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[QUOTE="Banjo_Kongfooie"]WRPG's Here is what is wrong with JRPGs
1 Go from Point A to Point B Linear Story etc. Just plain Linear Most WRPGs are the exact same
Wrong go play them it speaks for itself people hate Bioware but love Bethesda games vice versa while JRPG's are usually all love or hate em
Wait what? What is this...... I don't even......... you're saying they aren't also mostly linear stories?
2 No variety in the gameplay at all unless picking your attack is variety Ya because there's so much more variety in WRPGs right? Yes actually exploration lock picking side quests etc.
There are side-quests and exploration in JRPGs too :|
3.On Average the story is a full notch bellow WRPG stories Just plain wrong, the only WRPG dev I'd put on the same level as JRPG stories is Bioware, but that's frickin Bioware Um
Elderscrolls has a very rich universe behind it and the story is not over dramatic and Bioware does make great stories as do other WRPG devs what JRPG's have an original and great story?
Chrono Trigger, Final Fantasy Vi/VII/X/IV/etc., Chrono Cross, Xenogears, Kingdom Hearts, Lufia, Earthbound........... do I need to continue or have I proved my point?
4. Music not as good Subjective, and I'd say entirely wrong myself, Mass Effect and Chrono Trigger are two of my favorite RPGs and ME doesn't even compare in music
Oh and I mean Dialogue is much better in WRPG's
Okay that's true, especially in Bioware games, movie quality dialogue. Clearly not what you meant though.
5. Being in a "Party" Ummmm well I'm playing MAss Effect right now and uhhh well.... I'm kinda fighting with a party.... I was also just playing Demon's Souls, a JRPG and I'm kinda alone in it....
In Mass Effect it is squad based dude and the people in your party are interactable oh and Demon Souls is ARPG
Ooooookay so just because it's called a squad instead of a party that's better. Serious flaw in logic. You can talk to your party members in Chrono Trigger too by the way bro.... also Mass Effect is technically an ARPG, but we count it as a WRPG. Therefore, I can count Demon's Souls as a JRPG, since it is in fact a JAPENESE ROLE PLAYING GAME. Doesn't stand for JAPANESE TURN BASED ROLE PLAYING GAME. If that was the criteria of course WRPGs would win, they aren't limited while JRPGs are.
6. Not being able to kill gaurds and cause complete havoc Oh so you're a casual gamer who needs violence and a big sandbox to have fun? Explains your opinions...
And you like a game holding your hand telling you how to play or what your character is like?
I like good games, if they're an open world sandbox and it does it well, I like it, if it's a linear game and is also well done, I like it. Games don't need to be open world.
7. Playing the Goody two shoes and not given the option to be like a darth vaderish anti hero JUST LIKE ALMOST EVERY GAME IN EXISTENCE *facepalm*
Nah you can go rogue in Elderscrolls Fallout and Bioware games
Congratulations, three different series...... I'm sure there are at least 3 JRPGs with moral choice
8. Less Replayability WHAT? WHY? Most JRPGs have a New Game +, most WRPGs are a one time playthrough and you're done
ME1 and 2 have New Game + and Elderscrolls doesnt need one
Okay then, so that makes JRPGs and WRPGs equal there, it doesn't make the WRPG win......
9. Once you do beat the game you cant do much expect grind so you have to new game plus and go through all the dialouge again for the same story Wait... so that's not replayability? What else do you do in WRPGs? In Mass Effect there's one campaign, you play through, then it's the same the next time, only difference is you can choose to say different things, which is Bioware's thing, not all WRPGs have that
Well in Elderscrolls your race effects how your treated and your ****is different as in Fallout you do make decisions
I don't understand why the whole moral choice is needed to be a good game. Are you saying a game requires moral choice to be good? I guess the only good games on Earth are a select few games that let you choose to be good or evil. By the way same exact thing happens in Demon's Souls.... so there's one JRPG with moral choice.
10. Character portraits for end game cutscenes instead of characters talking .......That's not even worth going against. Neither always true or meaningful.
In many games its true
It's true sometimes, but what's that even matter? Starcraft was often pictures of people talking instead of full fledged cutscenes (although there were some cutscenes, just like in JRPGs....), so are you saying that means Starcraft is a bad game?
Banjo_Kongfooie
You're determined to display blatant ignorance in every thread today aren't you? Go go go you're close to your goal!
Rob me of my freedom? Why do games NEED freedom? At least 90% of the greatest games did not give you total freedom of choice and movement. JRPGs are more linear, but what's wrong with that? Linearity isn't a con, it's just a type of gameplay. I like inFAMOUS and I like Uncharted 2. One is free roaming, one is linear. That doesn't make the free roaming one the better game.
I love both JRPGs and WRPGs and play plenty of both. I only chose to vote for JRPGs because I knew it would be losing and wanted to give it help.
By the way if we're judging by this gen alone, WRPGs by far actually. Demon's Souls is my favorite RPG this gen, but that's about it for great JRPGs this gen to me.
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