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#51 legendbyname
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hahah bioshock wasnt a new IP.. its pretty much identical to its spiritual predecessor system shock. 8.0 is a good game 

  

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#52 Wil4hire
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hahah bioshock wasnt a new IP.. its pretty much identical to its spiritual predecessor system shock. 8.0 is a good game

legendbyname

Thats what confuses me about the rating. Both PC and 360.. But then again, I may have fallen prey to thinking ratings mean something :)

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Yeah i love it how when bioshock gets a 9.0 cows call it a flop, but when H.S. gets a 8.0 they like to remind you how 8.0 isn't a bad score.....yeah good goin guys.....i have nothing against any system (i've been playing games for 23 years) but this kind of logic is just flat out wrong.
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#54 underneath420
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hahah bioshock wasnt a new IP.. its pretty much identical to its spiritual predecessor system shock. 8.0 is a good game

legendbyname

And there has never been a game similar to H.S.??? I mean c'mon man......

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Yeah i love it how when bioshock gets a 9.0 cows call it a flop, but when H.S. gets a 8.0 they like to remind you how 8.0 isn't a bad score.....yeah good goin guys.....i have nothing against any system (i've been playing games for 23 years) but this kind of logic is just flat out wrong.underneath420

well an 8 isnt a bad score. it just isnt a AAA.

but bioshock was hyped AAAA and got AAA so yes it flopped.

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#56 Wil4hire
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[QUOTE="legendbyname"]

hahah bioshock wasnt a new IP.. its pretty much identical to its spiritual predecessor system shock. 8.0 is a good game

underneath420

And there has never been a game similar to H.S.??? I mean c'mon man......

Look. Paper Boy..

Bioshock is clearly a better game than GEARS OF WAR. However GOW Gets higher scores than BIOSHOCK. Can you haloboi honestly say to me that you have NEVER played anything "similar" TO GEARS EVER.. PLEASEEE tell me you think so. Once again to be clear, "GEARS OF WAR is a game that you have never played in the past. Any aspects of it are NOT similar to any game you have ever played."

Yet it gets a 9.6 for "ok" multiplayer. Halo2 had superior multiplayer. and bioshock gets a 9.0 So that .6 is for multiplayer huh? I guess games are just ranked on multiplayer button mashing, content is clearly looked over.

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#57 Wil4hire
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[QUOTE="underneath420"]Yeah i love it how when bioshock gets a 9.0 cows call it a flop, but when H.S. gets a 8.0 they like to remind you how 8.0 isn't a bad score.....yeah good goin guys.....i have nothing against any system (i've been playing games for 23 years) but this kind of logic is just flat out wrong.Rangitahi

well an 8 isnt a bad score. it just isnt a AAA.

but bioshock was hyped AAAA and got AAA so yes it flopped.

You sound absolutely obsurd. So it "flops" in the eyes of adolecent children? I'm glad Flops has nothing to do with game sales. Or Success of a game franchise. Seriously, I want you to sit down and re-read what you said.

If flops definition = "If a game isn't rated by what cineboy359 claimed it to be, then the game will officially be deemed one."

If SONY came out and said "HEAVENLY SWORD IS GOING TO BE THE GAME OF THE YEAR." And it got a 8.0, in the world of grown ups & logic, that is a flop.

Not what "kudosmuncher08" says. But hey, Kudosmuncher might know something you dont. And thats why you listen to him/her/it.

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#58 Rangitahi
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[QUOTE="Rangitahi"]

[QUOTE="underneath420"]Yeah i love it how when bioshock gets a 9.0 cows call it a flop, but when H.S. gets a 8.0 they like to remind you how 8.0 isn't a bad score.....yeah good goin guys.....i have nothing against any system (i've been playing games for 23 years) but this kind of logic is just flat out wrong.Wil4hire

well an 8 isnt a bad score. it just isnt a AAA.

but bioshock was hyped AAAA and got AAA so yes it flopped.

You sound absolutely obsurd. So it "flops" in the eyes of adolecent children? I'm glad Flops has nothing to do with game sales. Or Success of a game franchise. Seriously, I want you to sit down and re-read what you said.

