would you pay for TOR if the price bumped up 5 dollars a month?

I would in fact leave this heinous crime to a major corporation like EA; to increase the average MMO monthly fee from 15 dollars to 20 or even 25 a month.

I am of the opinion that this increase will have NO effect on potential sales. It would be understandable, considering the depth, complexity and scope of TOR; I wouldn't be surprised if this will be the first MMO to increase the monthly fee.

Would you personally pay a potential price hike? Anyone that is even mildly informed on TOR can make the accurate assertion that it will be the second coming next year. I would.

the last option is just sarcasm btw hope I don't get modded.

I refuse to pay any monthly fees, so, no :D

If ToR is great, I'll pay what they want :P.

I refuse to pay any monthly fees, so, no :D

DeckardLee2010

[QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

I refuse to pay any monthly fees, so, no :D

campzor

It will have no effect on potential sales because people will be going back to WoW in 3 months anyway. The reality of the situation is that all of the "stuff" that games like Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 claim to "fix" is the same core of stuff that actually makes an MMO work / keep subscribers. - Old Republic is great for single player, yet lacks real end-game content. Guild Wars 2 is great for PvP, but lacks real end-game content. The problem just continues and cascades. You have to pick a point in the play experience where the game is at its peak, and because WoW chose the end-game, everything else struggles to compete to keep the diehards. - And no, I think the monthly fees on a game can become a sticking point. WoW can charge $15 a month because it's king, and because it has quite a few diehard / end-game players who would pay $150 a month if you asked them. Old Republic is a new MMO, and one that's aiming at a lot of people who don't currently pay for MMOs. The Star Wars name is only going to get you so far, and the monthly cost becomes an issue, especially for a younger audience.subrosian

Seeing as neither Guild Wars 2 nor ToR are close to release it's interesting that you've found out they have no end-game content :P.

Seeing as neither Guild Wars 2 or ToR are close to release it's interesting that you've found out they have no end-game content :PDarkerKamikaze

[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]Seeing as neither Guild Wars 2 or ToR are close to release it's interesting that you've found out they have no end-game content :Psubrosian

[QUOTE="campzor"][QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

I refuse to pay any monthly fees, so, no :D

subrosian

I'm excited for it since I love Kotor and Bioware games in general, but it's impossible to say what its worth without actually playing it, and if it's like most MMOs I doubt it will keep my interest for more than a week. I don't have any principles stopping me from paying even 20-25 though.

[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]Seeing as neither Guild Wars 2 or ToR are close to release it's interesting that you've found out they have no end-game content :Psubrosian

If Guild Wars 2 PvP is better than WoW how will it far, far worse end-game experience? (I only PvP for the most part, I don't really raid or anything like that :P.)

I would pay 15 $ or even 20$ for an MMO that looks interesting.

TOR however does not.

>If Guild Wars 2 PvP is better than WoW how will it far, far worse end-game experience? (I only PvP for the most part, I don't really raid or anything like that :P.)DarkerKamikaze

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And GW2 faces the problem of how long their PvP remains viable / fresh / interesting as far as even end-game PvP goes.

[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]>If Guild Wars 2 PvP is better than WoW how will it far, far worse end-game experience? (I only PvP for the most part, I don't really raid or anything like that :P.)subrosian

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And GW2 faces the problem of how long their PvP remains viable / fresh / interesting as far as even end-game PvP goes.

Trust me I know that PvE is what drives MMO's, and that a PvP focused MMO probably wouldn't survive on the MMO market (coughwarhammeronlinecough), but PvP in MMO's can be just as fun as raiding. If I enjoy MMO PvP I see no reason to go play an "FPS or RTS game" they play completely different and the experience isn't the same. Also I do enjoy "small-team battle PvP" as well as Open World PvP :P.

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[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]>If Guild Wars 2 PvP is better than WoW how will it far, far worse end-game experience? (I only PvP for the most part, I don't really raid or anything like that :P.)DarkerKamikaze

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And GW2 faces the problem of how long their PvP remains viable / fresh / interesting as far as even end-game PvP goes.

