**Witness GeoW Being Dethrone**

Thompsonwhore

pedophilia? o.O;

Gears is beautiful. Don't people think that is's a little bit of a conincidence that most/all of the Gears graphics haters don't own a 360? The most respectable thing IMO about Gears is that it hit it's target...they didn't show off a bunch of fake footage and than try and catch up later. What they showed they achieved.

BTW, maybe it was just a bad video, but the video that the TC posted doesn't look as good as gears. The player models in GeOW were amazing, and the atmosphere was intense. This was just a video of a small character jumping on a huge, nicely textured wall.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]So no games from the 360 deserve that? how about mass effect? no??? How about COD4 for both systems..no? You come back when YOU done YOUR homework-Ninja_Dog-

Its all realitive really.

GoeW is more confined allowing for more detail.

Mass Effect looks sweet, its about on par. COD4 looks ok too, but it has much bigger enviroments , so of course it will beless detailed.

Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Killzone, and Ratchet and Clank are all larger, with much larger draw distances, more units on screen (in the case of Ratchet and Heavenly, much more) and still continue to be more detailed than Gears of War, which is why I consider them to be so remarkable.

And that's also why I consider Resistance to look at least equivalent to Gears of War. It has MUCH greater draw distances and better detail at a distance than Gears of War, as well as MANY more units onscreen.

Gears is beautiful. Don't people think that is's a little bit of a conincidence that most/all of the Gears graphics haters don't own a 360? The most respectable thing IMO about Gears is that it hit it's target...they didn't show off a bunch of fake footage and than try and catch up later. What they showed they achieved.

BTW, maybe it was just a bad video, but the video that the TC posted doesn't look as good as gears. The player models in GeOW were amazing, and the atmosphere was intense. This was just a video of a small character jumping on a huge, nicely textured wall.

bezaire2005

Wrong. The actual, physical game does not match the BS propaganda renders I have in my Game Informer magazine.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"][QUOTE="Drukter"]Am I the only one who thinks this doesnt look THAT good at all. I mean cmon man.jujutheking

Killzone is better in the public eye.IGN,joystick etc.. al say it looks better.

NUH UH GTHO! Seriously, geez, Gears got a 9.6, GAME OVER MAN!

KZ1 wasnt anything special, didnt raise the bar, and was way overhyped. KZ2 is falling down that path, and looks like an ordinary FPs for the PS3 bringing nothing real new to the table. Check out bioshock, o and gears haahousy2008

How about UT3 and Haze. How do they measure up? Double standards ftw.

*snip*

Redfingers

Hey man, why do you hate the 360? How do you make sense of it in that head of yours? It's just a little inanimate plastic box which happens to play some very fun video games. Aren't you ever embarrassed when you consider how much time you waste and effort you put into letting other anonymous forum handles know how much you despise a brand name?

I like to ask that from time to time to any of the extreme fanboys (on all sides,) and I've yet to get anything resembling a coherent answer.

So, uh, you keep hating a brand name for no reason at all (and in the process missing out on some truly spectacular games,) and I'll continue to own and love playing games on all ofthe systems. Why? Because why would I care about what system I'm playing a game on as long as the game is good?

In the future I'll enjoy MGS4, Mass Effect, and Prime 3.... and you'll be spedning time letting everyone here know how much you hate one or two of them despite the fact you won't play them. Does it make sense to you? If it's worth it to you it's cool with me, whatever.

[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22051.html

Yep I think we have a new king among console visuals, what do you guys think?

CrimsonBlade360

Call of Duty 4 is underwhelming and a straight comparison to Killzone 2 (which looks extremely similar) shows which game looks better (Killzone 2).

UT3 looks like a blast, the series alwayshas been, but I've always wanted a great single player in them, which they have never.