If flops definition = "If a game isn't rated by what cineboy359 claimed it to be, then the game will officially be deemed one."

If SONY came out and said "HEAVENLY SWORD IS GOING TO BE THE GAME OF THE YEAR." And it got a 8.0, in the world of grown ups & logic, that is a flop.

Not what "kudosmuncher08" says. But hey, Kudosmuncher might know something you dont. And thats why you listen to him/her/it.

this is just the way it is in SW.

and all game manufacturers/publishers/devs/studios put spin on their games but we 'the gamers' create the hype. just the way it is bro.

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[QUOTE="underneath420"][QUOTE="legendbyname"]

hahah bioshock wasnt a new IP.. its pretty much identical to its spiritual predecessor system shock. 8.0 is a good game

Wil4hire

And there has never been a game similar to H.S.??? I mean c'mon man......

Look. Paper Boy..

Bioshock is clearly a better game than GEARS OF WAR. However GOW Gets higher scores than BIOSHOCK. Can you haloboi honestly say to me that you have NEVER played anything "similar" TO GEARS EVER.. PLEASEEE tell me you think so. Once again to be clear, "GEARS OF WAR is a game that you have never played in the past. Any aspects of it are NOT similar to any game you have ever played."

Yet it gets a 9.6 for "ok" multiplayer. Halo2 had superior multiplayer. and bioshock gets a 9.0 So that .6 is for multiplayer huh? I guess games are just ranked on multiplayer button mashing, content is clearly looked over.

ummm i don't even play multiplayer (even though h.s. doesn't even have any and bioshock has superior single player length wiseat 15-20 hour length) but don't cry at me because the game didn't do as well as you thought....I'm not saying it's a bad game (i haven't played it besides the demo), but don't try to tell me it's a completely origional idea for a game... because i see it as a watered down god of war .......which i'm sure lots of people will agree with....Gears of war wasn't too origional but it atleast took the formula further then RE4 with co-op, online co-op, and multiplayer.......how does H.S. up the ante?

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#60 Wil4hire
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[QUOTE="Wil4hire"][QUOTE="Rangitahi"]

[QUOTE="underneath420"]Yeah i love it how when bioshock gets a 9.0 cows call it a flop, but when H.S. gets a 8.0 they like to remind you how 8.0 isn't a bad score.....yeah good goin guys.....i have nothing against any system (i've been playing games for 23 years) but this kind of logic is just flat out wrong.Rangitahi

well an 8 isnt a bad score. it just isnt a AAA.

but bioshock was hyped AAAA and got AAA so yes it flopped.

You sound absolutely obsurd. So it "flops" in the eyes of adolecent children? I'm glad Flops has nothing to do with game sales. Or Success of a game franchise. Seriously, I want you to sit down and re-read what you said.

If flops definition = "If a game isn't rated by what cineboy359 claimed it to be, then the game will officially be deemed one."

If SONY came out and said "HEAVENLY SWORD IS GOING TO BE THE GAME OF THE YEAR." And it got a 8.0, in the world of grown ups & logic, that is a flop.

Not what "kudosmuncher08" says. But hey, Kudosmuncher might know something you dont. And thats why you listen to him/her/it.

this is just the way it is in SW.

and all game manufacturers/publishers/devs/studios put spin on their games but we 'the gamers' create the hype. just the way it is bro.

It boggles my mind.. Why do people think the 360 is re-inventing games as we know it? (in north america alone) Killzone 2 shows up and the response = "Meh, been there done that."

Gears shows up, response = "OH MY.. I just soiled my pants.. this is the most innovative game I've ever seen. Wait wait.. does that say MULTIPLAYER?!? Sweet christ... Co-OP Multiplayer too?!!?? and unlockable cogs?!?!?!?!?!1 3511!!!!!!24 Bless the day the 360 was created. I never saw any of this before in a game.. Covering behind walls!!!! wow!!!!"