Trust me I know that PvE is what drives MMO's, and that a PvP focused MMO probably wouldn't survive on the MMO market (coughwarhammeronlinecough), but PvP in MMO's can be just as fun as raiding. If I enjoy MMO PvP I see no reason to go play an "FPS or RTS game" they play completely different and the experience isn't the same. Also I do enjoy "small-team battle PvP" as well as Open World PvP :P.

[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"] If all you care about is small-team battle PvP, then more power to you I guess? Raiding is pretty much the definitive end-game MMO experience. If you're not raiding, I somewhat question the point of investing time in an MMO. Why not just play an FPS or RTS title? Why not play a DotA-like or a hybrid experience ala ArmA, WW2 online, etc? Why not play any other game, in the world, where skill is the only decider, over MMO PvP where there are so many mitigating factors that degrade the competitive experience?

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And GW2 faces the problem of how long their PvP remains viable / fresh / interesting as far as even end-game PvP goes.

subrosian

Trust me I know that PvE is what drives MMO's, and that a PvP focused MMO probably wouldn't survive on the MMO market (coughwarhammeronlinecough), but PvP in MMO's can be just as fun as raiding. If I enjoy MMO PvP I see no reason to go play an "FPS or RTS game" they play completely different and the experience isn't the same. Also I do enjoy "small-team battle PvP" as well as Open World PvP :P.

I use to play TF2, before the Mann Co. update :( and I hate RTS games so I'm all set on SC2 :P.

The market has already determined that $15 per month is the maximum anyone will pay for an MMO.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

:lol: What?

I personally think the game looks terrible, and the added fees are just more of a joke.

What is TOR?thom_maytees

the old republic

Im guessing TOR is The Old Republic? Please specify in the OP

It will have no effect on potential sales because people will be going back to WoW in 3 months anyway. The reality of the situation is that all of the "stuff" that games like Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 claim to "fix" is the same core of stuff that actually makes an MMO work / keep subscribers. - Old Republic is great for single player, yet lacks real end-game content. Guild Wars 2 is great for PvP, but lacks real end-game content. The problem just continues and cascades. You have to pick a point in the play experience where the game is at its peak, and because WoW chose the end-game, everything else struggles to compete to keep the diehards. - And no, I think the monthly fees on a game can become a sticking point. WoW can charge $15 a month because it's king, and because it has quite a few diehard / end-game players who would pay $150 a month if you asked them. Old Republic is a new MMO, and one that's aiming at a lot of people who don't currently pay for MMOs. The Star Wars name is only going to get you so far, and the monthly cost becomes an issue, especially for a younger audience.subrosian

This is how I feel atm with TOR, the fact that they spend most of. If not all their time talking about the beginning of the game rather than end game has me somewhat worried. By the looks of it I will get TOR, level together with my friends and quit after the first month.

But PvP MMO's do work, EVE Online is heavily PvP based and that has over 200 thousand of people subscribing every month. However, games like Warhammer get forgotten quickly. But a huge reason for that is because the PvP actually has an affect on the gameworld, while in a lot of PvP mmorpgs, PvP is just there, it doesnt matter who wins or loses, at the end of the day it is still the same. Basicly PvP is EvE's endgame, which is in my opinion done really well as well.

I think people will pay, then go back to WoW just like always.

I think people will pay, then go back to WoW just like always.

brennan7777

pretty much... anytime someone tries to takedown WoW 90% of their playerbase doesnt play beyond the first free month. Charging $20 a month would just be a way to make sure your game fails before the first month is over. If anything MMOs should start launching at $10 a month... if they even want to dream of ever being successful.

pretty much... anytime someone tries to takedown WoW 90% of their playerbase doesnt play beyond the first free month. Charging $20 a month would just be a way to make sure your game fails before the first month is over. If anything MMOs should start launching at $10 a month... if they even want to dream of ever being successful.

markinthedark

I don't think money itself is the problem.

It's just that people doesn't like paying for two MMOs at a time.

[QUOTE="markinthedark"]

pretty much... anytime someone tries to takedown WoW 90% of their playerbase doesnt play beyond the first free month. Charging $20 a month would just be a way to make sure your game fails before the first month is over. If anything MMOs should start launching at $10 a month... if they even want to dream of ever being successful.

