Witcher 2 on 360 was a flop commercially

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#101 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="sts106mat"] minecraft 360 made a profit within 1 hour of its release on XBLA though, so it cannot be that hard costly to develop particularly, as in both the Witcher 2 and Minecraft cases, they were porting from the PC.sts106mat
which developers have stated many times requires very little work, witcher 2 took 100 employees 11 months to port to the 360.

And i'll bet they have a much better sales to piracy rating than they did with the PC version. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/cd-projekt-reveals-extent-of-witcher-2-piracy/087936

Yes,but if you combine piracy with used game sales,the ratio will be much,much worse.

...Its not like a sales to piracy ratio matters anyway.Pirates gonna pirate no matter what happens.

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[QUOTE="001011000101101"]300k seems pretty good for a niche RPG that's only been out for a few weeks. DragonfireXZ95
It might be barely a profit with how much it costs to develop for the 360.

That's true, but let's give it some time. It's only been out for a few weeks, and you can't expect a game like this to sell millions of copies that fast.
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#103 delta3074
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[QUOTE="sts106mat"][QUOTE="delta3074"]which developers have stated many times requires very little work, witcher 2 took 100 employees 11 months to port to the 360.call_of_duty_10

And i'll bet they have a much better sales to piracy rating than they did with the PC version. http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/cd-projekt-reveals-extent-of-witcher-2-piracy/087936

Yes,but if you combine piracy with used game sales,the ratio will be much,much worse.

...Its not like a sales to piracy ratio matters anyway.Pirates gonna pirate no matter what happens.

It's the stupid assumption that people who pirate games would actually buy them if they couldn't pirate them that makes me laugh.
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#105 razgriz_101
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a commercial flop that managed to top charts in one of the bigger markets of the EU on consoles? m'kay lets actually wait for CD Projekt's figures or Namco Bandai's.

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#107 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Let's see, a game with an actual storyline, requiring some thought and investment, flops on 360. Why am I not surprised?

who would have thought skyrim sold more on 360 then it did on ps3..

Who would have thought that it's not exclusive....

um...neither is witcher...
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#108 mitu123
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This was expected.

your a flop

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#109 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

you guys grack me up, multiplats that do require a bit of thought like Fallout and the elder scrolls perform much better saleswise on the xbox 360 and the Ps3 actually has more exclusive shooters than the 360,loldelta3074

I can beat Skyrim rolling my face on the keyboard ... and the less said about its writing, the better.

Granted, but it's a total myth that 360 gamers only play shooters and don't play games that require any thought, look how well minecraft and trials evo is selling on the 360,it especiialy irks me when SONY fanboys call the 360 the shooter console when apparently only exclusives matter and the Ps3 has more exclusive shooters.

Maybe so, but less people buy the shooters. On the everyone buys Halo and Gears. And why wouldn't they? Halo especially is a great franchise, but I'm pointing it out still...
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#110 ShadowsDemon
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] who would have thought skyrim sold more on 360 then it did on ps3..WilliamRLBaker
Who would have thought that it's not exclusive....

um...neither is witcher...

Not anymore.
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#111 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"] Who would have thought that it's not exclusive....ShadowsDemon
um...neither is witcher...

Not anymore.

I don't think you understood the original comment was that a non shooter fps didn't sell well, my reply was that skyrim a non shoooter sold well on the 360 better than the ps3... It is illogical in that light to say that witcher 2 didn't sell well because its a non fps when non fps games sell well on the 360 all the time.
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From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it.
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#113 PAL360
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It could have sold more, if there were enough copies. Im still waiting for the game to get out on my country :?

On the 'it should come to PS3 because it would have no screen tearing'. We all know that the PS3 version would be lucky if it looked and performed as good as 360 one.