Haze doesnt interest me

[QUOTE="housy2008"]KZ1 wasnt anything special, didnt raise the bar, and was way overhyped. KZ2 is falling down that path, and looks like an ordinary FPs for the PS3 bringing nothing real new to the table. Check out bioshock, o and gears haaRedfingers

How about UT3 and Haze. How do they measure up? Double standards ftw.

UT3 is looking great. But thank god it's on every system. Haze on the other hand...KINDA looks shallow and boring. I want more info on it.

[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="Heil68"]So no games from the 360 deserve that? how about mass effect? no??? How about COD4 for both systems..no? You come back when YOU done YOUR homeworkRedfingers

Its all realitive really.

GoeW is more confined allowing for more detail.

Mass Effect looks sweet, its about on par. COD4 looks ok too, but it has much bigger enviroments , so of course it will beless detailed.

Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Killzone, and Ratchet and Clank are all larger, with much larger draw distances, more units on screen (in the case of Ratchet and Heavenly, much more) and still continue to be more detailed than Gears of War, which is why I consider them to be so remarkable.

And that's also why I consider Resistance to look at least equivalent to Gears of War. It has MUCH greater draw distances and better detail at a distance than Gears of War, as well as MANY more units onscreen.

[QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

NickG1215

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2 kz 1 by their own admission didnt live up to the hype and its biggest draw back was thehardware it was on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

Gears is beautiful. Don't people think that is's a little bit of a conincidence that most/all of the Gears graphics haters don't own a 360? The most respectable thing IMO about Gears is that it hit it's target...they didn't show off a bunch of fake footage and than try and catch up later. What they showed they achieved.

BTW, maybe it was just a bad video, but the video that the TC posted doesn't look as good as gears. The player models in GeOW were amazing, and the atmosphere was intense. This was just a video of a small character jumping on a huge, nicely textured wall.

Redfingers

Wrong. The actual, physical game does not match the BS propaganda renders I have in my Game Informer magazine.

proof?

[QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

Filonus

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2kz1 by their own admissiondidnt live up to the hype and its biggest drawback was thehardware itwas on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is not even close. Besides its rated Teen, meaning you won't be able to see the complexity of blood and guts being ripped into pieces like in Gears of War. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is Tomb Raider 2007.

[QUOTE="-Ninja_Dog-"][QUOTE="Heil68"]So no games from the 360 deserve that? how about mass effect? no??? How about COD4 for both systems..no? You come back when YOU done YOUR homeworkRedfingers

Its all realitive really.

GoeW is more confined allowing for more detail.

Mass Effect looks sweet, its about on par. COD4 looks ok too, but it has much bigger enviroments , so of course it will beless detailed.

Heavenly Sword, Uncharted, Killzone, and Ratchet and Clank are all larger, with much larger draw distances, more units on screen (in the case of Ratchet and Heavenly, much more) and still continue to be more detailed than Gears of War, which is why I consider them to be so remarkable.

And that's also why I consider Resistance to look at least equivalent to Gears of War. It has MUCH greater draw distances and better detail at a distance than Gears of War, as well as MANY more units onscreen.

ratchet and clank...no

ratchet and clank does not compare with gears graphically, but then i wouldn't want it to. ratchet games are supposed to be about cartoony graphics and having fun blowing stuff up.

then again you'll just ignore this and spew your draw distance crap for how many more posts

[QUOTE="-Sir-Poof-"]

[QUOTE="TEH_rankie"]Crysis?


Wouldn't a game have to be out to dethrone it as the graphics king, if GEoW is the graphical "king" at this point.DA_B0MB

Why o why does crysis always have to be mentioned among console games?

Crysis takes all the fun away from graphical arguments. It's pretty much always a fight for second best looking game... >_>.

absolutely true

[QUOTE="Filonus"][QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

akuma303x

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2kz1 by their own admissiondidnt live up to the hype and its biggest drawback was thehardware itwas on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

y'know ur right...how didnt i think of that before....cause obviously they wont give the public a chance to play it in a beta or demo or something to assess the flaws.

