WoW down to 9.6 million subscribers as of December 31st, 2012

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#1 princeofshapeir
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It's the end of the world!!!! 

 Activision Blizzard's press release states that World of Warcraft is down to 9.6 million subscribers as of December 31, 2012. This is lower than the amount of subscribers from the "over 10 million" announced for Q3 2012. A few other interesting points:

  • Mists of Pandaria was the #3 best-selling PC game at retail.
  • Diablo III was the #1 best-selling PC game at retail, breaking PC-game sales records with more than 12 million copies sold worldwide through December 31, 2012. 

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Some takeaways:

  • Total of ~500k subscriber loss, albeit most of them are from China
  • Probably has to do with the annual passes for Diablo 3's preorder expiring
  • MoP is the least successful expansion to date commercially (each of the previous WoW expansions have been the fastest-selling PC games at retail, with the successor setting a new record)
  • If I remember, this still isn't WoW's lowest dip in subscribers since its pinnacle in the middle of WOTLK; it was at its lowest around the middle of Cataclysm (2011)

Pretty interesting. Can't say I'm entirely surprised, though; MoP definitely isn't a bad expansion at all (many players view it as the best since Burning Crusade, myself included) and content definitely isn't lacking, but MoP's release came around the release of Guild Wars 2. The expansion also wasn't as critically or commercially successful as its predecessors. I will say that 9.6 million is still more than enough subscribers to keep WoW as the eight-year reigning king of the MMO industry, and it doesn't seem like its rate of "decline" (yes, I acknowledge the game is approaching its end, and Blizzard does too; the next two expansions will likely be the last) is anything significant. 

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#2 Fizzman
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WoW died right before Wrath came out.  Blizzard caved and completely casualized it.  

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#3 princeofshapeir
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WoW died right before Wrath came out.  Blizzard caved and completely casualized it.  

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WoW is dead!!!! 9.6 million subs = dead!!!!
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#4 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]

WoW died right before Wrath came out.  Blizzard caved and completely casualized it.  

princeofshapeir
WoW is dead!!!! 9.6 million subs = dead!!!!

He's totally talking about the number of subs.
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#5 Arach666
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WoW could lose half of that and still be one of the most played games in the world,and the fact that it has around 10M subscribers after almost 9 years it´s pretty incredible,no other game ever came close to that.
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#6 LegatoSkyheart
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thread broke before it even became a thread. (well it WAS broken.)

An End of an Era when WoW dies.

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#7 DrTrafalgarLaw
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9.6 million times a monthly fee

PC gaming still stuck in MMOs I see...

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#8 campzor
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DOOOMED! DOOOOOOMED I TELL YA
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How will Blizzard makes ends meet? Major layoffs incoming.

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#10 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="Fizzman"]

WoW died right before Wrath came out.  Blizzard caved and completely casualized it.  

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WoW is dead!!!! 9.6 million subs = dead!!!!

He's totally talking about the number of subs.

My definition of WoW dying would be it hemmorhaging subs. After all, the greatest indicator of an MMO's success is subscriber base, and losing a significant amount of subscribers quickly is an indication you're dying. You can argue about the quality of content since BC but those will ultimately be subjective arguments. I've been playing since the end of Vanilla and my personal opinion is MoP rivals BC as far as endgame content is concerned. Objectively WoW is alive and well.
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  • Total of ~500k subscriber loss, albeit most of them are from China

princeofshapeir

Phew, at least they are chinese. So, what's the exchange rate? 13 chinese humanoids for one white person?

 

 

 

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#12 Chutebox
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9.6 million times a monthly fee

PC gaming still stuck in MMOs I see...

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Stuck?
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#13 princeofshapeir
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]


  • Total of ~500k subscriber loss, albeit most of them are from China

LordQuorthon

Phew, at least they are chinese. So, what's the exchange rate? 13 chinese humanoids for one white person?

