WIRED confirms that Wii software outsold 360 software in December NPD

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#51 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]There is no damage control. You're happy because the Wii outsold XBOX 360 software by 1 unit, if you exclude the controller sales, during the busiest shopping month of the year. I'm sure you sheep are a lot more excited than the 3rd parties are.JayPee89

1 game, not 1 unit.

Edit: And it's two games.

Games are referred to as units as well when you're talking sales.


Actually no. A unit means how many are sold. Meaning that game X sold Y units.
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#53 effthat
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[QUOTE="effthat"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]That's fine. They're still counting controller sales. If that's what you sheep call software then so be it.JayPee89

you know, you actually can *play* Wii play.

It's even in the title.

Let's do him the favor of not counting this particular title. That still leaves Wii sales in the top 100 outnumbering 360 sales in the top 100 by 1. It also increases the ratio of 3rd parties to 1st/2nd parties. So if we do remove WiiPlay. We still come out on top for sure, and it does even more to prove that 3rd party support is alive and well in all areas of the Wii's value chain.

Outnumbering them by 1 unit during the busiest shopping month of the year on the hottest holiday item. 3rd parties am rejoicing. :roll:

I see you have trouble following so I'll break this out slow and then do a complete overview.

Top 100 NPD numbers for units moved:
20 spaces held by Wii
18 spaces held by 360
Wii has more

Take away WiiPlay

19 spaces held for Wii
18 spaces held for 360
Wii still wins

Now of those original 20 for the Wii 15 aren't Nintendo. the ratio is only 1/4 of games sold are by Nintendo.

Take WiiPlay out of the mix again. 19 games. 15 Aren't nintendo 4/19 is at the lowest denominator, so we'll convert both to percentages.

1/4= 25% of games sold for the Wii are made by Nintendo
4/19=21.052...% of games sold for the Wii are made by Nintendo

So even if we remove WiiPlay the Wii's software still holds more place on the top 100. This means that of the 100 most wanted games, 20 (including WiiPlay) of them were for the Wii while only 18 were for the 360.

As far as the continuous rants about Nobody being able to sell software for the Wii unless it's Nintendo, we can look at the cold hard facts and realize that that isn't the case. Of the 20 games that made the top 100 most wanted list, games produced by other companies were 300% higher than games produced by Nintendo. Take out WiiPlay and that ratio improves.

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#54 JayPee89
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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="effthat"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]

[QUOTE="JayPee89"]That's fine. They're still counting controller sales. If that's what you sheep call software then so be it.effthat

you know, you actually can *play* Wii play.

It's even in the title.

Let's do him the favor of not counting this particular title. That still leaves Wii sales in the top 100 outnumbering 360 sales in the top 100 by 1. It also increases the ratio of 3rd parties to 1st/2nd parties. So if we do remove WiiPlay. We still come out on top for sure, and it does even more to prove that 3rd party support is alive and well in all areas of the Wii's value chain.

Outnumbering them by 1 unit during the busiest shopping month of the year on the hottest holiday item. 3rd parties am rejoicing. :roll:

I see you have trouble following so I'll break this out slow and then do a complete overview.

Top 100 NPD numbers for units moved:
20 spaces held by Wii
18 spaces held by 360
Wii has more

Take away WiiPlay

19 spaces held for Wii
18 spaces held for 360
Wii still wins

Now of those original 20 for the Wii 15 aren't Nintendo. the ratio is only 1/4 of games sold are by Nintendo.

Take WiiPlay out of the mix again. 19 games. 15 Aren't nintendo 4/19 is at the lowest denominator, so we'll convert both to percentages.

1/4= 25% of games sold for the Wii are made by Nintendo
4/19=21.052...% of games sold for the Wii are made by Nintendo

So even if we remove WiiPlay the Wii's software still holds more place on the top 100. This means that of the 100 most wanted games, 20 (including WiiPlay) of them were for the Wii while only 18 were for the 360.

As far as the continuous rants about Nobody being able to sell software for the Wii unless it's Nintendo, we can look at the cold hard facts and realize that that isn't the case. Of the 20 games that made the top 100 most wanted list, games produced by other companies were 300% higher than games produced by Nintendo. Take out WiiPlay and that ratio improves.

See my post above. The future looks bright. :roll:
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#56 the_h_bomb
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Carnival Games 2 and Mario Party 9 FTW!!!!! Enjoy. :roll:JayPee89

OMG the games are casual that means they're not games!!!!

and if they're bundled with a controller that means they're not games!!!

none of the software on the wii is a game!!!!