[QUOTE="Redfingers"] *snip*

Bill_McBlumpkin

Hey man, why do you hate the 360? How do you make sense of it in that head of yours? It's just a little inanimate plastic box which happens to play some very fun video games. Aren't you ever embarrassed when you consider how much time you waste and effort you put into letting other anonymous forum handles know how much you despise a brand name?

I like to ask that from time to time to any of the extreme fanboys (on all sides,) and I've yet to get anything resembling a coherent answer.

So, uh, you keep hating a brand name for no reason at all (and in the process missing out on some truly spectacular games,) and I'll continue to own and love playing games on all ofthe systems. Why? Because why would I care about what system I'm playing a game on as long as the game is good?

In the future I'll enjoy MGS4, Mass Effect, and Prime 3.... and you'll be spedning time letting everyone here know how much you hate one or two of them despite the fact you won't play them. Does it make sense to you? If it's worth it to you it's cool with me, whatever.

You still there?

[QUOTE="Redfingers"] *snip*

Bill_McBlumpkin

Hey man, why do you hate the 360? How do you make sense of it in that head of yours?It's just a little inanimate plastic box which happens to play some very fun video games.

I like to ask that from time to time to any of the extreme fanboys (on all sides,) and I've yet to get anything resembling a coherent answer.

So, uh, you keep hating a brand name for no reason at all (and in the process missing out on some truly spectacular games,) and I'll continue to own and love playing games on all ofthe systems. Why? Because why would I care about what system I'm playing a game on as long as the game is good?

I'm not a fanboy and you've never asked me that question until now so spare me the "everyone is so incoherent!" bullcrap.

Let me put this as succinctly as possible, given I've answered this question without being asked it before I've gotten fairly good at it.

I don't hate the Xbox 360, and in fact, I think it's a hugely viable platform, which is part of the reason why I have to sit here and fend off attacks on the Playstation 3 whenever I'm on this forum. Does that mean that I hate the Xbox 360? If that's the case, why am I always on the defensive? I never sit around and say "GEARS OF WAR IS CRAP, THE XBOX 360 IS CRAP, THE SOFTWARE IS CRAP, XBOX 360 FAILED," which is basically what I saw for, literally, months, on system wars about the Playstation 3. So I'm not exactly the most willing candidate for your little "fanboy questionnaire." Ask the people that were telling me that GT5 was going to suck because it *might* not have car damage at the time of release even though there was a very good explanation for it.

In fact, if I owned an Xbox 360, I know exactly what games I would buy, how I would accessorize it, what games I would play, and what games I would be looking forward to. Forza 2, Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, Mass Effect, Bioshock, UT3. Done, done, done.

But I consider the Playstation 3 an extremely viable platform and it drives me absolutely insane to see people sitting here, even after they have been owned into the dirt by at least 5 first party Sony titles, saying that Gears is still the de facto graphics standard. The irony is obvious--Gears of War is coming to PC and it will look infinitely better, and UT3 is coming exclusively to PC and PS3 this year and according to Mark Rein, it performs better on the PS3 than Gears did on the 360 a year ago. /endthread, seriously.

Anyway, congrats on your 360, but don't tell me I'm a fanboy, don't tell me my games suck, don't tell me I made a bad purchase, don't tell me that UT3 or Uncharted don't measure up to TEH GEARS, and we will get along just fine.

Still, there is something to be said as far as making the 360 a more viable format...this is the only thing that could make someone HATE a platform or a brand, and that's hardware failure. This is being fixed, and I was actually going to symbolically remove my avatar, but I couldn't figure out how to change it on the profile options page.

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I'm not a fanboy and you've never asked me that question untilRedfingers

You're right, I've never asked you - I've asked other fanboys.... abd their answers were as nonsensical as yours.

And "you're not a fanboy?!?!" Are you delusional? Anyone who has read your posts know you're one of the most stubborn fanboys. Hahaha, hate to break the news to you.

[QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

Filonus

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2 kz 1 by their own admission didnt live up to the hype and its biggest draw back was thehardware it was on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

its the truth like it or not. guerrilla has yet to prove themselves as game makers. if i come off as pessimistic then thats your opinion, i think of it as being realistic. sure kz2 looks amazing, but until the final copy has been played and reviewed i think it'd be better off being forgotten for the moment. games like uncharted and ratchet come from two great development studios that truly know their craft, these are the games that deserve hype, not kz2

y'know ur right...how didnt i think of that before....cause obviously they wont give the public a chance to play it in a beta or demo or something to assess the flaws.

Filonus

The reason for this is that it's a pre-pre-alpha according to Guerilla. Knowing that, why would you want to play it? I think it looks beautiful given the early stage in development, and that they were willing to show us the game is testament enough to how far along the game is even at this stage.

Additionally, not even Metal Gear Solid has been played yet, and even at E3 there was only a trailer (Kojima will play the game at an event in July 17th).

Plus, it has already confirmed that there will be a Beta, but how does one Beta test an alpha, much less a pre-pre-alpha?

Anyway, congrats on your 360, but don't tell me I'm a fanboy, don't tell me my games suck, don't tell me I made a bad purchase, don't tell me that UT3 or Uncharted don't measure up to TEH GEARS, and we will get along just fine.

Redfingers

Telling you that you've made a bad purchase with the PS3 would reflect poorly on me, don't you think (seeing as I own one and enjoy it)?

Anyway, I hate to break it to you, you have a blatant Sony lean. You're biased, you are a fanboy. I have read your posts.

Sorry man, it's true.

Trying to tell ANYONE here that you don't mindlessly bash the 360 is a blatant lie.

RedFingers ur gamerpicture is the 3 red lights on a 360, and you say you dont attack or hate the 360, self pwned housy2008

Didn't read my explanation, self-pwned.

[QUOTE="Redfingers"][

Anyway, congrats on your 360, but don't tell me I'm a fanboy, don't tell me my games suck, don't tell me I made a bad purchase, don't tell me that UT3 or Uncharted don't measure up to TEH GEARS, and we will get along just fine.

Bill_McBlumpkin

Telling you that you've made a bad purchase with the PS3 would reflect poorly on my, don't you think (seeing as I own one and enjoy it)?

Anyway, I hate to break it to you, you have a blatant Sony lean. You're biased, you are a fanboy. I have read your posts.

Sorry man, it's true.

I prefer the PC platform over the Playstation 3 platform, considered the Xbox 360, and considered the Wii (I even stood in line due to a rumor that it would be restocked that day...when it was completely untrue) before I purchased the Playstation 3.

Sorry man, but you're wrong. You painted me a certain way and it doesn't fit. I have over 3,000 posts, and I don't care what you've read, you still know nothing about my character or where I'm coming from.

The reason I'm so critical of Gears is because it's coming to PC and UT3 is PS3 and PC exclusive, which is an utter explosion of a rebuttal to the "GEARS 360 IS THE DE FACTO STANDARD!" statement.

In addition, a character assault is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank you for explaining to me in the most honest way possible that you cannot argue against me.

Um. Let's see.

Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword, Crysis, Motorstorm, Uncharted, Medieval Total War, Company of Heroes, and Killzone 2 pretty much destroy it as far as graphics (and I personally have done extensive video/screenshot comparisons and I believe that Resistance MORE than measures up). And UT3 is a no-brainer.

Ninja Gaiden has far better looking in-game character models, and runs at a higher resolution and framerate.

Redfingers

I've played Gears and Resistance, Gears blows Resistance out of the water. The only PS3 games that look like they MIGHT dethrone Gears are Uncharted and Killzone. Heavenly Sword deffinatly does not.

housy2008 wrote:RedFingers ur gamerpicture is the 3 red lights on a 360, and you say you dont attack or hate the 360, self pwned

Didn't read my explanation, self-pwned.

