Wow, consoles have surely dumbed down the Deus Ex series

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#1 Masterrace1
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or ruined? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFe8hRy42o Horrible gameplay. Even JC Denton can't escape it.
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First post and this is the best you can come up with?mrmusicman247
Hmm, it may not be the first if you know what I mean...
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#4 Mr_Caboose007
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I'm sure Console Players are enjoying DE:HR, it does seem like an awesome game on all platforms. :)

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#5 LegatoSkyheart
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I thought it was a funny joke.

I get what you're trying to say when the Regenerating Health part came up.

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#6 Masterrace1
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First post and this is the best you can come up with?mrmusicman247
I just want my goddamn dlc!
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#7 NoodleFighter
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Before anyone lashes at the PC community take a look at his username :roll:

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#9 razgriz_101
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thing is when you go back to the original its heavily dated and its far from being dumbed down.

aint even that good a trollin :P

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#10 Lto_thaG
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Master race....
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#11 N30F3N1X
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Yeah, they have.

Still, I prefer *this* kind of dumbing down rather than what has been done for the Dragon Age, Crysis or Elder Scrolls franchises. Human Revolution is still a great game although a PC lead design would have unarguably yielded much better results.

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#12 razgriz_101
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Yeah, they have.

Still, I prefer *this* kind of dumbing down rather than what has been done for the Dragon Age, Crysis or Elder Scrolls franchises. Human Revolution is still a great game although a PC lead design would have unarguably yielded much better results.

N30F3N1X

thing is it was lead primarily on PC was it not? the UI's were designed for the PC seprately and from what i hear its fairly optimized and runs well on the PC.

Deus Ex HR keeps all the core bits of Deus ex (what i remember) and streamlines some aspects which by nowadays standards are seen as outright archaic.

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#13 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Indeed. And just like TES, Fallout, Mass Effect, etc, it's better because of it.

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#14 super600  Moderator
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Lol! Is this a joke thread?Lol! At TC's username anway.

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#15 N30F3N1X
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Indeed. And just like TES, Fallout, Mass Effect, etc, it's better because of it.

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Except for ME, no way in hell ;)

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#16 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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Except for ME, no way in hell ;)N30F3N1X
Oblivion is the best TES game, and Fallout 3 is the best Fallout . So yes.
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]Except for ME, no way in hell ;)IronBass
Oblivion is the best TES game, and Fallout 3 is the best Fallout . So yes.

Oblivion and Fallout 3 are both the worst games in the series put in their time context. And are both absolutely horrible game. So no.

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So far it's my GOTY, and i'm playing it on the PS3.

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Oblivion and Fallout 3 are both the worst games in the series put in their time context. And are both absolutely horrible game. So no.N30F3N1X
Opinion noted. I don't base my judgement on games based on what you think, though, but on what I think :!: So unless you have a better argument than your own opinion to imply that mine is wrong, I'm going to stand by my previous statement.
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#20 commonfate
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Console gaming should be banned the way it is hurting ma PC :evil:

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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]Oblivion and Fallout 3 are both the worst games in the series put in their time context. And are both absolutely horrible game. So no.IronBass
Opinion noted. I don't base my judgement on games based on what you think, though, but on what I think :!: So unless you have a better argument than your own opinion to imply that mine is wrong, I'm going to stand by my previous statement.

I'm gonna copy this for future use.Really,it's so useful.
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TC reminds me of someone anyway.

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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]Oblivion and Fallout 3 are both the worst games in the series put in their time context. And are both absolutely horrible game. So no.IronBass
Opinion noted. I don't base my judgement on games based on what you think, though, but on what I think :!: So unless you have a better argument than your own opinion to imply that mine is wrong, I'm going to stand by my previous statement.

You should actually base what you like off of my opinion. And my opinion dictates that Fallout 3 and Oblivion were fantastic games

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#24 N30F3N1X
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Opinion noted. I don't base my judgement on games based on what you think, though, but on what I think :!: So unless you have a better argument than your own opinion to imply that mine is wrong, I'm going to stand by my previous statement.IronBass

*sigh*

What has this generation done to our standards :roll: ...

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#25 Masterrace1
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TC reminds me of someone anyway.

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#26 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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What has this generation done to our standards :roll: ...N30F3N1X

With your standards? No idea.

With mine? Well, they're perfectly fine, since I'm having a lot of fun this gen, and having fun with the games I play is all matters to me :D

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#27 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="N30F3N1X"]

Yeah, they have.

Still, I prefer *this* kind of dumbing down rather than what has been done for the Dragon Age, Crysis or Elder Scrolls franchises. Human Revolution is still a great game although a PC lead design would have unarguably yielded much better results.

razgriz_101

thing is it was lead primarily on PC was it not? the UI's were designed for the PC seprately and from what i hear its fairly optimized and runs well on the PC.

Deus Ex HR keeps all the core bits of Deus ex (what i remember) and streamlines some aspects which by nowadays standards are seen as outright archaic.

Lead platform was 360

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#28 Leejjohno
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Yeah, they have.

Still, I prefer *this* kind of dumbing down rather than what has been done for the Dragon Age, Crysis or Elder Scrolls franchises. Human Revolution is still a great game although a PC lead design would have unarguably yielded much better results.

N30F3N1X

And sold a lot less... it would have been unappealing to most gamers.

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[QUOTE="super600"]

TC reminds me of someone anyway.

Masterrace1

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Okay then TC!Do you have a hatred for casual games or consolized games?