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#114 delta3074
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From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it. BibiMaghoo
it's the UK in general, we just entered another reccession and the goverment is taking so much money away from people that we can barely afford the essentials here, bloody Tory goverment, there mantra is that we only need enough money for everyday essentials no matter how hard we work, most people over here are literally working just to live and the goverment has the cheek to tell us we should all work harder, i had to trade in most of my best games just to get the witcher 2.
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#116 mitu123
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From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it. BibiMaghoo
Games aren't as good as they used to be...and economy.
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it. delta3074
it's the UK in general, we just entered another reccession and the goverment is taking so much money away from people that we can barely afford the essentials here, bloody Tory goverment, there mantra is that we only need enough money for everyday essentials no matter how hard we work, most people over here are literally working just to live and the goverment has the cheek to tell us we should all work harder, i had to trade in most of my best games just to get the witcher 2.

Wow, makes me glad I live in the US for once. lol
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it. delta3074
it's the UK in general, we just entered another reccession and the goverment is taking so much money away from people that we can barely afford the essentials here, bloody Tory goverment, there mantra is that we only need enough money for everyday essentials no matter how hard we work, most people over here are literally working just to live and the goverment has the cheek to tell us we should all work harder, i had to trade in most of my best games just to get the witcher 2.

Im gonna chime in and add to this.I left college a year ago with an HNC which is basicalyl been a wasted year sicne i cant get a job, im stuck in a part time weekend job which i have had since i was at high school and now applying for anything and everything.My current RAF application was just shut down AGAIN due in part to all these cuts.Im stuck in this dead end £120 a week job despite throwing my CV at near enough everyone in the past year.Although i might be getting an appretiship as a Mechanical Fitter through my current work hopefully.

My positions bad but i've got mates in a hell of a lot worse,Cameron doesnt seem to get the fact that spending cash might actually help us instead of going cut crazy.As the old saaying goes you've got to spend money to make money.

But im just one of many thats got a lot of issues.The more the tories balls up the more i feel inclined to vote for independence (im Scottish).

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#120 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it. DragonfireXZ95
it's the UK in general, we just entered another reccession and the goverment is taking so much money away from people that we can barely afford the essentials here, bloody Tory goverment, there mantra is that we only need enough money for everyday essentials no matter how hard we work, most people over here are literally working just to live and the goverment has the cheek to tell us we should all work harder, i had to trade in most of my best games just to get the witcher 2.

Wow, makes me glad I live in the US for once. lol

just as bad here for alot of people I've had to ignore achievements and just get through my games as soon as possible and sell em cause I can't afford to have a large backlog and I've not been able to buy any major games as of late cause I need to you know eat...I've actually had to start going to food pantries so I can make food stretch or get it for free so I can actually pay bills.
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#121 tenaka2
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No surprise there, xbox casuals only by the well known franchise games.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="delta3074"]it's the UK in general, we just entered another reccession and the goverment is taking so much money away from people that we can barely afford the essentials here, bloody Tory goverment, there mantra is that we only need enough money for everyday essentials no matter how hard we work, most people over here are literally working just to live and the goverment has the cheek to tell us we should all work harder, i had to trade in most of my best games just to get the witcher 2.WilliamRLBaker
Wow, makes me glad I live in the US for once. lol

just as bad here for alot of people I've had to ignore achievements and just get through my games as soon as possible and sell em cause I can't afford to have a large backlog and I've not been able to buy any major games as of late cause I need to you know eat...I've actually had to start going to food pantries so I can make food stretch or get it for free so I can actually pay bills.

Ouch, and here I am buying all the new games, just purchased the 680 GTX, a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle, a new 23" monitor and a 3DS. lol
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#123 freedomfreak
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lol

silly tc.

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#124 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"][QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it. sts106mat
Games aren't as good as they used to be...and economy.

or.....games are lasting people longer than the used to.

That shouldn't stop them from buying more games.

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#125 dommeus
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[QUOTE="ShadowsDemon"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Let's see, a game with an actual storyline, requiring some thought and investment, flops on 360. Why am I not surprised?

who would have thought skyrim sold more on 360 then it did on ps3..

