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#1 Alpha-Male22
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For me:

Lack of creativity. Games used to have so much of it. They weren't afraid to play around with the child at heart in us gamers, even when maintaining a serious storyline. I'm playing 3D Dot Game Heroes and I'm loving the charm, yet for many games i play on my PS3, it's dead.


Consider:

Spyro ---> Ratchet and Clank ----> Generic Nathan Hale

Crash ---> Jak ---> Drake

Sly Cooper ---> Cole McGrath

Timesplitters ---> Haze

See where things gravitated towards?

I miss being a 3 foot monkey or a Lombax. Now I play as a bald superhero-- or is he an infected soldier?

Seems to be an American thing too. Games like Demon's Souls even has a hint of silliness in it (the gesturing system for example)

A part of this is simplicity too-- older JRPGs where you read text instead of hearing voice acting... it just felt different and more creative-- as if it left more towards the imagination.

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#4 campzor
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u got cole mixed up with hale... fix it.. also naa i like these offerings.. infamous > sly uncharted > jak
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#5 deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Call of Duty and the generic FPS boom...horrible trend
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#6 Darth-Samus
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For me:

Lack of creativity. Games used to have so much of it. They weren't afraid to play around with the child at heart in us gamers, even when maintaining a serious storyline. I'm playing 3D Dot Game Heroes and I'm loving the charm, yet for many games i play on my PS3, it's dead.


Consider:

Spyro ---> Ratchet and Clank ----> Generic Superhero Cole McGrath

Crash ---> Jak ---> Drake

Sly Cooper ---> Cole McGrath

Timesplitters ---> Haze

See where things gravitated towards?

I miss being a 3 foot monkey or a Lombax. Now I play as a bald superhero-- or is he an infected soldier?

Seems to be an American thing too. Games like Demon's Souls even has a hint of silliness in it (the gesturing system for example)

A part of this is simplicity too-- older JRPGs where you read text instead of hearing voice acting... it just felt different and more creative-- as if it left more towards the imagination.

Alpha-Male22

I would say the casualization of a lot of gameplay designs. And I say this being a huge Nintendo fan and an avid supporter of the Wii. I am glad that you also mentioned Nintendo because as I was reading your statement that's all I was thinking about and then you mentioned it at the very end. Kudos :)

I know that a lot of games have released keeping the hardcore charm of the games we've all grown up caring about it. Portal, Gears, No More Heroes, Sin & Punishment, Mass Effect, etc. But a lot of other game designs (that being party games and fitness games and the like) have reared their ugly heads and although I appreciate how they helped open the market up, they just clutter my game shelves.

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#8 GreenGoblin2099
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Motion controls

DLC

Activision

Pick one, you can't go wrong.

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#9 Dr_Snood
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DLC lol ?TheGuardian03
Yeah DLC is a big one.
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#11 majestixzero
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Call of Duty and the generic FPS boom...horrible trenddarkspineslayer

yeah the milking process of.....weird future guns.......

for me

Fanboys...Sales Talks.The "Clones" and hype "failed word" i forgot about it....

weird single player experience~

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#12 campzor
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regen health.. barely new game+ cloness..... lots of games barely have an identity thanks to the popluar ones
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#13 majestixzero
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regen health.. barely new game+ cloness..... lots of games barely have an identity thanks to the popluar onescampzor

yeah on regen health

i wish old style of FPS will reborn...this gen or next.....its more harder than "regen + on hardest diffuculty on Single Player

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#14 The_Game21x
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I, for one, despise the "release now patch later" attitude console developers have adopted. I don't really care if your game's problems can be fixed with a day one patch. The game shouldn't be released in an unfinished state to begin with.

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#15 Krelian-co
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DLC has to be winer

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I, for one, despise the "release now patch later" attitude console developers have adopted. I don't really care if your game's problems can be fixed with a day one patch. The game shouldn't be released in an unfinished state to begin with.

The_Game21x
hmm "release now patch later"...hey that kind of sounds like microsoft and they're hardware
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#17 haziqonfire
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DLC when it's done wrong, which is most of the time.

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#18 ActicEdge
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Stop trying to blame everything on your buying base industry. **** you then.

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#19 soulitane
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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I, for one, despise the "release now patch later" attitude console developers have adopted. I don't really care if your game's problems can be fixed with a day one patch. The game shouldn't be released in an unfinished state to begin with.

PSTreyExpo2012
hmm "release now patch later"...hey that kind of sounds like microsoft and they're hardware

Or sony and it's online service :o :P
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#20 205212669269561485377169522720
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Motion controls

DLC

Activision

Pick one, you can't go wrong.

