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Is Zelda confirmed for Wii U? If so, then "N" missing the boat, the next Zelda should be a launch title for NX.
Zelda U doesn't even have a suggested release date yet. But at any rate, I'll agree because:
1. Fallout 3 was terrible.
2. Bethesda showed they don't know a thing about the series they supposedly "cherish" via some pathetic world-building and puddle-deep RPG mechanics.
3. Fallout 4 looks like a full-fledged, fundmentally poor looking action game that gamers will eat up, because they have bad taste.
My preference goes with Zelda ...
I could never get into fallout RPGs ... In fact , i cant understand whats so great about them.
Zelda blends many things together nicely and i dont consider it RPG ... so this comparison is fail.
For the sake of poll though i vote Zelda easily.
Is Zelda confirmed for Wii U? If so, then "N" missing the boat, the next Zelda should be a launch title for NX.
It's for both. Twilight Princess style.
Is Zelda confirmed for Wii U? If so, then "N" missing the boat, the next Zelda should be a launch title for NX.
It's for both. Twilight Princess style.
Ahh, okay, thanks for the info. Eh, I suppose Wii U owners are owed at least that much, good on "N". :)
Well it wouldn't be fair for me to just vote Fallout 4 despite I'm hype for that game but there's nothing to discuss on Zelda U atm cause there hasn't been any news update and we don't have a release date set so why even discussing this at all? This thread is just pain silly. Sorry but I can't vote on this cause Fallout 4 release this November and Zelda U release next year, not to mention there's no release date for it.
@Salt_The_Fries:
I love the witcher3. If fallout 4 blows that away, then i cannot wait to indulge. However, i have never played any of the other fallouts. Hopefully it'll be easy to follow.
Judging by Fallout 3 and New Vegas, Fallout is not in the same league as The Witcher 3. Certainly not 10/10 material.
Fallout 1 & 2 were among the best of their time though.
People will be too absorbed into Todd Howard's hype to even care about Zelda U.
Though it doesn't help that Eiji Aonuma has a reputation in the Zelda community akin to Steven Moffat in the Doctor Who community.
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Fallout 4 will have more of a fun setting to explore, but the playing it part will be lame.
Zelda will have a lot of personality, but then have a mixed bag of gameplay. Some supremely well designed dungeons that make the most of Zelda's simple mechanics, and then entire slogs of monotonous bullshit that only the Nintendo fans would apologize for. Especially the psycho Zelda fans.
In both cases i'd rather play a RPG from Obsidian or Larian, or play Metroid.
People will be too absorbed into Todd Howard's hype to even care about Zelda U.
Though it doesn't help that Eiji Aonuma has a reputation in the Zelda community akin to Steven Moffat in the Doctor Who community.
Odd. Mr Moffat turned it back into a sci-fi show.
@Salt_The_Fries: Man I know you've probably explained yourself a million times now, but why didn't you like it again? Is it a quantity over quality thing?
I'm waiting for the enhanced edition myself but i'm really looking forward to playing it. One thing I can tell is that there were a lot of bugs patched and the patch sizes are ridiculous.
There won't be Enhanced Edition for Witcher 3. Already confirmed multiple times.
No, it's a 3D Zelda, and there's never been a good 3D Zelda.
Literally the highest rated and community/critically acclaimed game in existence is a 3D Zelda...
And GTA 4 is an amazing game then, amirite?
I also really doubt the highest rated community rated game is Ocarina of Time. It's not 1998 anymore.
Yeah, if you can't see what GTA IV did for the franchise than that's your view.
GTA IV was a huge improvement over SA, generational leap for sure. Just because it had less side stuff to do, boring use of the cell phone and a smaller (though insanely more detailed) world, doesn't make it a bad game.
Totally agree. I liked the realistic approach to the game (GTA 4). I was underwhelmed by San Andreas after playing Mafia.
@drinkerofjuice: But it's 3d zelda mooksi
This much is true. It's a lesser evil situation at hand here.
Yeah, if you can't see what GTA IV did for the franchise than that's your view.
