Would you pay live fee if 360 is free to play games online

As title. If playing games online is free on xbox 360, would you pay $50 an year for cross game chat?

I already pay a bill for "cross game chat" it's called a cellphone bill. Humble-Adonis

It depends what features are in Gold. But if I didn't have free Gold till 2013 right now, I think I wouldn't pay, it really just depends on the features.

This makes no sense. If online gaming were free for 360, the $50 fee would have no reason to be implemented, or to stay implemented.

This makes no sense. If online gaming were free for 360, the $50 fee would have no reason to be implemented, or to stay implemented.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="Humble-Adonis"]I already pay a bill for "cross game chat" it's called a cellphone bill. Fightingfan

Repeating 2 day old threads now? Is this really how creative SW has become?

Ofc not.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This makes no sense. If online gaming were free for 360, the $50 fee would have no reason to be implemented, or to stay implemented.

svenus97

I understand, but I don't understand how it would still be $50. You pay $50 for added features, on top of online play, so how could it be the same without the online play.

Repeating 2 day old threads now? Is this really how creative SW has become?

NielsNL

[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

This makes no sense. If online gaming were free for 360, the $50 fee would have no reason to be implemented, or to stay implemented.

lundy86_4

I understand, but I don't understand how it would still be $50. You pay $50 for added features, on top of online play, so how could it be the same without the online play.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="svenus97"] I belive he means that if multiplayer gaming was free, but you still had to pay for party and video chat and things like zune.gamer620

I understand, but I don't understand how it would still be $50. You pay $50 for added features, on top of online play, so how could it be the same without the online play.

Wow, this is the most pointless question in the world :P

Of course it wouldn't be worth it, because a.) it makes 0 sense, and b.) you're paying a fee for the online gaeplay as well as features.

[QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Repeating 2 day old threads now? Is this really how creative SW has become?

svenus97

so basically live fee is a rip off since i can play games online on my ps3. okay i will not subscribe it after my gold membership expire next week. I will just mod my arcade since it's 100% legal in canada, and play all online games on my ps3.

so basically live fee is a rip off since i can play games online on my ps3. okay i will not subscribe it after my gold membership expire next week. I will just mod my arcade since it's 100% legal in canada, and play all online games on my ps3.

oajlu

It is 100% a crime in Canada:

"Modifying a console and computer is considered an illegal act under section 342.1 of the Criminal Code and is punishable by imprisonment for up to ten years," the RCMP said in the statement."

Link

so basically live fee is a rip off since i can play games online on my ps3. okay i will not subscribe it after my gold membership expire next week. I will just mod my arcade since it's 100% legal in canada, and play all online games on my ps3.

oajlu

He never said PSN was better and that Live was a rip off, you are just one of those people that think everyone is attacking them.

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

so basically live fee is a rip off since i can play games online on my ps3. okay i will not subscribe it after my gold membership expire next week. I will just mod my arcade since it's 100% legal in canada, and play all online games on my ps3.

lundy86_4

It is 100% a crime in Canada:

"Modifying a console and computer is considered an illegal act under section 342.1 of the Criminal Code and is punishable by imprisonment for up to ten years," the RCMP said in the statement."

Link

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/nouv-news/com-rel/2010/04/100401a-eng.htm

did they actually enforce this law? do they give ppl reward for reporting mod center? cuz I know a lot of ppl mod their 360, if there is a reward for reporting. lol that would be good. ANyway from original statement, it just sounds like they only arrest people who modify, distribute and reproduce pirated games and consoles. It seems they still not enforce it on end users. lol it sucks. That's why I dont like xbox 360. Cuz pirated users make ppl who pay $60 for games like assassin's creed 2 look like an idiots.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="oajlu"]

so basically live fee is a rip off since i can play games online on my ps3. okay i will not subscribe it after my gold membership expire next week. I will just mod my arcade since it's 100% legal in canada, and play all online games on my ps3.

oajlu

It is 100% a crime in Canada:

"Modifying a console and computer is considered an illegal act under section 342.1 of the Criminal Code and is punishable by imprisonment for up to ten years," the RCMP said in the statement."

Link

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/qc/nouv-news/com-rel/2010/04/100401a-eng.htm

did they actually enforce this law? do they give ppl reward for reporting mod center? cuz I know a lot of ppl mod their 360, if there is a reward for reporting. lol that would be good.

I doubt there is a reward for reporting, but it is still highly illegal. No matter which way it's cut.

of course not, $50 was a rip off.

Cross chat as a premium pay per service feature wouldn't work. My theory is if the PSN does start charging for premium features, Cross game chat will have to come out for both free and paid users. I mean think, how would people cross game chat if half of their friends didn't pay for the service. You'd have to make the entire thing a paid service, or make that feature free for it to work.

I don't think anyone in their right mind would.

