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lol, then why did GG even bother to spend 40 million bucks on one game?
btw, I'm talking to Supermechakirt.
.... honestly you can't think halo 3 is that big to strike fear into developers to prolong a game because its gonna be release in the same season as the games they have.
I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
colmusterd28
yep sales, but deep down in your stomach you'll know that KZ2 is the better one :)
[QUOTE="Cyberfairy"]lol, then why did GG even bother to spend 40 million bucks on one game?supermechakirby
who is GG
gg = guerilla games
and I was talking to you but I forgot to quote.
I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
colmusterd28
The only reason why it was high because it hype like crazy. I can say the same about killzone. It was hyped really crazy and even though it got a bad score it still sold a lot.
[This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]fistoflight
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supermechakirt said that fps-develepors are afraid of halo, but then I questioned him with "then why did guerilla even spend 40 million in one game" meaning why even bother when halo 3 will "win"? maybe because...umm..they're not scared?
btw, you're reply had nothing to do with my text, sorry :(
EDIT: so even you knew you're text was flawed? :P
in sales halo 3 will sale more but that doesn't mean it's an amazing game. halo CE was great and deserved all the praise it got. halo 2 eh played pretty much like CE with better slightly better graphics. just cause halo sells doesn't mean it automatticaly one of the greatest ever. CE was great 2 was not so i don't see how halo 3 should be treated like godI hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
colmusterd28
wow, I expect this from a PS3 fanboy. UT3 and HAZE aren't coming out because Halo 3 is so popular (i'm not saying its a good game) that they wouldn't be able to pull in as much money if they launched with Halo 3 as if they would if they wait, like they're doing. It is an excuse, Halo has eclipsed games before (Beyond Good and Evil for one). Halo 3 has a massive amount of preorders and when people go to get halo 3 (which they'll be paying at least $60 for) will they really want to get another game? No, $120 is too much to spend on videogames in one day for most people. It is an excuse and if you're too blind to see that with the fancy blindfold fanboyism places on you, you should look into taking a vow of silence because no one likes listening to stuff like this. Reading your post was a waste of my time and anyone else's who read it. Just stop talking about what you don't know.TheBrainSquid
Ok than I am guessing there won't be anymore shooters for the xbox 360 since halo is so mighty that it took away ut3 and haze? Cause that is basically what your saying, and it ain't fan boysim its stating the facts. You guys are using halo 3 again and its so called superiority to reply to me. Come on find something else without halo 3 in it to respond.
The last Halo scored a 7 on PC,if they think the game can match games such as UT then they are heavily mistaken.DualshockinIt scored 7 because it was a 3 year old port, and PC shooters have much higher standards than console shooters.
.... honestly you can't think halo 3 is that big to strike fear into developers to prolong a game because its gonna be release in the same season as the games they have.
fistoflight
Actually, yes.
You have only one chance to release your game. Why would you release it in the same season as a game like Halo3, or MGS4, or KZ2. Those are all going to take priority in the minds and wallets of a lot of gamers no matter what you think. If gamers have a choice between Haze and Halo3, they'll pick Halo 3 and wish they had UT3 to play as well. Just ask yourself this:
would PS3 owners pick Haze or UT3 over MGS if they were released in the same season? I wouldn't
[QUOTE="fistoflight"][This message was deleted at the request of the original poster]Cyberfairy
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supermechakirt said that fps-develepors are afraid of halo, but then I questioned him with "then why did guerilla even spend 40 million in one game" meaning why even bother when halo 3 will "win"? maybe because...umm..they're not scared?
btw, you're reply had nothing to do with my text, sorry :(
EDIT: so even you knew you're text was flawed? :P
yep i didn't get the point of your message till now
[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]The last Halo scored a 7 on PC,if they think the game can match games such as UT then they are heavily mistaken.Zenkuso
killzone 2 on a pc 3 years later with next to no upgrades would get the same buddy don't kid yourself.
Good thing KillZone will always be a Playstation game then,can't say the same for Halo now.[QUOTE="Dualshockin"]The last Halo scored a 7 on PC,if they think the game can match games such as UT then they are heavily mistaken._S0LID_SNAKE_It scored 7 because it was a 3 year old port, and PC shooters have much higher standards than console shooters. That's my point,Halo is nothing compared to PC FPS.
