WRPGs vs JRPGs?

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="mitu123"] She isn't hot, which is the problem, I've seen 2D girls that look hotter.

Yandere

She talks too much, my friend wanted to "get with" all the girls when we first started playing, but her stories bored us to death even when we skipped them.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] I liked her personality though.Arach666

She talks too much, my friend wanted to "get with" all the girls when we first started playing, but her stories bored us to death even when we skipped them.

For me? No clue, but I can listen to music and pretend like the woman is. Anyways she felt like the stereotypical woman that just talks way too much and likes you more if you listen (and spend money on her for gifts).

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And another thing that I hated about Dragon Age:

Nerkcon

And another thing that I hated about Dragon Age:

Yandere

You mean cause she's a female character over 10 years old?

LOL I kid... haha

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And another thing that I hated about Dragon Age:

Nerkcon

Well the closest thing I have to a masochistic fantasy are about yandere girls.

If only I could find a good looking 2D yandere girl in real life, sigh.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

She talks too much, my friend wanted to "get with" all the girls when we first started playing, but her stories bored us to death even when we skipped them.

Yandere

For me? No clue, but I can listen to music and pretend like the woman is. Anyways she felt like the stereotypical woman that just talks way too much and likes you more if you listen (and spend money on her for gifts).

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] I really like her stories,and when was the last time a woman singed for you,eh? :PXBebop

For me? No clue, but I can listen to music and pretend like the woman is. Anyways she felt like the stereotypical woman that just talks way too much and likes you more if you listen (and spend money on her for gifts).

I think the problem was the slur that she had in her voice, it kinda hurt my ears after a while.

[QUOTE="Arach666"][QUOTE="Yandere"]

Both of them are biased and ignorant.

mitu123

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

And another thing that I hated about Dragon Age:

Yandere

Well the closest thing I have to a masochistic fantasy are about yandere girls.

If only I could find a good looking 2D yandere girl in real life, sigh.

Damn,I didn´t even knew what Yandere girls were...ouch!

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] Oh,I just saw the other one. Indeed they are.Greyfeld

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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"] You know that one Futurama episode were they were on the planet with giant woman and they were all dominate, strongly built, and could kill you through sex because of the size difference? I want my woman like that... :oops:Arach666

Well the closest thing I have to a masochistic fantasy are about yandere girls.

If only I could find a good looking 2D yandere girl in real life, sigh.

Damn,I didn´t even knew what Yandere girls were...ouch!

[QUOTE="Yandere"]

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"] You know that one Futurama episode were they were on the planet with giant woman and they were all dominate, strongly built, and could kill you through sex because of the size difference? I want my woman like that... :oops:Arach666

Well the closest thing I have to a masochistic fantasy are about yandere girls.

If only I could find a good looking 2D yandere girl in real life, sigh.

Damn,I didn´t even knew what Yandere girls were...ouch!

It's too bad there are so little yandere girls right now, besides some the rare eroge I never see any new ones. I guess Oniichan Control is the newest manga centered around a yandere girl that I can think of.

And another thing that I hated about Dragon Age:

Yandere

I hate Leliana too. :x She didn't affect my enjoyment of the game though, I just never used her in my party.

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"][QUOTE="mitu123"] Greyfeld's is worse, he's only using Mass Effect, I didn't know Dragon Age, Jade Empire, etc., had guns, oh wait...

mitu123

[QUOTE="Mr_Cumberdale"]Mostly JRPG. The only WRPG I enjoyed was Oblivion. I tried ME, but I just didn't enjoy it. If I want a game that leaves an impact on me, I'd go with JRPG. The best RPG I've played was an JRPG.SgtKevali

This is offtopic, but who is that dude in your profile pic?

[QUOTE="Lethalhazard"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

I've never been interested in WRPGs; the type of linear storytelling and gameplay conventions of JRPGs just appeal to me more. They're very different genres and aren't really meant to be compared with each other, although they are being compared to each other with more and more of a WRPG perspective lately.

hakanakumono

I've never understood why linear storytelling comes under fire when it comes to videogames. There's nothing wrong with having a clear, artistic vision.

Linear story telling doesn't come under fire in video games... generally speaking. It does however come under fire when pertaining to the RPG genre, as it's the complete antithesis to role playing.

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[QUOTE="Greyfeld"] lol only WRPG fanboys would believe my list is worse than the one that inspired it. I purposely made my list as biased and generalizing as possible. The other one was made by somebody who actually believed his drivel. Greyfeld

[QUOTE="Greyfeld"][QUOTE="mitu123"] I'm not a WRPG fanboy, nice try though.

mitu123

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[QUOTE="Greyfeld"] You're an FPS gamer, which is just as bad.Nerkcon

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[QUOTE="Greyfeld"] You're an FPS gamer, which is just as bad.Nerkcon

Dude, most games from every genre are pretty simple.

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[QUOTE="Nerkcon"] You know that one Futurama episode were they were on the planet with giant woman and they were all dominate, strongly built, and could kill you through sex because of the size difference? I want my woman like that... :oops:hakanakumono

Well the closest thing I have to a masochistic fantasy are about yandere girls.

If only I could find a good looking 2D yandere girl in real life, sigh.

Please don't transition to the real world; we don't need any more child molesters.

Hmmm, so this thread turned into a Yandere thread.

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[QUOTE="Yandere"]

Well the closest thing I have to a masochistic fantasy are about yandere girls.

If only I could find a good looking 2D yandere girl in real life, sigh.

SgtKevali

Please don't transition to the real world; we don't need any more child molesters.

Hmmm, so this thread turned into a Yandere thread.

Yandere as in the archetype or me?

If it's about me I have to disagree, it's just him insulting me.

