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Sorry, but Rage got all the praise and awards for visuals in E3, not ... Withcer 2, that its shading looks really behind

Experts say Rage >>>>>>>>>>>> Witcher 2

Crysis 2 too, noone has awarded Withcer 2 visuals yet

SacredMG

also: http://gaming.icrontic.com/files/2010/05/girl.jpg

That looks liike something in Doom 3 :|

I do agree there's a pretty big difference between a 220 GT and an 8800 (even an 8800 GS). But anyway,no one could say that the system requirements for The Witcher 2 are in any way high.

If a PC gamer doesn't have at least an 8800 series card in the year 2011, then they're likely either console gamers or not in the game's target audience. A console version would, like you said, almost certainly have compromises but I don't think that will stop them. The worst case scenario is another Metro 2033-like port.

Waiting until next generation consoles would be risky. We have no idea when the next generation will arrive, the regular patterns of old have been disrupted by Move, Kinect and the rise of casual gaming. The Metro 2034 developers believe that the next generation of consoles is more than 3 years away. [link] If true, The Witcher 2 will definitely be old hat.

Even Half-Life was originally slated for a 2000 release on the Dreamcast (a system which was released in 1998, the same year the PC game came out).

SakusEnvoy

I wouldn't say the requirements are high but when you compre them to a console they are more than 3 times as high in the GPU department.

Also the Dream Cast came out in 1998 and could of received the port of Half Life but it's not like we are having a next gen console come out in 2011.

I used that comparison because they PS1 came out in 1994. Half Life 1 would not have handled well on the PS1 so it was the better choice to port it to the next gen console.

And that was three years later.

I think next gen consoles will be out around late 2012 or early 2013. Certain developers receive dev kits much much earlier so their games will be released when the console comes out.

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Minimum is 8800GT?

This means that this game is either very unoptimised or the new graphics king.I mean,you can play crysis on high with a single 8800GT,but this will run on lowest.

Filthybastrd

A 8800GT surely can't play Crysis very well on high at 1680*1050 or 1920*1080 and I expect you meant without any AA.

It's a very fair system requirement all things considered IMO.

Actually my 8800gt can play Crysis fine at high and 1680x1050 res but of course without AA.

And by fine I mean around 30fps or more.

Sorry, but Rage got all the praise and awards for visuals in E3, not ... Withcer 2, that its shading looks really behind

Experts say Rage >>>>>>>>>>>> Witcher 2

Crysis 2 too, noone has awarded Withcer 2 visuals yet

SacredMG

The Best of E3 2010

Best Graphics

I'm still waiting to play the first game.

I'm still waiting to play the first game.

foxhound_fox

I'm sure the game will be technically fantastic. But I'm worried about the gameplay. First it's this footage from E3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e40kxWa0QCw&feature=related . The combat looks absolutely terrible. Assassin's creed at its worst. The rolling is silly and enemies seems to hit hero constantly in the back with no hits registering. It also looks repetetive (same attacks over and over) and overall brain dead. The mission seems very dull, linear and unimaginative. You follow a predetermined route with groups of enemies spawning along the way. Enemies doesn't seem to attack the people u are protecting, even when they are standing right next to them.

Secondly it's this boss battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ravxVjnOoRM. Looks cool, but gameplay wise it's a cliché. The boss has a couple of attacks u avoid by rolling and then u run forward to attack his tentacles at some clearly marked weak spots. At the end there are a some quick time events.

Of course the game could still be fantastic and obviously I hope it will be. Combat is certainly not everything, especially not in a RPG. Let's just say I'm not ready to hype this game yet :(.

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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"]

Minimum is 8800GT?

This means that this game is either very unoptimised or the new graphics king.I mean,you can play crysis on high with a single 8800GT,but this will run on lowest.

Hakkai007

A 8800GT surely can't play Crysis very well on high at 1680*1050 or 1920*1080 and I expect you meant without any AA.

It's a very fair system requirement all things considered IMO.

