Wow Big Surprise, I was right :/ SSBB is not a completely new game

Well, after playing SSBB for about 15 hours, I realized i was right (remember my other thread).

Anyway, its a shame a lot of ppl will get tricked by the high scores that almost every gaming site is giving to this game.

Its just a rehash, frankly the gameplay is just about the same. I still own anyone with Fox, that char is way too powerful.

Now i can say im dissapointed.

It got 9.5. Best Smashbros Ever.

You're right. Fox does own.

You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?cakeorrdeath

much like every other fighter out there, it has its own style and usually with each new release it adds something new, but always keeping its core gameplay in tact, hardly ever does a fighting game change everything. With SSB's proven formula.. what were you expecting?

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?Taalon

So why are rehases bad? It's not everyone in the world has played all the previous games released in the franchise, and all good things are built on good foundations.

A good game is good even if it's just building off of a previous game.

It got 9.5. Best Smashbros Ever.

BlackIsle_rip

haha lolcats ftw

much like every other fighter out there, it has its own style and usually with each new release it adds something new, but always keeping its core gameplay in tact, hardly ever does a fighting game change everything. With SSB's proven formula.. what were you expecting?

VideoGameGuy

exactly...

Well, after playing SSBB for about 15 hours, I realized i was right (remember my other thread).

Anyway, its a shame a lot of ppl will get tricked by the high scores that almost every gaming site is giving to this game.

Its just a rehash, frankly the gameplay is just about the same. I still own anyone with Fox, that char is way too powerful.

Now i can say im dissapointed.

GiveMeSomething

It is same as Zelda TP, i got a Wii because it scored so high, and the game felt SO OLD to me, and with worst than OOT art on top, Wii games get high scores by name alone IMO

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?GundamGuy0

So why are rehases bad? It's not everyone in the world has played all the previous games released in the franchise, and all good things are built on good foundations.

A good game is good even if it's just building off of a previous game.

[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]

Well, after playing SSBB for about 15 hours, I realized i was right (remember my other thread).

Anyway, its a shame a lot of ppl will get tricked by the high scores that almost every gaming site is giving to this game.

Its just a rehash, frankly the gameplay is just about the same. I still own anyone with Fox, that char is way too powerful.

Now i can say im dissapointed.

saolin323

It is same as Zelda TP, i got a Wii because it scored so high, and the game felt SO OLD to me, and with worst than OOT art on top, Wii games get high scores by name alone IMO

[QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?Taalon

U just stole the words from my mouth O_O

Sure its a great game, and its better than melee, but lets be honest, a 9.5 is just out of control, its not realistic.

And wow, ive never seen a mod flame baiting me until today O_O

Flamebaiting?:roll:

I was just wandering why you thought so many different sources had given the game such a high score if it didn't deserve it.

Sorry for using a modicum of humour. I will remember from now on that as a mod all my posts must be dry and dull. :|

Flamebaiting?:roll:

I was just wandering why you thought so many different sources had given the game such a high score if it didn't deserve it.

Sorry for using a modicum of humour. I will remember from now on that as a mod all my posts must be dry and dull. :|

cakeorrdeath

Why would they change the gameplay 100% when we are talking about a series here. It didnt seem so bad when Mega Man made 20 games based around the same gameplay or the Street Fighter series. Do u know a fighting game that actually changed its core gameplay throughout the series? Everytime its been done theyve seemed to have failed. Look at Halo compared to Halo 3, Halo 3 got insanely good scores yet it had the same gameplay almost down to a tee. If you actually played Brawl you would see the gameplay isnt the exact same and the characters are much more balanced than any of the previous games in the series.....

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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?Taalon

So why are rehases bad? It's not everyone in the world has played all the previous games released in the franchise, and all good things are built on good foundations.

A good game is good even if it's just building off of a previous game.

I see what your saying. In a few ways SSBB shows the same things, the game is smooth even with Assist trophies, better graphics, Final Smashes, and more destructible and interactive stages.

I don't know if the GC could even pull off that many layers and things on screen at once with out hickups.

Why would they change the gameplay 100% when we are talking about a series here. It didnt seem so bad when Mega Man made 20 games based around the same gameplay or the Street Fighter series. Do u know a fighting game that actually changed its core gameplay throughout the series? Everytime its been done theyve seemed to have failed. Look at Halo compared to Halo 3, Halo 3 got insanely good scores yet it had the same gameplay almost down to a tee. If you actually played Brawl you would see the gameplay isnt the exact same and the characters are much more balanced than any of the previous games in the series.....

Homiegesus

Not big on fighters but I believe SF3 was a drastic departure from the others. Don't quote me on this.

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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?GundamGuy0

So why are rehases bad? It's not everyone in the world has played all the previous games released in the franchise, and all good things are built on good foundations.

A good game is good even if it's just building off of a previous game.

I see what your saying. In a few ways SSBB shows the same things, the game is smooth even with Assist trophies, better graphics, Final Smashes, and more destructible and interactive stages.

I don't know if the GC could even pull off that many layers and things on screen at once with out hickups.

Brawl has a lot more change between it and Melee than any of the new tekkens, VF, Mortal Kombats etc have had with their previous versions. cakeorrdeath

The core gameplay of any fighter in any series usually stays the same.TNOFTG

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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="cakeorrdeath"]You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?Taalon

So why are rehases bad? It's not everyone in the world has played all the previous games released in the franchise, and all good things are built on good foundations.

A good game is good even if it's just building off of a previous game.