West > East

Always.

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[QUOTE="Greyfeld"] You're an FPS gamer, which is just as bad.Nerkcon

[QUOTE="Nerkcon"][QUOTE="mitu123"] What's wrong with FPSs? Hate em because they're popular?

DarkLink77

Correction. Doom was the ultimate shooter. For its time. And that success did spawn a lot of other titles to follow the genre, many of which has since surpassed it.

Also it wasn't Doom that created the genre, it was Wolfenstein 3D. Doom then came along and improved upon it, gaining it the new spotlight, as did those which followed after Doom.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Nerkcon"] I think its because they're linear and simple minded and the people who got nuts over them and imagined to be the same way, especially if you note what kind of shooters sell. When they were growing there were two very acclaimed shooters that were very different from each other; Doom and System Shock. Doom is a straight forward, mindless, kill all the demons linear shooter with a silly plot. System Shock however was a much slower pace, non linear shootrt with more exploration and vulnerability where you had to plan out your battles because life and ammo were hard to come by and it had a deeper story that was better represented. Guess which one lived on and inspired the rest of the games in the genre?AdobeArtist

Correction. Doom was the ultimate shooter. For its time. And that success did spawn a lot of other titles to follow the genre, many of which has since surpassed it.

What has surpassed DOOM? I can't think of anything. I mean, when someone says shooter to me, I think DOOM. To me, it represents the epitome of the genre, when we're just talking pure shooter.

Obviously Wolfenstein 3D was really important, but DOOM refined it to a razor sharp edge. To me, Wolfenstein 3D is forgetable. DOOM isn't.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Considering DOOM basically created the genre as we know it.... What's the problem with that? DOOM was an excellent game, propelled by fantastic GAMEPLAY. DOOM is the ultimate shooter, so naturally it would inspire the genre.DarkLink77

Correction. Doom was the ultimate shooter. For its time. And that success did spawn a lot of other titles to follow the genre, many of which has since surpassed it.

Also it wasn't Doom that created the genre, it was Wolfenstein 3D. Doom then came along and improved upon it, gaining it the new spotlight, as did those which followed after Doom.

Perfect Dark, Unreal series, Quake, Time Splitters, Deus Ex, Bioshock, and yes, even Halo. People gotta give up this mantle that outdated games are able to compete with newer games when they're unable to integrate the improvements which the newer games have the advantage of. Unfair maybe, but that's the way it is. The past is the past and the genre usually moves on.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Correction. Doom was the ultimate shooter. For its time. And that success did spawn a lot of other titles to follow the genre, many of which has since surpassed it.

AdobeArtist

Perfect Dark, Unreal series, Quake, Time Splitters, Deus Ex, Bioshock, and yes, even Halo. People gotta give up this mantle that outdated games are able to compete with newer games when they're unable to integrate the improvements which the newer games have the advantage of. Unfair maybe, but that's the way it is. The past is the past and the genre usually moves on.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] What has surpassed DOOM? I can't think of anything. I mean, when someone says shooter to me, I think DOOM. To me, it represents the epitome of the genre, when we're just talking pure shooter.DarkLink77

Perfect Dark, Unreal series, Quake, Time Splitters, Deus Ex, Bioshock, and yes, even Halo. People gotta give up this mantle that outdated games are able to compete with newer games when they're unable to integrate the improvements which the newer games have the advantage of. Unfair maybe, but that's the way it is. The past is the past and the genre usually moves on.

Serious Sam and Painkiller. There two games that surpassed Doom.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] What has surpassed DOOM? I can't think of anything. I mean, when someone says shooter to me, I think DOOM. To me, it represents the epitome of the genre, when we're just talking pure shooter.DarkLink77

Perfect Dark, Unreal series, Quake, Time Splitters, Deus Ex, Bioshock, and yes, even Halo. People gotta give up this mantle that outdated games are able to compete with newer games when they're unable to integrate the improvements which the newer games have the advantage of. Unfair maybe, but that's the way it is. The past is the past and the genre usually moves on.

You ummm... seem to contradict yourself there. Severely :P If you admit that those other shooters are better in gameplay, design, story, or any other element you can think of, then by all criteria, they ARE better than Doom.

And this is not a slam against Doom either. Like I said it was amazing for its day. But it's simply part of the natural order of things, that newer games are made to implement advancements that move a given genre forward, so that we as gamers get better and better games to play.

The progenitors and predecessors should always be appreciated for what they contributed and how they set the foundation to pave the way for what is to come. But that doesn't mean they can hold their crown forever. That crown must eventually be passed on, so continues the cycle. As it should be. Its how we get to where we are today :)

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Perfect Dark, Unreal series, Quake, Time Splitters, Deus Ex, Bioshock, and yes, even Halo. People gotta give up this mantle that outdated games are able to compete with newer games when they're unable to integrate the improvements which the newer games have the advantage of. Unfair maybe, but that's the way it is. The past is the past and the genre usually moves on.

AdobeArtist

You ummm... seem to contradict yourself there. Severely :P If you admit that those other shooters are better in gameplay, design, story, or any other element you can think of, then by all criteria, they ARE better than Doom.

And this is not a slam against Doom either. Like I said it was amazing for its day. But it's simply part of the natural order of things, that newer games are made to implement advancements that move a given genre forward, so that we as gamers get better and better games to play.

The progenitors and predecessors should always be appreciated for what they contributed and how they set the foundation to pave the way for what is to come. But that doesn't mean they can hold their crown forever. That crown must eventually be passed on, so continues the cycle. As it should be. Its how we get to where we are today :)

I vastly prefer JRPGs. Most WRPGs just aren't fun for me at all.

This gen definately goes to WRPG's. However last gen, it was easily JRPG's.