I'm sitting here watching my PSN update 3.66 only to be reminded that I can't do jack while waiting on my update. At least with Apple when IOS5 comes I'll get Delta downloads/updates while I can still use the device. While were on the subject, not having background installing is a joke too. My Apple device can download and install a 300 MG game faster than my PS3 can with a smaller game and on my iPhone it was all done while I was using it for other tasks. Lastly, Apple one button purchasing/updating >>>> versus PS3 menu after menu for purchases and updates. Anyone feeling me?
Guess this is why we need Apple in the market. To show the other companies how to make a stream lined services. MS jumped in with Xbox to teach Sony and Nintendo how to do online, now we Need Apple to show how to streamline software.
Uhmwut. What would you even need to so desperately do while waiting for a download? A quick one at that, 3.66 is not a major download. You can background download things on PS3, just not while playing games. (or while updating the system) Seems like someone's just nitpicking to me.
PS3 games download in the background but you have to watch them install.caseypayne69
Maybe because the PS3 would die trying to install and play games at the same time. Also, generally when you have a proper update, and not some piddly tiny tweak of an update, you have to let the machine do what its doing. After all it is reamping the foundation on which your games run on.
I hope downloads & installs are done in the background in the next consoles. Would be nice if updates only effected the parts of the system they were updating. Aka ps1 game function update yet you can still play a PS1 game while it's updating. It just takes effect after you close and restart the game.
No console lets you do anything when a game is downloading.charizard1605
Actually yes you can, or did you mean..."No, consoles let you do anything when a game is download." ? Otherwise you really need to check you facts/blind hatred.
Sony suck with software. I always wondered why updates for games on Sony games are always huge compared to the same update for the 360 version. Thats what i love about the 360, it updates games in seconds whereas if you havent played a PS3 game in a while, you could be in for a huge update
Guess this is why we need Apple in the market. ------------------------- Why, so we pay $900 for a console? I'm glad my PS3 doesn't perform like my Apple hardware. I had to send my iPod in 3 times in the first year I owned it to have the battery replaced. Apple is waaay overpriced and overrated.
I see where you're coming from with the background downloads (i.e. for large patches, large firmware updates, etc). It *IS* annoying to not be able to do that, even if you can set it to download overnight there should still be a better way. But as to what prompted this thread - 3.66 was practically nothing. It took literally 2 minutes to complete and install. Also as the guy previous to me said, Apple kinda sucks Overpriced + overrated..
Guess this is why we need Apple in the market. ------------------------- Why, so we pay $900 for a console? I'm glad my PS3 doesn't perform like my Apple hardware. I had to send my iPod in 3 times in the first year I owned it to have the battery replaced. Apple is waaay overpriced and overrated.forrester_fire
Not sure if I believe "3 times in 1st year". But I had 2 ipods (one a Ipod Nano, one a 1st generation IPOD touch). Both crapped out on me after 12-18 months. I always took care of them as well. Considering how overpriced they are I'm done with Apple products - if I care to get a standalone MP3 again it will be a Sony - or perhaps even a generic like a Sandisk. It's actually a shame Microsoft decided to leave this market, they never got a strong foothold but at least they had potential to be a competitor.
What about every other console and handheld for that matter? They can't do a single thing too, right? Damn... what are Apple fanboys called here again, SW? :P
[QUOTE="forrester_fire"]Guess this is why we need Apple in the market. ------------------------- Why, so we pay $900 for a console? I'm glad my PS3 doesn't perform like my Apple hardware. I had to send my iPod in 3 times in the first year I owned it to have the battery replaced. Apple is waaay overpriced and overrated.2Chalupas
Not sure if I believe "3 times in 1st year". But I had 2 ipods (one a Ipod Nano, one a 1st generation IPOD touch). Both crapped out on me after 12-18 months. I always took care of them as well. Considering how overpriced they are I'm done with Apple products - if I care to get a standalone MP3 again it will be a Sony - or perhaps even a generic like a Sandisk. It's actually a shame Microsoft decided to leave this market, they never got a strong foothold but at least they had potential to be a competitor.
No BS. The straw that broke the camels back was when it quit taking a charge as I was getting ready to leave on a ski trip. I had to run to best buy, at the last minute, and buy the Samsung I've had ever since (4 or 5 years now). It was one of the 20GB, early generation, with the hard drive. This was before the touch or the nano were on the market.
Guess this is why we need Apple in the market. To show the other companies how to make a stream lined services. MS jumped in with Xbox to teach Sony and Nintendo how to do online, now we Need Apple to show how to streamline software.caseypayne69
MS did not jump into the market to teach anyone how to do online,the the original xbox wasn't online on launch,and in fact after saying it would be free,MS changed their mind charged for it as well as for the DVD remote. MS got in to win the market. I don't want apple over priced and garbage products on the console market no thanks,that same company sell the damn Iphone4 without contract now for $649 dollars,that crap cost just $170 dollars to make,imagine how expensive and under power a console from apple would be,they would have a wii for $500 dollars and would call it the most revolutionary thing ever.and apple crazy fans would buy it.
