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#1 CanYouDiglt
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]To play devil's advocate here, didn't Sony state that Facebook will play a big part in the PS4?Douevenlift_bro

To upload game footage, No?

Youy even have two different names that are displayed for the PS4 your real name used on social media sites and a gamertag. Sony is going the social media way full speed ahead.

 

This is from their new UI.

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#2 I_can_haz
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:lol: @ lems defending M$ and Kinect. The 720 will be a piece of $hit if the rumors are true.

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I'm sorry but is loosingENDS a cow now?

PhazonBlazer

A cowsheep probably, because i like 3DS a huge lot too

I go where games are, MS has nothing left for me, at least until they can prove otherwise

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I think the 720 will be very profitable at launch. Let's not forget they'll have some multiplats aswell and social gaming functions such as Facebook and Skype. My point is, the 720 will have a variety of experiences to offer for the non gamer especially as well as the gamer.

 

I think as long as Microsoft is profitable their fanbase will remain loyal despite the lack of core titles.

 

Is this a good strategy for MS? Discuss.

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#5 clyde46
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To play devil's advocate here, didn't Sony state that Facebook will play a big part in the PS4?
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#6 Douevenlift_bro
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To play devil's advocate here, didn't Sony state that Facebook will play a big part in the PS4?clyde46
To upload game footage, No?

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zombies

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Need to know more about the launch titles but Microsoft and Sony will be neck and neck out of the gate. Probably will not be a clear winner for a while.

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zombies

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A killer app I forgot to add !

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#10 StrongBlackVine
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those exclusives so far are balls. Too much Kinect focus.

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#11 JamDev
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Gamers need to be the absolute priority when you're selling a games console, extra functionality is fine, but make it the focus and you lose your core market.
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#12 Michael0134567
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Love me some Kinect.

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#13 epicgameplayer
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Hold up!.......wait a minute......... So let me get this straight, Not only are there a bunch of meh Kinect titles coming on launch, But now there is ANOTHER Forza, after a Forza game just came out like a year ago? LOL oh man.....you really couldn't have made up something more pathetic and more embaressing! What a pathetic launch line up! M$ has become one big running joke! Whats next?Halo kinect party game as a launch title for the 720 kinect box too?
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#14 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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MS will have to do a LOT more in order to beat Sony right out of the gate. The ball is definitely very much in Sony's court right now and they have so far nailed what gamers seem to want for next gen. 

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I think the 720 will be very profitable at launch. Let's not forget they'll have some multiplats aswell and social gaming functions such as Facebook and Skype. My point is, the 720 will have a variety of experiences to offer for the non gamer especially as well as the gamer.

 

I think as long as Microsoft is profitable their fanbase will remain loyal despite the lack of core titles.

 

Is this a good strategy for MS? Discuss.

Douevenlift_bro

What is there for an RPG gamer ?

PS4 already has Level 5 RPG, Deep Down, possibly Demons Souls 2, Dark SOuls 2 (there is no way they will not have a PS4 version later), Diablo 3, Witcher 3, FF15 Agnes, possibly FF13vs etc etc

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#16 StrongBlackVine
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Love me some Kinect.

Michael0134567

You are stupid though.

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#17 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Love me some Kinect.

StrongBlackVine

You are stupid though.

Except you're the one that's stupid. Dumbass.

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#18 -Patrick_92-
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I do think MS will do very well with their next Xbox, but so far it doesn't look like something I'd be interested in (based on the rumors of course). 

 

 

 

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#19 blackace
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To play devil's advocate here, didn't Sony state that Facebook will play a big part in the PS4?clyde46
The PS4 with have a lot of social media app on it. Facebook is just the beginning. Why do you think they are changing their online services? They have like 3 or 4 tiers when the PS4 launches. I can't wait to see what they are and how much they will cost. Sony wants to make some serious money this next gen and their fans are going to be paying I'm sure.
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Love me some Kinect.

Michael0134567

You are stupid though.

Except you're the one that's stupid. Dumbass.

He;s got ya there black vine

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#21 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Love me some Kinect.

Michael0134567

You are stupid though.

Except you're the one that's stupid. Dumbass.

Sorry didn't mean to make you cry.

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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

You are stupid though.

StrongBlackVine

Except you're the one that's stupid. Dumbass.

Sorry didn't mean to make you cry.

Oh snap! take his lunch money while youre at it

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#23 Michael0134567
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

You are stupid though.

StrongBlackVine

Except you're the one that's stupid. Dumbass.