Actually my 8800gt can play Crysis fine at high and 1680x1050 res but of course without AA.

And by fine I mean around 30fps or more.

I believe you of course. Taking the same game at 1920*1080, very high, 16xAA and a few mods still bring dual 460's to "just" 50 fps.

I'm pretty sure Witcher 2 will play similarly at that kind of visual fidelity. In any case, recommending an 8800gt for a 2011 game does'nt seem steep at all to me. Minimum requirements for Crysis was a 6800gt and that was in 07 where the average gaming resolution was lower than it is now.

I'm sure the game will be technically fantastic. But I'm worried about the gameplay. First it's this footage from E3: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e40kxWa0QCw&feature=related . The combat looks absolutely terrible. Assassin's creed at its worst. The rolling is silly and enemies seems to hit hero constantly in the back with no hits registering. It also looks repetetive (same attacks over and over) and overall brain dead. The mission seems very dull, linear and unimaginative. You follow a predetermined route with groups of enemies spawning along the way. Enemies doesn't seem to attack the people u are protecting, even when they are standing right next to them.

Secondly it's this boss battle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ravxVjnOoRM. Looks cool, but gameplay wise it's a cliché. The boss has a couple of attacks u avoid by rolling and then u run forward to attack his tentacles at some clearly marked weak spots. At the end there are a some quick time events.

Of course the game could still be fantastic and obviously I hope it will be. Combat is certainly not everything, especially not in a RPG. Let's just say I'm not ready to hype this game yet :(.

Sushiglutton

Both videos You found are a bit older, and from a unfinished build, and Geralt was low level.

These are more recent:

http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/thewitcher2/video/6274563/the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings-demo-one-approach?nonRedirectElement=1

http://au.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/thewitcher2/video/6274562/the-witcher-2-assassins-of-kings-demo-alternate-strategy?tag=related_video%3Btitle%3B4

Witcher combat **** are based on the descriptions of Witcher`s, in the books of A. Sapkowski.

The trials and mutations of Witchers are turning Witchers in some sort super Humans.

Batman without flying wouldn`t be the same.:)

Mostly the Witcher combat evolves around pirrouette- combos in the books.

That alone created lots of confusion about the combat in the first Witcher. The combat was mostly disliked in the first game, and lots of people complained about it, TW2 gives options now to depend on spells, alchemy, or swordfight, and is still Witcher like but with more variation.

Hope this helps.

Minimum is 8800GT?

This means that this game is either very unoptimised or the new graphics king.I mean,you can play crysis on high with a single 8800GT,but this will run on lowest.

call_of_duty_10

That's it for requirements? I should run this fine seeing how I have a AMD Phenom 9600(2.3 ghz quad core), Radeon 4850 and 3.25GB RAM, though I'm upgrading within a few months.

Just bring it to consle if you want it to sell.johny300

And who made you the go-to gaming analyst ? :roll:

The 8800GT is now a minimum requirement? :( I'm just a step above the 8800GT.

Is it imperative to play the first? Or would it be okay to jump into the second? Is the first worth it?musicalmac

Is it imperative to play the first? Or would it be okay to jump into the second? Is the first worth it?musicalmac

It is not a imperative.

You can jump in the second but you will not have a import save.

The first game has 3 endings and there are choices that are made during the game that you get to see in the next chapter for example, or that TW2 will reflect on.

The first one is worth it if you like RPG`s, and are willing to learn about the combat and alchemy system, if you like fast paced beginnings where a game brings you directly to lots of action, you might hate the first chapter instantly.

So not knowing your preferences, I loved the first one, but I like RPG`s in general.

Just bring it to consle if you want it to sell.johny300

Console versions after PC have been confirmed already actually

Wow times have changed where when I see and 8800 as the lowest card I'm like "Oh sweet, that's low requirements".

Wow times have changed where when I see and 8800 as the lowest card I'm like "Oh sweet, that's low requirements".

Wasdie

I'm probably gonna need a new processor to max this game out :?