You can't do a thing on the Other Consoles/Handhelds when they are updating.
Downloading stuff for the PS3 is just slow.
Downloading things for the PS3 works just like any other connection,check your mine download very fast. Thats strange as my downloads on the PS3 are generally slower than what one expect for the connection I have. Whats even stranger it seems to be a consensus that most PS3 users have noticed slower speeds....Hmmmm Denial?
I always wondered why updates for games on Sony games are always huge compared to the same update for the 360 version. RR360DD
Established standards on Xbox 360; the latest patch is downloaded and there's a maximum size limit for a patch--that way you're not waiting hours on end to download a large patch. (I'm looking at you MAG) Or you're not forced to download 6 or 7 patches if the game is rather dated (I'm looking at you Uncharted 2), instead only the latest patch is applied to Xbox 360 games.
Not sure what Apple product you are talking about TC, but my iPod Touch 4th gen sure won't let me do anything while it's updating. All I get is the picture of the cable and disc on the screen. Not to mention almost every time it updates it seems to want to delete everything out of the memory and re-install it all from itunes. Because for some reason it seems to think that it is now on another computer, and heaven forbid I would dare use another computer to update an ipod with itunes.
Yeah I know you can fix this by turning off the synch, and manually moving songs / apps back and forth, but why should you have to? Man itunes is some seriously broken software.
Edit: Just re-read OP, and realized TC was talking about a future Apple update (iOS 5.0)...not that Apple has the ability to update and do other things now.....never mind. So comparing a current PS3 firmware 3.66 against a future Apple firmware 5.0...that's fair.
[QUOTE="RR360DD"]I always wondered why updates for games on Sony games are always huge compared to the same update for the 360 version. Stevo_the_gamer
Established standards on Xbox 360; the latest patch is downloaded and there's a maximum size limit for a patch--that way you're not waiting hours on end to download a large patch. (I'm looking at you MAG) Or you're not forced to download 6 or 7 patches if the game is rather dated (I'm looking at you Uncharted 2), instead only the latest patch is applied to Xbox 360 games.
Yep, PSN is definitely slower. The importance of that depends on your patience. I don't notice it much because, being a PC gamer, consoles generally just seem slow to me.
Guess this is why we need Apple in the market. To show the other companies how to make a stream lined services. MS jumped in with Xbox to teach Sony and Nintendo how to do online, now we Need Apple to show how to streamline software.caseypayne69
No we don't. Do we really need another console pusher sucking up exclusives and multiplats?
Not sure what Apple product you are talking about TC, but my iPod Touch 4th gen sure won't let me do anything while it's updating. All I get is the picture of the cable and disc on the screen. Not to mention almost every time it updates it seems to want to delete everything out of the memory and re-install it all from itunes. Because for some reason it seems to think that it is now on another computer, and heaven forbid I would dare use another computer to update an ipod with itunes.
Yeah I know you can fix this by turning off the synch, and manually moving songs / apps back and forth, but why should you have to? Man itunes is some seriously broken software.
Yeah I really dislike iTunes, I wish it was more like Zune. It slowly is getting features that Zune has had for a while, but it is quite frustrating transfering files, and just managing them in general.
Download speed on PSN is just as fast as any other device I own, but yeah the background install would be nice. As far as updates go, PS+ is nice for that since it handles the updates for you.
Well I am still waiting for answers for the questions I asked. Care to show a pic of this Product you own? (Show me the serial number also). As I stated you are lying, and its quite annoying. You obviously have disdain towards apple, that is your all right be me. As far as your experience, how long did you have the iPod before it died(the first time). Seeing as how Best Buy sent it to Apple for ya. I am Fan of Windows, I do own Apple Products, iPhone(Amazing), iPad(Amazing), Macbook Pro(overpriced!! Needed for SDK). They make good products, Many are overpriced and lower their Value to the average customer, but that doesnt mean that they are bad products. Value=/=Quality. ------------------ I'm sitting at my desk, at work. Do you really think I have a handy picture of my junk iPod that's been sitting in a drawer for over 4 years? I don't have a digital camera (the wife may) anyway. I'd answer your questions, but they're nonsensical. It was probably 5 or 6 months before it died the first time. PM me your mailing address and I'll mail you the POS iPod. Seriously. I'm cheap. If it worked, I wouldn't have let it go to waste. I'll be waiting for your PM.
All downloads are slow on the PS3, it's just one of them things. Go and do something else whilst you're downloading.
LazyMushroom
No they are not is the fact that similar download on XBL and shorter in size,so you get the impression that PSN is slow,and update on PSN is like 160 MB,on live is just a couple of MB like 32 MB or something like that,so you get the impression that live is faster,also it doesn't help that you have to install things after download,on 360 you don't,but speed wise my connection take the same it would take on PC.
