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#1 my_name_is_ron
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i was in hmv today and there was a running gameplay footage demo of metal gear solid 4 running on their ps3 display. i stood and watched for a while and thought it was incredibly ugly! snake was based in a kind of sandy rundown concrete place and whenever anything moved it looked all blocky like it was back on ps1 (although slightly sharper of course). it may have been an intentional sandy effect but i thought it looked awful. the only redeeming feature i saw was snakes face which looked really good close up - especially the moustache - but i thought the rest of it looked really ugly. naturally i don't judge a game on its graphics but since the mgs games on ps2 were graphical marvels i was really hoping for something spectacular looking on ps3. it may have also just been a particularly graphically dull part of the game that i watched but i really hope konami make the graphics look better than i thought they looked
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#2 revolution2k6
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*looks at your sig* yup... your credible alright.
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#3 Mordred19
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textures = not the best

anti-aliasing = very good, no jaggies

enviorments = large, with battles playing out around the player

but no, let's complain about textures

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#4 sexy_chimp
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That's because the developers aren't idiots. They said it themselves that they aren't focusing on the graphics and are focusing on actually making the game better.
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#5 my_name_is_ron
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*looks at your sig* yup... your credible alright.revolution2k6

lol, classic system wars.

i'm actually telling you my thoughts on what i've seen. i'm still going to get the game and was hoping some users in the know could tell me why it looked so bad. obviously when i say looked bad it's all relative. it doesn't look like a ps1 game, it just reminds me of ps1 games when the people go all blocky when they move.

anyway, i#'m not trying to flamebait

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#7 amorbis1001
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I remembered when MGS4 looked better than GeOW, but now it doesnt even look close to as good. could a cow explain why.
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#8 Bread_or_Decide
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I've seen the gameplay in HD on my PS3.

You are wrong. 100% wrong.

Dead wrong.

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#9 my_name_is_ron
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Halo 3 is the ugliest shooter I've seen.

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good job this thread isn't about xbox shooters then...

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#10 CONSOLE_KING
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i love the way ps3 fans have no good come backs apart from it looks good on hd.....ow dear.....
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#11 my_name_is_ron
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I've seen the gameplay in HD on my PS3.

You are wrong. 100% wrong.

Dead wrong.

Bread_or_Decide

can you download videos on psn? i might get some and prove myself wrong (thankly)

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#12 ejstrup
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I remembered when MGS4 looked better than GeOW, but now it doesnt even look close to as good. could a cow explain why.amorbis1001

gameplay and story is about a million times better though

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#13 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I've seen the gameplay in HD on my PS3.

You are wrong. 100% wrong.

Dead wrong.

my_name_is_ron

can you download videos on psn? i might get some and prove myself wrong (thankly)

Theirs a handful of MGS4 videos. Both gameplay and cinematic footage. They look good and your seeing them as they are meant to be seen.

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#14 donnygorgas
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so wrong

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#15 AgentA-Mi6
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Yeah..., The masterchief's visor makes it look ugly for some reason.
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#16 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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I am now officially convinced. If there was a law passed where the only way you could bash Sony or the PS3 was to first jump off a building to your death - lemmings would do it.
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#17 amorbis1001
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[QUOTE="amorbis1001"]I remembered when MGS4 looked better than GeOW, but now it doesnt even look close to as good. could a cow explain why.ejstrup

gameplay and story is about a million times better though

I'd give you story being better but not gameplay.

and you havent answered my question, MGS4 either got a downgrade or GeOW got a major upgrade, cuz I remembered the fist video of MGS4 and I was like ZOMG it looks so good and I compared it with GeOW and was like GeOW couldn't compare, but now it is the other way round.

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#18 Douja555
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Textures are down right horrific.
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#19 clone01
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i'd heard that the character animations were a bit jerky...i'm sure they'll polish that out, though.
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#20 -Spock-
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I remembered when MGS4 looked better than GeOW, but now it doesnt even look close to as good. could a cow explain why.amorbis1001

They're still very comparable in my opinion. Gears of War just came a very long way in the final few months of development, once Epic started running the game on all three of the Xbox 360's cores.

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#21 my_name_is_ron
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[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I've seen the gameplay in HD on my PS3.

You are wrong. 100% wrong.

Dead wrong.