Actually i did, but everyone goes through denial. Just sit back, relax, and you'll be just fine

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]

Um. Let's see.

Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword, Crysis, Motorstorm, Uncharted, Medieval Total War, Company of Heroes, and Killzone 2 pretty much destroy it as far as graphics (and I personally have done extensive video/screenshot comparisons and I believe that Resistance MORE than measures up). And UT3 is a no-brainer.

Ninja Gaiden has far better looking in-game character models, and runs at a higher resolution and framerate.

Vylence

I've played Gears and Resistance, Gears blow Resistance out of the water. The only PS3 games that look light they MIGHT dethrone Gears are Uncharted and Killzone. Heavenly Sword deffinatly does not.

I've played Gears and Resistance, and I'm inclined to disagree, especially because I've got hundreds of images on my PS3 image viewer in 720p that lead me to believe otherwise.

Uncharted, Killzone, and Heavenly Sword have already "dethroned" Gears, and as if this was the task, given, again, UT3 and Gears PC have already dethroned 360 Gears.

[QUOTE="Filonus"][QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

NickG1215

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2 kz 1 by their own admission didnt live up to the hype and its biggest draw back was thehardware it was on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

its the truth like it or not. guerrilla has yet to prove themselves as game makers. if i come off as pessimistic then thats your opinion, i think of it as being realistic. sure kz2 looks amazing, but until the final copy has been played and reviewed i think it'd be better off being forgotten for the moment. games like uncharted and ratchet come from two great development studios that truly know their craft, these are the games that deserve hype, not kz2

no its not the truth its your opinion. Guerilla has been VASTLY augumented.what your saying IS pessimistic. Killzone 2 could flop but to compare its development to the first game which was plagued by development problems and weak hardware is very stupid. More and more videos are gonna be released up until release; i think today harrison said its gonna be at TGS and Leipzig. Reporters will probably have a chance to test it out and give us their opinions.

In addition no one on this board should have to wait for it to come out F&*K that. You could apply that to any damn game.Hell capcom had a fantastic track record. Onimusha 3 and 4 sucked.DMC3 sucked. Many people say that quake4 sucked.If they wanna hype it let em hype it. That's what these boards, mags and blogs on gaming are about.

Sorry man, but you're wrong. You painted me a certain way and it doesn't fit. I have over 3,000 posts, and I don't care what you've read, you still know nothing about my character or where I'm coming from.

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Redfingers

No, I don't know you at all. For all I know you could be the most reasonable man on planet Earth outside of these forums.

I read this forum quite a bit though, and as such I've read lots of your posts. The lion's share of your time here is spent needlessly bashing Microsoft and needlessly defending Sony. You can not deny this (you can -and maybe you will... but it would be idiocy.)

Don't you even realize that's what a fanboy is? Don't you realize the hardcore Microsoft fanboys would be saying the same things you're saying now ("I'm not a fanboy!!")?

housy2008 wrote:RedFingers ur gamerpicture is the 3 red lights on a 360, and you say you dont attack or hate the 360, self pwned

Didn't read my explanation, self-pwned.

Actually i did, but everyone goes through denial. Just sit back, relax, and you'll be just fine

housy2008

Um...I know this might sound redundant, but right back at you mate.

Saying that uncharted has already "Dethroned" Gears is very cowish of you RedFingers, omg how to say it "SELF PWNED" yet again

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]

Sorry man, but you're wrong. You painted me a certain way and it doesn't fit. I have over 3,000 posts, and I don't care what you've read, you still know nothing about my character or where I'm coming from.

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Bill_McBlumpkin

No, I don't know you at all. For all I know you could be the most reasonable man on planet Eart outside of these forums.

I read this forum quite a bit though, and as such I've read lots of your posts. The lion's share of your time here is spent needlessly bashing Microsoft and needlessly defending Sony. You can not deny this (you can -and maybe you will... but it would be idiocy.)

