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Poll Would you be happy with a console market monopolized by Sony? (135 votes)

Yes 19%
No 70%
No way Sony can do that. 17%

With the way things are going I can see MS pulling out of the console market if the next 5 years go as bad as these past couple years.

Nintendo not so much. But hypothetically speaking if it were to happen. Would you welcome it?

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#51 stuff238
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YES!

Monopolies are awesome for the video game industry.

The PS2 is still considered the best console of all time because every game was on the system and Sony Dominated.

Why wouldn’t you guys want all the games on 1 system?

I would love if Microsoft/Nintendo quit making consoles and only made games for PS5.

This would solve all the problems. PS5 would sell 300 Million consoles worldwide and none of us would have to worry about crossplay and all that BS.

Developers would save tons of money and make massive profits.

It is a huge win for everyone.

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#52  Edited By Dark_sageX
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and have a movie games at -30fps cancer fest? if there is any company I'd trust to have a monopoly is Nintendo, but even then, absolutely not! game software should be open market, not restricted by archaic pay well that is consoles, games should be for everyone to enjoy and what we should have is developers fighting tooth and nail to see who makes the best games.

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@recloud said:

Not going to happen, but I want a company that it's not as bad and shady as M$.

Then you'd have to exclude Sony....just as bad and shady unless you think root kits and stealth PSN fees are "for the gamers"

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#54  Edited By SakusEnvoy
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I like simplification, so I don’t mind having a console market dominated primarily by one player. At one point, I had to own an Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP, PS2 and gaming PC just to play all the major games released between 2004 and 2012. Right now, I’m enjoying a simple market that only requires me to own a Switch, PS4 and PC. Less clutter on my shelves, less money spent on throwaway systems just because I wanted the ability/option to play AAA exclusives.

That said, as long as Microsoft releases all their major games on PC, I don’t mind them sticking around the console space - I know a lot of people are loyal to the Xbox brand and its superior controller. Nintendo is unrivaled in the portable hardware sphere and I think they will remain dominant from here on out. None of their competitors have a power-efficient device on the market, and even if they did they’re not capable of competing with Nintendo’s top shelf software. I think Nintendo and Sony have found their groove and are now sticking with their strengths, one in affordable but powerful consoles, the other in affordable but powerful handheld/console fusion devices.

It’s a really great market right now, IMO, diverse but not overwhelmingly so, and the major players have clear visions for what they want to be.

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@Jacanuk said:

Competition is good for the consumer and good for business.

So why would anyone be ok with a market monopoly?

I agree, why would anyone be happy with any sort of monopoly?

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@AzatiS said:
@mandzilla said:

@AzatiS: Home consoles yes, handheld consoles not so much. As somebody else said on this forum once before, Sony treats its handhelds like second class citizens. Plus they dropped support for the PS TV wayyy too quickly. That thing could have been huge.

Wanna hear something funny ? The second class citizen called VITA had more games to offer than wii U when Wii U was alive.

Also dont you even compare Sony with Nintendo. When Sony was in the biggest financial crisis any electronic company of our era ever was with multibillion losses for every year of PS3s life ( and Vita ) they didnt pull the plug, meanwhile Nintendo with epic profits and sales of Wii did. Go figure. And let me tell you something even funnier. Vita still getting few games here and there ... wii U is dead long ago.

Comparing Sony with Nintendo isnt the way to go to prove something, these two are totally the opposite. Just pray to god or something for Switch to not get into life support way earlier than it should and let Sony do what they do every single generation.

Yeah sure, thanks mostly to indie and Japanese third party developers though. It never received the same first party love from Sony, that Nintendo provided the Wii U with. They dropped it like an anchor.

Well that's certainly true, Sony stuck with the PS3 through some tough times. I won't dispute that Sony are very impressive in the way they support their home consoles, all I was saying is that their handhelds are a much different story. You should give credit to indie developers and jrpg developers such as Atlus for keeping the Vita alive in Japan, certainly not Sony. The Vita hasn't had any first party releases in years. They pretty much have been pretending it never existed at the last few E3s. Compare that to the 3DS, which itself still has both first and third party support in 2018, even though both handhelds released at roughly the same time.