 

 

 

I included that because the content restrictions for WoW in China are far different than they are in the U.S. or Europe. WOTLK wasn't released in China for well over two years, and Blizzard has had to switch service providers for the game since then. The Chinese PC gaming industry is also very volatile.
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#14 crimsonman1245
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How much longer does WoW have? At least 5 years?

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#15 LordQuorthon
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I included that because the content restrictions for WoW in China are far different than they are in the U.S. or Europe. WOTLK wasn't released in China for well over two years, and Blizzard has had to switch service providers for the game since then. The Chinese PC gaming industry is also very volatile. princeofshapeir

Thanks for clarifying that. For future references, keep in mind that the Interwebs are full of jerks like me. :)

 

 

 

 

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#16 DrTrafalgarLaw
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

9.6 million times a monthly fee

PC gaming still stuck in MMOs I see...

Chutebox
Stuck?

More like jammed. MMO 101: How to separate fools from their money
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#17 Ly_the_Fairy
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Unfortunately the game isn't for me anymore.

It was the greatest gaming experience ever from Vanilla to TBC, but the later expansions have gradually just gotten worse and worse.

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#18 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"]

9.6 million times a monthly fee

PC gaming still stuck in MMOs I see...

DrTrafalgarLaw
Stuck?

More like jammed. MMO 101: How to separate fools from their money

4.5/10
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#19 princeofshapeir
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How much longer does WoW have? At least 5 years?

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At most five years I'd say.
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#20 Cloud567kar
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Meh, it it will go back up when the next patch comes out. It always happens. People get bored inbetween patches and quit till the next one comes out.

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#21 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="DrTrafalgarLaw"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Stuck?Silverbond
More like jammed. MMO 101: How to separate fools from their money

4.5/10

Generous of you

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#22 faizan_faizan
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I used to play this a lot, Now, There are just better MMOs than this.
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#23 jessejay420
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lets be honest,9.6million is a lot of subscribers.
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#24 Ly_the_Fairy
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Meh, it it will go back up when the next patch comes out. It always happens. People get bored inbetween patches and quit till the next one comes out.

Cloud567kar

That's a huge problem with the game.

I think it was in Wrath of the Lich King when Blizz actually had their first quarter of "lost subscriptions". Prior to that expansion the subscription base for WoW ALWAYS went up quarter to quarter.

Wrath, Cataclysm, and Mists are the only expansions to see these periodic drops because the game is no longer being designed for the dedicated fan, but just the recreational gamer who wants something to do every few months.

It hurts the game in the long run because they are finding it much harder to get a guaranteed $15 a month from the fans they have left. 

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#25 trollop_scat
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It KILLS me that Diablo 3 is the #1 selling game of all time. Hurts my soul.

Diablo 2 is arguably the best game ever, and D3 is such a pile of sh!t. I hope you die horribly, Jay Wilson. HORRIBLY!!!

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#26 BrunoBRS
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that's... still an impressive money; i mean number. lol
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I'm surprised so many people are still playing that trash, TBH

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#28 meatgrinderz
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]


  • Total of ~500k subscriber loss, albeit most of them are from China

LordQuorthon

Phew, at least they are chinese. So, what's the exchange rate? 13 chinese humanoids for one white person?

 

 

 

ROFL...
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#29 Cloud567kar
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I'm surprised so many people are still playing that trash, TBH

meatgrinderz

Im not suprised so many people are still playing it.

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#30 HaloPimp978
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Haven't played WoW in a few years it just wasn't fun to me anymore.

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#32 jessejay420
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[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]


  • Total of ~500k subscriber loss, albeit most of them are from China

LordQuorthon

Phew, at least they are chinese. So, what's the exchange rate? 13 chinese humanoids for one white person?