8800GT is still a very capable card works great if your res is 1680x1050. Its what my bro uses in his PC, and I'm still impressed by the game he can run on it.

That's it for requirements? I should run this fine seeing how I have a AMD Phenom 9600(2.3 ghz quad core), Radeon 4850 and 3.25GB RAM, though I'm upgrading within a few months.

mitu123

A 4850 is only slightly better than an 8800gt.

So you are slightly above the minimum.

It is not a imperative.

You can jump in the second but you will not have a import save.

The first game has 3 endings and there are choices that are made during the game that you get to see in the next chapter for example, or that TW2 will reflect on.

The first one is worth it if you like RPG`s, and are willing to learn about the combat and alchemy system, if you like fast paced beginnings where a game brings you directly to lots of action, you might hate the first chapter instantly.

So not knowing your preferences, I loved the first one, but I like RPG`s in general.

Dantus12

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That's it for requirements? I should run this fine seeing how I have a AMD Phenom 9600(2.3 ghz quad core), Radeon 4850 and 3.25GB RAM, though I'm upgrading within a few months.

Hakkai007

A 4850 is only slightly better than an 8800gt.

So you are slightly above the minimum.

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's it for requirements? I should run this fine seeing how I have a AMD Phenom 9600(2.3 ghz quad core), Radeon 4850 and 3.25GB RAM, though I'm upgrading within a few months.

Hakkai007

A 4850 is only slightly better than an 8800gt.

So you are slightly above the minimum.

Damn, must upgrade, had this baby for years too. I have turned into more of an ATi fan though I started with nvidia, so I should probably just get a 5850 to be safe.

mitu123

Well if your budget is around that then go with a 6870 instead.

And yah this generation has been quite good with older cards running games at relatively high settings.

I remember trying to run games like Doom 3 on my Geforce 2 Ultra.

It ran fine on low settings which was surprising but I was happy to upgrade to a 6800gt by then.

I remember seeing a nice difference in some of the new tech that the card had back in 2000 and it ran well using it.

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Seems like much more of an improvement compared to what we get today with video cards.

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Can't wait to run this on my Desktop.:)

I really wish companies would do a better job of standardizing what minimum specs actually mean. Like including a reference gaming resolution and AA/AF settings. I have a feeling the 8800 GT will probably handle this game like butter as long as it's running at a relatively low resolution like 1440x900.

SakusEnvoy

I wish they would do that too.

But I doubt an 8800gt will handle the game like butter unless the settings are lower.

the requirements are fine, 8800gt is a very good card. However if these are the min requirements I don't see how consoles will be able to handle this game, unless they dumb down the graphics by a large amount, and I mean large. An 8800gt in the real world is at least 2.5x stronger than the consoles, and sometimes even 4x. and they state the 8800gt as minimum. PS. 8800GT = best card ever, had it for about 3 years and it ran all games on atleast high settings, some even on max.muscleserge

I have had my 8800gt since 2007 and it is still kicking butt.

I OC that thing when I need it on some games like Metro 2033 and can run it on high/very high depending if I want directx 10 or 9 and certain areas.

It is still a good card especially for it's age.

Over 3 years old now.

I am upgrading early next year for games like Shogun 2, The Witcher 2 and Crysis 2. I will probably go for a GTX560 or GTX 570.

Hopefully the price is lower after 3-4 months.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's it for requirements? I should run this fine seeing how I have a AMD Phenom 9600(2.3 ghz quad core), Radeon 4850 and 3.25GB RAM, though I'm upgrading within a few months.

SakusEnvoy

A 4850 is only slightly better than an 8800gt.

So you are slightly above the minimum.

This. According to the official forum the requirements will be lower because the game will be even more optimized. These spec are posted on Steam, and people think that these are the recomended , not the minimum system requirements.

There is still time for optimization till release.

Times have changed and tools have evolved, lots of characters are less polygon heavy than they were 2 years ago, and better mapping techniques are allowing more detail. It might happen that TW2 will be proportionaly less demanding than TW that was running on ol` Aurora engine.