N30F3N1X

I don't think money itself is the problem.

It's just that people doesn't like paying for two MMOs at a time.

true... but when deciding which one to cancel im sure saving $60 a year might be a factor for some (just look how much of a massive issue $60 a year is here for xbox live). And at any MMO launch the forums are always flooded with messages like "you expect us to pay monthly for this buggy mess? the servers are down half the time.... etc."

Really i think MMO makers should maybe give a 3 month free membership with purchase.... so people can actually see some semblance of a game beyond the bugfest first month.

either way, trying to charge more certainly isnt going to help anyone in their attempt to topple the giant.

I wouldn't be suprised if it's more than $15, since this is EA's most expensive project.

However, $15 is the most I'll pay for an MMO.

It will have no effect on potential sales because people will be going back to WoW in 3 months anyway. The reality of the situation is that all of the "stuff" that games like Old Republic and Guild Wars 2 claim to "fix" is the same core of stuff that actually makes an MMO work / keep subscribers. - Old Republic is great for single player, yet lacks real end-game content. Guild Wars 2 is great for PvP, but lacks real end-game content. The problem just continues and cascades. You have to pick a point in the play experience where the game is at its peak, and because WoW chose the end-game, everything else struggles to compete to keep the diehards. - And no, I think the monthly fees on a game can become a sticking point. WoW can charge $15 a month because it's king, and because it has quite a few diehard / end-game players who would pay $150 a month if you asked them. Old Republic is a new MMO, and one that's aiming at a lot of people who don't currently pay for MMOs. The Star Wars name is only going to get you so far, and the monthly cost becomes an issue, especially for a younger audience.subrosian

Lol @ how you've got to the end game content of both games before their out.

I refuse to pay any monthly fees, so, no :D

DeckardLee2010

Personally I don't think TOR is going to really be worth $15 a month. I think it's going to be a great MMO, but not for obsessive hardcore 40 man raid types. A lot of rumors are going around that there's going to be pricing tiers for TOR which should be interesting if anything.

Lol @ how you've got to the end game content of both games before their out.

firefluff3

Lol @ how you've got to spewing conclusions on his point before you finished reading it.

No I won't, the game doesn't look interesting to me. TOR's success or failure depends on its end game. If they are smart they will have a strong end game, but if they aren't, well TOR has 3-5 months to live.

I chose the 3rd (offensive) option in the poll, just because I'm still hugely disappointed to get this TOR mmo instead of KOTOR3.

Besides, I can totally afford to pay monthly fees for dozens of games, but as a principle I just refuse to do it.

I'd pay if I really really was into the game.

Um... If you think the industry of MMOs would accept a price raise, then you are mistaken. The current trend is in the opposite direction with freemium MMOs. If TOR is to succeed it would require the standard $15 dollars a month or less.

For them to maximize profits it would be ideal to stick to $15. I would never think of paying $20, I would pay $15 just as fast as I'd pay $10. $5 though, and I'd be a monthly subscriber way more often, but they would be unlikely to go that low, due to not enough new customers coming in to make up for lost profit margin.

[QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]Seeing as neither Guild Wars 2 or ToR are close to release it's interesting that you've found out they have no end-game content :Psubrosian

[QUOTE="DeckardLee2010"]

I refuse to pay any monthly fees, so, no :D

campzor

[QUOTE="subrosian"][QUOTE="DarkerKamikaze"]Seeing as neither Guild Wars 2 or ToR are close to release it's interesting that you've found out they have no end-game content :Palexside1

[QUOTE="the_ChEeSe_mAn2"]The market has already determined that $15 per month is the maximum anyone will pay for an MMO.N30F3N1X

:lol: What?

Then why isn't there an MMO that charges you more than $15 per month? Because no one will pay that much.the_ChEeSe_mAn2

Because noone has done it before :lol: ?

That's a completely meaningless assumption and the market hasn't in fact shown anything, considering the only really successful MMO up to now is WoW :lol:

Sorry, but I don't care about TOR. Only MMORPG that I'm hyping is RIFT. It looks really interesting.