Sorry didn't mean to make you cry.

No crying here. Are you done acting like a fool?

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#24 epicgameplayer
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Also, i dont care how profitable M$ may or may not be, As a gamer, the kinect box 720's launch line up doesnt interest me in the least bit! All the more reason why im staying far far and away from the Kinect box 720 lol And why you should too! The PS4 is all i will need! Im only focusing on the PS4! If you really care about core gaming then you need to support Sony too! Sony is the only one who supports core gamers so send the right message back At this point, M$ doesnt even exist to me! Thank you Sony, for not only delivering amazing consoles and amazing games, but thank you for NOT LETTING M$ take over gaming. M$ would burn gaming into the ground Its like Microsoft doesnt know how to do anything else BUT FAIL FU MicroHACKS! I will never buy one of your sh!tty anti consumer Microsoft products again!
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#25 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Except you're the one that's stupid. Dumbass.

Michael0134567

Sorry didn't mean to make you cry.

No crying here. Are you done acting like a fool?

We're good.

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#26 blackace
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Need to know more about the launch titles but Microsoft and Sony will be neck and neck out of the gate. Probably will not be a clear winner for a while.

timbers_WSU
It'll be close until Japan starts to embrace the PS4, which won't happen immediately if the price is $500+. Once the PS4 price drops within Japan gamers grasp, the PS4 will probably start to pull away. It's still going to depend on games and whether or not Sony starts to actually make some money off the PS platform as well as their electronics divisions. XBox 720 won't do much unless Microsoft has a serious strategy plan for that market and has signed on some Japanese developers to make some exclusive JRPG titles for it. The reason the XBox 360 sold 1.6 million XBox 360's in Japan was because off all the initial JRPG that was released on it for the first 2 years.
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#27 Merex760
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Love me some Kinect.

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Said Michael0134567, and no one else.
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#28 RR360DD
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Lets look at whats confirmed for launch. Killzone, Infamous, Drive Club, some weird MM game, Knack .. None of them are heavy hitters. None of them are system sellers. What will sell the PS4 is the Call of Duty this holiday. The Battlefield 4. Assassins Creed 4. Those franchises dwarf anything Sony has announced.

And with the 720 (despite us not know anything about the launch lineup) I'm guessing the situation will be exactly the same.

Cows just have to deal with the fact that mutliplats are a lot more important than exclusives (Unless you're Halo or Gran Turismo). What will sell these console this holiday are the features they offer and the price.

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Gamers need to be the absolute priority when you're selling a games console, extra functionality is fine, but make it the focus and you lose your core market.JamDev
Gamers aren't enough. From Microsoft's P.O.V anyway.

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#30 PhazonBlazer
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I'm sorry but is loosingENDS a cow now?

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#31 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I'm sorry but is loosingENDS a cow now?

PhazonBlazer

Just still a moron

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#32 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"]To play devil's advocate here, didn't Sony state that Facebook will play a big part in the PS4?CanYouDiglt

To upload game footage, No?

Youy even have two different names that are displayed for the PS4 your real name used on social media sites and a gamertag. Sony is going the social media way full speed ahead.

 

This is from their new UI.

All I see is games though...and real games. No Kinect, skype, ads etc

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#33 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]To upload game footage, No?

Douevenlift_bro

Youy even have two different names that are displayed for the PS4 your real name used on social media sites and a gamertag. Sony is going the social media way full speed ahead.

 

This is from their new UI.

All I see is games though...and real games. No Kinect, skype, ads etc

Uhh are you blind? According to cows there are a lot of ads there.

Skype is a bad thing? Its gonna improve voice chat a lot on the new Xbox, I fail to see how thats a bad thing.

And The PS4 does have its own Kinect / Move.

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#34 OldSnakePS3
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i think theres already millions upon millions of casuals who already got one gimmick collecting dust and prolly wont want more of the same 

i could be wrong im not a casual tho

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#35 Douevenlift_bro
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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]Youy even have two different names that are displayed for the PS4 your real name used on social media sites and a gamertag. Sony is going the social media way full speed ahead.

 

This is from their new UI.

RR360DD

All I see is games though...and real games. No Kinect, skype, ads etc

Uhh are you blind? According to cows there are a lot of ads there.

Skype is a bad thing? Its gonna improve voice chat a lot on the new Xbox, I fail to see how thats a bad thing.

And The PS4 does have its own Kinect / Move.

I must be blind.. All I see is games though.