Even the Wii U, which admittedly was as much of a flop as the Vita, still got a solid 4 years of support from Nintendo themselves. The Wii was around for 6 years before the Wii U came out, so that's not a bad console lifespan. You are right though, it is ultimately silly to compare the two companies. Sony is the king of home consoles, and Nintendo is dominant in the handheld market. Also like you mentioned, Sony is a big electronics company with many different divisions, so can afford to take a hit or two in it's gaming division. Nintendo on the other hand live and die depending on how well they do with their consoles. The Wii U was a painful moment for Nintendo, and they may well have SEGA'd themselves if the Switch didn't turn out to be as successful as it is now.

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#57 AzatiS
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@mandzilla said:
@AzatiS said:
@mandzilla said:

@AzatiS: Home consoles yes, handheld consoles not so much. As somebody else said on this forum once before, Sony treats its handhelds like second class citizens. Plus they dropped support for the PS TV wayyy too quickly. That thing could have been huge.

Wanna hear something funny ? The second class citizen called VITA had more games to offer than wii U when Wii U was alive.

Also dont you even compare Sony with Nintendo. When Sony was in the biggest financial crisis any electronic company of our era ever was with multibillion losses for every year of PS3s life ( and Vita ) they didnt pull the plug, meanwhile Nintendo with epic profits and sales of Wii did. Go figure. And let me tell you something even funnier. Vita still getting few games here and there ... wii U is dead long ago.

Comparing Sony with Nintendo isnt the way to go to prove something, these two are totally the opposite. Just pray to god or something for Switch to not get into life support way earlier than it should and let Sony do what they do every single generation.

Yeah sure, thanks mostly to indie and Japanese third party developers though. It never received the same first party love from Sony, that Nintendo provided the Wii U with. They dropped it like an anchor.

Well that's certainly true, Sony stuck with the PS3 through some tough times. I won't dispute that Sony are very impressive in the way they support their home consoles, all I was saying is that their handhelds are a much different story. You should give credit to indie developers and jrpg developers such as Atlus for keeping the Vita alive in Japan, certainly not Sony. The Vita hasn't had any first party releases in years. They pretty much have been pretending it never existed at the last few E3s. Compare that to the 3DS, which itself still has both first and third party support in 2018, even though both handhelds released at roughly the same time.

Even the Wii U, which admittedly was as much of a flop as the Vita, still got a solid 4 years of support from Nintendo themselves. The Wii was around for 6 years before the Wii U came out, so that's not a bad console lifespan. You are right though, it is ultimately silly to compare the two companies. Sony is the king of home consoles, and Nintendo is dominant in the handheld market. Also like you mentioned, Sony is a big electronics company with many different divisions, so can afford to take a hit or two in it's gaming division. Nintendo on the other hand live and die depending on how well they do with their consoles. The Wii U was a painful moment for Nintendo, and they may well have SEGA'd themselves if the Switch didn't turn out to be as successful as it is now.

Well said though i remember sheep telling me are upset with Wii way earlier than its sixth year in the market. Noone wants Nintendo to go away by the way, is one of the best out there for what they do but one of the worst how they doing it.

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#58 mandzilla  Moderator
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@AzatiS said:
@mandzilla said:
@AzatiS said:
@mandzilla said:

@AzatiS: Home consoles yes, handheld consoles not so much. As somebody else said on this forum once before, Sony treats its handhelds like second class citizens. Plus they dropped support for the PS TV wayyy too quickly. That thing could have been huge.

Wanna hear something funny ? The second class citizen called VITA had more games to offer than wii U when Wii U was alive.