Halo 3 will be a good game. But not to the point where lems can legitimately act like they don't care about the awesome announcements for the PS3. Those who own both consoles are in for the biggest treat.
But it's obvious that if you only own one console and that one console isn't the PS3.... well, you'll be the one that ends up missing out for what looks like the rest of 07 AND 08 at this point.
[QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]The last Halo scored a 7 on PC,if they think the game can match games such as UT then they are heavily mistaken.Dualshockin
killzone 2 on a pc 3 years later with next to no upgrades would get the same buddy don't kid yourself.
Good thing KillZone will always be a Playstation game then,can't say the same for Halo now.hell, I for one think Halo should go multiplat so 360 owners can go against PS3 brats and PC guys can destroy them both
[QUOTE="fistoflight"].... honestly you can't think halo 3 is that big to strike fear into developers to prolong a game because its gonna be release in the same season as the games they have.
mtron32
Actually, yes.
You have only one chance to release your game. Why would you release it in the same season as a game like Halo3, or MGS4, or KZ2. Those are all going to take priority in the minds and wallets of a lot of gamers no matter what you think. If gamers have a choice between Haze and Halo3, they'll pick Halo 3 and wish they had UT3 to play as well. Just ask yourself this:
would PS3 owners pick Haze or UT3 over MGS if they were released in the same season? I wouldn't
You make a good point but you can also say that with all the x 360 exclusive games. If they had a choice between halo 3 than other exclusive they will pick halo 3 right? Than why aren't the other games delayed also? And if what your saying is true than the sales for the other x360 games this fall will be low becasue everyone that has a an x360 is gonna play halo 3 only? That's overhyping it I hope you get that message.
[QUOTE="TheBrainSquid"]wow, I expect this from a PS3 fanboy. UT3 and HAZE aren't coming out because Halo 3 is so popular (i'm not saying its a good game) that they wouldn't be able to pull in as much money if they launched with Halo 3 as if they would if they wait, like they're doing. It is an excuse, Halo has eclipsed games before (Beyond Good and Evil for one). Halo 3 has a massive amount of preorders and when people go to get halo 3 (which they'll be paying at least $60 for) will they really want to get another game? No, $120 is too much to spend on videogames in one day for most people. It is an excuse and if you're too blind to see that with the fancy blindfold fanboyism places on you, you should look into taking a vow of silence because no one likes listening to stuff like this. Reading your post was a waste of my time and anyone else's who read it. Just stop talking about what you don't know.fistoflight
Ok than I am guessing there won't be anymore shooters for the xbox 360 since halo is so mighty that it took away ut3 and haze? Cause that is basically what your saying, and it ain't fan boysim its stating the facts. You guys are using halo 3 again and its so called superiority to reply to me. Come on find something else without halo 3 in it to respond.
Do you have Downs Syndrome? I said they wouldn't release them around the same time as Halo. Your facts are biased and it is Halo 3's fault that those games aren't coming out sooner. I hate trying to talk to stupid people. You asked us to explain why Halo 3 would put off those releases and now you're telling us that WE need to come up with another reason when you're the one who thinks there is a different reason than Halo. Just stop talking, you're making yourself look dumber than you probably are.
Halo is overated but no cow should even mention that with this new Killzone over hyping to the max, ive heard like 10 people say its the best game theyve ever seen.FancyKetchup25
Not only cows are saying that but gamespot stated in its article on the e3 preview of killzone 2, that it is one of the best games it hasseen on the ps3 so far. That's saying a lot.
[QUOTE="fistoflight"].... honestly you can't think halo 3 is that big to strike fear into developers to prolong a game because its gonna be release in the same season as the games they have.
mtron32
Actually, yes.
You have only one chance to release your game. Why would you release it in the same season as a game like Halo3, or MGS4, or KZ2. Those are all going to take priority in the minds and wallets of a lot of gamers no matter what you think. If gamers have a choice between Haze and Halo3, they'll pick Halo 3 and wish they had UT3 to play as well. Just ask yourself this:
would PS3 owners pick Haze or UT3 over MGS if they were released in the same season? I wouldn't
Lol, no silly... they'd either buy all 3 or pick 2! If Halo 3 is the only game that 360 owners buy this season, it has to do with there not being much else worth buying. On the other hand, Bioshock and Mass Effect weren't scared of releasing in the same season. And Haze looks leaps & bounds above Bioshock (which I still think will be good due to the innovation of the game).