 

Didnt xbox already have voice chat? lol

 

Move is nowhere as important is Kinect. Kinect is your core my friend.

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#36 RR360DD
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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]

[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]All I see is games though...and real games. No Kinect, skype, ads etc

Douevenlift_bro

Uhh are you blind? According to cows there are a lot of ads there.

Skype is a bad thing? Its gonna improve voice chat a lot on the new Xbox, I fail to see how thats a bad thing.

And The PS4 does have its own Kinect / Move.

I must be blind.. All I see is games though.

 

Didnt xbox already have voice chat? lol

 

Move is nowhere as important is Kinect. Kinect is your core my friend.

Go look through all the UI screens released so far. There are links to games, videos etc. I personally wouldn't call them ads but cows have this entire gen when bashing the 360 so its time they drown in their own medicine.

Yeah it did but nowhere near the quality of skype. Voice chat will improve a lot thanks to it.

(A variation of) Move is being incorporated into every PS4 controller, and its pretty likely that Sonys own Kinect / camera bar will ship with every console. Its more important than you think.

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#37 NathanDrakeSwag
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Another Forza and Kinect shovelware. Sounds like lems will love it.

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#38 Heil68
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I have no reason to get a launch console from MS then. Thank you MS.
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#39 casharmy
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To play devil's advocate here, didn't Sony state that Facebook will play a big part in the PS4?clyde46

lol no they didn't.  

online social features =/= Facebook troll.  Sony was outling their *ONLINE* and how it will be an overall better social network.  They never specifically hyped facebook as :roll: "a big part in the PS4"

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#40 NoodleFighter
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I'm sorry but is loosingENDS a cow now?

PhazonBlazer

he's just anti PC now things have gotten so bad he has to hide behind other platforms to even challenge pc gaming in anyway

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#41 Goyoshi12
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[QUOTE="Michael0134567"]

Love me some Kinect.

Merex760

Said Michael0134567, and no one else.

Love me some Kinect.

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#42 deactivated-57d8401f17c55
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I would actually be interested in Ryse if it didn't use the kinect.

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#43 ReadingRainbow4
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The best present MS can give me at this point, and the only thing I'm expecting.

Are those hilarious e3 gifs, holy crap bring it on ms! let's get dem Lol's rolling.

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#44 jsmoke03
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[QUOTE="PhazonBlazer"]

I'm sorry but is loosingENDS a cow now?

loosingENDS

A cowsheep probably, because i like 3DS a huge lot too

I go where games are, MS has nothing left for me, at least until they can prove otherwise

i think most lems are like that...they go where the games are....so not a true fanboy
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I really didn't think they could sink so low. :lol: Oh well, Lems still have their once AAAE franchise to fiddle around with. :)

#JUMPOUT

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#46 campzor
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firstly, social features like facebook will help a system? oh my :lol: also, ps4 has those features.
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#47 RR360DD
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I really didn't think they could sink so low. :lol: Oh well, Lems still have their once AAAE franchise to fiddle around with. :)

#JUMPOUT

sanim02
What do cows have because neither Infamous or Killzone is an AAAE franchise :lol: And don't get me started on how average Drive Club looks
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#48 Link3301
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[QUOTE="Douevenlift_bro"]

I think the 720 will be very profitable at launch. Let's not forget they'll have some multiplats aswell and social gaming functions such as Facebook and Skype. My point is, the 720 will have a variety of experiences to offer for the non gamer especially as well as the gamer.

 

I think as long as Microsoft is profitable their fanbase will remain loyal despite the lack of core titles.

 

Is this a good strategy for MS? Discuss.

loosingENDS

What is there for an RPG gamer ?

PS4 already has Level 5 RPG, Deep Down, possibly Demons Souls 2, Dark SOuls 2 (there is no way they will not have a PS4 version later), Diablo 3, Witcher 3, FF15 Agnes, possibly FF13vs etc etc

You changing sides.

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#49 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

I really didn't think they could sink so low. :lol: Oh well, Lems still have their once AAAE franchise to fiddle around with. :)

#JUMPOUT

RR360DD

What do cows have because neither Infamous or Killzone is an AAAE franchise :lol: And don't get me started on how average Drive Club looks

inFAMOUS is better than all that trash announced for Xbox so far.

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#50 Karpetburnz
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What the hell, The next "core" exclusive for the nextXbox is gonna be Kinect focused lmao, what a joke, and that Zombie game will probably be a generic CoD rip-off.