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#61 underneath420
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[QUOTE="Rangitahi"][QUOTE="Wil4hire"][QUOTE="Rangitahi"]

[QUOTE="underneath420"]Yeah i love it how when bioshock gets a 9.0 cows call it a flop, but when H.S. gets a 8.0 they like to remind you how 8.0 isn't a bad score.....yeah good goin guys.....i have nothing against any system (i've been playing games for 23 years) but this kind of logic is just flat out wrong.Wil4hire

well an 8 isnt a bad score. it just isnt a AAA.

but bioshock was hyped AAAA and got AAA so yes it flopped.

You sound absolutely obsurd. So it "flops" in the eyes of adolecent children? I'm glad Flops has nothing to do with game sales. Or SOkay but weuccess of a game franchise. Seriously, I want you to sit down and re-read what you said.

If flops definition = "If a game isn't rated by what cineboy359 claimed it to be, then the game will officially be deemed one."

If SONY came out and said "HEAVENLY SWORD IS GOING TO BE THE GAME OF THE YEAR." And it got a 8.0, in the world of grown ups & logic, that is a flop.

Not what "kudosmuncher08" says. But hey, Kudosmuncher might know something you dont. And thats why you listen to him/her/it.

this is just the way it is in SW.

and all game manufacturers/publishers/devs/studios put spin on their games but we 'the gamers' create the hype. just the way it is bro.

It boggles my mind.. Why do people think the 360 is re-inventing games as we know it? (in north america alone) Killzone 2 shows up and the response = "Meh, been there done that."

Gears shows up, response = "OH MY.. I just soiled my pants.. this is the most innovative game I've ever seen. Wait wait.. does that say MULTIPLAYER?!? Sweet christ... Co-OP Multiplayer too?!!?? and unlockable cogs?!?!?!?!?!1 3511!!!!!!24 Bless the day the 360 was created. I never saw any of this before in a game.. Covering behind walls!!!! wow!!!!"

Okay so 360 owners overreact when there is multiplayer and multiplayer isn't innovative, but it's okay when there's none at all in heavenly sword how? I'm sorry, i justdon't get how this makes it better.

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#62 SergeantSnitch
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Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.accameron


I'll give you Lair, that was a flop. But outside of SW, Heavenly Sword and Warhawk are solid games, far from flops. They will sell well too as the PS3 doesn't have enough games in its library right now.
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#63 Wil4hire
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underneath420

How does Heavenly Sword up the ante compared to Gears? Well let me get in the mindset that I can compare Streets of Rage to Goldeneye... Ok I'm in that mindset.

Ok. Here we go.

Heavenly sword doesn't up the ante for any FPS. Since it is a run & hit people game. For this the game is "B" (even from the demo) If its a spin off of God Of War, then so be it. There is nothing wrong with not being original (See Halo/Bioshock/Gears of War) As long as it is an entertaining game, has amazing graphics, tied together with a thick storyline w/great voice talent & animations then that makes it a perfect game in my book. For what it is. I'll play it first had to decide on the length of the game. I bought a ps3 to entertain me with movies and games. Once the game is entertaining, it hits the mark. Get it? Games don't have to "up the ante" each time they come out, because realistically we have all been playing the same exact games since saturn/ps1/dreamcast. 360 games certaintly don't "up the ante" which I don't require of my game systems. I want to be entertained... That is why the WII is killing all consoles, because nintendo remembered "Wait, People just like games right? Fun games? Lets give it to them."

Perhaps reviews should be based on the type of game, because there is no way on earth I'd rank GEARS above bioshock. Sure you can tack on a fun multiplayer, but I can do that in any game w/multiplayer. Its nothing NEW.. and its nothing that "ups the ante." Hell Rainbow 6 has had "Co-Op" For forever.

Weve got:

FPS/RPG/ADVENTURE/Flash Gun games.

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[QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Fanboys suck you should just play and enjoy gamesGamersince81

You and i are gamers... which is somthing this place is lacking. Fanboys follow. gamers lead. Fanboys hate.. gamers love! We need gamers on this forum.

Please explain this more. I don't seem to understand what you are getting at by saying that "Fanboys follow. gamers lead" stuff.