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#30 kaealy
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Wait, I'm pretty sure that you can remove the icons for stealth kills, objective and item high lights etc in Human Revolution.

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#31 Jankarcop
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Indeed. And just like TES, Fallout, Mass Effect, etc, it's better because of it.

IronBass

and all better on PC ;)

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when you try to make a complex game on more than 2 systems at the same time, it will 90% fail.

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#33 commonfate
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

Indeed. And just like TES, Fallout, Mass Effect, etc, it's better because of it.

Jankarcop

and all better on PC ;)

Doesn't change the fact that console gaming has done more to improve PC gaming than elitists like to admit.

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#34 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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and all better on PC ;)Jankarcop
Indeed. Not that it matters, though, since they're still basically the same game I can play on a much cheaper console, so that's a plus for me.
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[QUOTE="Jankarcop"]and all better on PC ;)IronBass
Not that it matters, though,

People fight over 3 fps here when it comes to consoles. You're at the wrong forums to say considerably bigger differences don't matter.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"] Opinion noted. I don't base my judgement on games based on what you think, though, but on what I think :!: So unless you have a better argument than your own opinion to imply that mine is wrong, I'm going to stand by my previous statement.N30F3N1X

*sigh*

What has this generation done to our standards :roll: ...

It's ok for developers to make games less complex and dumb down elements..just along as the make it fun so it can win many GOTY awards and become "cool" ^^ That is where this industry is heading.
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#37 WarTornRuston
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All this time I thought human programmers were creating games and putting them on different electroninc devices. I was not aware the 360, and PS3 made the games themselves without human involvement. Wow! They really can do everything.

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#38 nameless12345
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So consoles are people with their own minds, financial backgrounds and business decisions now?

Blaming objects for the problems of today's gaming industry are we?

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#39 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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People fight over 3 fps here when it comes to consoles. You're at the wrong forums to say considerably bigger differences don't matter.Jankarcop

This is a forum in which we are supposed to express our personal opinions. Just because some people care about minor differences it doesn't mean I'm the wrong place for not caring. After all, forums are based on people having different opinions :!:

So no, I'm not in the wrong forum, and I stand by previous statement.

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It's ok for developers to make games less complex and dumb down elements..just along as they make it funso it can win many GOTY awards and become "cool" ^^ That is where this industry is heading.lawlessx

Exactly! That's exactly what makes this gen an awesome one :D

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#41 skrat_01
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Amazing flamebait post OP. The video is funny, but it's incorrect in a variety of ways - it's well done tongue in cheek humour. DE:HR is a great game quite frankly, and it's amazing it turned out as well as it has. Saying that as someone who was pretty damn apprehensive about it, and a huge fan of the first.
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#42 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"] It's ok for developers to make games less complex and dumb down elements..just along as they make it funso it can win many GOTY awards and become "cool" ^^ That is where this industry is heading.IronBass

Exactly! That's exactly what makes this gen an awesome one :D

because it has more games that require less brain power?....whatever floats your boat.
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because it has more games that require less brain power?....whatever floats your boat.lawlessx
No, because developers are focusing their efforts in making a game fun (as you said), and fun is the most important part of gaming ^_^
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or ruined? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoFe8hRy42o Horrible gameplay. Even JC Denton can't escape it.Masterrace1

I guess somone was on PC gamer earlier today and felt the need to make a new account to troll on instead of playing and enjoying DEUS EX: HR like everybody else, and then writing to EIDOS about serious changes they could make for the next one. But you won't because your full of ****

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqJrYQJGxRI&feature=related

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#45 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="IronBass"] Oblivion is the best TES game, and Fallout 3 is the best Fallout . So yes.

I wish that was true, but at least we have the substantially better and more Fallout-y New Vegas. Oblivion was an utter mess of a game though, it didn't do anything particularly well. However I have to give these games massive credit for keeping the spirit of complex games alive, in an era of far more strict, focused games - even Mass Effect being a new breed of them. Not to say this is an overwhelmingly negative thing of course.
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#46 xOMGITSJASONx
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Deus Ex: Human revolution is GOTY contender.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"] It's ok for developers to make games less complex and dumb down elements..just along as they make it funso it can win many GOTY awards and become "cool" ^^ That is where this industry is heading.lawlessx

Exactly! That's exactly what makes this gen an awesome one :D

because it has more games that require less brain power?....whatever floats your boat.

Aside from some WRPGs, FPS and MMOs, I really don't understand the idea that games are dumbed down this gen :?

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]because it has more games that require less brain power?....whatever floats your boat.IronBass
No, because developers are focusing their efforts in making a game fun (as you said), and fun is the most important part of gaming ^_^

Well i find games that challenge the gamer and require abit of planning ahead of time fun ^_^
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#49 skrat_01
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Yeah, they have.

Still, I prefer *this* kind of dumbing down rather than what has been done for the Dragon Age, Crysis or Elder Scrolls franchises. Human Revolution is still a great game although a PC lead design would have unarguably yielded much better results.

N30F3N1X
Consider it this way. Eidos and SE were investing millions into a large project that's *infinitely more complex than the average game, and juggling trying to tap into the current mainstream 'core' market, as well as keep to the spirit of Deus Ex. Honestly it's unbelievable the game turned out as it has, even if it has its quibbles. Imagine if it was like X-Com.
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Well i find games that challenge the gamer and require abit of planning ahead of time fun ^_^lawlessx
Great! So I assume you're loving this generation as much as I am :D