Who would have thought that it's not exclusive....

Neither is TW2
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#127 PAL360
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No surprise there, xbox casuals only by the well known franchise games.

tenaka2

To many options. But yeah, TW2 deserves more sales.

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#128 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="sts106mat"] or.....games are lasting people longer than the used to.sts106mat

That shouldn't stop them from buying more games.

it doesn't, they just buy them when they get bored of the last one. whats the point in buying 10 games all at once?

So you can play them later...I just bought 8 games in one day recently and I have plenty to play and don't need a lot more(like over 5) anymore games anytime soon, hell I just bought another game because I beaten the few I recently got.

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#129 WilliamRLBaker
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Wow, makes me glad I live in the US for once. lol

just as bad here for alot of people I've had to ignore achievements and just get through my games as soon as possible and sell em cause I can't afford to have a large backlog and I've not been able to buy any major games as of late cause I need to you know eat...I've actually had to start going to food pantries so I can make food stretch or get it for free so I can actually pay bills.

Ouch, and here I am buying all the new games, just purchased the 680 GTX, a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle, a new 23" monitor and a 3DS. lol

cant tell if your trying to be jerk and rub it in or not...
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#130 mitu123
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Wow, makes me glad I live in the US for once. lolDragonfireXZ95
just as bad here for alot of people I've had to ignore achievements and just get through my games as soon as possible and sell em cause I can't afford to have a large backlog and I've not been able to buy any major games as of late cause I need to you know eat...I've actually had to start going to food pantries so I can make food stretch or get it for free so I can actually pay bills.

Ouch, and here I am buying all the new games, just purchased the 680 GTX, a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle, a new 23" monitor and a 3DS. lol

Oh very nice, 2GB or 4GB? Congrats either way.

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#131 DarkOfKnight
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Hey TC, I'd bet you a lot of 360 nerds have a PC as well. No need to buy it twice, that happens you know. People owning more than 1 gaming device.
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#133 BibiMaghoo
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[QUOTE="BibiMaghoo"]From what I have seen of sales figures in the last two months. Nothing has sold well. Game sales have taken a massive dive globally. Why this is? anyone guess, but it is not restricted to Witcher 2. Of course it doesn't help when some UK stores are not even selling it. delta3074
bloody Tory goverment.

Don't get me started. I lost my job because of their cuts. It was the best job I have ever had :(
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"] just as bad here for alot of people I've had to ignore achievements and just get through my games as soon as possible and sell em cause I can't afford to have a large backlog and I've not been able to buy any major games as of late cause I need to you know eat...I've actually had to start going to food pantries so I can make food stretch or get it for free so I can actually pay bills.mitu123

Ouch, and here I am buying all the new games, just purchased the 680 GTX, a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle, a new 23" monitor and a 3DS. lol

Oh very nice, 2GB or 4GB? Congrats either way.

Benchmarks even at 2560x1600 have shown no improvement in frame rate whether the 2gb or 4gb version were used. And that was with Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033 + many other games. Maybe it would make a difference with a multi monitor setup but most people still play around 1080P.
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#135 Drakan11
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Witcher 2 is neither a shooter or a kinect casual. They mine as well have released crap on a stick for 360 and it would have sold as much as witcher 2.
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#136 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Ouch, and here I am buying all the new games, just purchased the 680 GTX, a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle, a new 23" monitor and a 3DS. lolRyviusARC

Oh very nice, 2GB or 4GB? Congrats either way.

Benchmarks even at 2560x1600 have shown no improvement in frame rate whether the 2gb or 4gb version were used. And that was with Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033 + many other games. Maybe it would make a difference with a multi monitor setup but most people still play around 1080P.

Yeah that's true. Though future proofing wouldn't hurt incase you go that route.=p Plus unlike most I game above 1080p.