GTA IV was a huge improvement over SA, generational leap for sure. Just because it had less side stuff to do, boring use of the cell phone and a smaller (though insanely more detailed) world, doesn't make it a bad game.
it totally was. It replaced San Andreas bad shooting with more bad shooting. Took out the variety of San Andreas and stripped it down to a bunch of monotonous dull shoot outs that lacked any sense of spectacle that both its predecessors and its sequel (GTAV) did better. So improvement? The only improvement is visual. Anything else can be debated, even the shooting mechanics weren't good enough to warrant praise, much less the up its own ass story.
Grand Theft Auto 4 is totally a bad game, it primarily comes down to going places to shoot dudes in the face, and it sucks at it. Which I guess isn't a bad game when a game sucks at the core thing it is trying to do.
Who gives a damn about another bs FO from Toddler & co. already.
Fallout is dead for now, as long as it's in their grubby hands.
Where's the Age of Decadence review ?
Haven't played Zelda since the 80s on NES. Didn't even know they still made these games.
I'm waiting for the enhanced edition myself but i'm really looking forward to playing it. One thing I can tell is that there were a lot of bugs patched and the patch sizes are ridiculous.
There won't be Enhanced Edition for Witcher 3. Already confirmed multiple times.
They could just be saying that so people will buy it now.
But if it doesn't get one, then i'll just wait for a good sale on GOG.
Garden Warfare 2 will knock them both out. :D
Edit: Also, the OP should have had a third option "Neither, Halo 5's campaign will beat both!" :D
Totally agree. I liked the realistic approach to the game (GTA 4). I was underwhelmed by San Andreas after playing Mafia.
Glad to find someone else like GTA IV more than SA :P
The game made a lot of things more realistic, most noticeably the physics. But they also made that really silly with the way you drove while drunk and the way people could get stuck to your car if they wanted back in.
San Andreas had: lots of side missions, a huge world, so many modes of transportation... I still didn't like it as much as Vice City or GTA IV.
Yeah, if you can't see what GTA IV did for the franchise than that's your view.
GTA IV was a huge improvement over SA, generational leap for sure. Just because it had less side stuff to do, boring use of the cell phone and a smaller (though insanely more detailed) world, doesn't make it a bad game.
it totally was. It replaced San Andreas bad shooting with more bad shooting. Took out the variety of San Andreas and stripped it down to a bunch of monotonous dull shoot outs that lacked any sense of spectacle that both its predecessors and its sequel (GTAV) did better. So improvement? The only improvement is visual. Anything else can be debated, even the shooting mechanics weren't good enough to warrant praise, much less the up its own ass story.
Grand Theft Auto 4 is totally a bad game, it primarily comes down to going places to shoot dudes in the face, and it sucks at it. Which I guess isn't a bad game when a game sucks at the core thing it is trying to do.
See, I can say the same thing:
It took out SA's GIGANTIC but dull and empty world and replaced with a city that actually felt alive.
Why, yes, GTA IV was the first open world game that actually felt alive. Where people didn't just pop in with pop-in streaming but it actually looked like they were going on with their lives.
If GTA IVs shooting is bad, IIIs, Vice Citys and SAs was craptastic.
You forgot phsyics, which was a big improvement in GTA IV.
GTA IV did a lot of things for the series, for the open-world genre. (and sure yeah, it took out things compared to SA) If you refuse to see those things, that is your choice :)
See, I can say the same thing:
It took out SA's GIGANTIC but dull and empty world and replaced with a city that actually felt alive.
Why, yes, GTA IV was the first open world game that actually felt alive. Where people didn't just pop in with pop-in streaming but it actually looked like they were going on with their lives.
If GTA IVs shooting is bad, IIIs, Vice Citys and SAs was craptastic.
You forgot phsyics, which was a big improvement in GTA IV.
GTA IV did a lot of things for the series, for the open-world genre. (and sure yeah, it took out things compared to SA) If you refuse to see those things, that is your choice :)
If the argument is that both are shit, trust me I don't care enough to hold a torch for San Andreas or Rockstar for that matter. But this myth that you can't call GTA 4 hot garbage, when yes it clearly sucks at the thing it is trying to do, yeah it sucks balls.