MGS4 to SSB is apples and oranges.

It's alot easier to expand on a Action Adventure game because you get more technology more chances to try something new, etc. With a fighting game, all they can really do is add and balance.

And that's what SSB did, it added new characters, music, items, stages, features, online and it balanced the characters, made the game faster, took out cheats like wave dashing, etc. I mean, they put a lot of effort into making this game better than Melee, and IMO they did it. You can't possibly expect them to reinvent the SSB formula, especially when the fan base is so rabid.

[QUOTE="TNOFTG"]The core gameplay of any fighter in any series usually stays the same.Taalon

Bionic commando is comming out for the 360 on live arcade it will be a remake ofthe game that came out many years ago a great game then remade today with updated grafix with some extras... Now this game should gat a bad review because as you said its not much of an improvement... So by defualt what your saying is b4 the game even comes out it should not be eligible for a 9+ rating because its been done b4 no matter how good or fun it is..

When a person makes a post everyone is ok, but when a mod makes one theres always those sad people that go quotes them, asking questions trying to correct them ... sad. Just a mod

Nintendo is bad, always making the same game.IamNotReal_

I was not expecting a whole new game, I was expecting whole new surprises, which werent shown and/or made in this game.

I rather save a 9.5 score for a game that makes me 'OMG i didnt know that was possible', or 'OMG how did u come up with this?'

Hope that clears things up a bit.

[QUOTE="TNOFTG"]The core gameplay of any fighter in any series usually stays the same.Taalon

It was more of a response to the title than the specifics.

Anyways, the same could be said about any fighter, no point in arguing it.

[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="TNOFTG"]The core gameplay of any fighter in any series usually stays the same.TNOFTG

It was more of a response to the title than the specifics.

Anyways, the same could be said about any fighter, no point in arguing it.

Indeed, Brawl has tried very hard to evolve the gameplay more than most fighters do, with its level editor, online, deeper story mode, recording features and VC demos. It's still basically the same gameplay, but they're certainly tacked on a lot of extra stuff that you wouldn't expect from most fighting game sequels. That's probably why it got AAA if you ask me.

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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="TNOFTG"]The core gameplay of any fighter in any series usually stays the same.chutup

It was more of a response to the title than the specifics.

Anyways, the same could be said about any fighter, no point in arguing it.

Indeed, Brawl has tried very hard to evolve the gameplay more than most fighters do, with its level editor, online, deeper story mode, recording features and VC demos. It's still basically the same gameplay, but they're certainly tacked on a lot of extra stuff that you wouldn't expect from most fighting game sequels. That's probably why it got AAA if you ask me.

Exactly. Look at how much content is in Brawl comapred to other fighting games :) and it's only the 3rd in the Series.

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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="TNOFTG"]The core gameplay of any fighter in any series usually stays the same.chutup

It was more of a response to the title than the specifics.

Anyways, the same could be said about any fighter, no point in arguing it.

Indeed, Brawl has tried very hard to evolve the gameplay more than most fighters do, with its level editor, online, deeper story mode, recording features and VC demos. It's still basically the same gameplay, but they're certainly tacked on a lot of extra stuff that you wouldn't expect from most fighting game sequels. That's probably why it got AAA if you ask me.

Sure... it has tried to evolve. However, a 9.5? C'mon.

Level Editor: Been done by other games (halo3)

Online: Lets not even talk bout it

Deeper Story Mode: Deeper = better? Dont think so D;

Recording Features = Been Done before too

Sure, its got a LOT of new features, but none of them are new to the gaming industry, so i think a 9.5 is just too much

for a game thats not doing anything new. In my opinion, this game deserves 8.7-9. Why? Because in one hand its a great game and its a lot of fun. But in the other, its just an upgrade from SBM mixed with some next gen features (online, lvl editor)

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[QUOTE="Taalon"][QUOTE="TNOFTG"]The core gameplay of any fighter in any series usually stays the same.chutup

It was more of a response to the title than the specifics.

Anyways, the same could be said about any fighter, no point in arguing it.

Indeed, Brawl has tried very hard to evolve the gameplay more than most fighters do, with its level editor, online, deeper story mode, recording features and VC demos. It's still basically the same gameplay, but they're certainly tacked on a lot of extra stuff that you wouldn't expect from most fighting game sequels. That's probably why it got AAA if you ask me.

They updated all of the fighters moves and character models. :|

There are new items that change the core gameplay. And new scenario's. What do you expect from a fighter? It's a good sequel.

You think the high scores are due to some devious conspiracy theory?cakeorrdeath

I don't.

But I do believe the high Nintendo scores are due to the little Nintendo fanboy that lives in all of us. And it lives much larger in reviewers and those who are into games in a huge way. I think the Nintendo nostalgia factor plays a HUGE roll in how people respond to these games.

Don't get me wrong, that says a lot about these IP's. People have enjoyed them so much on previous consoles that seeing an updated version on their now-gen console is very exciting. I get it.

What I don't get is the Wii owners taking these scores and wearing them like a hat. Like because the games score high they somehow equal the high rated games on PS3, PC, and PS3. Not that they can't be just as fun. Just that the other three get knocked on score for technical issues the Wii doesn't even attempt. Can't call that even.

We all knew Brawl was not going to be a "completely new game". There's no getting through to this guy. He's obviously going to rant until people agree with him which I'm not going to do. So don't feed the fire guys. Just leave this thread to die. 3rd_child

So you agree with the TC but say he's rambling.