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[QUOTE="RyviusARC"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Oh very nice, 2GB or 4GB? Congrats either way.

mitu123

Benchmarks even at 2560x1600 have shown no improvement in frame rate whether the 2gb or 4gb version were used. And that was with Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033 + many other games. Maybe it would make a difference with a multi monitor setup but most people still play around 1080P.

Yeah that's true. Though future proofing wouldn't hurt incase you go that route.=p Plus unlike most I game above 1080p.

Yeah but usually when people future proof they think they will have it for years and then just buy a new better one even when the one they have isn't maxed out. But I know you are reaching limits with your 460s

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Of course PS3 has more shooters. It has more everything. 360 have no games

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#139 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="RyviusARC"] Benchmarks even at 2560x1600 have shown no improvement in frame rate whether the 2gb or 4gb version were used. And that was with Battlefield 3 and Metro 2033 + many other games. Maybe it would make a difference with a multi monitor setup but most people still play around 1080P.seanmcloughlin

Yeah that's true. Though future proofing wouldn't hurt incase you go that route.=p Plus unlike most I game above 1080p.

Yeah but usually when people future proof they think they will have it for years and then just buy a new better one even when the one they have isn't maxed out. But I know you are reaching limits with your 460s

That's why I want 2-3 of them.:P

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Wow, makes me glad I live in the US for once. lol

just as bad here for alot of people I've had to ignore achievements and just get through my games as soon as possible and sell em cause I can't afford to have a large backlog and I've not been able to buy any major games as of late cause I need to you know eat...I've actually had to start going to food pantries so I can make food stretch or get it for free so I can actually pay bills.

Ouch, and here I am buying all the new games, just purchased the 680 GTX, a Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle, a new 23" monitor and a 3DS. lol

If you're an adult and live with parents who pay the rent and some bills and feed you, yeah you can buy all that...
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#141 DeadMan1290
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Of course PS3 has more shooters. It has more everything. 360 have no games

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PS3 also has the best fanbase....
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#142 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah that's true. Though future proofing wouldn't hurt incase you go that route.=p Plus unlike most I game above 1080p.

mitu123

Yeah but usually when people future proof they think they will have it for years and then just buy a new better one even when the one they have isn't maxed out. But I know you are reaching limits with your 460s

That's why I want 2-3 of them.:P

:lol:

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#143 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

Of course PS3 has more shooters. It has more everything. 360 have no games

DeadMan1290
PS3 also has the best fanbase....

Indeed
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#144 ShadowMoses900
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You know from what I played the game seems to be very overrated by Hermits, combat is just consistin of rolling around a lot and so far the moral choices just consist of "do you kill him or do you kill the other guy". It's not very deep.

Still pretty good, I would give it around an 8, but it's not super amazing. Kinda funny how Lems always say "no one buys PS3 games" and yet they didhn't buy W2, how hilarious! Especially considering that God of War, UC, KZ, MGS4, Rachet and Clank, and LBP all sell just as much as Gears.

In fact aside from Halo and Gears, every 360 exclusive doesn't sell at all. So it's the Lems who don't buy their exclusives, probably because most 360 exclusives arn't worth a damn. No wonder MS dumped them and went to Kinect.

Oh well they will still have fun with Halo no doubt, they have to, they have no choice but to enjoy it.

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#145 Grawse
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Lems should be absolutely ashamed. MS finally throws them a bone and they still want more CoD.
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You know from what I played the game seems to be very overrated by Hermits, combat is just consistin of rolling around a lot and so far the moral choices just consist of "do you kill him or do you kill the other guy". It's not very deep.

Still pretty good, I would give it around an 8, but it's not super amazing. Kinda funny how Lems always say "no one buys PS3 games" and yet they didhn't buy W2, how hilarious! Especially considering that God of War, UC, KZ, MGS4, Rachet and Clank, and LBP all sell just as much as Gears.

In fact aside from Halo and Gears, every 360 exclusive doesn't sell at all. So it's the Lems who don't buy their exclusives, probably because most 360 exclusives arn't worth a damn. No wonder MS dumped them and went to Kinect.