Also dont you even compare Sony with Nintendo. When Sony was in the biggest financial crisis any electronic company of our era ever was with multibillion losses for every year of PS3s life ( and Vita ) they didnt pull the plug, meanwhile Nintendo with epic profits and sales of Wii did. Go figure. And let me tell you something even funnier. Vita still getting few games here and there ... wii U is dead long ago.

Comparing Sony with Nintendo isnt the way to go to prove something, these two are totally the opposite. Just pray to god or something for Switch to not get into life support way earlier than it should and let Sony do what they do every single generation.

Yeah sure, thanks mostly to indie and Japanese third party developers though. It never received the same first party love from Sony, that Nintendo provided the Wii U with. They dropped it like an anchor.

Well that's certainly true, Sony stuck with the PS3 through some tough times. I won't dispute that Sony are very impressive in the way they support their home consoles, all I was saying is that their handhelds are a much different story. You should give credit to indie developers and jrpg developers such as Atlus for keeping the Vita alive in Japan, certainly not Sony. The Vita hasn't had any first party releases in years. They pretty much have been pretending it never existed at the last few E3s. Compare that to the 3DS, which itself still has both first and third party support in 2018, even though both handhelds released at roughly the same time.

Even the Wii U, which admittedly was as much of a flop as the Vita, still got a solid 4 years of support from Nintendo themselves. The Wii was around for 6 years before the Wii U came out, so that's not a bad console lifespan. You are right though, it is ultimately silly to compare the two companies. Sony is the king of home consoles, and Nintendo is dominant in the handheld market. Also like you mentioned, Sony is a big electronics company with many different divisions, so can afford to take a hit or two in it's gaming division. Nintendo on the other hand live and die depending on how well they do with their consoles. The Wii U was a painful moment for Nintendo, and they may well have SEGA'd themselves if the Switch didn't turn out to be as successful as it is now.

Well said though i remember sheep telling me are upset with Wii way earlier than its sixth year in the market. Noone wants Nintendo to go away by the way, is one of the best out there for what they do but one of the worst how they doing it.

Yup I don't doubt it, Nintendo leaned more towards the casual gamers with the Wii, which angered a lot of the hardcore fans for sure. I think the Wii U was their attempt at trying to appeal to both, but the marketing was awful haha. Mhm, I appreciate the way Nintendo pushes forward innovation, even if it is hit or miss from time to time with motion controls, LABO etc.

And hey don't get me wrong, I'm not a Sony handheld hater. The PSP was awesome, and I would love to see Sony make another one. They just need to fully commit to it, be more consumer friendly with things like standardised memory cards, and I believe they could honestly rival Nintendo. PSP 2 makes more sense than VR imo.

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#59  Edited By mariokart64fan
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No I won't welcome 699.99 $ consoles with even less gameplay w more cutscenes lol no thanks competition keeps things cheaper.

Think about it for a second how many times have you gone to a city with only 1 gas station and paid 4 to 5 dollars a gallon then find out when you get to a bigger city w multiple gas station you'll see a vast difference in price of gas?

Q

Now put that into perspective without competition sony can start charging you what ever they want and you'll likely buy it

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@cainetao11 said:

LMAO at this 5 years prediction

I wouldn't sell pot on a street corner with some of you, much less go into real business with you short sighted nitwits.

calm down.

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@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:

LMAO at this 5 years prediction

I wouldn't sell pot on a street corner with some of you, much less go into real business with you short sighted nitwits.

calm down.

LMAO

responds to a post of mine that is over a week old with "calm down"

Get a clue, kid.

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#62 DJ-Lafleur
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I wouldn't want anyone to have a monopoly on the console market

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@cainetao11 said:
@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:

LMAO at this 5 years prediction

I wouldn't sell pot on a street corner with some of you, much less go into real business with you short sighted nitwits.

calm down.

LMAO

responds to a post of mine that is over a week old with "calm down"

Get a clue, kid.

hahahahahaha the post wasnt over a week old when i wrote my comment u genius.

and i see ur still mad so again CALM THE **** DOWN.

and u get a clue im like 24 years old i aint a kid u nitbit.

