Would any of you dopes who hated Kinect, actually be interested in Kinect 2.

Reading lips, fingers, gestures, sign language, snap of a finger, and resolution outputting you in 720p on the screen, device recognition, all of what the first Kinect was imagined to be, hello project Milo. If you say no you are kinda lame.

Depends on the quality of the actual games.

I'm very interested in Kinect's potential....

sadly that potential will most likely never be realized, not this gen anyway...

we'll see what MS does with Kinect 2.0.

Depends on the quality of the actual games.

waltefmoney

1080p games that dont have to worry about processing liek it does now, data just sent from Kinect, probably can do alot if it recognizes your fingers

Kinect 2 sounds like it could be pretty cool. However, as with any long time gamer, I am prone to feeling a little skeptical when presented with any new means of user input. Kinect 2 isn't exempt from this skepticism, especially because of how the first one turned out. That, and I'll always prefer a more traditional means of input.

Well, until we can manage a fully featured holodeck in every living room, that is. :P

720pForzaGearsFace

Why would be lame? Gimme a controller. kkthxbye.MonsieurX

big misnomer here, you can still have your controller, and play games in sync with Kinect 2

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]720pstarjet905

720p would be acceptable, 1080p would be erotic for me.

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Depends on the quality of the actual games.

ForzaGearsFace

1080p games that dont have to worry about processing liek it does now, data just sent from Kinect, probably can do alot if it recognizes your fingers

I can think of a lot of uses for that, unfortunately most of them won't be allowed to release by Microsoft.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Depends on the quality of the actual games.

waltefmoney

1080p games that dont have to worry about processing liek it does now, data just sent from Kinect, probably can do alot if it recognizes your fingers

I can think of a lot of uses for that, unfortunately most of them won't be allowed to release by Microsoft.

lol well thats true even with this version of Kinect, but, King Lemming friend, I think some really things would be opened up with recognizing lips fingers etc, movements, and the microphone will be enhanced as well

That sounds more like Kinect 4 or 5, and would have many applications. But still wouldn't be ideal as a sole interface for gaming.

Sounds uninteresting.LovePotionNo9

well thats fine, but im sure the masses will love it like they love Kinect right now.

That sounds more like Kinect 4 or 5, and would have many applications. But still wouldn't be ideal as a sole interface for gaming.

shinrabanshou

Kinect 4 or 5? lol ok I think they are a little closer to this than you think.

also im surea near mode when sitting down will be available

lol well thats true even with this version of Kinect, but, King Lemming friend, I think some really things would be opened up with recognizing lips fingers etc, movements, and the microphone will be enhanced as well

ForzaGearsFace

Of course. If the Kinect 2 is built into the machine and it also supports regular controller it's gonna own. Playing with the controller, but the game recognizing your expressions, allowing special gestures, etc.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

lol well thats true even with this version of Kinect, but, King Lemming friend, I think some really things would be opened up with recognizing lips fingers etc, movements, and the microphone will be enhanced as well

waltefmoney

Of course. If the Kinect 2 is built into the machine and it also supports regular controller it's gonna own. Playing with the controller, but the game recognizing your expressions, allowing special gestures, etc.

i dont think it can be built into the machine unless you have to position the next gen box below the tv, camera placement still will be a big deal, now kinect 4 0r 5 might be able to do that from an entertainment center, but not next gen imo

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

That sounds more like Kinect 4 or 5, and would have many applications. But still wouldn't be ideal as a sole interface for gaming.

ForzaGearsFace

Kinect 4 or 5? lol ok I think they are a little closer to this than you think.

As for scanning you into the game - seems like you're referring to at home human ray-tracing. :/

Kinect 1 failed so hard, that they're going to have to do a whole lot to convince me Kinect 2 is more than a cheap gimmick that relied entirely on a hype train behind 500 million in advertising.

i dont think it can be built into the machine unless you have to position the next gen box below the tv, camera placement still will be a big deal, now kinect 4 0r 5 might be able to do that from an entertainment center, but not next gen imo

ForzaGearsFace

Okay, just being included with the machine is fine if it's affordable.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

That sounds more like Kinect 4 or 5, and would have many applications. But still wouldn't be ideal as a sole interface for gaming.

shinrabanshou

Kinect 4 or 5? lol ok I think they are a little closer to this than you think.