Your thread is a perfect example. You bash a game because of one persons review on this website.. You follow the reviewers score as gospel. I will admit, i was a original NES fanboy in the "80"s but soon grew out of one system and embraced others. A gamer can care less what any person rating of a game is other than his own. Gamers that have played games for years know that the only reviewer score that matters is theirs. Its selfish, but thats being a gamer, we only care about what is fun to us. We don't have fun bashing everything, we have fun playing everything. Most of all, gamers don't ever put much faith in one mans opinion regarding a game. Have a nice day!

this is system wars. if you dislike it that much, you might as well leave :|

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interesting how ppl bring rumble to the table. it's the most unnecessary thing in gaming i've ever seen: what can you control in the game with rumble? got it?

yet there will be a new controller with it anyways, i actually couldn't care less.

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#66 Arsenal325
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wow ..tot the tc... how many times are you going to say "face it" in one paragraph? did i seriously count 3? Face it TC. you use that phrase too much
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"][QUOTE="accameron"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Fanboys suck you should just play and enjoy gamesBurnout_Player0

You and i are gamers... which is somthing this place is lacking. Fanboys follow. gamers lead. Fanboys hate.. gamers love! We need gamers on this forum.

Please explain this more. I don't seem to understand what you are getting at by saying that "Fanboys follow. gamers lead" stuff.

Your thread is a perfect example. You bash a game because of one persons review on this website.. You follow the reviewers score as gospel. I will admit, i was a original NES fanboy in the "80"s but soon grew out of one system and embraced others. A gamer can care less what any person rating of a game is other than his own. Gamers that have played games for years know that the only reviewer score that matters is theirs. Its selfish, but thats being a gamer, we only care about what is fun to us. We don't have fun bashing everything, we have fun playing everything. Most of all, gamers don't ever put much faith in one mans opinion regarding a game. Have a nice day!

this is system wars. if you dislike it that much, you might as well leave :|

he never said that.

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underneath420

How does Heavenly Sword up the ante compared to Gears? Well let me get in the mindset that I can compare Streets of Rage to Goldeneye... Ok I'm in that mindset.

Ok. Here we go.

Heavenly sword doesn't up the ante for any FPS. Since it is a run & hit people game. For this the game is "B" (even from the demo) If its a spin off of God Of War, then so be it. There is nothing wrong with not being original (See Halo/Bioshock/Gears of War) As long as it is an entertaining game, has amazing graphics, tied together with a thick storyline w/great voice talent & animations then that makes it a perfect game in my book. For what it is. I'll play it first had to decide on the length of the game. I bought a ps3 to entertain me with movies and games. Once the game is entertaining, it hits the mark. Get it? Games don't have to "up the ante" each time they come out, because realistically we have all been playing the same exact games since saturn/ps1/dreamcast. 360 games certaintly don't "up the ante" which I don't require of my game systems. I want to be entertained... That is why the WII is killing all consoles, because nintendo remembered "Wait, People just like games right? Fun games? Lets give it to them."

Perhaps reviews should be based on the type of game, because there is no way on earth I'd rank GEARS above bioshock. Sure you can tack on a fun multiplayer, but I can do that in any game w/multiplayer. Its nothing NEW.. and its nothing that "ups the ante." Hell Rainbow 6 has had "Co-Op" For forever.

Weve got:

FPS/RPG/ADVENTURE/Flash Gun games.

WI meanil4hire

I meant up the ante to it's genre not to gears (it's obviously not the same genre you were the one who brought gears up for some reason)....and it's pretty stupid to not want games to get better as they time goes by otherwise we'de still be playing pong right now......is evolution really too much to ask in this day and age? Especially when paying $400 + for a system and $60 per game? I think not........I think lots of gamers expect it and appriciate it. (hopefully)

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#69 Wil4hire
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[QUOTE="Wil4hire"][QUOTE="Rangitahi"][QUOTE="Wil4hire"][QUOTE="Rangitahi"]

[QUOTE="underneath420"]Yeah i love it how when bioshock gets a 9.0 cows call it a flop, but when H.S. gets a 8.0 they like to remind you how 8.0 isn't a bad score.....yeah good goin guys.....i have nothing against any system (i've been playing games for 23 years) but this kind of logic is just flat out wrong.underneath420

well an 8 isnt a bad score. it just isnt a AAA.

but bioshock was hyped AAAA and got AAA so yes it flopped.