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@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:
@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:

LMAO at this 5 years prediction

I wouldn't sell pot on a street corner with some of you, much less go into real business with you short sighted nitwits.

calm down.

LMAO

responds to a post of mine that is over a week old with "calm down"

Get a clue, kid.

hahahahahaha the post wasnt over a week old when i wrote my comment u genius.

and i see ur still mad so again CALM THE **** DOWN.

and u get a clue im like 24 years old i aint a kid u nitbit.

I'm 45 and your father. It was a week old, son. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow that really proves the point. I'll do it some more HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

24 is a baby in life, unless you're like 24.

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@cainetao11 said:
@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:
@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:

LMAO at this 5 years prediction

I wouldn't sell pot on a street corner with some of you, much less go into real business with you short sighted nitwits.

calm down.

LMAO

responds to a post of mine that is over a week old with "calm down"

Get a clue, kid.

hahahahahaha the post wasnt over a week old when i wrote my comment u genius.

and i see ur still mad so again CALM THE **** DOWN.

and u get a clue im like 24 years old i aint a kid u nitbit.

I'm 45 and your father. It was a week old, son. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow that really proves the point. I'll do it some more HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

24 is a baby in life, unless you're like 24.

fair enough m38 :)

i learned to respect my elders so its cool :)

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@cainetao11 said:
@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:
@sheephats said:
@cainetao11 said:

LMAO at this 5 years prediction

I wouldn't sell pot on a street corner with some of you, much less go into real business with you short sighted nitwits.

calm down.

LMAO

responds to a post of mine that is over a week old with "calm down"

Get a clue, kid.

hahahahahaha the post wasnt over a week old when i wrote my comment u genius.

and i see ur still mad so again CALM THE **** DOWN.

and u get a clue im like 24 years old i aint a kid u nitbit.

I'm 45 and your father. It was a week old, son. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA wow that really proves the point. I'll do it some more HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

24 is a baby in life, unless you're like 24.

Hahaha 24 and he thinks he isn't a kid. I have 1 kid his age and 1 older and they're still kids hahahahaaha kids these days hahahaah

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@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

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@sheephats said:

@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

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@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:

@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

whats the pros for being a grandpa?

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#70 kingtito
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@sheephats said:
@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:

@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

whats the pros for being a grandpa?

Not sure, none of my kids have kids. My guess is being able to enjoy your grandkids without the responsibility. Being able to sit back and relax and laugh at life. Not getting triggered cause someone called me a kid. You could benefit from that last part amigo

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@kingtito said:
@recloud said:

Not going to happen, but I want a company that it's not as bad and shady as M$.

Then you'd have to exclude Sony....just as bad and shady unless you think root kits and stealth PSN fees are "for the gamers"

Dude let it go rootkit has nothing to do with gaming or sony division which is the topic here,and i already proved that MS did exactly the same shit sony did with rootkit on windows and even more.

Fact is monopolies are bad for the industry but to have MS i would take sony 100 times,after all MS hasn't even win a generation and was ready to strip you at the start of this gen of every right you have over your games and force you to be online imagine if they would have actually won last gen or were alone we already know how shitty MS is with windows monopoly.

@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:

@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

I don't think you has pass that get,considering your infantile tantrums and constant damage control over even the smallest thing say about MS,hell look at your first post on this tread you don't even express and opinion about monopoly you simple go into a tantrum over something someones say about MS.

The like a kid bring something completely irrelevant as rootkit which was nothing what so ever to do with gaming.

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@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:
@recloud said:

Not going to happen, but I want a company that it's not as bad and shady as M$.

Then you'd have to exclude Sony....just as bad and shady unless you think root kits and stealth PSN fees are "for the gamers"

Dude let it go rootkit has nothing to do with gaming or sony division which is the topic here,and i already proved that MS did exactly the same shit sony did with rootkit on windows and even more.