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Even if it does come to consoles, it will be about two-three years from now.

ChubbyGuy40

I don't think current consoles can handle it. I can definitely see the next gen, but this one is iffy. Its like JC2, yeah it was on consoles but PC had the better version.

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2.2gh duel core cpu

1gig XP 2gig Vista/7

8800 512mb

engine is designed to work multiplatform

link

I must say this is my most hyped game after Zelda next year (guessing the release date)

GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"]

[QUOTE="Fried_Shrimp"]

2.2gh duel core cpu

1gig XP 2gig Vista/7

8800 512mb

engine is designed to work multiplatform

link

I must say this is my most hyped game after Zelda next year (guessing the release date)

navyguy21

Why does Gamestop list games for like 12/31/2011? They don't have a set date if it does come to consoles. GS just hasn't updated it yet.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] Even if it does come to consoles, it will be about two-three years from now.

ChubbyGuy40

Why does Gamestop list games for like 12/31/2011? They don't have a set date if it does come to consoles. GS just hasn't updated it yet.

Nooo, please dont say that :(

Just bring it to consle if you want it to sell.johny300

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[QUOTE="navyguy21"] Why is it listed as Q1 2011 for consoles then? :(navyguy21

Why does Gamestop list games for like 12/31/2011? They don't have a set date if it does come to consoles. GS just hasn't updated it yet.

Nooo, please dont say that :(

They havent even started making it for consoles yet (If they even do) so you wont see any information till at least christmas 2011. They still can turn around and say "Nope too hard, not happening" Also they could lose more money then they make doing this.

[QUOTE="johny300"]Just bring it to consle if you want it to sell.Guppy507

Its this sort of mentality that got it a ton of sales, so it did not need to come to consoles.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's it for requirements? I should run this fine seeing how I have a AMD Phenom 9600(2.3 ghz quad core), Radeon 4850 and 3.25GB RAM, though I'm upgrading within a few months.

mitu123

A 4850 is only slightly better than an 8800gt.

So you are slightly above the minimum.

I would recommend a GeForce GTX 570. I dont have the card myself, but from what I've read its slighly better than a GTX 480. And it consumes less power so it produces less heat, and the card it self it a lot quieter than the GTX 4XX line. It RP for the card is $350. Another good card would be the AMD 6870.

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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

That's it for requirements? I should run this fine seeing how I have a AMD Phenom 9600(2.3 ghz quad core), Radeon 4850 and 3.25GB RAM, though I'm upgrading within a few months.

mitu123

A 4850 is only slightly better than an 8800gt.

So you are slightly above the minimum.

This. According to the official forum the requirements will be lower because the game will be even more optimized. These spec are posted on Steam, and people think that these are the recomended , not the minimum system requirements.

There is still time for optimization till release.

Times have changed and tools have evolved, lots of characters are less polygon heavy than they were 2 years ago, and better mapping techniques are allowing more detail. It might happen that TW2 will be proportionaly less demanding than TW that was running on ol` Aurora engine.

Dantus12

Actually a developer stated that at minimum the game could run on an 8800gt.

[QUOTE="Dantus12"]

This. According to the official forum the requirements will be lower because the game will be even more optimized. These spec are posted on Steam, and people think that these are the recomended , not the minimum system requirements.

There is still time for optimization till release.

Times have changed and tools have evolved, lots of characters are less polygon heavy than they were 2 years ago, and better mapping techniques are allowing more detail. It might happen that TW2 will be proportionaly less demanding than TW that was running on ol` Aurora engine.

Hakkai007

Actually a developer stated that at minimum the game could run on an 8800gt.

"When making it, we made certain not to cut ourselves off from the ability to make a game for current generation consoles at any point."

"One (of the goals in mind) was to create technology that would allow us to make a game that doesn't require futuristic hardware to run."

So 3 years after release, the mid-range 8800 GT can still play every major PC game out there!

SakusEnvoy