Who wrote in the book of games that all of them have to be multiplayer in order to be entertaining? Believe me I would much rather play a fun game by myself, then hear some kid who is barely old enough to have a girls voice yelling obscenities at other players etc. Games can be fun that you play on your own, but to say a game isn't worthy of a high score because it LACKS multiplayer is ridiculous. Remember when we didn't have multiplayer? Games were still ranked with high marks. Back when we had good games.

Again HS is a run&beat people up game. I wasn't expecting it to change my world. I expect this of no game. For what it is, Graphics are amazing/Story is Ok/Voiceacting is top notch/Sound design is great. Yet its a flop because of what "beanieman2004" says.

You sound absolutely obsurd. So it "flops" in the eyes of adolecent children? I'm glad Flops has nothing to do with game sales. Or SOkay but weuccess of a game franchise. Seriously, I want you to sit down and re-read what you said.

If flops definition = "If a game isn't rated by what cineboy359 claimed it to be, then the game will officially be deemed one."

If SONY came out and said "HEAVENLY SWORD IS GOING TO BE THE GAME OF THE YEAR." And it got a 8.0, in the world of grown ups & logic, that is a flop.

Not what "kudosmuncher08" says. But hey, Kudosmuncher might know something you dont. And thats why you listen to him/her/it.

this is just the way it is in SW.

and all game manufacturers/publishers/devs/studios put spin on their games but we 'the gamers' create the hype. just the way it is bro.

It boggles my mind.. Why do people think the 360 is re-inventing games as we know it? (in north america alone) Killzone 2 shows up and the response = "Meh, been there done that."

Gears shows up, response = "OH MY.. I just soiled my pants.. this is the most innovative game I've ever seen. Wait wait.. does that say MULTIPLAYER?!? Sweet christ... Co-OP Multiplayer too?!!?? and unlockable cogs?!?!?!?!?!1 3511!!!!!!24 Bless the day the 360 was created. I never saw any of this before in a game.. Covering behind walls!!!! wow!!!!"

Okay so 360 owners overreact when there is multiplayer and multiplayer isn't innovative, but it's okay when there's none at all in heavenly sword how? I'm sorry, i justdon't get how this makes it better.

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#70 SergeantSnitch
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wow ..tot the tc... how many times are you going to say "face it" in one paragraph? did i seriously count 3? Face it TC. you use that phrase too muchArsenal325


Face it Arsenal, we are dealing with SW fanboys. Face it, there's no way you can change their ways, they have to face it on their own face it.
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#71 Wil4hire
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man that last superquote thread sucked... sorry.. I broke the internet :(
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wow ..tot the tc... how many times are you going to say "face it" in one paragraph? did i seriously count 3? Face it TC. you use that phrase too muchArsenal325

nice try changing the topic :|. HS flopped :lol:

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#73 dylan9999
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[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]Fanboys suck you should just play and enjoy gamesGamersince81

You and i are gamers... which is somthing this place is lacking. Fanboys follow. gamers lead. Fanboys hate.. gamers love! We need gamers on this forum.

Right on! down with fanboys up with gamers!

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#74 -Despacio-
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You know what, this sytem wars stuff is ridiculous. SONY owners, I say go out and buy Heavenly Sword, enjoy it. Ignore this System Wars logic. I mean Heavenly Sword is so short that by the time you beat it you wont even realize it was a flop. Know what I'm saying. :)
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No wonder why they called flopstation3
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#76 SergeStorms
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HS getting an 8 is technically a flop if it was hyped AAA. But it probably is still a great game. Let's face it, GS is a tough review site. There is no shame in an 8 at all. Where there is a problem for the PS3 is that there is no system seller yet. I think a lot of Cows keep hoping that each next hyped game will be that breakthrough but it hasn't come yet. So the gleeful killjoy of my fellow 360 owners is probably as much relief at Sony's lack of game success as anything else. When you add up the big fall that has already started for 360 with Madden and Bioshock with Sony's lack of a huge game, the PS3 keeps losing ground.

PS, I am playing only PC right now since my 360 has just left for the repair center. So for now I get to be a hermit. To be honest, Pop Cap games are fun and I am kind of looking forward to entering the strange world of Neverwinter Nights 2. It is kind of like learning a new language.