Fact is monopolies are bad for the industry but to have MS i would take sony 100 times,after all MS hasn't even win a generation and was ready to strip you at the start of this gen of every right you have over your games and force you to be online imagine if they would have actually won last gen or were alone we already know how shitty MS is with windows monopoly.

@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:

@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

I don't think you has pass that get,considering your infantile tantrums and constant damage control over even the smallest thing say about MS,hell look at your first post on this tread you don't even express and opinion about monopoly you simple go into a tantrum over something someones say about MS.

The like a kid bring something completely irrelevant as rootkit which was nothing what so ever to do with gaming.

Sony is Sony el tormented no matter how hard to try to dismiss it. Sony installed rootkits and you seem to be A OK with it hahahaah

And I'm not here defending MSs anti-consumer practices but you're here trying to defend Sony's. See the difference el tormented. Probably not since your head is stuffed so far up Sony's ass how could you.

Of course you would choose Sony, you're the biggest Sony fanboy there is. MS could cure cancer and you'd still find a way to make it into a bad thing. Just look at how pathetically you're trying to justify Sony's anti-consumers practices by saying "well MS did it as well".

Hahah coming from the Sony shill that created a butthurt thread early hahaha that's just rich.

It has everything to do with Sony as hard as you try not to accept it el tormented. Sony installed rootkits, Sony gaming division IS part of Sony == Sony installed rootkits. Deal with it el tormented

Truth is I don't even read a majority of your post even when they're in reply to me, at least not the entire post. They're usually filled with moo mooo moooo nonsense chalk full of Sony ass kissing which I'm never disappointed.

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Only a complete edjit thinks any monopoly is a good thing.

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@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:
@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:

@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

whats the pros for being a grandpa?

Not sure, none of my kids have kids. My guess is being able to enjoy your grandkids without the responsibility. Being able to sit back and relax and laugh at life. Not getting triggered cause someone called me a kid. You could benefit from that last part amigo

if u call that getting triggered then u got triggered too.

the way i see it neither of us got triggered though.

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#75  Edited By tormentos
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@kingtito said:

Sony is Sony el tormented no matter how hard to try to dismiss it. Sony installed rootkits and you seem to be A OK with it hahahaah

And I'm not here defending MSs anti-consumer practices but you're here trying to defend Sony's. See the difference el tormented. Probably not since your head is stuffed so far up Sony's ass how could you.

Of course you would choose Sony, you're the biggest Sony fanboy there is. MS could cure cancer and you'd still find a way to make it into a bad thing. Just look at how pathetically you're trying to justify Sony's anti-consumers practices by saying "well MS did it as well".

Hahah coming from the Sony shill that created a butthurt thread early hahaha that's just rich.

It has everything to do with Sony as hard as you try not to accept it el tormented. Sony installed rootkits, Sony gaming division IS part of Sony == Sony installed rootkits. Deal with it el tormented

Truth is I don't even read a majority of your post even when they're in reply to me, at least not the entire post. They're usually filled with moo mooo moooo nonsense chalk full of Sony ass kissing which I'm never disappointed.

No sony has a barrage of division with its own people,sony music was a totally different branch of sony to SCE,and sony pictures and so on,so was its computer division which the SOLD in fact they could sell the PS division and still sony music would have shit to do with that.

Rootkit never affected GAMES it was another division of sony,just like MS windows division has done a galore of anti consumer measures against its consumers on PC,that has nothing to do with the xbox.

Look at its this way MS installed windows 10 on my PC without i agreeing to it,use deceiving tactics used by malware where you hit the X to close the update and actually the update would go on rather than stop,fry tons of PC on the process of updating without people agreeing on the update,and spy on people with windows telemetri crap.

So again stop blaming shit on SCE that have nothing to do with them,whats next SCE is to blame for starship troopers.?

And i already owned your ass on this topic and linked you to tons of anti consumer crap ms does and still do on PC vs rootkit that is long gone boy,but like a great hypocrite you ignore them all.

Just like you defend MS hiding games under a pay wall while you complain about sony blocking accounts,double standard FTW.