XBox 360 wins!!!!

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#57 BillHarrison7
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Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to say the Wii is "Kiddy" etc. But, basically the 360 moves games year round, I think a big part of the Wiis big december is simply "Christmas" when kids get a few games for presents etc. Now the same will apply to the 360, but I think it will hold better year round, which as a whole we have seen to be true.
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#58 JayPee89
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[QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]

They're counting controller sales. :roll:

gomanthethird

15 of Nintendo's top 20 games were 3rd party

And? None of them account for the 4.5 million that WiiPlay does. Take away those sales, and it's not even close.

4.5 million? Why are you bringing up Wii Plays total sales when this discussion is about December NPD?

Bitter much?

Dude is just damage controlling. I think ignoring him is probably the best answer.

There is no damage control. You're happy because the Wii outsold XBOX 360 software by 1 unit, if you exclude the controller sales, during the busiest shopping month of the year. I'm sure you sheep are a lot more excited than the 3rd parties are.

No I'd say he's right... you are damage controlling

Wii software selling on par with 360 software in the most important retail month of the year is a big deal. With the rate the Wii's userbase is growing, it's a sure sign of Nintendo's dominance down the road.

Carnival Games 2 and Mario Party 9 FTW!!!!! Enjoy. :roll:

lol I look forward to seeing your bitter tears all gen long.

Bitter? Not at all. If you're into the Wii's library then you enjoy it. I'll stick to the grown man stuff.
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[spoiler]

I see you have trouble following so I'll break this out slow and then do a complete overview.

Top 100 NPD numbers for units moved:
20 spaces held by Wii
18 spaces held by 360
Wii has more

Take away WiiPlay

19 spaces held for Wii
18 spaces held for 360
Wii still wins

Now of those original 20 for the Wii 15 aren't Nintendo. the ratio is only 1/4 of games sold are by Nintendo.

Take WiiPlay out of the mix again. 19 games. 15 Aren't nintendo 4/19 is at the lowest denominator, so we'll convert both to percentages.

1/4= 25% of games sold for the Wii are made by Nintendo
4/19=21.052...% of games sold for the Wii are made by Nintendo

So even if we remove WiiPlay the Wii's software still holds more place on the top 100. This means that of the 100 most wanted games, 20 (including WiiPlay) of them were for the Wii while only 18 were for the 360.

As far as the continuous rants about Nobody being able to sell software for the Wii unless it's Nintendo, we can look at the cold hard facts and realize that that isn't the case. Of the 20 games that made the top 100 most wanted list, games produced by other companies were 300% higher than games produced by Nintendo. Take out WiiPlay and that ratio improves.

[/spoiler]

effthat

It's so beautiful :cry:
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#60 darkslider99
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Bitter? Not at all. If you're into the Wii's library then you enjoy it. I'll stick to the grown man stuff.JayPee89

You guys are going to be modded if you don't fix those quotes...
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#61 gomanthethird
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Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to say the Wii is "Kiddy" etc. But, basically the 360 moves games year round, I think a big part of the Wiis big december is simply "Christmas" when kids get a few games for presents etc. Now the same will apply to the 360, but I think it will hold better year round, which as a whole we have seen to be true. BillHarrison7
The Wii's userbase is exploding... it would be short sighted not to see that it's going to take over software sales at some point. By the looks of Dec npd, that day appears to be coming sooner than I thought.
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#62 Hoffgod
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And once again a closed-minded "hardcore" gamer (I'm looking at you JayPee89) is befuddled, shocked, and unjustifyably appalled at the success of the Wii, especially it's ability to tap into markets that aren't him. Threatened by the fact that the industry no longer appeals to him and his bretheren only any more, he resorts to damage control, borderline trolling, and trying to act like a holier-than-thou know-it-all. Sorry, JayPee, I'm not buying it. The Wii surpassed the 360 and it did so on strength of both core and non-core gamer appeal. What you're seeing is the emergence of the new market, a mixture of demographics to create a more diverse and stronger games market. Your scared juvenile-esque reaction only makes you look silly. /pontification
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#63 gomanthethird
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And once again a closed-minded "hardcore" gamer (I'm looking at you JayPee89) is befuddled, shocked, and unjustifyably appalled at the success of the Wii, especially it's ability to tap into markets that aren't him. Threatened by the fact that the industry no longer appeals to him and his bretheren only any more, he resorts to damage control, borderline trolling, and trying to act like a holier-than-thou know-it-all. Sorry, JayPee, I'm not buying it. The Wii surpassed the 360 and it did so on strength of both core and non-core gamer appeal. What you're seeing is the emergence of the new market, a mixture of demographics to create a more diverse and stronger games market. Your scared juvenile-esque reaction only makes you look silly. /pontificationHoffgod
A higher quality, more insightful post than we're used to in this wasteland. Nice.
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#64 GundamGuy0
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You would think Wii haters would have learned there lesson by now...
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#65 dotWithShoes
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The Wii Fad will end, just wait.. till next generation.. it'll end.
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#66 Heil68
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So much for "Wii software doesn't sell".Hoffgod
15 out of the 20 wii titles aren't nintendo. so much for no 3rd party sales.Ontain
Whats the QUALITY of those games? I own a Wii and the only 3rd party games i own are Zach and Wiki, RE4 and Mercury Meltdown.
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Whats the QUALITY of those games? I own a Wii and the only 3rd party games i own are Zach and Wiki, RE4 and Mercury Meltdown.Heil68