Bread_or_Decide

can you download videos on psn? i might get some and prove myself wrong (thankly)

Theirs a handful of MGS4 videos. Both gameplay and cinematic footage. They look good and your seeing them as they are meant to be seen.

when i was watching it in the shop it did look kind of like someone had filmed it off a tv. do you know what i mean? that might be what gave it the grainy look

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#22 Bread_or_Decide
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i love the way ps3 fans have no good come backs apart from it looks good on hd.....ow dear.....CONSOLE_KING

The footage speaks for itself. No one in their right minds would hate on MGS4's graphics.

Choose your battles wisely. This is one you don't fight.

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#23 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I've seen the gameplay in HD on my PS3.

You are wrong. 100% wrong.

Dead wrong.

my_name_is_ron

can you download videos on psn? i might get some and prove myself wrong (thankly)

Theirs a handful of MGS4 videos. Both gameplay and cinematic footage. They look good and your seeing them as they are meant to be seen.

when i was watching it in the shop it did look kind of like someone had filmed it off a tv. do you know what i mean? that might be what gave it the grainy look

That could be it. Have you seen the footage online? gametrailers has lots of footage in HD as well.

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[QUOTE="revolution2k6"]*looks at your sig* yup... your credible alright.my_name_is_ron

lol, classic system wars.

i'm actually telling you my thoughts on what i've seen. i'm still going to get the game and was hoping some users in the know could tell me why it looked so bad. obviously when i say looked bad it's all relative. it doesn't look like a ps1 game, it just reminds me of ps1 games when the people go all blocky when they move.

anyway, i#'m not trying to flamebait

Heh. If you just "wanted to know" because you had some intellectual curiosity about it, you could have asked it in the MGS forums or the PS3 forums. Instead you asked it in System Wars. Now you say you don't want flames? Get a clue sparky.

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#25 JiveT
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MGS4 was chugging hard at e for everyone and the gameplay looked horrible no coincidence they announced another big delay soon after
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#26 thegame1980
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I am now officially convinced. If there was a law passed where the only way you could bash Sony or the PS3 was to first jump off a building to your death - lemmings would do it. ZIMdoom

You know I hear somethingl ike cows were gonna start pulling their eyes out to bash the 360 since the RROD phase is pretty much over with the newer consoles and cows still seem to hang onto that one like it was their beloved ROSEBUD!

Could all be internet mumbo jumbo though :)

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#27 my_name_is_ron
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[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]

[QUOTE="revolution2k6"]*looks at your sig* yup... your credible alright.D_Znuhtz

lol, classic system wars.

i'm actually telling you my thoughts on what i've seen. i'm still going to get the game and was hoping some users in the know could tell me why it looked so bad. obviously when i say looked bad it's all relative. it doesn't look like a ps1 game, it just reminds me of ps1 games when the people go all blocky when they move.

anyway, i#'m not trying to flamebait

Heh. If you just "wanted to know" because you had some intellectual curiosity about it, you could have asked it in the MGS forums or the PS3 forums. Instead you asked it in System Wars. Now you say you don't want flames? Get a clue sparky.

the reason i asked in here was simply because most of the time when you ask a question regarding a negative observation about a game on that games board you get modded for it. also it's fun to watch fanboys like you overreact

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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]I am now officially convinced. If there was a law passed where the only way you could bash Sony or the PS3 was to first jump off a building to your death - lemmings would do it. thegame1980

You know I hear somethingl ike cows were gonna start pulling their eyes out to bash the 360 since the RROD phase is pretty much over with the newer consoles and cows still seem to hang onto that one like it was their beloved ROSEBUD!

Could all be internet mumbo jumbo though :)

Could I get a link that says the RROD is over?

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#30 DaysAirlines
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Looks phenomenal to me. Anyone else in agreement?
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#31 BioShockOwnz
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I think it looks good. Uncharted looks better, but MGS4 isn't out yet, so I'll reserve judgment.
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#32 Liquid-GEAR
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Looks phenomenal to me. Anyone else in agreement?DaysAirlines
I am.
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#33 Lemmywinks_360
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Looks great to me. the reason im getting a ps3 when it comes out.
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#34 H3llstrike
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textures = not the best