[QUOTE="Dualshockin"][QUOTE="Zenkuso"][QUOTE="Dualshockin"]The last Halo scored a 7 on PC,if they think the game can match games such as UT then they are heavily mistaken.mtron32
killzone 2 on a pc 3 years later with next to no upgrades would get the same buddy don't kid yourself.
Good thing KillZone will always be a Playstation game then,can't say the same for Halo now.hell, I for one think Halo should go multiplat so 360 owners can go against PS3 brats and PC guys can destroy them both
Halo is already multiplat,I hope you knew that.[QUOTE="fistoflight"][QUOTE="TheBrainSquid"]wow, I expect this from a PS3 fanboy. UT3 and HAZE aren't coming out because Halo 3 is so popular (i'm not saying its a good game) that they wouldn't be able to pull in as much money if they launched with Halo 3 as if they would if they wait, like they're doing. It is an excuse, Halo has eclipsed games before (Beyond Good and Evil for one). Halo 3 has a massive amount of preorders and when people go to get halo 3 (which they'll be paying at least $60 for) will they really want to get another game? No, $120 is too much to spend on videogames in one day for most people. It is an excuse and if you're too blind to see that with the fancy blindfold fanboyism places on you, you should look into taking a vow of silence because no one likes listening to stuff like this. Reading your post was a waste of my time and anyone else's who read it. Just stop talking about what you don't know.TheBrainSquid
Ok than I am guessing there won't be anymore shooters for the xbox 360 since halo is so mighty that it took away ut3 and haze? Cause that is basically what your saying, and it ain't fan boysim its stating the facts. You guys are using halo 3 again and its so called superiority to reply to me. Come on find something else without halo 3 in it to respond.
Do you have Downs Syndrome? I said they wouldn't release them around the same time as Halo. Your facts are biased and it is Halo 3's fault that those games aren't coming out sooner. I hate trying to talk to stupid people. You asked us to explain why Halo 3 would put off those releases and now you're telling us that WE need to come up with another reason when you're the one who thinks there is a different reason than Halo. Just stop talking, you're making yourself look dumber than you probably are.
How about the fact that x360 might lose haze has an exclusive DOES THAT HAVE any thing to with halo in it? I don't think so unless your gonna tell me that every x360 owner is not gonna buy another shooting game because it has halo. The numbe rone used excused for you guys is halo is gonna rule halo is gonna blah blah blah. THis is from overhyping it to much. Just like you stated that it might not be a good game, however I am stating that EVERYONE including yourself is hyping it way to much for it to actually make all these changes.
[QUOTE="fistoflight"][QUOTE="TheBrainSquid"]wow, I expect this from a PS3 fanboy. UT3 and HAZE aren't coming out because Halo 3 is so popular (i'm not saying its a good game) that they wouldn't be able to pull in as much money if they launched with Halo 3 as if they would if they wait, like they're doing. It is an excuse, Halo has eclipsed games before (Beyond Good and Evil for one). Halo 3 has a massive amount of preorders and when people go to get halo 3 (which they'll be paying at least $60 for) will they really want to get another game? No, $120 is too much to spend on videogames in one day for most people. It is an excuse and if you're too blind to see that with the fancy blindfold fanboyism places on you, you should look into taking a vow of silence because no one likes listening to stuff like this. Reading your post was a waste of my time and anyone else's who read it. Just stop talking about what you don't know.TheBrainSquid
Ok than I am guessing there won't be anymore shooters for the xbox 360 since halo is so mighty that it took away ut3 and haze? Cause that is basically what your saying, and it ain't fan boysim its stating the facts. You guys are using halo 3 again and its so called superiority to reply to me. Come on find something else without halo 3 in it to respond.
Do you have Downs Syndrome? I said they wouldn't release them around the same time as Halo. Your facts are biased and it is Halo 3's fault that those games aren't coming out sooner. I hate trying to talk to stupid people. You asked us to explain why Halo 3 would put off those releases and now you're telling us that WE need to come up with another reason when you're the one who thinks there is a different reason than Halo. Just stop talking, you're making yourself look dumber than you probably are.
First of all, the UT series has always been considered better than Halo. Second, if your theory were true then Bioshock & COD4 would not be releasing within the same window as Halo. The truth is that the devs of Haze and UT3 chose to lead on the PS3 b/c they see the potential of the hardware and want to focus on building their games around it. Both games were focused on the PS3 before the launch date for Halo was ever announced you noob.
