casharmy
Crackdown is a much better game than Infamous or Infamous 2 regardless of the scores. And yes i own and have played all the games.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]Im still waiting for the link by the way drake.drakekratosKeep waiting. You obviously have a lot of time anyways, judging by your 25,000+ posts. LOL. Thought so lying peice of trash confirmed. Guaranteed Sony had confirmed 500$ or less for ps4 unable to post proof. lol thats not much comming from someone with an higher average post count than me especially since your an alt.
Not really. God of War + Gran Turismo combined sell more than Halo. Then Sony still has a ton of other exclusives like Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, Last of Us, and LittleBigPlanetdrakekratos
GOW3, Acesnion, PSP games+ GT5, GT5P=19-20 million.
Halo this gen alone= 39 million.
Ascension just came out last week, genius! I'm a GOW fan but come on, Ascension will be lucky to hit 4 million sales.[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"][QUOTE="RR360DD"]
[QUOTE="Murderstyle75"] Its not a conspiracy theory. These sites are here to make money. Plain and simple. This money comes in from the advertising partners which are the exact same companies who's games they are reviewing. These sites are not going to do anything to piss off the people who are paying their bills. Now I have seen some really bad games get some great reviews. I have also seen some really great games get some bad reviews. And even when a site is not just out to boost their marketing dollars, the review they are writing is nothing other than personal opinion. I mean really now. If I got a job at Gamespot and gave a Halo game a good or bad review, would it be anything other than personal opinion since every experience is different? You could have three different people review the same game for the exact same site and receive three very different scores. But when you have enough people saying the same exact thing, I think that's quite a bit more credible. What makes Gamespots 9 rating any more credible than lower scoring reviews from EGM and Forbes? Last gen, great Xbox games were getting some pretty bad reviews. Meanwhile, average to mediocre PS2 games were receiving great scores. These games like Halo and Gears used to be great. But as the key developers left to pursue other things, the games started to lose their luster. And all 343 really did was copy much of Bungies stuff while ripping other things off from COD. Halo is supposed to be a trend setter. Its supposed to set and raise the bar. Not offer a bland cookie cutter experience while copying features from other popular games. Kill cams? Passive bonuses? Instant respawns to make the gameplay faster? These most certainly aren't features born of Halo. But really now. You should go to Xbox.com general gaming section and ask for Halo 4 opinions. Or are you just too scared that when even the Halo fans slam it, you won't be able to call them Cows? And while you are at it, ask the Xbox community what they think about Gears Judgement.RR360DD
Oh boy.
It is a conspiracy theory because you've got fuk all to back it up with. I know sites make their money off advertising. I know they advertise games that they review. What I don't know (and neither do you) is that they score games highly due to advertising.
Look at Halo 4. 87 reviews (on metacritic), vast majority are 90+. Are you telling me that every single one of those a) were advertising the game and b) were told by Microsoft that they had to score the game high or face the consequences?
Please.
In Halo 4's case, it got a lot of backlash even before release because it wasn't Bungie. 343 couldn't win. If they had've kept it the same, people would've bashed them for just regurgitating Bungie's work. So they made some changes. And don't try and downplay it by calling it some kind of CoD ripoff when its not. Lets not forget the amount CoD4 ripped off Halo.
I'm losing track of your argument because you're all over the place. Why are we talking so much about Halo 4? It scored 9.0 here, deal with it. Why would I ask about Judgement? Why should I care about Gears?
The point I'm making about Judgement is its Microsofts other shooter and one of their only other games. The similarities are that Bungie is no longer doing Halo and Mark Rein and Cliffy B both left Epic. These are the first titles in both series without their major talent creating them. Its kind of like Rare without the Stamper Brothers. And 343 couldn't win? Well if people were going to criticize it regardless, why did they even buy it? Why did I buy it? To waste 60.00 just so I could complain about on an irrelevant message board full of fanboys? The fact of the matter is, most people tried to give it a chance. I said not one bad thing about it until I actually played it and thought that perhaps some fresh ideas could make the series even better. A lot of people I talk with on Xbox.com are about as loyal as they come and they are not really digging on it either. But anybody who listens to major websites to decide what is a good or bad game is nothing but a puppet and a joke. Wow. Somebody on Gamespot gave it a 9 so it must be absoutely amazing. I get you even enjoyed Assassins Creed 3. The most humorous part of the Halo 4 video review is when he used repetitive and exciting in the same exact sentence. And I'm not talking about COD 4 ripping off from Halo. I'm talking about Halo ripping off an already clone series because their scab development team can't come up with their own ideas. Its just like a great movie trilogy gone sour because three movies were not enough and since everybody involved is sick of beating a dead horse and wants to move on, you have a bunch of scabs butchering the next installment. So tell me something. What were all the new and innovating ideas from 343 to push the series forward? Or do you need to wait until some critic digs up something for you?One of their only games? Its no secret that Microsoft's 1st party support has completely died down for the 360 (which is understandable with the 720 so close) but they have a ton of IPs to tap. They aren't just Halo, gears, Forza like fanboys throw around here. Those three just happen to be Microsofts biggest franchises, which obviously makes a lot of cows butthurt.
