World of Warcraft loses 1.1 million subscribers, down to 9.1 million

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#1 princeofshapeir
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  • 16.9 million Battle.net users logged in last month, up from 10 million just 3 months ago.
  • 10 million D3 copies sold, with 1.2 million of those from the Annual Pass. It was the best-selling PC game for the first six months of 2012.
  • Most of the WoW Subscription losses were from the East.
  • Losses are from people playing Diablo 3 and leaving for other things to do until the new expansion.
  • Mists of Pandaria will utilize TV and online ads leading up to the launch.
  • The China launch Mists of Pandaria will launch as soon as possible, not likely in Q3.
  • 4.7 million people watched the event at MLG for Heart of the Swarm.

Frankly, considering it's been about 9 months with zero new content since the release of Dragon Soul, it's a wonder that they haven't lost more than that considering what's gone on in gaming recently (D3, Guild Wars 2 beta, etc.).

...It's still 9 million more players than SWTOR, too. :lol:

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#2 MonsieurX
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Wait until GW2
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#3 Dreams0fChaos
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damn that sucks they will probobly get those figures back once the new expansion arrives. hopefully its better than what cata was

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#4 moistsandwich
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Wait until GW2MonsieurX

Oh man you just cursed GW2... take it back.... TAKE IT BACK QUICK!

Everytime someone says wait til "GAME X" comes out it'll put a dent in WoW... well you know what happens.

I hope you're right.... but the curse.... THHHEEEEEE CUUUURRRSSEEEE!!!!!!

I'm jumping on the GW 2 bandwagon..... I vowed that last time I quit WoW, it was the final time.... I'm not going back, I MUST NOT....

though I still get the itch somedays.

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#5 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wait until GW2moistsandwich

Oh man you just cursed GW2... take it back.... TAKE IT BACK QUICK!

Everytime someone says wait til "GAME X" comes out it'll put a dent in WoW... well you know what happens.

I hope you're right.... but the curse.... THHHEEEEEE CUUUURRRSSEEEE!!!!!!

I'm jumping on the GW 2 bandwagon..... I vowed that last time I quit WoW, it was the final time.... I'm not going back, I MUST NOT....

though I still get the itch somedays.

I doubt GW2 will cut heavily into WoW's subscription numbers. A lot of people will be playing both games since GW2 has no subscription fee. Heck, GW2 isn't even the same kind of MMO as WoW--it really isn't in direct competition with it.
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#6 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wait until GW2moistsandwich

Oh man you just cursed GW2... take it back.... TAKE IT BACK QUICK!

Everytime someone says wait til "GAME X" comes out it'll put a dent in WoW... well you know what happens.

I hope you're right.... but the curse.... THHHEEEEEE CUUUURRRSSEEEE!!!!!!

I'm jumping on the GW 2 bandwagon..... I vowed that last time I quit WoW, it was the final time.... I'm not going back, I MUST NOT....

though I still get the itch somedays.

Not saying it will surpass WoW,but it will surely cut into it
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#7 Riadon2
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Oh no, only $136.5 million a month! They are going to go bankrupt!
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#8 ydnarrewop
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[QUOTE="moistsandwich"]

[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wait until GW2MonsieurX

Oh man you just cursed GW2... take it back.... TAKE IT BACK QUICK!

Everytime someone says wait til "GAME X" comes out it'll put a dent in WoW... well you know what happens.

I hope you're right.... but the curse.... THHHEEEEEE CUUUURRRSSEEEE!!!!!!

I'm jumping on the GW 2 bandwagon..... I vowed that last time I quit WoW, it was the final time.... I'm not going back, I MUST NOT....

though I still get the itch somedays.

Not saying it will surpass WoW,but it will surely cut into it

I'd agree with this. The GW2 stress test yesterday seemed to be very refined. I'm looking forward to it. And like all MMOs: Subscriptions/members doesn't link to activity.
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WoW numbers decrease between every expansion? STOP THE PRESSES

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#10 -Unreal-
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Wait until GW2MonsieurX
:lol: yeah right WoW's been out for well over 8 years and no game has scratched it. Why will GW2 be any different from Tera, Aion, FFIV, ToRtanic, Warhammer, CoH, CoV, GW1, DcUO, SW, AoC, SWG, EQ2, Rift, and probably a whole bunch more I've missed? GW2 has to go F2P to even stand a chance against the mighty king of the genre. 8 and a half years on the throne. GW2 is out just before Mists as well. Going to be fun seeing that. WoW is such a good MMO people are willing to pay just to play it, even after all these years and the cost is still the same as it was on day 1. Let's watch the GW2 devs lying about subscription numbers when GW2's been out for a few months just like they lied about their first GW being an MMO then jumped ship calling it CCRPG or some crap like that.
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#11 -Unreal-
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[QUOTE="Riadon2"]Oh no, only $136.5 million a month! They are going to go bankrupt!