I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
colmusterd28
2 Halo games didn't save the Xbox from an almost FPS-less console, though (the PS2)
[QUOTE="fistoflight"]is there any comment from you lemmings? come on i am waiting here...
mwa
the saddest part is that your topic was so unoriginal that you had to bump your own thread to get it going
No the sad part is that no lemming could respond to my post in the first place... because its true... I only bump it to see if any lemmings are trying to prove that halo3 deserves the hype that its getting. So far its not period.
[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
ramey70
Using that logic Nsync is more talented than Jimi Hendrix, since they sold more records.
Lol, yep, and also using that logic a Ford is better than a Ferrari...
I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
colmusterd28
NBA Live would sell more than NBA 2k, does that mean Live was always better?
Sales mean nothing.
[QUOTE="colmusterd28"]I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
RickyStackz
NBA Live would sell more than NBA 2k, does that mean Live was always better?
Sales mean nothing.
Like I said before they use halo in everything. If they didn't have halo as an excuse they would have BETTER things to say.
How about the fact that x360 might lose haze has an exclusive DOES THAT HAVE any thing to with halo in it? I don't think so unless your gonna tell me that every x360 owner is not gonna buy another shooting game because it has halo. The numbe rone used excused for you guys is halo is gonna rule halo is gonna blah blah blah. THis is from overhyping it to much. Just like you stated that it might not be a good game, however I am stating that EVERYONE including yourself is hyping it way to much for it to actually make all these changes.
fistoflight
Where are you reading that it might loose HAZE? I've never seen anything stating that it has the possibility of loosing it. And once again you're not listening to me; do I have to scream what I say in your face to get an idea through your thick skull? People are going to want Halo. Its the one of the most popular franchises in video game history. When this game launches that is what the majority of 360 game sales are going to be for a few weeks. Are you staying with me? HAZE and UT3 would be overshadowed by Halo 3 because most people don't want to spend a ton of money on games within a few weeks (Getting all three would cost at least $180). I'm not saying Halo is going to rule, I'm saying that its popular. To be honest, when people say stuff like that it sounds like they're saying blah, blah, blah to me too. But its a matter of popularity, not quality. Its like if you offer a group of children the chance to watch a new Spongebob movie or Pan's Labyrinth... which one do you think they're going to pick? For that group, Spongebob would be more appealing. Same applies to here. If you offered most 360 owners Halo 3 (a franchize that a lot of people bought an xbox for) or UT3, which do you think would be the most popular decision? Besides me and some other sane people, Halo 3 would get picked the most.
I'm not hyping Halo 3, it is a fact that it the franchise has overshadowed games in the past. It is a fact that many people won't buy 3 different games at once. It is a fact that Halo is one of the most popular franchises of all time. And it is a fact that many people who own a 360 would choose Halo 3 over UT3 or HAZE. The popularity of this game is powerful enough to actually make that change because publishers want to get the most profit out of their game. If they go head to head with a franchise with a massive following compared to theirs, they're not going to profit nearly as much as they could if they waited until the storm from the huge seller dies down because people, by the time they release it, will want a new game. Its common sense. Nowhere in any of my posts do I hype it. Hyping the game would be talking about how great it is/looks/is gonna be. My beliefes regarding the Halo series are unflattering. Honestly, don't reply unless you actually read my post this time.
[QUOTE="RickyStackz"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
fistoflight
NBA Live would sell more than NBA 2k, does that mean Live was always better?
Sales mean nothing.
Like I said before they use halo in everything. If they didn't have halo as an excuse they would have BETTER things to say.
Halo3 will outsell UT3 and Haze combined...if you figure the install base of the PS3, every single owner would have to buy them to meet Halo2's sales of 7.89 million, and they would still be close to 2 million short.[QUOTE="fistoflight"]How about the fact that x360 might lose haze has an exclusive DOES THAT HAVE any thing to with halo in it? I don't think so unless your gonna tell me that every x360 owner is not gonna buy another shooting game because it has halo. The numbe rone used excused for you guys is halo is gonna rule halo is gonna blah blah blah. THis is from overhyping it to much. Just like you stated that it might not be a good game, however I am stating that EVERYONE including yourself is hyping it way to much for it to actually make all these changes.