Mark Reid and Cliffy B leaving epic has nothing to do with it. Epic didn't make Gears Judgement, People Can Fly did (I know epic own them, but theyre a different dev studio). It was a spin off, people didn't have the highest of expectations and just like God of War Acension, it didn't make a big impact like numbered games in the series did.
People bought Halo 4 because it was a great game. Its not innovative. 343 didn't take the biggest of risks. But it has a very enjoyable campaign, and very fun multiplayer. People bitch on the internet about everything, and honestly I couldn't care less about people who don't like Halo 4. Thats their opinion. I fail to see how this makes a difference. People bitched about Halo 3. About Halo 2. Big deal. I like Halo 4. I admit its not the strongest Halo game, (Halo 2 had better multiplayer, Halo 1 better campaign) but me along with hundreds of thousands of other gamers who play it regularly proves that its still one of the biggest multiplayer games around, and for good reason.
And please don't give me the whole have your own opinion lecture. I have my own opinion, but I still like to read reviews. For the sake of arguing here on gamespot, I can say I like Halo 4 and that the vast majority of critics agree with me. You may not like it, but critics don't agree. I actually didn't like AC3, but I think that was down to franchise fatigue, something that affected me personally. I'm not going to sit here and say its a bad game, because thats false.
And Halo 4 is still Halo. It has a playlist that has some features that uneducated fanboys call CoD rippoffs. But in reality, its added its own twist on features that are in CoD. CoD, being the most popular multiplayer game at the minute, is obviously going to influence games. When Halo was most popular, it influenced CoD. I really don't see the issue here. If you don't like those features, then don't play Infinity slayer.
Here's the problem with that though. Halo is not the kind of game that needs to take from the most popular shooter at the time because its nothing more than saturation from a company who apparently can't come up with their own ideas. Its really no different than what Crytek did when they created Crysis. Bungie made Halo a trend setter. Not a trend taker and there is really nothing that it even brings to the table. Still trying to figure out what kind of new and innovating ideas that Halo 4 brings to the table. This is a problem that plagues all forms of media. From the critically acclaimed rock musicians who all sound like Nickelback to the hip hop/R&B musicians who were singing like robots. Then there is popular reality television which is just as bad. One network has a popular Pawn Shop show so now every network needs one. Mainstream America eats it right up and Halo is now not any different. Pretty sure I could find some great ratings on a Justib Beiber CD. Does that make him great and talented though? I think not. These popular mainstream games made from mainstream companies are nothing more than Beiber Fever. Now I'm also not sure if you actually watch and read the reviews on only quote numbers but like I said. Gamespot used exciting and repetitive in the same exact sentence. And I can't quite remember if it was Gamespot or IGN but one of them even claimed it to be the greatest Halo game to date. These are also ironically the same exact sites who have zero understanding of audio, yet they will give gimmicky novilty items like Turtle Beach and Tritton headphones high scores. Critics gave the 300.00 Tritton Warheads a great rating for no reason other than they are the official licensed brand of the Xbox 360. Now forget about the fact that they have a below average frequency response of 25Hz - 20000Hz, are low fidelity due to their closed air design or that the build quality is cheap, these headphones are some of the best you can get. Lol. Same thing goes for Sonys official branded headphones, Pulse which are not only closed air but also only simulate 7.1 surround sound from a two channel non dolby source. The gaming critics love these things. The audio critics laugh at such things.Sony has the most 1st parties and 2nd partiesWhat exclusive lineup? Also where are people getting the Sony has a massive first-party when M$ has more studios?
Eddie-Murphy48
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]still waiting for the official sony announcement tat the ps4 would cost less than 500...I even searched myself and all I could find is speculation from a JPN newspaper.drakekratosI'm expecting a $400 SKU and $500 SKU.
$429 & $529 is what's rumored. And no the 720's exclusives will not match the PS4's.
[QUOTE="Eddie-Murphy48"][QUOTE="drakekratos"] Not really. God of War + Gran Turismo combined sell more than Halo. Then Sony still has a ton of other exclusives like Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, Last of Us, and LittleBigPlanetdrakekratos
GOW3, Acesnion, PSP games+ GT5, GT5P=19-20 million.
Halo this gen alone= 39 million.
Ascension just came out last week, genius!
Dude, Halo still has 39, A will not magically sell 19 million units.
[QUOTE="Eddie-Murphy48"]Sony has the most 1st parties and 2nd partiesWhat exclusive lineup? Also where are people getting the Sony has a massive first-party when M$ has more studios?
drakekratos
Microsfot has 21 FP Sony has 15 Fp learn to count.
Second does not equal first party don't add numbers.
only a small fraction of Sony exclusives will be worth a damn, but still better than anything MS has up its sleeve for the time beinglamprey263Not true. Not true at all.
How many years is The Last Guardian going to be on a cow's list of "upcoming" games? :lol:WeepsForFoolsIts coming out 2014... It'll be at E3 this year.
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