the 3DS ends up having more quality games? Will the Vita's superior hardware be enough to make it overall the better platform?
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Quality in games is subjective so, I'm sure there will always be people who consider the PS Vita line-up better just as people will consider the 3DS line-up better. It's too early to tell anything though. These handhelds will be around for at least 5 or so years.
[QUOTE="_Matt_"]If it's anything like DS and PSP or PS2 and GC/XBOX...depends on how many more quality games, and in whose eyes they are quality. Right now the Vita and 3DS have an equal amount of quality titles to me
Kaszilla
Hmm, well believe it or not I actually preferred the PSP library over the DS library slightly. So even then I considered PSP and DS similar last gen. However, if it ends up anything like PS2 and GC/XBOX then I won't consider the Vita better at all.
Regardless, right now I'm pretty happy to be an owner of both the 3DS and the Vita. As someone said in an earlier thread, The librarys complement each other very very well so far.
[QUOTE="Nick3306"]"Quality games" is all subjective, arguing over this is dumb... oh wait this is system wars.. carry on.KaszillaDS vs PSP, its not hard to tell which has more quality games.....
Yes it is. It's very hard.
DS
Pokemon series
mario kart
prof layton series
super mario 64
PSP
god of war series
metal gear solid peace walker
patapon series
motorstorm arctic edge
little big planet
GTA series
Very similar amount of quality games in my eyes
DS vs PSP, its not hard to tell which has more quality games.....[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="Nick3306"]"Quality games" is all subjective, arguing over this is dumb... oh wait this is system wars.. carry on._Matt_
Yes it is. It's very hard.
DS
Pokemon series
mario kart
prof layton series
super mario 64
PSP
god of war series
metal gear solid peace walker
patapon series
motorstorm arctic edge
little big planet
GTA series
Very similar amount of quality games in my eyes
we all have different tastes, i prefer the vita over the 3ds, my homeboy prefers the 3ds over the vita, its all gravy
[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="Nick3306"]"Quality games" is all subjective, arguing over this is dumb... oh wait this is system wars.. carry on.rasengan2552DS vs PSP, its not hard to tell which has more quality games..... PSP can get "ports" a lot of Nintendo's best first party games lol. Super Mario 64 especially plays good on the PSP. Oh we're counting emulation as part of a system's library? Besides that's not a DS original to begin with.
[QUOTE="_Matt_"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"] DS vs PSP, its not hard to tell which has more quality games.....Kaszilla
Yes it is. It's very hard.
DS
Pokemon series
mario kart
prof layton series
super mario 64
PSP
god of war series
metal gear solid peace walker
patapon series
motorstorm arctic edge
little big planet
GTA series
Very similar amount of quality games in my eyes
god of war did, but I see no Vice City Sstories or Liberty City stories on ps3. And yes DS has more games, but not more games I would consider quality. My point is it is very subjective. I found the PSP and DS library to have an equal number of quality games/franchises
[QUOTE="rasengan2552"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"] DS vs PSP, its not hard to tell which has more quality games.....KaszillaPSP can get "ports" a lot of Nintendo's best first party games lol. Super Mario 64 especially plays good on the PSP. Oh we're counting emulation as part of a system's library? Besides that's not a DS original to begin with. ok but they don't have to be DS originals they're still quality nintendo games, also any Pokemon handheld game up to R/S can be played on PSP.
Neither does the 3DS. le zing[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="Kaszilla"] I dont get it....R4gn4r0k
Are you sure about that ?
Last time I checked Professor Layton and Phoenix wright were pretty popular on DS and they are heading to 3DS.
[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"]I dont get it.... Neither does the 3DS. le zing Really? DS has plenty of 3rd party support and considering 3rd party devs jump ship where they'll make the most money, I see this being DS vs vita all over again.....lol 3DS 3rd party.
freedomfreak
Edit: You were kidding
Oh we're counting emulation as part of a system's library? Besides that's not a DS original to begin with. ok but they don't have to be DS originals they're still quality nintendo games, also any Pokemon handheld game up to R/S can be played on PSP. My phone can play ps1 and and NES-GBA games, your point? Random, who cares if it can emulate old games? DS/3DS vs PSP/Vita, not Nintendo vs Playstation.[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"] PSP can get "ports" a lot of Nintendo's best first party games lol. Super Mario 64 especially plays good on the PSP.rasengan2552
[QUOTE="infinite884"][QUOTE="savebattery"]Vita needs a redesign and a price drop. No way I couls see myself using those much hyped analog sticks. They're way too small, the placement interferes with dpad down and the X button, the throw is way too limited, and if Uncharted is anything to go by precise movements are quite difficult. In addition, the shoulder buttons feel mushy and unresponsive and the system as a whole is way too big to be considered portable. Vita has a very nice launch window library but the controls on the unit are terrible. I can't believe more people aren't mentioning how awful the analog sticks are. Much worse than the circle pad.savebatterythe analog sticks are fine, they take getting use too. No, they're terrible. I have spent enough time with the Vita and used enough analog sticks to make that determination. It took me five or six races in Wipeout just to stop over correcting all over the track, and I have beaten every other game in the series. The placement is bad enough. I am sick of accidentally hitting the damn X button. But not only did they place them poorly, they made them far too small. And if that wasn't bad enough, they're convex instead of concave and very prone to slipping. And that's not even mentioning the terrible throw and poor precision. Trying to aim without the gyro in Uncharted is like trying to throw a butterfly into your neighbor's mailbox from across the street.
