Would Halo Wars sold as well if it wasn't called Halo?

Dude, I'm not sure I understand the question unless your question is rhetorical. Branding is HUGE in marketing of any product. Would the PS2 have sold as well if it was just "gaming system"? Would Air Jordanssell as well if they were just "sweet looking bball shoes"? Would coach purses sell as well if they were "expensive leather purses"?

Building/cultivating/exploiting a brand is part of marketing and is done by all successful marketers.

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my faded memory of what i read on the first page told me that, what you actually said was that you thought it would of sold just as well .. the same amount .. suggesting the brand name didn't help it sell more than it could of sold without the Halo tag. Which i guess is quite similiar to what I claimed you said, that's the implication that I gathered anyway.

If i'm wrong then tell me what you really meant, then i'll stand corrected. If this is just more semantics then I'll conclude that this is just yet another frivolous SW disscussion.

Stevo_the_gamer

I stand by this because of the advertising, the boxart, everything would be the same except the title of the game itself.

Edit: Afterall, I was only answering the TCs question -- since he offers no ellaboration on what he means, for I know, he could be referring to the title of the game itself only.

of course not.

[QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"][QUOTE="rpg9000owner"] Ok, this is where things begin to get fanboyish.

rpg9000owner

Will gran turismo sell more just because of the name? Will final fantasy? etc etc..this is such a stupid argument and an utter excuse for a good game selling well. DeadMagazines

I agree with this. Haters act like Halo popularity is a bad thing :|

Halo games are popular because they are great and incredibly fun.

wow u actually taught he mean only the title being changed :lol: even i know that he meant if instead of a game based on halo if you took the same gameplay but changed the models units and story line to not be from halo and had a different settings entirely would it have sold as well? the answer is no the halo brand propelled the game sales over other console rts.johnny27

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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"] PC gamers are just as stupid as anyone else. Face it, when a PC gamer see's a Valve title up there on the shelf, there isn't evena second thought.-Snooze-

You see Valve don't milk their franchises to hell and back much like Bungie are doing with HALO right now. Their a highly trusted and as far as I know they have never failed to deliver when it comes to making quality games. Anyway where talking about HALO Wars here, a crappy RTS title that wont be remembered for anything other than having the HALO name and being crap. Theres already been a bazzillion better RTS's before it. To praise this game is laughable at best and pretty much an insult to the RTS genre itself.

Dude, I'm not sure I understand the question unless your question is rhetorical. Branding is HUGE in marketing of any product. Would the PS2 have sold as well if it was just "gaming system"? Would Air Jordanssell as well if they were just "sweet looking bball shoes"? Would coach purses sell as well if they were "expensive leather purses"?

Building/cultivating/exploiting a brand is part of marketing and is done by all successful marketers.

sayyy-gaa

Absolutely not

No.

i don't think it would. i've heard its a fairly solid console RTS, though. RTS just really isn't my bag, though.

Probably not, but there's nothing wrong with using the Halo franchise.

Honestly, if it *was not* a 'Halo' game how many people would actually pay attention, or care about it? Reality is not nearly as many.skrat_01

A better question is: If the game didn't use the (massively successful) Halo IP, would the project have even been greenlighted for development?

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Honestly, if it *was not* a 'Halo' game how many people would actually pay attention, or care about it? Reality is not nearly as many.LosDaddie

A better question is: If the game didn't use the (massively successful) Halo IP, would the project have even been greenlighted for development?

Most probably not.

It seems quite sure that Ensemble and Microsoft had quite allot riding on the IP when it was announced.

Saying that, to me Halo Wars felt as though it was more of a 'board room' idea of how to use such a franchise and development resources.

When the developers restated that 'Halo used to be an RTS when it was in development', it struck home this notion.