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#77 DXGreat1_HGL
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Oh gosh, here we go again. Another PS3 game fails to exceed it's hye and cows are trying to change the rules. Which one is it? If HS is not a flop, then neither are Zelda:TP and Metroid Prime 3 . Cows, quit trying to keep changing the rules everytime you don't get your way.

2 flops in a row or better yet $600 for short games, way to go the CDi did better then that...

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#78 AfterShafter
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[QUOTE="accameron"]Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.ff7isnumbaone

can the 360 sell at 599 price point, without AAAs?



I know, let's brag that people are dumb enough to buy a system with no games :D
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#79 munsoned
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Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.accameron
u made a topic saying wow a nother ps3 flop and didnt say what it was in ur thread:lol:

time to make a new account????:lol:

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#80 Rangitahi
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[QUOTE="ff7isnumbaone"]

[QUOTE="accameron"]Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.AfterShafter

can the 360 sell at 599 price point, without AAAs?



I know, let's brag that people are dumb enough to buy a system with no games :D

the games will come. then wat will you say? too expensive? sorry price cut.

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#81 ShmenonPie
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LOL, Heavenly Sword didn't flop as bad as Blue Dragon, made by 'TEH DREAM TEAM!!!!'. So no, Rumble sucks, games don't always flop, and the console is not too expensive. 2008 will not be too late.
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#82 DXGreat1_HGL
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[QUOTE="accameron"]Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.munsoned

u made a topic saying wow a nother ps3 flop and didnt say what it was in ur thread:lol:

time to make a new account????:lol:

Dude, he's just using a cookie cutter to save time for every future PS3 release...

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#83 DXGreat1_HGL
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LOL, Heavenly Sword didn't flop as bad as Blue Dragon, made by 'TEH DREAM TEAM!!!!'. So no, Rumble sucks, games don't always flop, and the console is not too expensive. 2008 will not be too late.ShmenonPie

So what's been the biggest flop this gen or better yet in SW history? That's right Lair AA hype and a 4.5 score. That's 3.5 off for you cows...

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#84 Wil4hire
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HS getting an 8 is technically a flop if it was hyped AAA. But it probably is still a great game. Let's face it, GS is a tough review site. There is no shame in an 8 at all. Where there is a problem for the PS3 is that there is no system seller yet. I think a lot of Cows keep hoping that each next hyped game will be that breakthrough but it hasn't come yet. So the gleeful killjoy of my fellow 360 owners is probably as much relief at Sony's lack of game success as anything else. When you add up the big fall that has already started for 360 with Madden and Bioshock with Sony's lack of a huge game, the PS3 keeps losing ground.

PS, I am playing only PC right now since my 360 has just left for the repair center. So for now I get to be a hermit. To be honest, Pop Cap games are fun and I am kind of looking forward to entering the strange world of Neverwinter Nights 2. It is kind of like learning a new language.

SergeStorms

I think system seller is a term invented by people trying to justify their own 360 purchase. Grown ups do research when they buy a product. Thats why the ps3 is selling as it is. Most people wanted a High Def DVD player, as well as the next generation Playstation. Thats why they bought it.

They bought it for:

Ridge Racer 7

Gundam: Target in Sight


Resistance(40 player online)

Genji (meh.. I didn't care for it)

Motorstorm

All of the ported games, and Reverse capability with PS2 Titles (Titles which are still being supported as of today. Unlike the xbox1.

Cows can hype games all they want. And halobois can bash, but what does that have to do with 4.27 million units sold globaly? No one is crying over 600 dollars. The biggest people complaining about it are other system owners. I like all other ps3 owners are enjoying the system. It has a long road to go as far as games and development. In the meantime I enjoy my 360/wii/and PC.

I just want to make sure this thread is up when we finally get our "Halo's." But I guess since they aren't out yet.. Sony shouldn't have forced us all to buy PS3's right?