GreenGoblin2099

I'd throw in the serious amount of shooters this generation. Like honestly, I'm playing BFBC2 and Crysis 2 on PC right now and that's 2 shooters too many.:x

The lack of action/adventure hurts too. Not many on PC this generation either compared to the consoles.:( .. Well I always have my PS3.:P

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#21 majestixzero
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[QUOTE="PSTreyExpo2012"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I, for one, despise the "release now patch later" attitude console developers have adopted. I don't really care if your game's problems can be fixed with a day one patch. The game shouldn't be released in an unfinished state to begin with.

soulitane

hmm "release now patch later"...hey that kind of sounds like microsoft and they're hardware

Or sony and it's online service :o :P

on sony thing...~

hackers not...sony~

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#22 Snugenz
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Motion controls and motion controls.

The worst thing that happened recently to the movie/tv industry is 3D. Its only been around (again) for a year or so now but i'm already sick to death of seeing "Random movie Title 3D".

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#23 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Motion controls

DLC

Activision

Pick one, you can't go wrong.

sanim02

I'd throw in the serious amount of shooters this generation. Like honestly, I'm playing BFBC2 and Crysis 2 on PC right now and that's 2 shooters too many.:x

The lack of action/adventure hurts too. Not many on PC this generation either compared to the consoles.:( .. Well I always have my PS3.:P

Yeah, I guess so... but I stopped playing FPSs a while ago (I think the last one I played was Bioshock 2) and I'm saving my FPS crave for R3 :D

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#24 hkhatir
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Motion controls and motion controls.

The worst thing that happened recently to the movie/tv industry is 3D. Its only been around (again) for a year or so now but i'm already sick to death of seeing "Random movie Title 3D".

Snugenz

Couldn't have said it better myself.

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#25 majestixzero
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the sense of creativity (its like this mostly 60% are shooters or fps....but we need something new)

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#26 205212669269561485377169522720
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Motion controls and motion controls.

The worst thing that happened recently to the movie/tv industry is 3D. Its only been around (again) for a year or so now but i'm already sick to death of seeing "Random movie Title 3D".

Snugenz

Honestly, I'm simply wondering how long it'll last seeing as the 3D craze comes and goes every 10 or so years. I'm personally burnt out on the 3D craze, but if I go to the movies and there's a 3D version of a movie I wanna watch, might as well.:P

Hell I hardly ever play my 3DS in 3D to save battery power.:P

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#27 biggest_loser
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DLC and a lack of creativity. They should probably go together aye? I don't understand the internet option in the poll though :(
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#29 The_Game21x
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[QUOTE="PSTreyExpo2012"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I, for one, despise the "release now patch later" attitude console developers have adopted. I don't really care if your game's problems can be fixed with a day one patch. The game shouldn't be released in an unfinished state to begin with.

soulitane

hmm "release now patch later"...hey that kind of sounds like microsoft and they're hardware

Or sony and it's online service :o :P

:lol:

Nicely done.

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#30 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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LOAD-OUTS!!!!

But even more so......the rpg-ish elements in online fps games. Seriously, how the heck does that get into the game. It only makes the balance worse.

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#31 DJ_Headshot
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[QUOTE="Snugenz"]

Motion controls and motion controls.

The worst thing that happened recently to the movie/tv industry is 3D. Its only been around (again) for a year or so now but i'm already sick to death of seeing "Random movie Title 3D".

sanim02

Honestly, I'm simply wondering how long it'll last seeing as the 3D craze comes and goes every 10 or so years. I'm personally burnt out on the 3D craze, but if I go to the movies and there's a 3D version of a movie I wanna watch, might as well.:P

Hell I hardly ever play my 3DS in 3D to save battery power.:P

Once glassless 3d becomes affordable on bigger displays it will become mainstream i don't see 3d dying out in the future.
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#32 205212669269561485377169522720
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[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Motion controls

DLC

Activision

Pick one, you can't go wrong.

GreenGoblin2099

I'd throw in the serious amount of shooters this generation. Like honestly, I'm playing BFBC2 and Crysis 2 on PC right now and that's 2 shooters too many.:x

The lack of action/adventure hurts too. Not many on PC this generation either compared to the consoles.:( .. Well I always have my PS3.:P

Yeah, I guess so... but I stopped playing FPSs a while ago (I think the last one I played was Bioshock 2) and I'm saving my FPS crave for R3 :D

I'm enjoying both shooters that I'm playing, but damn give us some variety!:( I'm getting Trine just to try something different off of Steam one day.:P ... Man I'm gonna play LBP or Wipeout HD to clean this shooting frenzy off of me too.:P

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#33 FIipMode
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DLC.

And right now, this retailer exclusive pre order bulls*** is on the rise.

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#34 Vari3ty
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I chose age of the internet, just because of how broken up games are nowdays. Buy a game, and now it is expected that you'll also have to buy several DLC packs at launch to get all the content that should have been included on the disc to begin with.