Oh well they will still have fun with Halo no doubt, they have to, they have no choice but to enjoy it.

ShadowMoses900

Trust me I suck at the game and I get destroyed if I roll around a lot because in some places enemies try to block me.And those decisions near the end of act 1 are pretty big.

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You know from what I played the game seems to be very overrated by Hermits, combat is just consistin of rolling around a lot and so far the moral choices just consist of "do you kill him or do you kill the other guy". It's not very deep.

ShadowMoses900


You should try and play it.

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#148 sonic1564
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You know from what I played the game seems to be very overrated by Hermits, combat is just consistin of rolling around a lot and so far the moral choices just consist of "do you kill him or do you kill the other guy". It's not very deep.

Still pretty good, I would give it around an 8, but it's not super amazing. Kinda funny how Lems always say "no one buys PS3 games" and yet they didhn't buy W2, how hilarious! Especially considering that God of War, UC, KZ, MGS4, Rachet and Clank, and LBP all sell just as much as Gears.

In fact aside from Halo and Gears, every 360 exclusive doesn't sell at all. So it's the Lems who don't buy their exclusives, probably because most 360 exclusives arn't worth a damn. No wonder MS dumped them and went to Kinect.

Oh well they will still have fun with Halo no doubt, they have to, they have no choice but to enjoy it.

ShadowMoses900

I'm guessing sales only matter when it'll suit you.

I'm guessing you're also jelly that you can't play the game.

jello form of jelly

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#149 ShadowMoses900
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You know from what I played the game seems to be very overrated by Hermits, combat is just consistin of rolling around a lot and so far the moral choices just consist of "do you kill him or do you kill the other guy". It's not very deep.

Still pretty good, I would give it around an 8, but it's not super amazing. Kinda funny how Lems always say "no one buys PS3 games" and yet they didhn't buy W2, how hilarious! Especially considering that God of War, UC, KZ, MGS4, Rachet and Clank, and LBP all sell just as much as Gears.

In fact aside from Halo and Gears, every 360 exclusive doesn't sell at all. So it's the Lems who don't buy their exclusives, probably because most 360 exclusives arn't worth a damn. No wonder MS dumped them and went to Kinect.

Oh well they will still have fun with Halo no doubt, they have to, they have no choice but to enjoy it.

super600

Trust me I suck at the game and I get destroyed if I roll around a lot because in some places enemies try to block me.And those decisions near the end of act 1 are pretty big.

I'm not very far in it, I play it at my friends house. It's good but I was expecting a lot more based off of how Hermits hype it. There is no way in hell it's better than Skyrim though, I know they are nothing alike but still, as far as RPG's go Skyrim is the better one.

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#150 call_of_duty_10
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[QUOTE="super600"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

You know from what I played the game seems to be very overrated by Hermits, combat is just consistin of rolling around a lot and so far the moral choices just consist of "do you kill him or do you kill the other guy". It's not very deep.

Still pretty good, I would give it around an 8, but it's not super amazing. Kinda funny how Lems always say "no one buys PS3 games" and yet they didhn't buy W2, how hilarious! Especially considering that God of War, UC, KZ, MGS4, Rachet and Clank, and LBP all sell just as much as Gears.

In fact aside from Halo and Gears, every 360 exclusive doesn't sell at all. So it's the Lems who don't buy their exclusives, probably because most 360 exclusives arn't worth a damn. No wonder MS dumped them and went to Kinect.

Oh well they will still have fun with Halo no doubt, they have to, they have no choice but to enjoy it.

ShadowMoses900

Trust me I suck at the game and I get destroyed if I roll around a lot because in some places enemies try to block me.And those decisions near the end of act 1 are pretty big.

There is no way in hell it's better than Skyrim though, I know they are nothing alike but still, as far as RPG's go Skyrim is the better one.

lol