As for scanning you into the game - seems like you're referring to at home human ray-tracing. :/

I mentioned Project Milo, so the full potential is still something that you nor me really can define until its developed. Microsoft is putting alot of time and money into Kinect for the very limitless potential it could have. All of the things I mentioned have been previously been mentioned in articles and the sort. I know you are a marine biologist or something, but your guess is as good as mine as what Kinect 2 will really be. I love they are building on the tech, its going to be a must next gen and more people will come to like it than hate it I assume. Maybe they even adopt it.

Kinect 1 failed so hard, that they're going to have to do a whole lot to convince me Kinect 2 is more than a cheap gimmick that relied entirely on a hype train behind 500 million in advertising.

arkephonic

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

i dont think it can be built into the machine unless you have to position the next gen box below the tv, camera placement still will be a big deal, now kinect 4 0r 5 might be able to do that from an entertainment center, but not next gen imo

waltefmoney

Okay, just being included with the machine is fine if it's affordable.

thats why i hope the next gen is what i previously boldly predicted 2015. The power of the console will be really attractive and hopefully at a nice price 350 400 range

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Kinect 1 failed so hard, that they're going to have to do a whole lot to convince me Kinect 2 is more than a cheap gimmick that relied entirely on a hype train behind 500 million in advertising.

OhSnapitz

500 million in advertising will do that.

Everyone who bought it did so in hopes of what it could potentially become, which it has yet to live up to.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Kinect 1 failed so hard, that they're going to have to do a whole lot to convince me Kinect 2 is more than a cheap gimmick that relied entirely on a hype train behind 500 million in advertising.

OhSnapitz

broken guiness book records, smashed ipad 2 sales. failage

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Kinect 1 failed so hard, that they're going to have to do a whole lot to convince me Kinect 2 is more than a cheap gimmick that relied entirely on a hype train behind 500 million in advertising.

arkephonic

500 million in advertising will do that.

Everyone who bought it did so in hopes of what it could potentially become, which it has yet to live up to.

yes its all about advertising

wow that sounds amazing, maybe now it will have an actual fighting game 1 vs 1hadoken

im thinking you will be able to do that sometime in the future.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Kinect 1 failed so hard, that they're going to have to do a whole lot to convince me Kinect 2 is more than a cheap gimmick that relied entirely on a hype train behind 500 million in advertising.

arkephonic

500 million in advertising will do that.

Everyone who bought it did so in hopes of what it could potentially become, which it has yet to live up to.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Kinect 1 failed so hard, that they're going to have to do a whole lot to convince me Kinect 2 is more than a cheap gimmick that relied entirely on a hype train behind 500 million in advertising.

ForzaGearsFace

broken guiness book records, smashed ipad 2 sales. failage

All Microsoft has to do is make Kinect a mandatory inclusion along with their next console, along with blocking used games, and they will have officially dug their own grave.

People talk about the owners of the Wii being tricked and possibly hesitant to buy the successor. Well times that feeling of regret times 100 when talking about the Kinect. At least the Wii had a solid library of great games. What does the Kinect have? Just a bunch of promised potential that was never fulfilled.

kinect 1 is sure of a hell lot better than ps3 and wii, you can use your legs and whole body, not just hold 2 stildos in your hand.... you dumb ASS ****

hadoken

All Microsoft has to do is make Kinect a mandatory inclusion along with their next console, along with blocking used games, and they will have officially dug their own grave.

People talk about the owners of the Wii being tricked and possibly hesitant to buy the successor. Well times that feeling of regret times 100 when talking about the Kinect. At least the Wii had a solid library of great games. What does the Kinect have? Just a bunch of promised potential that was never fulfilled.

arkephonic

Reading lips, fingers, gestures, sign language, snap of a finger, and resolution outputting you in 720p on the screen, device recognition, all of what the first Kinect was imagined to be, hello project Milo. If you say no you are kinda lame.

ForzaGearsFace

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

All Microsoft has to do is make Kinect a mandatory inclusion along with their next console, along with blocking used games, and they will have officially dug their own grave.

People talk about the owners of the Wii being tricked and possibly hesitant to buy the successor. Well times that feeling of regret times 100 when talking about the Kinect. At least the Wii had a solid library of great games. What does the Kinect have? Just a bunch of promised potential that was never fulfilled.