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#76  Edited By kingtito
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@sheephats said:
@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:
@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:

@kingtito: nothing wrong with being young. ur ina hurry to get impotent and die?

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

whats the pros for being a grandpa?

Not sure, none of my kids have kids. My guess is being able to enjoy your grandkids without the responsibility. Being able to sit back and relax and laugh at life. Not getting triggered cause someone called me a kid. You could benefit from that last part amigo

if u call that getting triggered then u got triggered too.

the way i see it neither of us got triggered though.

Well you did you upset when he called you kid....that's kind of what triggered is but ok I can agree with you.. Have a nice 4th

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#77 kingtito
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@tormentos said:
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Sony is Sony el tormented no matter how hard to try to dismiss it. Sony installed rootkits and you seem to be A OK with it hahahaah

And I'm not here defending MSs anti-consumer practices but you're here trying to defend Sony's. See the difference el tormented. Probably not since your head is stuffed so far up Sony's ass how could you.

Of course you would choose Sony, you're the biggest Sony fanboy there is. MS could cure cancer and you'd still find a way to make it into a bad thing. Just look at how pathetically you're trying to justify Sony's anti-consumers practices by saying "well MS did it as well".

Hahah coming from the Sony shill that created a butthurt thread early hahaha that's just rich.

It has everything to do with Sony as hard as you try not to accept it el tormented. Sony installed rootkits, Sony gaming division IS part of Sony == Sony installed rootkits. Deal with it el tormented

Truth is I don't even read a majority of your post even when they're in reply to me, at least not the entire post. They're usually filled with moo mooo moooo nonsense chalk full of Sony ass kissing which I'm never disappointed.

No sony has a barrage of division with its own people,sony music was a totally different branch of sony to SCE,and sony pictures and so on,so was its computer division which the SOLD in fact they could sell the PS division and still sony music would have shit to do with that.

Rootkit never affected GAMES it was another division of sony,just like MS windows division has done a galore of anti consumer measures against its consumers on PC,that has nothing to do with the xbox.

Look at its this way MS installed windows 10 on my PC without i agreeing to it,use deceiving tactics used by malware where you hit the X to close the update and actually the update would go on rather than stop,fry tons of PC on the process of updating without people agreeing on the update,and spy on people with windows telemetri crap.

So again stop blaming shit on SCE that have nothing to do with them,whats next SCE is to blame for starship troopers.?

And i already owned your ass on this topic and linked you to tons of anti consumer crap ms does and still do on PC vs rootkit that is long gone boy,but like a great hypocrite you ignore them all.

Just like you defend MS hiding games under a pay wall while you complain about sony blocking accounts,double standard FTW.

It's still Sony son and nothing you say can change that. SONY installed rootkits...choke on that fact el tormented hahahaah

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#78 ReCloud
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@tormentos: why do kinglemming feel the need to follow us in every single thread?

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@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:
@kingtito said:
@sheephats said:
@kingtito said:

Each stage has it's pros and cons.......you'll learn that once get past the infantile stage

whats the pros for being a grandpa?

Not sure, none of my kids have kids. My guess is being able to enjoy your grandkids without the responsibility. Being able to sit back and relax and laugh at life. Not getting triggered cause someone called me a kid. You could benefit from that last part amigo

if u call that getting triggered then u got triggered too.

the way i see it neither of us got triggered though.

Well you did you upset when he called you kid....that's kind of what triggered is but ok I can agree with you.. Have a nice 4th

thanks mate u too.

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#80 GameboyTroy
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No, they need to have proper competition so that they can keep on making great stuff and so that they don't get too arrogant.

I'll leave this article here.

https://wccftech.com/aaa-3-regions-sony-worldwide-studios/

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#81  Edited By freedom01  Moderator
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a market monopoly is never good for the consumers

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#82 Aki2017
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@Jacanuk said:

Competition is good for the consumer and good for business.

So why would anyone be ok with a market monopoly?