Don't you even realize that's what a fanboy is?

A fanboy is someone that purchases a console because it has "Sony" or "Microsoft" slapped on it to my understanding. It has absolutely nothing to what I spend my time posting on these forums. I've debunked the "fanboy" claim every time it's come at me. Example: I rely on the PC as a platform to argue against the Xbox 360. I consider it a better platform than the Xbox 360 and prefer it to the Playstation 3. Am I a hermit, given that I prefer the PC platform to everything else, or am I a cow, given that I like to defend the Playstation 3 format?

Today, now, read that again, today, as in several hours ago, I ripped Sony to shreds, criticizing them for the dropping of the 60 gigabyte SKU in favor of the 80 gig. I also believe that they should introduce a price drop worldwide, including PAL territories. That's a criticism. I don't care what you think about me, character attacks simply do not fly when I'm countering your points left and right, even your character attacks and criticisms I'm essentially deflecting with ease.

In summary, whatever you want to believe despite my arguments is fine with me, given you've got nothing on my arguments or my character in the first place.

[QUOTE="Redfingers"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Sad...you keep thinking thatHeil68

I will, given Oblivion PS3 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma, which are both clearly superior to their 360/Xbox counterparts, yet still scored lower.

because Gears is so beast, all cows and whoever just deny it

Saying that uncharted has already "Dethroned" Gears is very cowish of you RedFingers, omg how to say it "SELF PWNED" yet again

housy2008

Saying that it hasn't is very "lemming-ish."

Saying that UT3 and Gears PC do not match up to Gears 360 is the most "lemming-ish" thing I've seen all my life. Read the commentary, watch the vid, read Mark Rein's lips, view the vids and pictures, STHU, please.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Redfingers"]

[QUOTE="Heil68"] Sad...you keep thinking thatwashere12

I will, given Oblivion PS3 and Ninja Gaiden Sigma, which are both clearly superior to their 360/Xbox counterparts, yet still scored lower.

because Gears is so beast, all cows and whoever just deny it

Let me take a moment to play your game.

Gears of War is such a beast, wowy-wow. It is amazing, yeah, wow. It is going to ROCK on the PC platform and be the best looking game on the planet.

You still fail.

[QUOTE="Vylence"][QUOTE="Redfingers"]

Um. Let's see.

Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword, Crysis, Motorstorm, Uncharted, Medieval Total War, Company of Heroes, and Killzone 2 pretty much destroy it as far as graphics (and I personally have done extensive video/screenshot comparisons and I believe that Resistance MORE than measures up). And UT3 is a no-brainer.

Ninja Gaiden has far better looking in-game character models, and runs at a higher resolution and framerate.

Redfingers

I've played Gears and Resistance, Gears blow Resistance out of the water. The only PS3 games that look light they MIGHT dethrone Gears are Uncharted and Killzone. Heavenly Sword deffinatly does not.

I've played Gears and Resistance, and I'm inclined to disagree, especially because I've got hundreds of images on my PS3 image viewer in 720p that lead me to believe otherwise.

Uncharted, Killzone, and Heavenly Sword have already "dethroned" Gears, and as if this was the task, given, again, UT3 and Gears PC have already dethroned 360 Gears.

You are entitled to your own opinion on Gears vs. Resistance, so i will just point out that your opinion certainly does not seem to be the majority, especially among reviews. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm not saying your right...i'm just saying you are "different".

It's pretty lame that you need to name 5 unreleased games to "dethrone" Gears. The fact that you need to dig into the future is a testament to how great Gears looks.

When uncharted comes out then you can compare it to other games

Lookout forRedfingers he said STHU, my goodness its people like these who bring the flavor of SW down

Can't people have conversations on here without getting mad and using profanity? Yes, but every once in a while you find a confused person like this. Dr. Phil could use your money

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[QUOTE="Redfingers"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

Gears is beautiful. Don't people think that is's a little bit of a conincidence that most/all of the Gears graphics haters don't own a 360? The most respectable thing IMO about Gears is that it hit it's target...they didn't show off a bunch of fake footage and than try and catch up later. What they showed they achieved.