Yes, they keep all the money they bring in from subscriptions. Every penny. What a fantastic accountant you would make.
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#12 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wait until GW2-Unreal-
:lol: yeah right WoW's been out for well over 8 years and no game has scratched it. Why will GW2 be any different from Tera, Aion, FFIV, ToRtanic, Warhammer, CoH, CoV, GW1, DcUO, SW, AoC, SWG, EQ2, Rift, and probably a whole bunch more I've missed? GW2 has to go F2P to even stand a chance against the mighty king of the genre. 8 and a half years on the throne. GW2 is out just before Mists as well. Going to be fun seeing that. WoW is such a good MMO people are willing to pay just to play it, even after all these years and the cost is still the same as it was on day 1. Let's watch the GW2 devs lying about subscription numbers when GW2's been out for a few months just like they lied about their first GW being an MMO then jumped ship calling it CCRPG or some crap like that.

1) GW2 doesn't have a subscription: once you buy the game you can play it forever without paying another cent. 2) GW2 is a different MMO from WoW or its other WoW clones for a variety of reasons, chief among them being dynamic events, no "holy trinity", no raids, and a combat system that is based around weapon-switching, dodging, and hitboxes.
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#13 Led_poison
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Not surprised, zero new content for months, I expect numbers to rise after MoP release.

Sept 25. can't come any faster

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#14 ydnarrewop
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I do agree that WoW is a wonder of the genre for sure.
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#15 Riadon2
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"][QUOTE="Riadon2"]Oh no, only $136.5 million a month! They are going to go bankrupt!

Yes, they keep all the money they bring in from subscriptions. Every penny. What a fantastic accountant you would make.

I never said that they kept every penny, but what could they possibly be doing that push them into the negative with such a massive income from WoW alone?
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It's the price of dumbing down the game in an attempt to grab casuals.

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#17 princeofshapeir
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It's the price of dumbing down the game in an attempt to grab casuals.

TopTierHustler
...Or it's the price of not releasing new content for 9 months since Cataclysm is over as an expansion. Everyone knows subscriptions will flare back up once MoP hits.
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#18 Inconsistancy
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damn that sucks they will probobly get those figures back once the new expansion arrives. hopefully its better than what cata was

Dreams0fChaos

From what I've played, I didn't enjoy it at all, especially the Monk. It 'looks' better, but it doesn't play any better.

The game needs an "item squish" (vastly lowering the ilevel and stats of items to reasonable numbers), new mechanics I'm utterly sick of this hotkey combat, the monks weren't even supposed to have auto attack, and they do. And it could use a new stat system, the whole 98% of your damage is based on your weapon alone is lame, prevents you from using fun weapons (like Thunderfury).

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Maybe Diablo 3 is stealing some numbers because a lot of people just want to kill things with their friends, and would like to not pay a monthly fee to so it? :P
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#20 RoccoHout
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Blizzard deserves the massive drop. They gave Cata a very bad end raid, and no new content for like 8 months. Cataclysm has been nothing but ****

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#21 Inconsistancy
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Maybe Diablo 3 is stealing some numbers because a lot of people just want to kill things with their friends, and would like to not pay a monthly fee to so it? :PKell_the_Gamer
I don't know about the rest of the world, but 100% of my friends have stopped playing Diablo3, and most of those same people 'left' WoW as well. Almost like D3 cured the WoW addiction, but left a sour taste in their mouth anyway.
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#22 CanYouDiglt
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I bet the same people saying Guild Wars 2 were saying it for Guild Wars 1 and all the other MMOs. You would think by now people would understand no MMO is taking out WoW.
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#23 Kell_the_Gamer
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Wait until GW2MonsieurX
They hired someone from Nexon to handle the in game cash shop. The game is already dead to me. "b-but its optinal-" NO! ST*U! Every free to play MMO says that about their own cash shop, and they hired someone from NEXON to be in charge of it.
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#24 Pug-Nasty
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Only 9.1 million? Blizzard are doomed.

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#25 Inconsistancy
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wait until GW2Kell_the_Gamer

They hired someone from Nexon to handle the in game cash shop. The game is already dead to me.

"b-but its optinal-" NO! ST*U! Every free to play MMO says that about their own cash shop, and they hired someone from NEXON to be in charge of it.

Who's to say that the Nexon guy will certainly screw up and ruin everything, did he make Nexon's policies? At least they didn't hire someone from CCP :lol:.
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#26 CanYouDiglt
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A lot of you do not seem to understand how amazing it is for them to still have so many followers. The game released in 2004 in NA. So 8 years later and they are still doing this great. That is crazy.
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#27 Kell_the_Gamer
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[QUOTE="Kell_the_Gamer"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wait until GW2Inconsistancy

They hired someone from Nexon to handle the in game cash shop. The game is already dead to me.