 

 

 

:lol:
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#33 Pittfan666
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Quit due to my toons being on a server with an abysmal population problem that Blizzard still hasn't fixed. Alliance and horde literally only had one decent raiding guild each. Doesn't help that the raids weren't all that difficult and that the changes they made in cata made me dislike the game.
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#34 lamprey263
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so it makes what roughly(?)... 9,600,000 * $15 * 12 = $1,728,000,000.00 ...oh, teh fail :roll: EDIT: I realize that calculation was sloppy and it's probably less considering different subscription rates for different month packages and territory pricing, but they're still making beaucoup money regardless
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#35 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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Being slightly less crazy rich isn't too bad.

That being said, game is stale now. 
 

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so it makes what roughly(?)... 9,600,000 * $15 * 12 = $1,728,000,000.00 ...oh, teh fail :roll: EDIT: I realize that calculation was sloppy and it's probably less considering different subscription rates for different month packages and territory pricing, but they're still making beaucoup money regardlesslamprey263

Yes, we can presume they're still making a lot of money, but losing roughly 400,000 thousand subscribers (give or take) is still a loss. That's about 1/20th of their total amount. Whether or not this is the beginning of the end for the MMO giant is still a mystery, but it does raise some concern. I doubt it though.

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[QUOTE="lamprey263"]so it makes what roughly(?)... 9,600,000 * $15 * 12 = $1,728,000,000.00 ...oh, teh fail :roll: EDIT: I realize that calculation was sloppy and it's probably less considering different subscription rates for different month packages and territory pricing, but they're still making beaucoup money regardlessTheSacredFlame

Yes, we can presume they're still making a lot of money, but losing roughly 400,000 thousand subscribers (give or take) is still a loss. That's about 1/20th of their total amount. Whether or not this is the beginning of the end for the MMO giant is still a mystery, but it does raise some concern. I doubt it though.

Wasn´t the subscriber number lower just before MoP came out? Pretty sure there were threads about that last year and the moment MoP came out it went well over 10M again,when the next one comes it will be the same,the only way WoW will ever die is when Blizzard gives up on it,and that will take at least another decade to be even close to happening.
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#38 Truth_Hurts_U
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Good news! Glad the panda expansion failed.

Blizzard's laziness is finally catching up to them.

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#39 ChubbyGuy40
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Sad there still isn't a single MMO that is nearly as good as WoW. Hopefully FF14:ARR or ArcheAge will be the savior MMOs need.

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#40 Badosh
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Still an amazing game, so.
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#41 Heil68
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They are still making serious money.
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#42 clyde46
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WoW is up against some series competition from these F2P MMO's. There isnt the draw that WoW had now, the raids are boring and its more of a grindfest that is should be.
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#43 wis3boi
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WoW is up against some series competition from these F2P MMO's. There isnt the draw that WoW had now, the raids are boring and its more of a grindfest that is should be. clyde46

And it's just plain old....a decade old

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#44 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]WoW is up against some series competition from these F2P MMO's. There isnt the draw that WoW had now, the raids are boring and its more of a grindfest that is should be. wis3boi

And it's just plain old....a decade old

And it hasn't aged well either.
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#45 ChubbyGuy40
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And it hasn't aged well either. clyde46

It's still really fun.

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#46 clyde46
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[QUOTE="clyde46"] And it hasn't aged well either. ChubbyGuy40

It's still really fun.

Depends on what you class as fun. When I played, I found it a grindfest and this is coming from someone who likes to grind. Now, before you start jumping down my throat, its my opinion. I've never really got on with WoW but I can see why others play it. My friend is a big WoW nut and his guild always has a spot at Bloodstock Metal Festival every year.
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#47 dramaybaz
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MoP is better than Cata. 9.6 isn't bad, but the game's decline is expected. I always imagines the game going to level 100 before stopping. I hope the next expansion is Emerald Dream, that we have wanted since vanilla.
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#48 MLBknights58
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9.6 million subs ONLY?

OH GOD IT's TOTALLY DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooo

 

/sarcasm.

 

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#49 StrongBlackVine
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We should discuss WoW more. WoW losers are what I think of when I see PC gamer.

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#50 CanYouDiglt
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I stopped playing about 4 months ago. I personally think the game has gone down hill in so many ways.