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You see Valve don't milk their franchises to hell and back much like Bungie are doing with HALO right now. Their a highly trusted and as far as I know they have never failed to deliver when it comes to making quality games. Anyway where talking about HALO Wars here, a crappy RTS title that wont be remembered for anything other than having the HALO name and being crap. Theres already been a bazzillion better RTS's before it. To praise this game is laughable at best and pretty much an insult to the RTS genre itself.

FloWeN-UK

A game just called wars? not really, and it would still be the same game.... just halo wouldnt be in the name....

Jono789

Why not? There's a game called MAG, obviously generic names don't matter.

Oh and it still would've sold well but probably not as much as it did. You know there was a demo that was the most downloaded demo right? Obviously people liked it and didn't buy it just because it was Halo. I know plenty of people who love the Halo FPS but hate Halo Wars even though they've never played it.

ofcourse not, i doubt they would have even made this game if it was for Halo name

definetely not, didnt this site give it a 6.5? i heard it sucked big time, and i bet 90% of the ppl who bought it felt ripped offcrazyyy-boyyyy

No. Its obvious Halo fanboys eat up anything with the Halo name on it.

Although i did love the game i gotta say it more then likely would not of sold as much without the name. If you looked at videos on youtube on the game like after a week you would realise the amount of people that bought it and assumed it would be like the other halos.

[QUOTE="crazyyy-boyyyy"]definetely not, didnt this site give it a 6.5? i heard it sucked big time, and i bet 90% of the ppl who bought it felt ripped offDragonfireXZ95

TBH if it wasnt halo i would have llooked.. i want more RTS on consols but since it was halo i refused to buy

Of course not. The Halo name is what made people buy a mediocre RTS. Even many people who haven't even played a RTS before bought it.RedruM_I

So, let me get this straight. Most people seem to agree that if Halo Wars didn't have "Halo" in the title, it wouldn't have sold well. But when I made a thread about Modern Warfare 2 saying how dropping the Call of Duty name could hinder sales (it will still sell very well of course), people thought that was crazy. :roll:

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You see Valve don't milk their franchises to hell and back much like Bungie are doing with HALO right now. Their a highly trusted and as far as I know they have never failed to deliver when it comes to making quality games. Anyway where talking about HALO Wars here, a crappy RTS title that wont be remembered for anything other than having the HALO name and being crap. Theres already been a bazzillion better RTS's before it. To praise this game is laughable at best and pretty much an insult to the RTS genre itself.

[QUOTE="-Snooze-"][QUOTE="FloWeN-UK"]

You see Valve don't milk their franchises to hell and back much like Bungie are doing with HALO right now. Their a highly trusted and as far as I know they have never failed to deliver when it comes to making quality games. Anyway where talking about HALO Wars here, a crappy RTS title that wont be remembered for anything other than having the HALO name and being crap. Theres already been a bazzillion better RTS's before it. To praise this game is laughable at best and pretty much an insult to the RTS genre itself.

FloWeN-UK

I played the demo. i enjoyed it, and i bought the game and i enjoyed it. Explain this to me. Am i now a deluded gamer who has no hope because i have a different preferance then you? :D

Well, no. That's why franchises are so sought after; they have massive consumer pulling power. You could say the same about any franchise. If 'God of War III' was called 'Kratos' Ultimate Revenge Quest' do you think it would sell anywhere near as well?

who cares..... halo is for tweens

If Ensemble was going to make a rts for a console M$ would have scrapt the project if it didn't have "Halo".

people wouldn't even know the game existskweeni

If Sony called killzone 2 Halozone2 obviously it would of sold 8 million copies. In fact i think it's a safe bet to just stop making names and go the halo route. Gears of Halo, Halo kazooie, Hable 3, little big halo, motorhalo, metal gear halo.

Game industry saved.

If Sony called killzone 2 Halozone2 obviously it would of sold 8 million copies. In fact i think it's a safe bet to just stop making names and go the halo route. Gears of Halo, Halo kazooie, Hable 3, little big halo, motorhalo, metal gear halo.

Game industry saved.