anti-aliasing = very good, no jaggies

enviorments = large, with battles playing out around the player

but no, let's complain about textures

Mordred19
That's the new trend nowadays with fanboy's not calling the tc a fanboy but all they do is nitpick on little stupid things.I hope to God there is no screen tearing cause it will be world war three here if so after the bashing ME has received.I would love to see these kids get in the old school Star Wars Xwing sim arcade game, you know when games where fun and they where about having fun I know how stupid you old man:lol:
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#35 my_name_is_ron
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just watched the same video they had in the shop and it does look better than it did at lunchtime. there's still nothing greatly impressive though, btu i think that's just because you're in a sandy concrete jungle so it's all grey and pale yellow, like how gears of war was all grey
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#36 H3llstrike
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I am now officially convinced. If there was a law passed where the only way you could bash Sony or the PS3 was to first jump off a building to your death - lemmings would do it. ZIMdoom
Wow insults. It took lots-o-brain power to insult huh?
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]I am now officially convinced. If there was a law passed where the only way you could bash Sony or the PS3 was to first jump off a building to your death - lemmings would do it. H3llstrike
Wow insults. It took lots-o-brain power to insult huh?

he aint too far from the truth ya know..
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#38 Bread_or_Decide
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MGS4 was chugging hard at e for everyone and the gameplay looked horrible no coincidence they announced another big delay soon afterJiveT

This is how you lose all credibility in system wars.

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#39 JiveT
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[QUOTE="JiveT"]MGS4 was chugging hard at e for everyone and the gameplay looked horrible no coincidence they announced another big delay soon afterBread_or_Decide

This is how you lose all credibility in system wars.

Oh they delayed it because it was running so smooth and the gameplay looked so polish? Stop worshipping at the altar of this game. They have changed things up drastically and it looks like a mess. The graphics look pretty sharp its the GAME itself that looks a mess.

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#40 my_name_is_ron
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

[QUOTE="JiveT"]MGS4 was chugging hard at e for everyone and the gameplay looked horrible no coincidence they announced another big delay soon afterJiveT

This is how you lose all credibility in system wars.

Oh they delayed it because it was running so smooth and the gameplay looked so polish? Stop worshipping at the altar of this game. They have changed things up drastically and it looks like a mess. The graphics look pretty sharp its the GAME itself that looks a mess.

how is gameplay polish? is gta australian?

there was a nice blurry effect when you zoomed in with your binoculars in the demo. my faith in mgs 4 has been restored

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#41 ragrdoll21
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Ok.. start a blog. SW needs proof, vedio or something.We PS3 owns have the HD video of the demo on PSN.The game looks awsome, the store you were @ could've been playing the 2005 trailer?..... ;)

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#42 Yodas_Boy
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MGS4 looks awesome, you should all go debate about something else.
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#43 ragrdoll21
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MGS4 was chugging hard at e for everyone and the gameplay looked horrible no coincidence they announced another big delay soon afterJiveT
Soooooo... you played it?Because EVERY site said it looked,ran and played spectacularly!Pick a site any site...hell go to a xbox site, they said the same thing!
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#44 mattyomo99
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*looks at your sig* yup... your credible alright.revolution2k6

thats whati did to

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#45 my_name_is_ron
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Ok.. start a blog. SW needs proof, vedio or something.We PS3 owns have the HD video of the demo on PSN.The game looks awsome, the store you were @ could've been playing the 2005 trailer?..... ;)

ragrdoll21

i've just downloaded the same video they were showing and it does look better now that i'm watching it again. still, the surroundings i think are all very plain. but i guess you don't get colourful, active vistas in a warzone

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#46 mastamo
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

I've seen the gameplay in HD on my PS3.

You are wrong. 100% wrong.

Dead wrong.

my_name_is_ron

can you download videos on psn? i might get some and prove myself wrong (thankly)

I agree with Bread_or_Decide. You're completely wrong. The graphics are amazing. Download it on PSN. You'll see.

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#47 sPOON_f33dU
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Then stop looking in the mirror.
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#48 Heil68
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No way! From what clips, trailers and demos I've seen it looks great!
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#49 Riverwolf007
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You can't be serious, I'm no MGS fan but even I can't find anything of substance to gripe about and for me thats saying something.

I'm going to actually play this MGS because it's been the first one I have any interest in since the PS1 days.

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#50 inertk
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Since Gears was brought up on the first page.

Gears of War has better textures IMO.

That is all. Just about everything else I'd give to MGS. Actually contrast, I'd give to Gears but that's something that can easily be fixed.