"b-but its optinal-" NO! ST*U! Every free to play MMO says that about their own cash shop, and they hired someone from NEXON to be in charge of it.

Who's to say that the Nexon guy will certainly screw up and ruin everything, did he make Nexon's policies? At least they didn't hire someone from CCP :lol:.

I hope I'm wrong but I know I'm not. :(
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#28 Jebus213
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WoW numbers decrease between every expansion? STOP THE PRESSES

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#29 Silverbond
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9.25.12. Pepper your angus.
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#30 Kell_the_Gamer
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[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

WoW numbers decrease between every expansion? STOP THE PRESSES

Jebus213

I don't get this, they have grown every expansion until Cata to my knowledge. :?
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#31 nameless12345
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Well, the game is almost 8 years old now. They can't just milk it will new expansions forever. It'll slowly be time for something totally new (World of Starcraft?).

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#32 Arach666
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And when Mists of Pandaria hits the shelves it will go back up again,WoW slowing down right before an new expansion comes out is the norm.
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[QUOTE="Jebus213"][QUOTE="wis3boi"]

WoW numbers decrease between every expansion? STOP THE PRESSES

Kell_the_Gamer

I don't get this, they have grown every expansion until Cata to my knowledge. :?

Subscriptions always drop between the last content patch for an expansion and the launch of the new one. It was the same between ICC and 4.0.1, except this time it's been even longer since new content has been released, coupled with the launch of D3.
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#34 ydnarrewop
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]9.25.12. Pepper your angus.

lol yep :D
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#35 Kell_the_Gamer
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Well, the game is almost 8 years old now. They can't just milk it will new expansions forever. It'll slowly be time for something totally new (World of Starcraft?).

nameless12345
That name makes me rage, it makes no sense at all. A name for a Starcraft MMO should be either (A)Universe of Starcraft (B)Starcraft Galaxy/Galaxies
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#36 RoccoHout
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Well, the game is almost 8 years old now. They can't just milk it will new expansions forever. It'll slowly be time for something totally new (World of Starcraft?).

nameless12345

Diablo is MUCH more likely to be turned into a MMORPG. They already have like half the work done.

A Starcraft MMORPG would look too much like SW:ToR

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#37 silversix_
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Would have more fun playing Star Wars Kinect than WoW lol what with people playing this crap is above me.
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#38 -Unreal-
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Well, the game is almost 8 years old now. They can't just milk it will new expansions forever. It'll slowly be time for something totally new (World of Starcraft?).

nameless12345
Why would age make any difference? When you have so many people playing your game it would make no sense to abandon it regardless of its age. Giving people new content is what they want. The game engine is around 11-12 years old and the game still looks on par with a lot of MMOs that come out today.
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#39 Allthishate
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Blizzard deserves the massive drop. They gave Cata a very bad end raid, and no new content for like 8 months. Cataclysm has been nothing but ****

RoccoHout
Cata has had its ups and downs. the last raid instance was disappointing but this expansion had by far the hardest boss ever made ragnaros heroic. And many other things.
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#40 KungfuKitten
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I find this very concerning because it could mean COD will die very slowly as well.

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#41 PCgameruk
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They will go up atleast 2 million in september.

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#42 thom_maytees
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Square Enix had said that it wanted Dragon Quest X to be supported for about ten years, but it needs the success of World of Warcraft to last that long.

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#43 SaltyMeatballs
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9 million is still enough to keep the current subscription model, but good to see it's not monopolising as much as it once did.
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I never got into that crap game anyways. I don't see why everyone loves it so much.

Gave that game like 3 chances and it never got me

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#46 -Unreal-
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I never got into that crap game anyways. I don't see why everyone loves it so much.

Gave that game like 3 chances and it never got me

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When did you play it?
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#47 Vaasman
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Well Diablo 3 is pretty much dead so I wonder how those numbers would switch around for this month.

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#48 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"]Wait until GW2Kell_the_Gamer
They hired someone from Nexon to handle the in game cash shop. The game is already dead to me. "b-but its optinal-" NO! ST*U! Every free to play MMO says that about their own cash shop, and they hired someone from NEXON to be in charge of it.

Huh? An mmo THAT IS NOT FREE has a pay to win system? :| :| :|
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#49 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="RoccoHout"]

Blizzard deserves the massive drop. They gave Cata a very bad end raid, and no new content for like 8 months. Cataclysm has been nothing but ****

Allthishate

Cata has had its ups and downs. the last raid instance was disappointing but this expansion had by far the hardest boss ever made ragnaros heroic. And many other things.

Alone in the Darkness would like to have a word with you.

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#50 AmazonTreeBoa
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Wait until GW2MonsieurX
I was going to say the same thing. It will drop a whole lot more once GW2 releases.