And felt alive? You had way less to do, while Rockstar took one of the greatest cities on God's green earth, made it ugly, and took all the fun out of it. It had less to provide than GTA 3. Did it have atmosphere? Sure, but one entirely lost the second its half assed plot was involved. In contrast Vice City and San Andreas had a sense of style, tone, and setting that fit their narrative better (Be it ghetto scarface, or 90s hip hop flicks with San Andreas). Mostly because both games aped way better movies, but I digress.
Yeah San Andreas shooting was bad, I accepted this reality, but San Andreas can off set its shooting by giving you a variety of mission scenarios GTA 4 doesn't even come close to providing.
Everything it adds is superficial, where as everything it took out hurts the playing it part. So yeah I'll back the game that made the playing it part still entertaining vs the games whose claim to fame is that it did a really shitty american dream storyline that requires you to shut your brain off to work, under the guise of "irony". Game blows chunks.
Totally agree. I liked the realistic approach to the game (GTA 4). I was underwhelmed by San Andreas after playing Mafia.
Glad to find someone else like GTA IV more than SA :P
The game made a lot of things more realistic, most noticeably the physics. But they also made that really silly with the way you drove while drunk and the way people could get stuck to your car if they wanted back in.
San Andreas had: lots of side missions, a huge world, so many modes of transportation... I still didn't like it as much as Vice City or GTA IV.
I was very hyped for San Andreas. But when I finally got my hands on it, I was underwhelmed by its blocky graphics and goofy setting.
GTA 4 had a lot better characterization and it was a lot more mature IMO. But people didn't like it because it didn't allow them to jump from hundreds of KM high mountains in a car, just to survive the crash and be like "Weeeeeee" when in air.
anything can blow fallout 4.
including you? Or is this just a fantasy of yours to see Fallout get blown?
@Salt_The_Fries: Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. You just have poor taste.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
Controls just fine. You just suck at playing the game.
@Salt_The_Fries: Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. You just have poor taste.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
Controls just fine. You just suck at playing the game.
But critics around the globe agree.
@Salt_The_Fries: Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. You just have poor taste.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
Controls just fine. You just suck at playing the game.
But critics around the globe agree.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt
A 94 on meta disagrees with you. Games with bad controls aren't universally praised to that level. You just want to blame the game for you not becoming good at controlling it.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
Controls just fine. You just suck at playing the game.
But critics around the globe agree.
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt
A 94 on meta disagrees with you. Games with bad controls aren't universally praised to that level. You just want to blame the game for you not becoming good at controlling it.
But Zelda has a 99 metacritic.
@Salt_The_Fries: Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. You just have poor taste.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
OOT is garbage in every way and was only good for it's 15 minutes on the shelf before it got passed.
You're the kind of person who's killing the industry.
How can the highest rated video game of all time be garbage in every way? You do realise how ridiculous you sound, right?
If the argument is that both are shit, trust me I don't care enough to hold a torch for San Andreas or Rockstar for that matter. But this myth that you can't call GTA 4 hot garbage, when yes it clearly sucks at the thing it is trying to do, yeah it sucks balls.
And felt alive? You had way less to do, while Rockstar took one of the greatest cities on God's green earth, made it ugly, and took all the fun out of it. It had less to provide than GTA 3. Did it have atmosphere? Sure, but one entirely lost the second its half assed plot was involved. In contrast Vice City and San Andreas had a sense of style, tone, and setting that fit their narrative better (Be it ghetto scarface, or 90s hip hop flicks with San Andreas). Mostly because both games aped way better movies, but I digress.
Yeah San Andreas shooting was bad, I accepted this reality, but San Andreas can off set its shooting by giving you a variety of mission scenarios GTA 4 doesn't even come close to providing.
Everything it adds is superficial, where as everything it took out hurts the playing it part. So yeah I'll back the game that made the playing it part still entertaining vs the games whose claim to fame is that it did a really shitty american dream storyline that requires you to shut your brain off to work, under the guise of "irony". Game blows chunks.
No, the argument is not that both are shit. I loved playing every GTA game.