You have to define what it means to be "online". It's not as simple as just being in multiplayer sessions.

[QUOTE="svenus97"][QUOTE="NielsNL"]

Repeating 2 day old threads now? Is this really how creative SW has become?

Respawn-d

that can only mean 1 thing.... this thread is from the future!!! :o

quick TC, give me the lotto numbers

hell no I would just call them

[QUOTE="gamer620"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I understand, but I don't understand how it would still be $50. You pay $50 for added features, on top of online play, so how could it be the same without the online play.

lundy86_4

Wow, this is the most pointless question in the world :P

Of course it wouldn't be worth it, because a.) it makes 0 sense, and b.) you're paying a fee for the online gaeplay as well as features.

wow, another "the price of xbox live" thread. seriously, come on :roll:

Would you pay for premium gasoline if regular was free? No you wouldn't, but it doesn't matter because it's not.iamdanthaman

not really. cuz wii, psn and steam are free!

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]Would you pay for premium gasoline if regular was free? No you wouldn't, but it doesn't matter because it's not.oajlu

not really. cuz wii, psn and steam are free!

But if we are operating on that assumption, then lets go there. If someone invented a car that ran on water, so that the fuel was free. But on its initial release was far more expensive than other cars. But then, to make it more affordable, the manufacturer started pulling features, like, taking out the radio, air bags, air conditioner, etc. so that it then cost as much as other comparable cars, but it was also far less reliable once it got on the road(online) and only drove 25 mph. Would you still buy that car?iamdanthaman

I assume you're referring to the PS3. If so, the online features haven't been stripped away (that I know of. If some have, feel free to embarrass lol), but the Other OS feature,backwards compatibility feature, etc.. have. While bad, they have nothing to do with online functionality.

Still, I think you're just trying to make a point to the guy who used flawed comparisons by using a flawed comparison yourself ("But if we are operating on that assumption..." seem to suggest what I'm thinking lol, but I'm not entirely sure), so I can see why you said what you said.

For the same $50 I know I sure as hell wouldn't.
If you got all of what a SILVER membership offers, and the ability to play online, then why would I pay?

if all i got was online play? nothing else, no cross game chat, no party chat, no voice chat at all, no cross game invites, no invites really....well I've just described psn for the most part...and no i wouldn't pay for it.

*I've still yet to figure out how to start a voice chat on psn*

if all i got was online play? nothing else, no cross game chat, no party chat, no voice chat at all, no cross game invites, no invites really....well I've just described psn for the most part...and no i wouldn't pay for it.

*I've still yet to figure out how to start a voice chat on psn*

WilliamRLBaker

That's because you don't play your PS3.

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]But if we are operating on that assumption, then lets go there. If someone invented a car that ran on water, so that the fuel was free. But on its initial release was far more expensive than other cars. But then, to make it more affordable, the manufacturer started pulling features, like, taking out the radio, air bags, air conditioner, etc. so that it then cost as much as other comparable cars, but it was also far less reliable once it got on the road(online) and only drove 25 mph. Would you still buy that car?catfishmoon23

I assume you're referring to the PS3. If so, the online features haven't been stripped away (that I know of. If some have, feel free to embarrass lol), but the Other OS feature,backwards compatibility feature, etc.. have. While bad, they have nothing to do with online functionality.

Still, I think you're just trying to make a point to the guy who used flawed comparisons by using a flawed comparison yourself ("But if we are operating on that assumption..." seem to suggest what I'm thinking lol, but I'm not entirely sure), so I can see why you said what you said.

I would buy a 360 right now if I didnt have to pay $50 to play online. Microsoft suckered a bunch of people this generation with their release date advantage. Theres no chance in hell theyll get away with it next generation.

360 owners will give you the usual "Ill pay for it if its worth it" but next generation, I bet my own left ass cheek theyll wait for a Playstation.

Never.silversix_

But if we are operating on that assumption, then lets go there. If someone invented a car that ran on water, so that the fuel was free. But on its initial release was far more expensive than other cars. But then, to make it more affordable, the manufacturer started pulling features, like, taking out the radio, air bags, air conditioner, etc. so that it then cost as much as other comparable cars, but it was also far less reliable once it got on the road(online) and only drove 25 mph. Would you still buy that car?iamdanthaman

For the same $50 I know I sure as hell wouldn't.
If you got all of what a SILVER membership offers, and the ability to play online, then why would I pay?

violent_spinal

[QUOTE="iamdanthaman"]But if we are operating on that assumption, then lets go there. If someone invented a car that ran on water, so that the fuel was free. But on its initial release was far more expensive than other cars. But then, to make it more affordable, the manufacturer started pulling features, like, taking out the radio, air bags, air conditioner, etc. so that it then cost as much as other comparable cars, but it was also far less reliable once it got on the road(online) and only drove 25 mph. Would you still buy that car?Humble-Adonis