This. Well said

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#84 Pedro
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Old farts bragging about being old farts by behaving juvenile while believing they are mature on the SW forums. ?

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#85 tormentos
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@kingtito said:

It's still Sony son and nothing you say can change that. SONY installed rootkits...choke on that fact el tormented hahahaah

Then you should STFU about it MS has way more anti consumer crap than sony,and since MS PC division is the same as the xbox then your are looking like the biggest hypocrite ever remember it is your argument.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Happy Independence day!!!!!!!!! Japanimeeeeeeeeeeee Nooooooooooooooo

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#87 osan0
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no.

i mean on the one hand it would be nice to only have to get one platform to get games from everyone. but with no competition sony, like any company, would turn very very nasty over time. they would have their customers over a barrel.

the ideal situation is that exclusives dont exist. the console market is essentially treated like the DVD player market. everyone can make hardware to a certain standard. developers develop games to those standards. the same services are available on any device that meets those standards. so i can buy the gameXtreme station from panasonic, login to xbox live and play super smash bros with friends before playing god of war.

its a pipe dream though. vendor lock in is big business. its all about the eco system and exclusives are a big part of attracting people into an eco system. what we have now is not ideal but its still better than a monopoly.

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#88 Blazepanzer24
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I don't see PC gaming going anywhere. As for would I be happy...well...I do own four Sony consoles, Almost owned six different ones at one time, but no, I wouldn't be happy.

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@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:
@recloud said:

Not going to happen, but I want a company that it's not as bad and shady as M$.

Then you'd have to exclude Sony....just as bad and shady unless you think root kits and stealth PSN fees are "for the gamers"

Dude let it gorootkit has nothing to do with gaming or sony division which is the topic here,and i already proved that MS did exactly the same shit sony did with rootkit on windows and even more.

Fact is monopolies are bad for the industry but to have MS i would take sony 100 times,after all MS hasn't even win a generation and was ready to strip you at the start of this gen of every right you have over your games and force you to be online imagine if they would have actually won last gen or were alone we already know how shitty MS is with windows monopoly.

"Dude let it go" holy shit you of all people don't get to use that line considering you quote shit from 10 years ago, and continue to live in the past and can't let it go.

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#90 kingtito
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@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:

It's still Sony son and nothing you say can change that. SONY installed rootkits...choke on that fact el tormented hahahaah

Then you should STFU about it MS has way more anti consumer crap than sony,and since MS PC division is the same as the xbox then your are looking like the biggest hypocrite ever remember it is your argument.

The cow that quotes people from over a decade ago constantly crying about the past is telling me to let it go hahahahaah. Just admit Sony is anti-consumer el tormented without brining up MS as a counter argument. Like ignorant Drumpf supports, I bet you can't

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#91 kingtito
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@i_p_daily said:
@tormentos said:
@kingtito said:
@recloud said:

Not going to happen, but I want a company that it's not as bad and shady as M$.

Then you'd have to exclude Sony....just as bad and shady unless you think root kits and stealth PSN fees are "for the gamers"

Dude let it gorootkit has nothing to do with gaming or sony division which is the topic here,and i already proved that MS did exactly the same shit sony did with rootkit on windows and even more.

Fact is monopolies are bad for the industry but to have MS i would take sony 100 times,after all MS hasn't even win a generation and was ready to strip you at the start of this gen of every right you have over your games and force you to be online imagine if they would have actually won last gen or were alone we already know how shitty MS is with windows monopoly.

"Dude let it go" holy shit you of all people don't get to use that line considering you quote shit from 10 years ago, and continue to live in the past and can't let it go.

LOL right. Idiot is telling me to let something go when he's running around crying about the same shit he's been crying about for the better part of 10 years hahaahah

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#92 SecretPolice
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lol :P

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#93 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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Microsoft almost destroyed gaming I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for sony keeping me around if xbox did all the stuff they said i'd have left gaming

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#94 Enragedhydra
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Monopolies are never good for a consumer. Sony would be able to jack the prices to whatever they want.