You can't do a thing on the Other Consoles/Handhelds when they are updating.
Downloading stuff for the PS3 is just slow.
Downloading things for the PS3 works just like any other connection,check your mine download very fast. Thats strange as my downloads on the PS3 are generally slower than what one expect for the connection I have. Whats even stranger it seems to be a consensus that most PS3 users have noticed slower speeds....Hmmmm Denial? The consensus around 360 fans maybe,download speed were slow back in 2006 2007,now now a download on my PS3 takes the same time it took on my PC,many people are the same,connection doesn't always have to do with your platform,but your connection or how much people around you use the same service,and even port problems.
Of all the reasons to want Apple in the console wars... that one's pretty weak. lol I'd much rather MS, Sony, and Nintendo implement a similar feature that worry about Apple making a whole new console just so I can have it. Or, better yet... I'd rather just wait five minutes for this to become a non-issue again.
Installing a game uses lots of hard drive bandwidth, not to mention ram, which the consoles lack. If you tried to install something on your PS3 and play a game at the same time the game would be unplayable.
[QUOTE="ImportBMWRacer"][QUOTE="tormentos"] Downloading things for the PS3 works just like any other connection,check your mine download very fast.tormentos
Thats strange as my downloads on the PS3 are generally slower than what one expect for the connection I have. Whats even stranger it seems to be a consensus that most PS3 users have noticed slower speeds....Hmmmm Denial? The consensus around 360 fans maybe,download speed were slow back in 2006 2007,now now a download on my PS3 takes the same time it took on my PC,many people are the same,connection doesn't always have to do with your platform,but your connection or how much people around you use the same service,and even port problems. My PS3 maxes my 20Mbps just like my PC. Maybe the UK PSN is faster than US or something.
Not sure what Apple product you are talking about TC, but my iPod Touch 4th gen sure won't let me do anything while it's updating. All I get is the picture of the cable and disc on the screen. Not to mention almost every time it updates it seems to want to delete everything out of the memory and re-install it all from itunes. Because for some reason it seems to think that it is now on another computer, and heaven forbid I would dare use another computer to update an ipod with itunes.
Yeah I know you can fix this by turning off the synch, and manually moving songs / apps back and forth, but why should you have to? Man itunes is some seriously broken software.
Edit: Just re-read OP, and realized TC was talking about a future Apple update (iOS 5.0)...not that Apple has the ability to update and do other things now.....never mind. So comparing a current PS3 firmware 3.66 against a future Apple firmware 5.0...that's fair.
coasterguy65
When the IOS5 update comes for IPhone, touch and IPad. It will offer Delta updates going forward and wirelessly. No longer plugging into the pc. Apple is trying to cut the cord on it's products and a PC. You guys need to watch the Apple Keynote that happened the same time as MS's E3. Watch ICloud. If I take a pic on my iPhone it instantly appears on my PC and IPad. No longer a need to synch devices to keep all your media. Watch the Keynote on this link. http://www.apple.com/
Wa wa is all I here on Apple pricing. Did you know with Apple your tech support SPEAKS English and is American versus buying a Dell and having someone from India that has bad English talk to me. I LOVE Apple and it's not some blind fanboism. It's cause they know their Shet. They just past Google as the most valuable company on the planet. Hey to the Zune > Itune comment. HahahaHAHaHa My wife works for AT&T. All ATT employees are issued one free phone. They all have IPhones for a reason. They pick iPhones so much that Att other vendors complained. For ing Att to force employees to no longer be allowed iPhones. Now windows crap phones and Blackberries. At least my wife can get an Andriod if she wants.
Not sure what Apple product you are talking about TC, but my iPod Touch 4th gen sure won't let me do anything while it's updating. All I get is the picture of the cable and disc on the screen. Not to mention almost every time it updates it seems to want to delete everything out of the memory and re-install it all from itunes. Because for some reason it seems to think that it is now on another computer, and heaven forbid I would dare use another computer to update an ipod with itunes.
Yeah I know you can fix this by turning off the synch, and manually moving songs / apps back and forth, but why should you have to? Man itunes is some seriously broken software.
Edit: Just re-read OP, and realized TC was talking about a future Apple update (iOS 5.0)...not that Apple has the ability to update and do other things now.....never mind. So comparing a current PS3 firmware 3.66 against a future Apple firmware 5.0...that's fair.
When the IOS5 update comes for IPhone, touch and IPad. It will offer Delta updates going forward and wirelessly. No longer plugging into the pc. Apple is trying to cut the cord on it's products and a PC. You guys need to watch the Apple Keynote that happened the same time as MS's E3. Watch ICloud. If I take a pic on my iPhone it instantly appears on my PC and IPad. No longer a need to synch devices to keep all your media. Watch the Keynote on this link. http://www.apple.com/ Wait, what? You're hating on the PS3 because it doesn't have technology that Apple has only just announced? :s
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