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#85 Wil4hire
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[QUOTE="ShmenonPie"]LOL, Heavenly Sword didn't flop as bad as Blue Dragon, made by 'TEH DREAM TEAM!!!!'. So no, Rumble sucks, games don't always flop, and the console is not too expensive. 2008 will not be too late.DXGreat1_HGL

So what's been the biggest flop this gen or better yet in SW history? That's right Lair AA hype and a 4.5 score. That's 3.5 off for you cows...

Lair was a terrible game. 100% bad. Nothing was good about the game. Sorry the graphics were great, but that doesn't make a good GAME. The second good part was how easy the controls were compared to all of the reviews.. But that doesn't have anything to do with the PS3's sales, reputation, hardware or anything. Its like the 360 Ports that fail to be as good as the ps3 version. Few and far between yes, but its not bad for the 360, but for the developer.

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#86 daveg1
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so far it has been dissapointing but hopefully when the big titles arrive that will change.
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#87 Wil4hire
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so far it has been dissapointing but hopefully when the big titles arrive that will change.daveg1
If you knew the release dates of the games.. how are you disappointed? Mind you outside of Genji and lair all ps3 exclusive/ports have been good GAMES.
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#88 imprezawrx500
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Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.accameron

do you relise that ps2 didn't take off till xmas 2001? so that's xmas 2007 for ps3

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#89 flatline711
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you think heavenly sword flopped with a score of 8.0?.....LOL....get outta here...go play some 360 games...oh wait...you need a working console to do thatOfficialBed
It was hyped as a AAA title. It scored a AA Score. That makes it a flop by SW rules. Does that mean HS isn't good? Of course not, you'd have to be a total moron to think an 8.0 is a bad score.
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#90 OJT
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I guess :/
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#91 buuzer0
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LOL, Heavenly Sword didn't flop as bad as Blue Dragon, made by 'TEH DREAM TEAM!!!!'. So no, Rumble sucks, games don't always flop, and the console is not too expensive. 2008 will not be too late.ShmenonPie

It must be fun to be on whatever kind of drug you use to stay in such a deep state of denial. Did you already forget about Lair? :lol:

Cows.

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#92 tango90101
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[QUOTE="accameron"]Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.imprezawrx500

do you relise that ps2 didn't take off till xmas 2001? so that's xmas 2007 for ps3

of course you realize THE reason the ps2 took off was because it dropped in price to about $250....

the ps3 is TWICE that much....

good luck with christmas 07...:)

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#93 bajanboy2005
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[QUOTE="mtradr43"][QUOTE="Wil4hire"]

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]anyone who actually buys HS is a fool. why pay full price for a 6 hour game that has no replay value, no multiplayer, or anything else? pay 3-4 dollars and just rent it, take it back the next day, and forget about it.Wil4hire

Why not rent all games? if you are so broke?

I doubt HS is 6 hours of gameplay for a non-loser(most ps3 owners, you know.. people who can afford to spend $ on games & keep them because of how hard they work. Mostly home owners, no not PS3 home but real homes.) I mean, who gets a game.. sits down and plays it for 6 hours straight in 1 sitting? Even if you do.. Great.. you just spent 60 dollars for 6 hours of game play. The developers will surely make more content avaliable, but even if they dont.. Who cares? Its a game.. Hell the gaming industry wouldn't have survived if kids with nothing better to do sat down and beat Mario in one sitting. Or Mike Tysons Punchout..

I'm paying full price to support the developers, its a badass game. Same reason I buy CD's of artists I like vs downloading illegal Mp3s. Same reason I buy movie tickets vs downloading.

some games are not really rentable if you want to get all you can out of it. regardless of your wealth, it doesnt take a mensa scholar to know what is and isnt a waste of money. you can go to blockbuster and rent the game for a week or gamefly or whatever and do everything you can do, get rid of it, and then save the money for a more worthy purchase.

You people are all sad. Seriously. I guess if you need the money, you need the money. Do you also recycle cans? Your argument makes no sense. Yes I can rent all games from now on, and never buy any correct? How is this a PS3 Specific issue? How is this a heavenly sword specific issue?

Read this, since you had trouble reading it the first time. I BUY THE GAME TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPERS. The same way I go see movies I like vs downloading. The same way I buy CD's vs downloading them.