I have never accidentally hit the x button or the down button on the d pad on my Vita, and I have large clumsy thumbs :?
[QUOTE="rasengan2552"]ok but they don't have to be DS originals they're still quality nintendo games, also any Pokemon handheld game up to R/S can be played on PSP. My phone can play ps1 and and NES-GBA games, your point? Random, who cares if it can emulate old games? DS/3DS vs PSP/Vita, not Nintendo vs Playstation.yeah... I still can't believe you took me serious after the original post lol. emulations definitely do not count.[QUOTE="Kaszilla"] Oh we're counting emulation as part of a system's library? Besides that's not a DS original to begin with.Kaszilla
[QUOTE="savebattery"]Vita needs a redesign and a price drop. No way I couls see myself using those much hyped analog sticks. They're way too small, the placement interferes with dpad down and the X button, the throw is way too limited, and if Uncharted is anything to go by precise movements are quite difficult. In addition, the shoulder buttons feel mushy and unresponsive and the system as a whole is way too big to be considered portable. Vita has a very nice launch window library but the controls on the unit are terrible. I can't believe more people aren't mentioning how awful the analog sticks are. Much worse than the circle pad.Blake135If anything the 3DS needs a redesign, the amount of complaints I have heard about the 3DS..screen scratching, screen hinges loose, bulky design, lack of second circle pad. To each his own I guess.
Hmm, I would say neither need a redesign right now. The 3DS screen scratching loose hinges cases were far and few between. Lack of second circle pad is a biggy for me though.
[QUOTE="infinite884"][QUOTE="savebattery"] No, they're terrible. I have spent enough time with the Vita and used enough analog sticks to make that determination. It took me five or six races in Wipeout just to stop over correcting all over the track, and I have beaten every other game in the series. The placement is bad enough. I am sick of accidentally hitting the damn X button. But not only did they place them poorly, they made them far too small. And if that wasn't bad enough, they're convex instead of concave and very prone to slipping. And that's not even mentioning the terrible throw and poor precision. Trying to aim without the gyro in Uncharted is like trying to throw a butterfly into your neighbor's mailbox from across the street.savebatteryi really don't know what to say, it works fine for me and my friends, like i said they take a little getting use to, oh well. Also the aiming in uncharted with the gyro is sweeeet. The gyro aiming is a band aid for the terrible sticks. If you and your friends haven't noticed you must not be very discerning gamers. hahahah, so if me and my friends think a little function of a game is cool we're discerning gamers? alright then, if you can't learn how to work a handheld with 2 joysticks you must be a idiot
[QUOTE="Kaszilla"][QUOTE="rasengan2552"] ok but they don't have to be DS originals they're still quality nintendo games, also any Pokemon handheld game up to R/S can be played on PSP.My phone can play ps1 and and NES-GBA games, your point? Random, who cares if it can emulate old games? DS/3DS vs PSP/Vita, not Nintendo vs Playstation.yeah... I still can't believe you took me serious after the original post lol. emulations definitely do not count.rasengan2552
You know you were serious, your one of the biggest cows on here.. You suck at life
[QUOTE="infinite884"][QUOTE="savebattery"] The gyro aiming is a band aid for the terrible sticks. If you and your friends haven't noticed you must not be very discerning gamers.savebatteryhahahah, so if me and my friends think a little function of a game is cool we're discerning gamers? alright then, if you can't learn how to work a handheld with 2 joysticks you must be a idiot gamer. It's fine if you like the concept or even implementation of the gyro aiming, but you have to realize it's only in the game because trying to aim without it is near impossible. Go ahead and try it without the gyro if you don't believe me.
I use it without gyro. It was almost impossible, but then I gave it a little thing called time, and then I got used to it, now it's fine. I still don't use the gyro for aiming
[QUOTE="infinite884"][QUOTE="savebattery"] The gyro aiming is a band aid for the terrible sticks. If you and your friends haven't noticed you must not be very discerning gamers.savebatteryhahahah, so if me and my friends think a little function of a game is cool we're discerning gamers? alright then, if you can't learn how to work a handheld with 2 joysticks you must be a idiot gamer. It's fine if you like the concept or even implementation of the gyro aiming, but you have to realize it's only in the game because trying to aim without it is near impossible. Go ahead and try it without the gyro if you don't believe me. ..or maybe thats how they designed the game, to show off and use the all of the vita's features and i never said i use the gyro as my main way of shooting, i use it once in a while but other then that i use the analog sticks
It's fine if you like the concept or even implementation of the gyro aiming, but you have to realize it's only in the game because trying to aim without it is near impossible. Go ahead and try it without the gyro if you don't believe me.[QUOTE="savebattery"][QUOTE="infinite884"] hahahah, so if me and my friends think a little function of a game is cool we're discerning gamers? alright then, if you can't learn how to work a handheld with 2 joysticks you must be a idiot gamer._Matt_
I use it without gyro. It was almost impossible, but then I gave it a little thing called time, and then I got used to it, now it's fine. I still don't use the gyro for aiming
Playing it long enough so that you know how to compensate for the bad controls is not the same thing as good controls. I played Sonic '06 long enough to compensate but it still controlled like ass.The gyro aiming is a band aid for the terrible sticks. If you and your friends haven't noticed you must not be very discerning gamers.savebatteryWell I'm glad that you have such extensive experience with the machine. to the point that you are able to tell people that actually own it that they are wrong.... :roll:
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