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#35 Snugenz
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

Motion controls

DLC

Activision

Pick one, you can't go wrong.

sanim02

I'd throw in the serious amount of shooters this generation. Like honestly, I'm playing BFBC2 and Crysis 2 on PC right now and that's 2 shooters too many.:x

The lack of action/adventure hurts too. Not many on PC this generation either compared to the consoles.:( .. Well I always have my PS3.:P

Altough there have been some gems on the PC like Magicka and Minecraft (to name a few) i gotta agree that there's just way too many FPS' this gen, and not only is there too many but a good percentage of them are indistinguishable from the others.

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#36 GreenGoblin2099
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[QUOTE="GreenGoblin2099"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

I'd throw in the serious amount of shooters this generation. Like honestly, I'm playing BFBC2 and Crysis 2 on PC right now and that's 2 shooters too many.:x

The lack of action/adventure hurts too. Not many on PC this generation either compared to the consoles.:( .. Well I always have my PS3.:P

sanim02

Yeah, I guess so... but I stopped playing FPSs a while ago (I think the last one I played was Bioshock 2) and I'm saving my FPS crave for R3 :D

I'm enjoying both shooters that I'm playing, but damn give us some variety!:( I'm getting Trine just to try something different off of Steam one day.:P ... Man I'm gonna play LBP or Wipeout HD to clean this shooting frenzy off of me too.:P

Oh, I'm pretty sure they are good, but if history serves me right, I'll spend a huge load of time playing R3 when it comes out, just like I did with RFoM and R3. That's why I'm taking a break from them.

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#37 PBSnipes
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on sony thing...~

hackers not...sony~

majestixzero

But part of the reason the hack was successful (allegedly, anyway) is Sony was running unpatched servers... :o

I think the biggest issue is actually the lack of change in game prices: $60 is way too high for all but the most popular franchises, especially now that devs can actually make more off of DLC than the game itself.

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#38 majestixzero
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reviews...

some of games..are have potential but some on hate status on review...that make them bad then sales bad then result no sequel

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WAY way too late :P
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#40 Ace6301
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Lack of creativity and emphasis on shallow selling points (graphics, advertisement, hype). Honestly the Gen has actually been great. We've had some really good new series and some old series had a nice showing again. There's still a large sector of the industry that largely unremarkable for everything except sales.
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#41 drakekratos
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Patches coming out that drastically change a game.
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#42 Pikminmaniac
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I'm really ticked off with games trying to be movies. The "cinematic experience" is taking control out of gamers hands.

I'm playing Uncharted 2 right now and am on chapter 25... It's just not a great game, but apparently all of this superficial flashyness has reviewers and gamers alike fooled.

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#43 mlbslugger86
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Two Things:

The Rise Of DLC and having to buy stuff that should have been in the game to begin with

Singleplayer becoming nothing more than an afterthought. we pay 60 bucks for a game that has a 6 hour campaign

and now games that didn't have multiplayer, now have them

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cowadooty yearly dose

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#45 NeonNinja
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Developers spending three years to make a four hour game with locked DLC that costs $10 on the day of release. And then they choose to cry over used game sales.

Of course, every dev has also decided that they need a throwaway multiplayer mode to have a bullet-point on the back of the box. Or in the case of military shooters a throwaway campaign to accompany the multiplayer. Would it kill devs to focus on giving me a quality product. If all you're focusing on is multiplayer than just do that. Don't add in a stupid campaign, make that multiplayer better. If you're focusing on a singleplayer game don't add some stupid multiplayer mode that no one will play, just focus on the singleplayer.

Quake III Arena is one of the greatest games I have ever played and it doesn't feature a singleplayer mode. Vanquish is one of the greatest games I have ever played and it doesn't feature a multiplayer mode. Focus on something and do it right. Don't just toss in half-baked ideas that don't pan out all the way.

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#46 arto1223
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I really don't think there is a lack of creativity, there are just a lot more games coming out now. That makes it a little harder to find those unique titles.

For me, the worst thing is casualization/streamlining. There is your lack of creativity. One of the worst things about Crysis 2 was that every time you got to a large open environment, the suit tells you, "tactical options available" and that view mode could show you everything... ruined what Crysis 1 did. Many sequels this gen have been ruined because the 2nd, 3rd, etc... in the series was made to appeal to a wider audience. Also, gamepads have made controls too simple. That "you puch a button and something awesome should happen" mindset is starting to piss me off.

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stolen-nuclear-missile-by-middeleastern-terrorirst-organization stories apparently never gets old according to developers

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#48 Solid_Tango
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Call of Duty and the generic FPS boom...horrible trenddarkspineslayer
This and big devs not taking enough risks.
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#49 AtlanticRock
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Everything that's wrong with this gen can be summed up by one game for me: RESIDENT EVIL 5.

Multiplayer added to a series notorious for GREAT single player experience... I hope capcom learned their lesson and make RE6 a single player only game or keep co-op to it's own seperate mode(game).

I would also like to say lack of sidescrollers but with Super Meat Boy, Castle Crashers, Shadow Complex, etc. I say things are looking bright for the forgotten genre.

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#50 tccavey2
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Without a doubt, DLC is the downfall of this gen. It's such a **** concept.