OhSnapitz

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/997628-kinect-sports/index.html

You know you're in trouble when that is your flagship title.

This user summarized the Kinect best, so I'll just quote him.

Seeing as it's restrictive as hell regarding room requirements (staging) and plagued with latency and accuracy issues, I'd say it doesn't even qualify as a good gimmick. A buddy emailed me a review recently where the reviewer actually made the case that a reason a Kinect game was good was due to the fact that the player couldn't really lose when Kinect fuc*ed up recognizing player movement. To me, that's not even up for debate -- that is a BROKEN CONTROL APPARATUS when reviewers have to wait for games in which the player can't be penalized to justify its existence.

I don't know any better way to put it: Kinect is trash. Cancerous trash. Broken controls that do not work 100 percent of the time are trash. The player having to wonder whether his input is going to be recognized (and properly discerned) by the computer is trash. The player having to wait for his input to register on screen is trash. That's not hyperbole -- that is coming from someone who has held controllers of different makes and styles in his hands for damn near 35 years and who knows the fundamental, most basic, most absolutely necessary component of a controller is that it works -- flawlessly. Watching people flail around with this thing trying to explain away all its deficiencies in the name of mindless entertainment baffles me, honest to God. I don't call it trash to be mean, I call it trash because that is the best descriptor when qualifying it as a control mechanism.

Shame-usBlackley

This dope is lame then because I have no interest in anything Kinect. Sue me.

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="arkephonic"] Last time I checked the Kinect had about 6-8 titles AA+ that also sold well... Dance Central and Kinect sports being front runners. :|arkephonic

http://www.gamerankings.com/xbox360/997628-kinect-sports/index.html

You know you're in trouble when that is your flagship title.

That "flagship title" outsold a number of core titles when it was released.. (it outscored a few as well.. What did Zelda get here again.. I forgot).

This user summarized the Kinect best, so I'll just quote him.

Seeing as it's restrictive as hell regarding room requirements (staging) and plagued with latency and accuracy issues, I'd say it doesn't even qualify as a good gimmick. A buddy emailed me a review recently where the reviewer actually made the case that a reason a Kinect game was good was due to the fact that the player couldn't really lose when Kinect fuc*ed up recognizing player movement. To me, that's not even up for debate -- that is a BROKEN CONTROL APPARATUS when reviewers have to wait for games in which the player can't be penalized to justify its existence.

I don't know any better way to put it: Kinect is trash. Cancerous trash. Broken controls that do not work 100 percent of the time are trash. The player having to wonder whether his input is going to be recognized (and properly discerned) by the computer is trash. The player having to wait for his input to register on screen is trash. That's not hyperbole -- that is coming from someone who has held controllers of different makes and **** in his hands for damn near 35 years and who knows the fundamental, most basic, most absolutely necessary component of a controller is that it works -- flawlessly. Watching people flail around with this thing trying to explain away all its deficiencies in the name of mindless entertainment baffles me, honest to God. I don't call it trash to be mean, I call it trash because that is the best descriptor when qualifying it as a control mechanism.

Shame-usBlackley

Wow.. I guess Shame-usBlckley, Doctorate in all science & Technology surrounding the Kinect, sure told us.. I'm sure we can all learn a thing or two from Shame, Master of all psychological and sociological aspects of the Kinect.. as his opinion surely trumps actual sales figures and the multitude of reviews..

Would any of you dopes that pissed your money away on Kinect actually be interested in Kinect 2?

Would any of you dopes that pissed your money away on Kinect actually be interested in Kinect 2?

NeonNinja

i love kinect sports, love gunstringer, fruit ninja is a ton of fun, love the tech, love avatar kinect, love xbox live intergration.... deal with it.

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Would any of you dopes that pissed your money away on Kinect actually be interested in Kinect 2?

ForzaGearsFace

i love kinect sports, love gunstringer, fruit ninja is a ton of fun, love the tech, love avatar kinect, love xbox live intergration.... deal with it.

[QUOTE="ForzaGearsFace"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Would any of you dopes that pissed your money away on Kinect actually be interested in Kinect 2?

MonsieurX

i love kinect sports, love gunstringer, fruit ninja is a ton of fun, love the tech, love avatar kinect, love xbox live intergration.... deal with it.

thats my first deal with it today, DEAL WITH IT