TheBrainSquid
Where are you reading that it might loose HAZE? I've never seen anything stating that it has the possibility of loosing it. And once again you're not listening to me; do I have to scream what I say in your face to get an idea through your thick skull? People are going to want Halo. Its the one of the most popular franchises in video game history. When this game launches that is what the majority of 360 game sales are going to be for a few weeks. Are you staying with me? HAZE and UT3 would be overshadowed by Halo 3 because most people don't want to spend a ton of money on games within a few weeks (Getting all three would cost at least $180). I'm not saying Halo is going to rule, I'm saying that its popular. To be honest, when people say stuff like that it sounds like they're saying blah, blah, blah to me too. But its a matter of popularity, not quality. Its like if you offer a group of children the chance to watch a new Spongebob movie or Pan's Labyrinth... which one do you think they're going to pick? For that group, Spongebob would be more appealing. Same applies to here. If you offered most 360 owners Halo 3 (a franchize that a lot of people bought an xbox for) or UT3, which do you think would be the most popular decision? Besides me and some other sane people, Halo 3 would get picked the most.
I'm not hyping Halo 3, it is a fact that it the franchise has overshadowed games in the past. It is a fact that many people won't buy 3 different games at once. It is a fact that Halo is one of the most popular franchises of all time. And it is a fact that many people who own a 360 would choose Halo 3 over UT3 or HAZE. The popularity of this game is powerful enough to actually make that change because publishers want to get the most profit out of their game. If they go head to head with a franchise with a massive following compared to theirs, they're not going to profit nearly as much as they could if they waited until the storm from the huge seller dies down because people, by the time they release it, will want a new game. Its common sense. Nowhere in any of my posts do I hype it. Hyping the game would be talking about how great it is/looks/is gonna be. My beliefes regarding the Halo series are unflattering. Honestly, don't reply unless you actually read my post this time.
I am not just saying it to you entirely I AM SAYING IT TO EVERYONE else who uses halo as an excuse for everything. You may not use it as an excuse but other fans are. Even if what you are saying is true than why did other games are released WITH HALO 3? You can get lost odyssey, bioshock, and Halo3 THATS $180 dollars I DON'T see those game being delayed? And if it is true than halo is destroying the x 360 because everyone this fall is gonna buy a halo 3 and not any other game? THAT IS WHAT YOUR SAYING don't deny it. Here is an article that x360 MIGHT AND I SAID MIGHT lose haze in the future, but is it because of HALO 3 no it isnt because unreal and hazemight bemultiplatform. However the ps3 is gonna lead those games that why its COMING OUT FIRST NOT BECAUSE OF HALO'S POPLUARITY thats been stated LONG BEFORE halo3 had a launch date. http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/action/haze/news.html?sid=6171219&om_act=convert&om_clk=newsfeatures&tag=newsfeatures;title;1 And thats the link to prove it. GET THAT THROUGH YOUR SKULL.
[QUOTE="fistoflight"][QUOTE="RickyStackz"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
Heil68
NBA Live would sell more than NBA 2k, does that mean Live was always better?
Sales mean nothing.
Like I said before they use halo in everything. If they didn't have halo as an excuse they would have BETTER things to say.
Halo3 will outsell UT3 and Haze combined...if you figure the install base of the PS3, every single owner would have to buy them to meet Halo2's sales of 7.89 million, and they would still be close to 2 million short.Well if people buy halo3 will they have money to buy the other games? Halo 3 can outsell 2 games but the entire fall lineup of the ps3 will outsell the xbox 360 falls line up.
[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="fistoflight"][QUOTE="RickyStackz"][QUOTE="colmusterd28"]I hate failed threads...
Halo 3 owns every FPS ten times over friend... Sales will prove that.
fistoflight
NBA Live would sell more than NBA 2k, does that mean Live was always better?
Sales mean nothing.
Like I said before they use halo in everything. If they didn't have halo as an excuse they would have BETTER things to say.
Halo3 will outsell UT3 and Haze combined...if you figure the install base of the PS3, every single owner would have to buy them to meet Halo2's sales of 7.89 million, and they would still be close to 2 million short.Well if people buy halo3 will they have money to buy the other games? Halo 3 can outsell 2 games but the entire fall lineup of the ps3 will outsell the xbox 360 falls line up.
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