they're probably garbage but like you said there aint much alternative on Wii

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[QUOTE="Hoffgod"]So much for "Wii software doesn't sell".Heil68
15 out of the 20 wii titles aren't nintendo. so much for no 3rd party sales.Ontain
Whats the QUALITY of those games? I own a Wii and the only 3rd party games i own are Zach and Wiki, RE4 and Mercury Meltdown.

Best selling third party game is Guitar Hero 3 I think, it could be M&S, but I'm not sure.

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#69 TerroRizing
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Kids get presents for christmas, which is why the wii software sold so well.
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#70 OGTiago
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[QUOTE="BambooBanger"]

WiiSports/WiiPlay FTW

Hoffgod
Wii Sports is a pack-in in America and isn't counted in the NPDs.

everywhere except japan.
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#71 Guybrush_3
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What makes this even more impressive is that the 360 still has a larger userbase in the US than the wii does.
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#72 Yours_is_green
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Kids get presents for christmas, which is why the wii software sold so well. TerroRizing

Only kids get presents? I better give back all the goodies (including games) I got from people in my life....they didn't realize CHRISTMAS IS FOR THE KIDS ONLY!!!

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What makes this even more impressive is that the 360 still has a larger userbase in the US than the wii does.Guybrush_3

QFT

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#74 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="JayPee89"][QUOTE="gomanthethird"][QUOTE="JayPee89"]

They're counting controller sales. :roll:

JayPee89
15 of Nintendo's top 20 games were 3rd party

And? None of them account for the 4.5 million that WiiPlay does. Take away those sales, and it's not even close.

we are talking about MONTHLY sales, not overall sales :|

That's fine. They're still counting controller sales. If that's what you sheep call software then so be it.

lol dude that's not the point, the point is Wii software is RISING.
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#75 Vanadium2k8
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Kids get presents for christmas, which is why the wii software sold so well. TerroRizing

Sorry, we are talking about US sales, not Planet Bovine.

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What makes this even more impressive is that the 360 still has a larger userbase in the US than the wii does.Guybrush_3
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#77 Gunraidan
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All I got to say is this......VGCHARTZ! :lol:

EDIT - I still can't believe people are saying that Wii Play shouldn't count.


It's so beautiful :cry:
darkslider99

All I can do is laugh! :lol: Seriously this is just too much! :lol:

Wait this thread is too boring I need to stir things up a bit....I know!

Hey fanboys! *whistles* over here!

Remember that article that stated that the Wii had more games during Q4 then the PS3 + 360 combined?

Now let's see how long it will take them to figure this one out.

EDIT I can't find the article anywhere! :cry:

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#78 the_h_bomb
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All I got to say is this......VGCHARTZ! :lol:

EDIT - I still can't believe people are saying that Wii Play shouldn't count.

Gunraidan

I'm guessing they wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Buzz or Scene it

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#79 nintendo-4life
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All I got to say is this......VGCHARTZ! :lol:

EDIT - I still can't believe people are saying that Wii Play shouldn't count.

Gunraidan

honestly? it shouldn't, it's 10$ game when it comes down to it.

but on the other hand, X360 had more time to bulid better library and better userbase so i think it's kinda fair :P