BTW, maybe it was just a bad video, but the video that the TC posted doesn't look as good as gears. The player models in GeOW were amazing, and the atmosphere was intense. This was just a video of a small character jumping on a huge, nicely textured wall.

bezaire2005

Wrong. The actual, physical game does not match the BS propaganda renders I have in my Game Informer magazine.

proof?

Proof delivered. The target renders were intentionally gorgeous.

When uncharted comes out then you can compare it to other games

Lookout forRedfingers he said STHU, my goodness its people like these who bring the flavor of SW down

Can't people have conversations on here without getting mad and using profanity? Yes, but every once in a while you find a confused person like this. Dr. Phil could use your money

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housy2008

"Cow-ish" and "END" seem to come from the same book as "STHU," actually.

I'm really not interested in engaging on character attacks, read my posts in this thread, please, to learn more.

[QUOTE="housy2008"]

Saying that uncharted has already "Dethroned" Gears is very cowish of you RedFingers, omg how to say it "SELF PWNED" yet again

Redfingers

Saying that it hasn't is very "lemming-ish."

Saying that UT3 and Gears PC do not match up to Gears 360 is the most "lemming-ish" thing I've seen all my life. Read the commentary, watch the vid, read Mark Rein's lips, view the vids and pictures, STHU, please.

[QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="Filonus"][QUOTE="NickG1215"][QUOTE="housy2008"]

The thing that people forget when making graphic comparisons to GeoW, is that it was released back in november. So of course games are going to be looking better than it a year later, especially when creators get the PS3 figured out.

Oh and Gears got 9.6:)

Filonus

kz1 was extremely over-hyped and didn't deliver. it's funny how quickly people forget these things once there is new eye candy to slobber all over

jesus this is annoying now... hearing all the cricism they received for killzone 1 what the devs are gonna make the same game? i'm not saying this game will be the second coming imofor me that game will be FFXIII, but to think that killzone 2 will flop...is just nonsensically pessismistic.

i'm no where near as hyped for KZ2 as most of the sony camp right now. But people need to remember 1 that the Killzone team has grown i think 4 times or so as big. It's not exactly the same team. 2 kz 1 by their own admission didnt live up to the hype and its biggest draw back was thehardware it was on.Apparently they aimedto high for certain things and didnt just make a solid shooter. I don't think any shooter on ps2 could have equalled Halo. This is 07 and things have changed.

its the truth like it or not. guerrilla has yet to prove themselves as game makers. if i come off as pessimistic then thats your opinion, i think of it as being realistic. sure kz2 looks amazing, but until the final copy has been played and reviewed i think it'd be better off being forgotten for the moment. games like uncharted and ratchet come from two great development studios that truly know their craft, these are the games that deserve hype, not kz2

no its not the truth its your opinion. Guerilla has been VASTLY augumented.what your saying IS pessimistic. Killzone 2 could flop but to compare its development to the first game which was plagued by development problems and weak hardware is very stupid. More and more videos are gonna be released up until release; i think today harrison said its gonna be at TGS and Leipzig. Reporters will probably have a chance to test it out and give us their opinions.

In addition no one on this board should have to wait for it to come out F&*K that. You could apply that to any damn game.Hell capcom had a fantastic track record. Onimusha 3 and 4 sucked.DMC3 sucked. Many people say that quake4 sucked.If they wanna hype it let em hype it. That's what these boards, mags and blogs on gaming are about.

i also wouldn't consider these boards to be the source of any sort of reliable information whatsoever.

[QUOTE="Redfingers"][QUOTE="Vylence"][QUOTE="Redfingers"]

Um. Let's see.