I feel sorry for you if you think worthiness comes out of any "videogame" purchase. Its a game system, its for entertainment. MUCH like a strip club or vegas. Its not an investment. I understand that halobois have invested every single dime into their 360's. This is why we see the constant "OHAHW! You wasted 600 dollars on a ps3!!" Wasted? Correct me if I'm wrong but the 360+HDDVD Player and a few games is 600 dollars. If the PS3 owner and the 360 Owner are both happy with their purchases, then who wasted money? In terms of spending money.. Both idiots wasted money, since it could have been invested.

Investments aren't made into consoles. The only thing invested into consoles are ego's.

Intelligence? In system wars? :shock: (Dives through window). Anyway, nicely put. I was loosing brain cells at an incredible rate until i read your post and regained a few back. lol

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#94 Bread_or_Decide
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HS flopped.

But it didn't flop hard. Lets not go nuts here.

Blue Dragon flopped harder. Lair flopped harder.

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#95 shadow_hosi
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[QUOTE="accameron"]No. Games being hyped as almost-system sellers, AAA (i think I saw AAAA here before too), etc, getting the lowest AA possible == FLOP.

Comparing it to established games is meaningless.

Face the facts, HS flopped, and flopped hard.

DarthaPerkinjan

Metroid and Twighlight Princess weren't hyped assystem sellers?

Keep telling yourself that a new franchise that scored .5 below a 20 year old franchise due mainly to length is a flop. Keep telling yourself that.

do you understand what flop means?

it means it scored lower then it was hyped

LoZ:TP flopped, it was hyped AAA and got AA

metroid prime 3 flopped, it was hyped AAA and got AA

HS? well that flopped too, it was hyped AAA (9.0-9.5), it got AA (8.0) that means it flopped, it dosent make it a bad game, it just means it didnt deliver on all the hype it got here on sw

most games hyped at AAA flop, deal with it, it dosent make it a bad game, all 3 of them are still great games, but they still flopped on the hype here at system wars.

but, you know, HS is a flop for a totally different reason isnt it? keep telling yourself that

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#96 bforrester
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TC is one of the most abrasive fanboys on this site. Is there a way to put someone on Ignore? If anyone deserves it, is accameron.
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#97 guts32
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Face it. PS3 games are flopping pretty much every time they are released, with a few minor exceptions. The console is too expensive, and it has pretty much lost the widespread appeal of past playstation consoles. You can't even have rumble when playing PS2 games on it. What is the next flop for the PS3? Face it, the PS3 is NOT the same as the PS2, nor will it ever be. 2008 will be too late. Face it.accameron

What just flopped? Be specific.

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#98 specialed
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Games with great traditions like Metorid and Zelda receiving 8.5 = FLOP

Heavenly Sword scoring .5 below franchises that are 20 years old makes it a flop?

Grow up

DarthaPerkinjan

Unfortunately, in this forum, it is considered a flop if it was suppose to get AAA and it barely gets an AA rating...So, yeah, the fanboys will call it a flop. That's how it works here.

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#99 specialed
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[QUOTE="accameron"]No. Games being hyped as almost-system sellers, AAA (i think I saw AAAA here before too), etc, getting the lowest AA possible == FLOP.

Comparing it to established games is meaningless.

Face the facts, HS flopped, and flopped hard.

DarthaPerkinjan

Metroid and Twighlight Princess weren't hyped assystem sellers?

Keep telling yourself that a new franchise that scored .5 below a 20 year old franchise due mainly to length is a flop. Keep telling yourself that.

Doesn't matter here , in SYSTEM WARS FORUMS. If it was hyped as aaa but only got the minmum aa score, it flopped to lemmings and any other non sony fanboy.

I think 8.0 is great, but its still a flop here. Period.

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#100 GARRYTH
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who cares lemmings don't see this game a great new ip for the ps 3 that will have a better sequal now that the have a engine going. lemmings are in damage control because they don't get to play a game that is not fps that hase a great score. whats next lemmings omg we get another fps to rub in your face. next we get folklore, rachat and clank, uncharted, eye of the beholder. we all don't like fps at least sony nows this. you guys always get driving or fps. we also get fps for those who do like them. but you guys just keep hyping your fps.