But I like GTA IV way more than I did San Andreas, and I got hundreds of hours of fun out of San Andreas.
GTA SAs story felt like a joke, and nobody followed the storyline anyway. Everyone was trying to pass their drivers tests, flying tests, etc...
Great that SA had so much side stuff to do, I absolutely applaud it for that. But GTA IV was clearly more about telling a personal story and the characters in Niko's life (even if they got annoying at times, it's still clear what Rockstar tried to do)
They tried to get you more involved in the story, get you more involved in the world. And to me that worked.
I was at awe when I first saw how big SA's world was... But when I saw GTA IVs bustling(?) metropolis at night I was truly at awe.
Did it take out some of the fun ? I really don't know. It took out side stuff, sure. Seeing those Physics at work was all the more fun for me than the 'flat' feeling GTA III trilogy. I laughed my ass off while driving drunk, while there was someone clinging to my car, trying to get his car back.
I still had loads of fun in GTA IV, even outside missions. Even if it had less side stuff than even perhaps GTA III.
@Salt_The_Fries: Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. You just have poor taste.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
OOT is garbage in every way and was only good for it's 15 minutes on the shelf before it got passed.
You're the kind of person who's killing the industry.
How can the highest rated video game of all time be garbage in every way? You do realise how ridiculous you sound, right?
I said it was good on release, then it aged, terribly. It had a shelf life of about a month before the things it did right were overshadowed by the things it did wrong.
You also have to remember the reviewing industry back then, it's not nearly as well done as today's reviews.
@Salt_The_Fries: Witcher 3 is a masterpiece. You just have poor taste.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
OOT is garbage in every way and was only good for it's 15 minutes on the shelf before it got passed.
You're the kind of person who's killing the industry.
How can the highest rated video game of all time be garbage in every way? You do realise how ridiculous you sound, right?
I said it was good on release, then it aged, terribly. It had a shelf life of about a month before the things it did right were overshadowed by the things it did wrong.
You also have to remember the reviewing industry back then, it's not nearly as well done as today's reviews.
But it still has better controls.
I know that the new Zelda is supposedly going to embrace world building and non linear gameplay to compete with the likes of Fallout, but I have my doubts. A Link Between Worlds was a fun game, but it's non-linear elements were very forced and didn't really go all the way. I prefer world building to narrative, and that's where a series like Fallout crushes a series like Zelda.
I don't have much confidence that Fallout 4 won't be like the last three Bethesda games to hit the market.
Buggy, nearly-broken, feature-lacking, incredibly bland presentation and critically the most highly-acclaimed game of all time.
But Ocarina Of Time has better controls.
OOT is garbage in every way and was only good for it's 15 minutes on the shelf before it got passed.
You're the kind of person who's killing the industry.
How can the highest rated video game of all time be garbage in every way? You do realise how ridiculous you sound, right?
I said it was good on release, then it aged, terribly. It had a shelf life of about a month before the things it did right were overshadowed by the things it did wrong.
You also have to remember the reviewing industry back then, it's not nearly as well done as today's reviews.
But the thing is, you're still too critical. Obviously is has aged. But "garbage in every way" is still clearly too critical. It's still a fun game to play.
Like eveything I've seen about Fallout 4 ...haven't seen much of Zelda U/Zelda U-NX...& Fallout 4 coming out this year..so it wins. :P
I said it was good on release, then it aged, terribly. It had a shelf life of about a month before the things it did right were overshadowed by the things it did wrong.
You also have to remember the reviewing industry back then, it's not nearly as well done as today's reviews.
While I don't think OOT is the best game ever(Majora's Mask is). You're being incredibly stupid for calling it garbage. What did it do wrong?
I said it was good on release, then it aged, terribly. It had a shelf life of about a month before the things it did right were overshadowed by the things it did wrong.
You also have to remember the reviewing industry back then, it's not nearly as well done as today's reviews.
While I don't think OOT is the best game ever(Majora's Mask is). You're being incredibly stupid for calling it garbage. What did it do wrong?
Stole his lunch money or something.
He is so personally offended by everything Nintendo, you shouldn't take anything he says about them seriously.
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