Ratchet and Clank, Heavenly Sword, Crysis, Motorstorm, Uncharted, Medieval Total War, Company of Heroes, and Killzone 2 pretty much destroy it as far as graphics (and I personally have done extensive video/screenshot comparisons and I believe that Resistance MORE than measures up). And UT3 is a no-brainer.

Ninja Gaiden has far better looking in-game character models, and runs at a higher resolution and framerate.

bezaire2005

I've played Gears and Resistance, Gears blow Resistance out of the water. The only PS3 games that look light they MIGHT dethrone Gears are Uncharted and Killzone. Heavenly Sword deffinatly does not.

I've played Gears and Resistance, and I'm inclined to disagree, especially because I've got hundreds of images on my PS3 image viewer in 720p that lead me to believe otherwise.

Uncharted, Killzone, and Heavenly Sword have already "dethroned" Gears, and as if this was the task, given, again, UT3 and Gears PC have already dethroned 360 Gears.

You are entitled to your own opinion on Gears vs. Resistance, so i will just point out that your opinion certainly does not seem to be the majority, especially among reviews. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm not saying your right...i'm just saying you are "different".

It's pretty lame that you need to name 5 unreleased games to "dethrone" Gears. The fact that you need to dig into the future is a testament to how great Gears looks.

I cited Ninja Gaiden, Company of Heroes, Medieval Total War, and Motorstorm. So, with this knowledge, what do you think. Am I still using unreleased games or am I using a combination of released games and unreleased games to make my point?

[QUOTE="bezaire2005"][QUOTE="Redfingers"][QUOTE="bezaire2005"]

Gears is beautiful. Don't people think that is's a little bit of a conincidence that most/all of the Gears graphics haters don't own a 360? The most respectable thing IMO about Gears is that it hit it's target...they didn't show off a bunch of fake footage and than try and catch up later. What they showed they achieved.

BTW, maybe it was just a bad video, but the video that the TC posted doesn't look as good as gears. The player models in GeOW were amazing, and the atmosphere was intense. This was just a video of a small character jumping on a huge, nicely textured wall.

Redfingers

Wrong. The actual, physical game does not match the BS propaganda renders I have in my Game Informer magazine.

proof?

Proof delivered. The target renders were intentionally gorgeous.

proof denied.

IMO, it is very very close. If you stand that close to Dom you will get pretty much the exact same character model.

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A fanboy is someone that purchases a console because it has "Sony" or "Microsoft" slapped on it to my understanding. Redfingers

No, not completely.

A fanboy is someone with an attachment to a brand name/platform who refuses to view situations objectively because of this attachment. As such, Microsoft fanboys are far more likely to criticize Sony ENDLESSLY even when it's not warranted. Same for Sony fanboys, Nintendo fanboys. That's the difference between fans and fanboys, fanboys "hate."

There's no shame in this if it's your thing, I just don't understand it and I've never someone be able to explain it in a way I completely understand (other than "I like what I like.") Obviously that fanboy is more likely to purchase items branded with his logo of choice... but that doesn't stop him from occasionally even criticizing his brand of choice. But at the end of the day he still has a "brand of choice" for no good reason.

Your time here is mostly spent bashing the 360, and endorsing your other platforms of choice. This is a fact, sorry.

Let me put it this way,if there were no brand names and every game were played onthe samefaceless, nameless gray box your posts would change drastically. You would no longer have "your team," and you would no longer have an opposing team to boo. Mine would not. Why? I only follow games, I could care less about brand names. Disliking a brand name and games that fall under its umbrella (for no other reason that they fall under its umbrella) is senseless to me.

You can tell me you're not a fanboy until you're red in the face (to match your fingers,) but you'd only be fooling yourself.

Anyway, I have and uncut Aus Casino Royale BDROM to watch. You know, the American version is censored (about 1:30 is cut, not much I know... but still.) The Australian version is complete due to their different rating system (they have M which is 15+ whereas we only have PS-13.) What does this have to do with this thread? Absolutely nothing. Have fun man.*goes off to watch Casino Royale*